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February 19, 2019, 11:08:54 PM
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UPDATE

Thank you CLOUDBET thank you BITCOINTALK!!! They paid me my whole 330 BTC!!! I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! CASE IS RESOLVED!!


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Wow Shocked Congratulations! After discussing this case numerous times, it is nice to see the site management decided to pay your winnings. Good luck.

Finally! Congratulations my boy. Did they ever give you a reason they weren't paying you?
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UPDATE

Thank you CLOUDBET thank you BITCOINTALK!!! They paid me my whole 330 BTC!!! I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! CASE IS RESOLVED!!


Swofty
Wow Shocked Congratulations! After discussing this case numerous times, it is nice to see the site management decided to pay your winnings. Good luck.

Finally! Congratulations my boy. Did they ever give you a reason they weren't paying you?
I dont think you will ever see the answer.
He is probably not going to be coming to the forum and updating ever again.
Would you if you won this amount and continue betting or gambling in your life?
I think he is off to a tropical place right about now. Cheesy

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February 20, 2019, 12:15:17 AM
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@Ronnie - what are your views on this:


That’s some list Jolly. And these are the ones reported on bitcointalk. I bet you that it is only a small fraction of cloudbet’s indiscretions. A lot of people don’t know about this forum and would just let it slide.

The 330 btc case has brought cloudbet's shadiness to the fore due to the large amount involved, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they have taken players for a combined total way more than that.

@Swofty is really patient , and if I were him, I’d get my lawyers and law enforcement involved immediately.  

I honestly have no idea about how many complaints Cloudbet has but AskGamblers has certainly arbitrated on many cases involving them.

I just copied the post from the original and asked Ronnie what he thought about it.

Since the user that was scammed 330 BTC has now got it, the questions arise why did Cloudbet steal his funds under false pretenses and why did they return the funds?

It is clear to see they returned the funds after HUGE public backlash - simple. The mystery is why do they selectively scam their own users ?

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February 20, 2019, 12:17:49 AM
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    Hi all,

    There has been some discontent in the forums and we would like to take this opportunity to clear a few issues up.

    Firstly, please be reminded that Cloudbet does NOT accept any USA players.

    USA players are blocked from registering accounts, and are blocked from making bets. If any player from USA attempts to make an account, they see a message saying USA players are prohibited and are not able to sign up.

    To reiterate, players from USA are NOT allowed on Cloudbet.

    If we have strong reason to believe that a player has deliberately and willingly circumvented our terms of service by connecting from USA (or another restricted territory), we freeze their account while we conduct an investigation, and ask the player to provide documentation on their residency. Please note that this is only when we strongly suspect that a player has connected from USA, ie, there is specific evidence to suggest this.

    In most cases, the player is cooperative and provides us with accurate documentation about their account and residency. If they are a USA resident, we close their account permanently, and return their account balance. This has been the case with several vocal users in the forum. Sometimes this can take some time, as every case is slightly different, but is always resolved eventually provided the player furnishes us with accurate information.

    If they are connecting from a non-restricted country, we reopen their account and they can resume using their account without limitation.

    Please note that in all cases where the player has cooperated, they have received their entire account balance, and had their accounts closed only if they were connecting from a prohibited jurisdiction (or there was a separate unrelated issue). If any forum members in this situation would come forward and confirm receipt of their account balances in full, this would be appreciated.

    However - on rare occasions, the player is NOT cooperative and provides us with deliberately falsified or fraudulent information. In these cases, our investigations are significantly more complicated and time consuming.


    There is one specific case that has received a lot of attention from the community - Swofty - as the dollar amount is particularly large. Here is our comment on the case:


    • As we have a duty of privacy to all of our players, we are limited in what we can share. The player may have shared some details, but we are not able to share any specifics or personal data.
    • That said, we can share definitively that the player has knowingly and deliberately provided untruthful, falsified and fraudulent information to both Cloudbet and the community.
    • The account holder is NOT the person that he/she states it is, nor are they in the location they state.
    • The player also knowingly and deliberately circumvented our terms of service by connecting from a prohibited jurisdiction.
    • The reason the player has not been paid yet is entirely to do with them circumventing our terms of service and providing falsified and fraudulent information, and nothing to do with our bitcoin liquidity (more on that below).
    • As the customer provided us with definitively falsified information, we suggested they reach out to Curacao Egaming - with whom we hold a licence - for assistance. This is the correct escalation for any player issues.
    • We intend to resolve this issue in a manner completely fair to everyone once we receive truthful and accurate information from the player.
    • It appears as if the player is now cooperating, so we hope to have a resolution to this case soon.


    We have been encouraged by the way the community has responded to rally behind the player and help hold Cloudbet accountable, however in this case the player has not been truthful with the community. We encourage the player to share a more accurate story.


    Separately, concerns have been raised about Cloudbet's ability to service the player's withdrawal immediately. You needn’t be concerned - we hold enough funds to cover all of our player balances several times over, and we would never accept a bet that we could not pay in full immediately. We have been around since 2013 and have always celebrated our largest winners, and paid extremely promptly.

