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November 15, 2013, 12:14:55 AM |
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God forbid the CEO of a tech start-up wear a suit, use a headset, and smile when seeing the fruits of his labor finally delivered. Only people that really can't read can seriously think that those are the objection that where risen in this thread. Maybe you where trying to catch them? Well, fail.
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November 15, 2013, 12:42:49 AM |
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@HashFast
Can we have a production update? It's been a week since the last one, maybe you can make Thursday night production update night?
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November 15, 2013, 08:27:47 PM |
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Very sincerely, it is not professional from this company.... tha's true : its not the first time it's happend, but it's really professional lie calculated from Hashfast... how gona buy you something now? What a pitty.. shame on you !
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November 15, 2013, 08:34:07 PM |
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Good news everyone!
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November 15, 2013, 09:04:06 PM |
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I will open the "smiley-eduardo-picture" contest in a couple of days in a different thread. First price: 0,1 BTC or a free BabyJet.
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November 15, 2013, 09:20:51 PM |
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Personal attacks = ages olds technique. Doesn't really even fit in.
Don't worry, the silly photoshop contest is a harmless diversion. The overly attached customers need an outlet for their obsessive fixation on (of all bizarre things) an ASIC design company. Having the chips delivered but not yet hashing in machines is like the night before Christmas for them. Too much sugar and excitement equals bratty kids who can't calm down and get to sleep. And that's why Santa drinks...
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November 16, 2013, 02:51:55 AM |
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So far HF has promised a lot of things (products, refund updates, real-time production updates, pictures of the PCB) it did not deliver on.
Customer tickets are left unanswered. Communication with intermediates like Taco appears to have stopped. Instead we have silence, and yes - a picture of a guy holding a box.
Way to go HF. Don't get too comfy in your fancy new office space because if you keep running your company this way it won't be around for very long.
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November 16, 2013, 03:56:10 AM |
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Good news everyone! lol Possible that the chips in this box don't work? Strange how silent things are.
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November 16, 2013, 06:30:33 AM |
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Hi all, Here is a picture of Eduardo deCastro, CEO, receiving the wafers! Cheers, HashFast Team There is something about that package that just looks wrong or out of place....perhaps the fact it looks smashed?
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November 16, 2013, 06:50:46 AM |
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November 16, 2013, 07:02:21 AM |
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November 16, 2013, 07:30:30 AM |
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WAHAHAHA!
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November 16, 2013, 01:15:32 PM Last edit: November 17, 2013, 11:54:43 PM by btc_uzr |
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--------- *edit: after sleeping one night over my statement, I have to edit my post @Hashfast: Please consider the following in a relaxed moment. KnC does great in engineering, but customer handling has still sooo much [some] room for improvement. You are confident you will design and produce comparable hardware I assume [in doubt]. If you keep in mind you can't get close to them easily as they have a margin due to an earlier start, it's clear you have to beat them another way, no? Identify the weak point of KnC and do significantly better. So what's THE weak point of KnC ? Right the customer handling and satisfaction. [They are doing good, so you could go for perfect] With similar hardware but way better customer handling [which is hard but not impossible] and due to this [reaching] a higher customer satisfaction you have real chance for [a good share of the] market leadership in middle term [if you do not fail on hw]. Therefore you should really over-think your way of communication. [And not only for this reason] Shit and mistakes happen as we all know. Planning is just preparation for the future. You are a young company and there are lots of issues for sure. The radio silence pattern plus confusing delays combined with misinformation, lies and missing two way communication is not the way to go. [If you are not honest to your customers and competitors] It will break your neck next year. How about a full disclosure of all problems, delays and milestones achieved ? A completely transparent company with a public project plan - or at least accessible for customers. Maybe the fear of its implications is unreasonable as the advantages of a partial or even full disclosure would be to have not an angry mob in case of trouble, but a crowd in sympathy willing to help and resolve the situation constructively the best for all parties involved. [Or are things that worse behind the scene, that you do better sticking to your current scheme as too much disclose would cause a lawsuit?] [DISCLAIMER: I have no HF order, will stick to KnCMiner from current point of view on things]
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November 16, 2013, 04:18:44 PM |
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--------- @Hashfast: Please consider the following in a relaxed moment. KnC does great in engineering, but customer handling has still sooo much room for improvement. You are confident you will design and produce comparable hardware I assume. If you keep in mind you can't get close to them easily as they have a margin due to an earlier start, it's clear you have to beat them another way, no? Identify the weak point of KnC and do significantly better. So what's THE weak point of KnC ? Right the customer handling and satisfaction. With similar hardware but way better customer handling and due to this a higher customer satisfaction you have real chance for market leadership in middle term. Therefore you should really over-think your way of communication. Shit and mistakes happen as we all know. Planning is just preparation for the future. You are a young company and there are lots of issues for sure. The radio silence pattern plus confusing delays combined with misinformation, lies and missing two way communication is not the way to go. It will break your neck next year. How about a full disclosure of all problems, delays and milestones achieved ? A completely transparent company with a public project plan - or at least accessible for customers. Maybe the fear of its implications is unreasonable as the advantages of a partial or even full disclosure would be to have not an angry mob in case of trouble, but a crowd in sympathy willing to help and resolve the situation constructively the best for all parties involved. You would have to sign and NDA for them to disclose anything!
