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June 12, 2015, 03:07:38 PM
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Former Maidummies promised to attack Kiev militia (police force) and are organising into bandit groups again:
http://ria.ru/world/20150612/1069624047.html

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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June 12, 2015, 04:29:35 PM
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Yeah, to earn a living as prostitutes for Jewish bankers in German FKK clubs, which is why the Ukranian men have had enough with the globalist European system. There is going to be a war - and a pogrom - just like the last time.

The grass is always greener on the other side.  Grin

Poverty in Ukraine is extreme, and it is easy to convince the people that the lives will be much better if they become part of the European Union. They further convince them by giving the examples of Poland and Lithuania, which became prosperous after they joined the EU. What they don't know is that the people in the EU are not interested in granting the membership to Ukraine. 
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June 16, 2015, 09:27:25 AM
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In an interview to the Western journalists, Poroshenko avoided the question if Ukraine would pay back $3 billion of sovereign debt to Russia. He instead called it a bribe.

My thoughts:
1. It's a first, when a bribe is expected to be repaid in money and with interest
2. Poroshenko still thinks as a corrupt oligarch
3. If it's a bribe, then throw this money back at Russia for a higher moral ground, but instead you insist on keeping the "dirty" money.

Medvedev made an even better reply on Facebook, saying that if that is a bribe, then the millions that Ukraine tries to get from IMF is a theft. Smiley
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1933724.html

Wittiness aside, latest news: After Moscow demanded official explanation, Ukraine acknowledged its sovereign debt to Russia:
http://ria.ru/economy/20150616/1071930505.html

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
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“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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June 16, 2015, 09:41:10 AM
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Ukraine does not intend to pay back the $3 billion of debt to Russia:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2036210

Finally default?


No its just Russia gonna loose this money. Like Russia always did. Ukraine will live. And continue its movement to the european union and nato. Russia will loose again. Accept it. Rouble will fall again like a year ago.

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June 16, 2015, 10:50:33 AM
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No its just Russia gonna loose this money. Like Russia always did.
It seems that some trolls here have no idea how the Irish Stock Exchange does work. Well, you look like just another idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. If Ukraine won't pay then ISE will pay full sum of transaction. And then Ukraine will have to talk with ISE guys, who have enough experience in debts collection. To be exact, they have more than two centuries of experience in raping their debtors.

Ukraine will live.
Yeah, just like you live on these boards, a laughing stock for surrounding people.

And continue its movement to the european union and nato. Russia will loose again. Accept it. Rouble will fall again like a year ago.
 
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June 16, 2015, 11:24:24 AM
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Ukraine will live. And continue its movement to the european union and nato...
...losing territory. Grin Grin Grin
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June 16, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
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It seems that some trolls here have no idea how the Irish Stock Exchange does work. Well, you look like just another idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. If Ukraine won't pay then ISE will pay full sum of transaction. And then Ukraine will have to talk with ISE guys, who have enough experience in debts collection. To be exact, they have more than two centuries of experience in raping their debtors.

The junta should learn a lesson or two from the Greeks. They can't just say that they will not pay their debts. If they do so, then they will become a pariah in front of the international community. They will face difficulties in conducting trade with foreign nations, and Ukrainian assets abroad will be confiscated by the debtors.
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June 19, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
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US Weapons and Troops – Out Of Ukraine! Rally in Front of the US Embassy in Kiev
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/06/18/us-weapons-and-troops-out-of-ukraine-rally-in-front-of-the-us-embassy-in-kiev/comment-page-1/#comment-6649

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Over one thousand Ukraine citizens gathered in front of the US embassy in Kiev and attempted to pass on to the embassy workers their petition to Barack Obama and the American people, demanding that US stop igniting civil war and interfering in Ukrainian affairs; they also demanded the removal of US troops and weapons from Ukraine. No embassy worker came out to them and guards refused to take their petition. They resorted to gluing the petition to the embassy wall.

Posters in the video below and speeches are in Ukrainian. Posters say: “USA = War,” “USA – out of Ukraine,” “USA invaded Ukraine,” “Donbass.” They chant: “Yankee go home” and “Out of Ukraine!”

Notice how many people are hiding their faces from cameras!

I also want to point out how INCREDIBLY meek and polite all the people are. The ring leader, young woman in pink asking the guard to accept her petition, is especially polite and nice. She keeps saying “Bud’ laska,” which means in Ukrainian ‘please,’ or more precisely, ‘be so kind.’ No one says a word out of the norm, no one does anything even remotely unseemly. After neatly gluing the petition to the embassy wall, they even wipe the wall from any excess glue and polish it to perfection!!! See the woman talking to the guard at 5:15; see them wiping down the wall at 8:10.