    We would like to address this in the way requested by the community -- a signed message from a wallet that holds sufficient funds to cover any liabilities that may be due to this player.

    We have signed a message from a wallet holding ~1157 BTC. All outputs spent to this wallet are from wallets that belong to us, and had not moved in over a year (we sent them to a single wallet for the purpose of this exercise) so they are not newly acquired coins.  We would be happy to sign another message from any of the source wallets to prove ownership if required.

    Wallet: 16vk7DahVgj4VsfKKdr1pG3QJ9FvzXpdJN
    Message: cloudbet.com // no USA players allowed
    Signature: HxO5QwkA/UNVePahBUzYgWL4Zz5syTC1H6/LeHICsvW0MYG9Q+PgOjNbzVXgXsLbadzFO2wLlz25nsbaXkeTXo4=

    You can verify the above message in your bitcoin client, or by using the web interface here

    I hope that addresses the community's immediate concerns. If anybody has any further questions or follow-up, please feel free to contact us directly via our support channels, or post a reply in this thread and we will do our best to address them in a timely manner.

    Once more, to reiterate, Cloudbet does NOT accept USA players.

    Thanks for your continued support, patience, and diligence.

    The Cloudbet Team

    Wow!

    That was a jaw-dropping read because after all that Cloudbet still returned the 330 BTC to the user.

    So why did they release the 330 BTC to the same user that they made all those claims above about?

    As for the wallet holding 1157 BTC well that answers a lot of questions. They do not seem to be in financial difficulty.[/list]

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    February 20, 2019, 01:41:42 AM
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      ~snip~

      Wow!

      That was a jaw-dropping read because after all that Cloudbet still returned the 330 BTC to the user.

      So why did they release the 330 BTC to the same user that they made all those claims above about?

      As for the wallet holding 1157 BTC well that answers a lot of questions. They do not seem to be in financial difficulty.[/list]

      I read everything and they were able to explain the necessary information the community needs to know.
      Good job Cloudbet for doing the right thing, the scam accusation is solve so I'm expecting that DT members who have not remove their negative rating yet will remove it soon.



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      February 20, 2019, 03:58:35 AM
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      AGD815 he wouldnt care now that he is paid.
      Best just to move on cause this players case is closed.

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      February 20, 2019, 04:19:26 AM
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      UPDATE

      Thank you CLOUDBET thank you BITCOINTALK!!! They paid me my whole 330 BTC!!! I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! CASE IS RESOLVED!!


      Swofty

      WoW They literally did it at last ha! 330btc shiet thats nearly $1million and $300k. You can retire now probably. I don't know any major scam accusation other than this so I can say Cloudbet cleared its name with this move.

      Where are you 4x4? What did I tell you yesterday?

      Won't believe anything until screenshot of 330 BTC posted by that liar Swofty

      I mean - there's no logic - he confessed that he is from USA and that he lied all the time - so in return Shitbet pays him 330 BTC (that's worth over 1 million dollars) for confessing (and commiting a fraud, breaking the rules)

      LOL LOL LOL

      Only a retard would believe in such a fairy tale

      But im used to people with low IQ here. This is your playground, cause you don't know to do anything in your life except to lie and scam.


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      February 20, 2019, 04:46:35 AM
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      UPDATE

      Thank you CLOUDBET thank you BITCOINTALK!!! They paid me my whole 330 BTC!!! I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! CASE IS RESOLVED!!


      Swofty
      Could you mind to inclose a proof that your problem is really resolved? -509 negative trust still there on Cloudbet, maybe everyone still need a proof to attest with what you said.
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      February 20, 2019, 05:04:41 AM
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      So, he is a US user or citizen? US user cannot play on cloudbet but they still paid him?
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      February 20, 2019, 05:39:42 AM
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      UPDATE

      Thank you CLOUDBET thank you BITCOINTALK!!! They paid me my whole 330 BTC!!! I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! CASE IS RESOLVED!!


      Swofty
      Could you mind to inclose a proof that your problem is really resolved? -509 negative trust still there on Cloudbet, maybe everyone still need a proof to attest with what you said.
      That was over 1000 before, some DT maybe not updated yet with the current progress of the case.
      It's coming from him, and I think that is enough to for us to believe that he got paid already, you check check the last page of the scam
      accusation thread here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106313.340, marlboroza posted an address which is a possible proof.
       
      check this out - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3HoX5juYyhAGPWgovjUsNfCw8YFWEa6SHs

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      February 20, 2019, 06:04:18 AM
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      UPDATE

      Thank you CLOUDBET thank you BITCOINTALK!!! They paid me my whole 330 BTC!!! I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! CASE IS RESOLVED!!