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November 16, 2013, 07:10:14 PM |
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Hi all, Here is a picture of Eduardo deCastro, CEO, receiving the wafers! Cheers, HashFast Team It seems that not even the mods, who apparently deleted it, got my wafer receipt joke. When I was boy going to Sunday school, they taught me to kneel down to receive wafers. Ok , lets forget the ponies picture , which was kind of funny.. No, I want to see pony
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November 16, 2013, 07:34:16 PM |
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His pride and joy is completely deserved. He stole millions of dollars promising a delivery date he knew he couldn't met and now he is gonna mine with their customer's hardware. I Agree. completly agree !
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November 17, 2013, 12:25:13 PM |
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want to let you know that I had to edit my statement from yesterday after getting some additional input and sleeping one night over it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg3601425#msg3601425the core of the message remains the same: if HF continues this way of customer satisfaction they are gone, KnC is hard to beat as they produce cutting edge stuff in incredible short time frames (chip in hand on Sunday, first product in hand on same Sunday - wow!!) and the only chance for HF is to do PERFECT in regards of customer satisfaction..whatever they do for it, partial/full disclosure might work as it is the way Bitcoin itself works The only reason I want HF not to disappear immediately is that competition in general is healthy and I'm in deep sympathy with HF customers as I was myself close to spend money on them - my gut told no..and I learned to listen to it. I'll stick to KnCMiner as I'm very happy with my investment so far. I wish all HF customers the best, in good intention.
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November 18, 2013, 12:44:07 AM |
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Hi everybody!
Sorry for the lack of communication; I was ill and unable to liaison with the HashFast execs last week.
I'll go in to the office on Monday and see what news/updates can be shared with the forum.
Best,
-HF_CL
PS I've been reading about the new Global Work Queue. It has the potential to do for devices what stratum did for cgminer (IE keep everything topped up and minimize idle time to squeeze out every last drop of performance)!
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November 18, 2013, 02:10:30 AM |
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HashFast:
1) With 2 month delay for 1st batch customers, it would take 4.4TH if HF shipped mid-to-end of December to make 50BTC by end of January, so HashFast should ship all MPP right away to who ever paid for it without waiting till Jan because 1 batch customers are already at a loss. Better yet at least extend 2TH limit to 4-5TH
2) What about promise to ship 400Gh upgrade kit to batch 1 customers by Nov 15-30. When will batch 1 customers get that and how will they get compensated for losses?
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HashFast REFUND ! I am a HashFast's Batch 1 customer and I want full 100% BTC refund.
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November 18, 2013, 12:32:24 PM |
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HashFast:
1) With 2 month delay for 1st batch customers, it would take 4.4TH if HF shipped mid-to-end of December to make 50BTC by end of January, so HashFast should ship all MPP right away to who ever paid for it without waiting till Jan because 1 batch customers are already at a loss. Better yet at least extend 2TH limit to 4-5TH
2) What about promise to ship 400Gh upgrade kit to batch 1 customers by Nov 15-30. When will batch 1 customers get that and how will they get compensated for losses?
10x We have already had 2 diff increases since the week we were promised delivery. There will be at least 2 more increases (more likely 3, possibly more given their WAGs on delivery) before we have miners in hand. Without a better MPP it's going to be another avalon experience again, early VaporJet buyers will take a hell of a haircut.
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