I want everyone to note all that, because in the next video of the June 11, 2015 attack on the Russian consulate in Kharkov you will see the opposite picture!

Added: by reader request, here is a summary of the lady in pink speech and exchange with the guard:

In the beginning of the video she says, addressing the tall, blank US embassy wall: “It won’t be as you want. It will be the way it has to be. Ukraine! Yankee go home! Soldiers of USA are raping Ukraine, etc.” People also chant continuously: “Out!” and “Come out to face the people!”

The lady in pink is asking the guard how she could pass on the petition. He says she can’t. She asks why not. No clear answer – just can’t. If not, can we give it to you? He says he won’t take it. She says, you must have some channels of communication with those inside, please ask someone to come out. He says he won’t do it. She must have said ‘be so kind’ about 10-20 times during this super-polite inquiry. Then she says, fine, then we just want to leave it here, by the door. She goes on, “Does any Ukrainian here have Scotch?” Since no one replies, she gets the glue stick out of her purse and they glue the petition to the wall.

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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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June 19, 2015, 02:52:06 PM
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Over one thousand Ukraine citizens gathered in front of the US embassy in Kiev and attempted to pass on to the embassy workers their petition to Barack Obama and the American people, demanding that US stop igniting civil war and interfering in Ukrainian affairs; they also demanded the removal of US troops and weapons from Ukraine. No embassy worker came out to them and guards refused to take their petition. They resorted to gluing the petition to the embassy wall.

The people are just getting tired of the war. Tens of thousands of people have lost their lives, most of them in their 20s and 30s. The economy is damaged beyond any sort of repair. Gas prices have skyrocketed, and imported goods are prohibitively expensive because of the devaluation of the Hryvnia. Those who supported the Maidan are now wondering whether the coup was worth it.
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June 25, 2015, 08:03:39 AM
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Meanwhile in Armenia... Revolution.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/449546?osas

And it's being organised using the same script as in Ukraine in February last year, and as attempted in Russia on Bolotnaja.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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June 25, 2015, 01:44:54 PM
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Part of Bitcoin's promise is a strengthening of groups protesting against dictatorship.. Bitcoin supporters should be aware of such protesters, and support them.

We all support the protestors and pray for peace in their land. Dictatorship is evil and seems to be impossible to defeat. Its not like that though, and no wall can stand if all men decide to tear it down. Its time a few walls go down here, and a few walls are built.

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June 25, 2015, 05:21:33 PM
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Ukraine does not intend to pay back the $3 billion of debt to Russia:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2036210

Finally default?

No its just Russia gonna loose this money. Like Russia always did. Ukraine will live. And continue its movement to the european union and nato. Russia will loose again. Accept it. Rouble will fall again like a year ago.

Goldman Sucks says that Ukraine will default in July on about $19 billion of debt (not only on Russian 3 billion dollars bribe) as a debt standoff with creditors holds on. A $120 million coupon payment comes due on July 24, and Ukraine will most likely issue a moratorium just before that, Sucks' analysts think...

Full article can be found here

If Ukraine won't pay then ISE will pay full sum of transaction. And then Ukraine will have to talk with ISE guys, who have enough experience in debts collection

If only these ISE guys are half as good at collecting debts as the ISIL ones are at chopping heads off, then Ukraine should think twice before refusing to pay

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July 05, 2015, 02:49:23 PM
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Now, if anyone doubted that Ukraine is an occupied state and that Porosenko is merely a gauleiter.

Former Ukrainian minister of foreign Affairs Kozhara published a letter from US Senator Richard Durbin to yatsenjuk, recommending changes to the Ukrainian Cabinet of ministers
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/07/05/usa1/

Ex-prime minister of Ukraine Azarov, stated that the elections of Porosenko were falsified:
http://ria.ru/world/20150705/1115036788.html
Well, we all knew that those (s)elections were a poorly choreographed show before Porosenko's appointment by US State Dep. And that's basically what Azarov is saying.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 05, 2015, 02:56:33 PM
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Goldman Sucks says that Ukraine will default in July on about $19 billion of debt (not only on Russian 3 billion dollars bribe) as a debt standoff with creditors holds on. A $120 million coupon payment comes due on July 24, and Ukraine will most likely issue a moratorium just before that, Sucks' analysts think...

