NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[delulo]

Hey,

First time posting in this forum

First of all great thanks to all the contributors of this great project! I've been following the threads in this forum and the one at nextcoin.org for a couple of weeks now... impressive comunity

Do we have any news of the Miami conference attendees?

And what about nexern's client, is the ETA still jan 27?

Best,
google

Do we have any audio/video sources of panel discussion / interviews?

[dittie]

Whats this :

Code:

[2014-01-25 08:22:49.299] DEBUG: Failed to analyze hallmark for peer geodreieck.redirectme.net
java.nio.BufferUnderflowException
	at java.nio.Buffer.nextGetIndex(Buffer.java:498)
	at java.nio.HeapByteBuffer.getInt(HeapByteBuffer.java:355)
	at Nxt$Peer.analyzeHallmark(Nxt.java:3100)
	at Nxt$Peer.connect(Nxt.java:3268)
	at Nxt$2.run(Nxt.java:6084)
	at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
	at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.runAndReset(FutureTask.java:304)
	at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:178)
	at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:293)
	at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
	at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744)
[2014-01-25 08:43:47.527] DEBUG: Failed to analyze hallmark for peer geodreieck.redirectme.net
java.nio.BufferUnderflowException
	at java.nio.Buffer.nextGetIndex(Buffer.java:498)
	at java.nio.HeapByteBuffer.getInt(HeapByteBuffer.java:355)
	at Nxt$Peer.analyzeHallmark(Nxt.java:3100)
	at Nxt$Peer.connect(Nxt.java:3268)
	at Nxt$2.run(Nxt.java:6084)
	at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
	at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.runAndReset(FutureTask.java:304)
	at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:178)
	at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:293)
	at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
	at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744)

[PeercoinEnthusiast]

People here are idiots. Of course its worth sending this guy some NXT with a full description of the project. You only need to send 1000 or less for him to see how it works. That many followers and someone who is reported in financial pages is a damn better seed marketing investment than 99% of the FB crap ideas on here.

Anyway, I have almost no NXT but i'll send 100NXT if that all you need to show him the system just a complimentary amount for him to check the system. Asking him to wade through buying NXT from BTC on some exchange you will proabably already lose him in terms of being a high profile supporter/investor of NXT. People are beyond stingy without any understanding of how the real world works. The guy is actually asking to know about what is being done with NXT, why the hell would you go out of your way to be antisocial. He's just a guy who wants to know about NXT.....

Honestly though a full explanation and include the info graphic someone made here is all you need, I wouldn't give him a crappy client we are using at the moment or he might see it as not user friendly for the masses to invest or promote.

I stopped reading after 'people here are idiots'.

[ninjaboon]

Still no sign of NXT trading on vircurex.com 

delay

anybody sent kumala from Vircurex a PM or email?

[bitcoinpaul]

I am looking into my options of making my NXT Solaris client open-source and multi-platform. Since there are trade-offs, I would like to get an idea which operation systems you are most interested in, so I set up a vote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430593.0

Thanks for voting!

The results are what I had expected.

I've made a 1400 US$ investment and upgraded my development environment to Delphi XE5 and the compatible version of the commercial Developer Express components.

The roadmap for NXT Solaris now looks like this:

1.) Move current version of my code to XE5 and release closed source 32-bit and 64-bit versions for Windows (only trivial changes).
2.) Refactor my code to a MVC architecture, so that I can create separate GUIs while using the same version of the business logic code.
3.) Create new GUIs for Windows and OS X using the same business logic, but based on the cross-platform Firemonkey libraries (technically possible targets are Windows, Android, OSX, iOS). The GUIs will not be as sexy and powerful as the closed-source Windows version, though (no Ribbon interface, no filtering, sorting, grouping in data grids, not so many icons etc..), but will still very much resemble what is in the closed-source client.
4.) Release open-source Windows version (32 and 64 bit) based on FireMonkey.
5.) Release open-source OSX version based on FireMonkey.

=> At this point you could decide if you want to use the open-source Windows and OSX version or the closed-source, slightly more sexy and powerfull Windows version.