      Swofty
      Could you mind to inclose a proof that your problem is really resolved? -509 negative trust still there on Cloudbet, maybe everyone still need a proof to attest with what you said.
      That was over 1000 before, some DT maybe not updated yet with the current progress of the case.
      It's coming from him, and I think that is enough to for us to believe that he got paid already, you check check the last page of the scam
      accusation thread here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106313.340, marlboroza posted an address which is a possible proof.
       
      check this out - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3HoX5juYyhAGPWgovjUsNfCw8YFWEa6SHs

      All of these BTC addresses are new, and its interesting how bitcoin is sent further away, just follow the flow.

      That's not (Swaftys) deposit address from which bitcoin was sent to Shitbet. Where is the original address? All of these btc addresses have history just since 19.02.


      This stinks of scam - but i really don't care.


      Last chain address received 140 BTC and that is what i believe they paid him.

      https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3Nga6LGzTz2FX3nzPWopsPYtRf1gTsWL6k


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      February 20, 2019, 06:20:51 AM
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      Quote
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      This is Albert

      Cloudbet username: swofty

      Deposit address: 1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU

      Date: 12-29-2018
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      This is Albert

      Cloudbet username: swofty

      Deposit address: 1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU

      Date: 12-31-2018
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      This is Albert

      Cloudbet username: swofty

      Deposit address: 1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU

      Date: 12-31-2018
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      This is Albert

      Cloudbet username: swofty

      Deposit address: 1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU

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      Cloudbet username: swofty

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      original deposit btc address didn't receive 330 btc

      as i said, you can lie to low iq members, you can't trick me

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      February 20, 2019, 06:43:30 AM
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      I rest my case. Proven that user didn't receive 330 BTC as claimed here.

      Don't care who is a lesser evil, just have 0 tolerance for lying.

      Case has been brought to public cause two sides were in conflict, now both of them lying and thinking everybody else is stupid.

      Btw "your friends" red reputation on Cloudbet's trust page still stands - 1.7 BTC.


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      February 20, 2019, 11:24:22 AM
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      UPDATE

      Thank you CLOUDBET thank you BITCOINTALK!!! They paid me my whole 330 BTC!!! I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! CASE IS RESOLVED!!


      Swofty
      Awesome! Finally the success. Good job cloudbet and congratulations Swofty.

      I hope you learnt a lesson here: Do not risk this much money for any gambling site. It's beyond craziness and stupidity.

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      February 20, 2019, 02:54:28 PM
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      Yeah, right, and I am the king of England.  Grin

      original deposit address

      https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdU

      no trace of 330 BTC paid

      as always, Shitbet scams people and their paid Bitcointalk dogs spread the shill

      BTW ive sent an email to DMCA about Shitbet stealing images of pro players to promote betting


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      February 20, 2019, 02:59:41 PM
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      I have removed my red trust on Cloudbet as I do think they don't deserve to to be tagged from the Swofty's mistakes as its the reason why it got hold for a long time in the first place. However I made my feedback to neutral to keep it as a reminder to members here in the forum.

      Lol, as he is a Filipino

      Massive concentration of liars, scammers and people lacking intelligence.

      Enjoy.
      Says the guy who got several negative feedbacks already.

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      February 20, 2019, 03:01:49 PM
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      I have removed my red trust on Cloudbet as I do think they don't deserve to to be tagged from the Swofty's mistakes as its the reason why it got hold for a long time in the first place. However I made my feedback to neutral to keep it as a reminder to members here in the forum.

      Lol, as he is a Filipino

      Massive concentration of liars, scammers and people lacking intelligence.

      Enjoy.
      Says the guy who got several negative feedbacks already.

      Well Shitbet got 8x worse rep, and now your licking your own piss.

      I don't mind idiots giving me bad rep, cause I know it's from idiots.

      Idiots = 0 IQ = 0 worth opinion

      Btw here you go, enjoy lol

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      February 20, 2019, 03:07:58 PM
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      I feel bad now for red trusting Cloudbet. I’ve removed it but FFS swofty stop being shady.
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      "Hey DMCA, you know there is some illegal gambling site called Shitbet stealing images of professional athletes? I suggest you contact the rightful owners, free money in sight. Regards."

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      Lol, as he is a Filipino

      Massive concentration of liars, scammers and people lacking intelligence.

      Enjoy.
      Says the guy who got several negative feedbacks already.

      Well Shitbet got 8x worse rep, and now your licking your own piss.
      I tagged them from what they did and I changed it to neutral as the issue has now been resolved. I don't know where you got your shitty theory but Swofty admitted it himself that it was entirely his fault for the delay and that he have received his 330 BTC winning.

      I don't mind idiots giving me bad rep, cause I know it's from idiots.

      Idiots = 0 IQ = 0 worth opinion

      Btw here you go, enjoy lol
      The "idiots" you are calling are trusted members here in the community, they don't earn the reputation of being a DT from being a scammer and spammer like you. If there is an idiot here in the forum it is you as you are just a low life member here trying to scam people in order for you to earn money, which by the way you have failed from doing.

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