I will reevaluate if I do versions for Android and iOS at a later point, however I will keep this option in my mind when refactoring the code in step 2. The poll shows that 25% of all voters would use it, but it also depends on which alternatives are available at that point. I would also need to invest another 500 US$ to go mobile and I don't want to do this now.

I will not target Linux, since I technically can't. Someone else might want to jump on this.

I don't know the timeline for the roadmap, so don't ask. ;-) I'll take a week of from my day job next month to get a bit of this done.

A big thank you for your huge efforts to get this thing open source  

The results are what I had expected.

Just a quick reminder: Your poll was posted in bitcointalk.org, a nerd forum for crypto freaks. That should bias the results We work for mass adoption, even the more sophisticated clients should be able to run on the big systems (PC, MAC are the most important, afterwards iOS and Android). Keep that in mind, please.

Big thanks again!

[fmiboy]

Update ClieNXT

version 0.0.2, codename: Phoenix

You want to make it simple and easy? I repeat myself: Get rid of the "deadline" field and put it in the settings or at least replace it with a "select list" with one standard value.

Otherwise: Keep up the good work!

Thank you for comment. It seem there is a need for having settings locally (would save a lot of time from filling every field)

Does anyone want to see peerlist/blocks in GUI?
Or Prefer they stay hidden? (like bitcoin wallet)
Though, I have functions ready to display peers and blocks...

[Damelon]

I've been following Nxt for a little while, although it's hard to keep up with this thread!  This is my first post.

I've seen several questions and efforts at characterizing aspects of the blockchain.  I've been doing some exploratory analysis and have several plots to share.  I've posted what I've done so far here:

http://brosephus.github.io/nxt-explore/

I've learned a lot and hope this might be useful for others.  I'm happy to look into anything that might be of interest to anyone.

This is an excellent resource!
Tweeted it and will highlight it in my summaries tonight.

Who doesn't love graphs?

[bitcoinpaul]

Update ClieNXT

version 0.0.2, codename: Phoenix

You want to make it simple and easy? I repeat myself: Get rid of the "deadline" field and put it in the settings or at least replace it with a "select list" with one standard value.

Otherwise: Keep up the good work!

Thank you for comment. It seem there is a need for having settings locally (would save a lot of time from filling every field)

Does anyone want to see peerlist/blocks in GUI?
Or Prefer they stay hidden? (like bitcoin wallet)
Though, I have functions ready to display peers and blocks...

Peerlist: It should be an option, but maybe hidden on default.

Overall, keep it f**king simple (this is key!), but provide options for a more sophisticated app. It should start very simple, few options, few settings, few text. Few all.

PC folks may disagree, but apple's strategy (simplicity!) is unbeaten. Keep that in mind!

[punkrock]

Code:

<form action="" method="post">
   <p>Amount: <input type="text" name="amount" /></p>
   <p>Fee: <input type="text" name="fee" /></p>
   <br>
   <p>Address:
   <textarea name="addresses" cols=40 rows=4></textarea></p>
   <input type="submit" name="submit" value="Submit" />
</form>
<?php
   if(isset($_POST['submit']) )
   {
      $array = preg_split ('/$\R?^/m', $_POST['addresses']);
      $countaddress = count($array);
      for($i=0;$i<$countaddress;$i++){
      	$array[$i] = preg_replace('/\s+/', '', $array[$i]);
      	$jsonurl = "http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=sendMoney&secretPhrase=SECRET&recipient=".$array[$i]."&amount=".$_POST['amount']."&fee=".$_POST['fee']."&deadline=1440";
		$json = file_get_contents($jsonurl);
		var_dump(json_decode($json));
		}
   }
?>

I tried different times to send money using this script. I'm running XAMPP local on my machine. I tried http @ port 7874 and https @ port 7875. I think it's a problem with my passphrase. I have some quotes and other special characters in it. I also tried to make a backslash (\) before a quote (") because it's a PHP-string and maybe it doesn't like special characters like quotes. Doesn't work. I click the button and the page reloads and the form is empty. Any ideas?

[barbierir]

I've covered length in the section http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/How-To:GenerateStrongPassword#How_do_I_make_a_strong.2C_yet_easy_to_remember_password.3F. How does this compare to Diceware?

Ultimately KeePass is a storage aid (A lot of tools can generate, it specifically gives a way to store securely on your comp, rather than on a piece of paper). Will include it in "Advanced Considerations", or a similar section.

You method compares well with Diceware, I only worry that a newbie could use it incorrectly. The Diceware method ensures a strong passphrase without human bias.

I read that Keepass is not only a storage aid, it also uses a random seed from mouse movements and keyboard hits in order to generate true random passphrases. I'm not an expert but it sounds good and is often reccomended.

[Passion_ltc]

Is there a lock in 5.10 in editing any *.html files in webapps? I always add a new title for the wallet (address of my site) and it wasn't possible to launch the client after this.

If there is, it's pretty smart of them!

Yes, it would be pretty nice.

[Zahlen]

@barbierir:

Thanks for suggesting Diceware, I've linked to it from the wiki page. We can format the page to make such methods more prominent, I'll leave it up to everyone to decide. Just register and edit.

[minusbalancer]

Is there any executable wallet for windows users.?

You could try dotNXT

[McDoxy]

So far everywhere I mention Nxt there is a BIG sentiment against it, because the entire coin supply was distributed for 21 BTC, And I can certainly understand them, because it does have a negative image. What do you guys usually say about this?

Q:  How would you solve problem with scam accusations according to "unfair" distribution Nxt to 73 big stakeholders?
BCNext: “This problem can not be solved.  Even if we had a million stakeholders the rest seven billion people would call this unfair.  A world with the money can not be perfect.”

True, but wouldn't people call it unfair ALOT less if there were more stakeholders? The less stakeholders there are the more people call it unfair and a scam, which decreases the adoption rate.

Why was the launch of Nxt speeded?

Come-from-Beyond: „BCNext explained why he speeded up the launch. He wants the stake holders to make all important decisions“.[1]
BCNext: “I wanted Nxt to be launched by the community, not by a single person.  Success of Nxt is supposed to be achieved by work of a LOT of PEOPLE.”[2]

Wait ... what? Are you saying BCNext wants the original stakeholders to make all the important decisions or people who own Nxt in general? The former would mean that Nxt fate should be decided by a select few, the latter would mean that decisions will be made by the entire community (which makes sense), but why is the logical conclusion from that to shorten the IPO and only take 21 BTC? Wouldn't it make more sense to have way more original stakeholders so more people in the community have the power to help and distribute or give away coins? I just don't understand why the IPO was rushed like this.

Sorry if this has been asked before, and I don't want to attack Nxt, just want to know what you guys have to say about this.

[BitcoinForumator]

In the last few days i'm seeing a lot of newcomers to this thread, more than in the past.

[Damelon]

In the last few days i'm seeing a lot of newcomers to this thread, more than in the past.

PR pays off after a while

[BitcoinForumator]

http://www.nxtcrypto.org/

I don't know everyone who is behind this site - all of the contributors...

but, you have made it into something to be proud of.

[pinarello]

In the last few days i'm seeing a lot of newcomers to this thread, more than in the past.

Yes... and most importantly they are NOT trolls!!!   

or not YET trolls

[Zahlen]

In the last few days i'm seeing a lot of newcomers to this thread, more than in the past.

Yes... and most importantly they are NOT trolls!!!  

or not YET trolls

So negative   Welcome all new shibes nxters!  

EDIT: barbierir, thanks for suggesting Diceware. I've added a link to it from the wiki page. If folks prefer such methods to be more prominent, you can format the page, or comment in the page's Discussion page. Just register and edit.

[Fatih87SK]

Alright men,

Another update. I'm figuring out how I can do this automatically.
In the mean time if you want newsletters of the latest news of NXT send a mail to nxtmovement@gmail.com.

The newsletter will look like this;



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