Out of the $19 billion, some $3.4 billion (€3 billion) is owed to Russia and the rest is owed to the troika. NATO will force the troika to keep quiet about all this, and they will agree to the moratorium. But it will be interesting to know about the Russian reaction to this. Russia is in a very difficult financial situation right now, and they really need that money.
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July 14, 2015, 10:15:58 AM
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Revolution Mk.II

Customary fighting in Rada, "because of a split on Right Sector":
http://lifenews.ru/news/157331

Yarosh will lose his immunity. (Well, an outspoken Nazi should not have had any immunity in the first place, but  Canada and USA ruled otherwise):
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/14/n_7374773.shtml

USA patted Yatsenjuk on the head and "is giving him hight praise for the reforms in Ukraine"! ("Reforms" obviously means "use all the money to kill the Russian population of Donbass"):
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2767826

And there were two explosions in Lvov, connected with shootings in Mukachevo:
http://ria.ru/world/20150714/1127625337.html

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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August 01, 2015, 09:30:10 PM
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Double standards still at work...


Greece... No more loans and full threat of default.

Ukraine... Business as usual.

IMF approves new loan tranche to Kiev, plays down debt and security concerns
http://www.rt.com/business/311343-imf-loan-ukraine-debt/
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Kiev is going to receive a new tranche of the $17.5 billion loan from the IMF despite concerns over its growing national debt and shaky truce in eastern Ukraine torn apart by civil war. In return, the IMF expects Kiev to put its economy “on the path to recovery.”

Ukraine is going to get the approved $1.7 billion, a tenth of the $17.5 billion financial assistance program adopted by the IMF executive board in March.

Back in March, Kiev already got $5 billion of initial disbursement under the IMF financial assistance program. The policy of the Washington-based institution, representing 188 countries, implies that the IMF would provide financial assistance only to a country that is “sustainable with high probability” of repaying debt.

And the following quote must be the cream of doublespeak:

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“Ukraine has been an incredibly encouraging situation,” IMF managing director Christine Lagarde said earlier this week. “We have seen political determination to change the face of Ukraine,” she said.

Unless, of course, Christine Lagarde was to finish the sentence thusly: "We have seen political determination to change the face of Ukraine by repeatedly punching it and beating it into the mud."

According to last news from yesterday, Ukraine had coal left for one day's consumption.

Oh, and they are still shelling civilians from artillery. Gorlovka came under heavy fire yesterday.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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August 01, 2015, 09:38:27 PM
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These stupid conflicts severely damaged the sovereignty of the people....We learn nothing, we like 500 years ago but with smartphones to record the genocide.

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August 03, 2015, 10:02:24 AM
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These stupid conflicts severely damaged the sovereignty of the people....We learn nothing, we like 500 years ago but with smartphones to record the genocide.

Sad, but true. Sometimes I feel like giving up on humanity...

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
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“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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Last edit: August 04, 2015, 08:43:21 AM by Nemo1024
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84% of Ukrainians Want Putin as Leader of Their Country
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/07/31/84-of-ukrainians-want-putin-as-leader-of-their-country/

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Here are some latest telling statistics from Ukraine:

The latest poll shows that 84% of Ukrainians want Russian President Vladimir Putin as the leader of their country. This effectively means that the vast majority of Ukrainians understand into what kind of abyss the Kiev junta is leading them.

Despite the overwhelming anti-Russian and anti-Putin propaganda spread by Kiev and Ukraine MSM, the population isn’t blind. Ukrainian people, most of whom are tired of war and want peace, start recalling the Chechen conflict and its swift and brilliant resolution by Putin. At the time Putin came in, he had on his hands the devastating Chechen war and all of Russia with destroyed economy and depressed population. Back in the 90s, I remember some Russians telling me dejectedly that the Chechen war would never end – and those people weren’t simpletons; to many well-known business people and analysts the Chechen war at the time seemed like a perma-conflict with no way out.

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Another bit of news: those anti-junta politicians and journalists of various political views who escaped from Ukraine after the 2014 coup are starting to organize an alternative government in exile. The organization, whose first conference took place in Moscow, is called the ‘Fund for the Salvation of Ukraine.’ It is headed by the former PM of Ukraine under Yanukovich, Nikolay Azarov. Unlike Yanukovich, Azarov is remembered positively in Ukraine and beyond for the quiet, but productive work he had done for the country. These are some long overdue, awkward first steps, and the people behind this alternative government are the old Ukraine politicians, who generally still have a decent reputation, such as Azarov, Vladimir Oleynik (MP from western Ukraine, presently in exile in Russia) and Igor Markov (MP from Odessa, now also in exile). Because of that, they may be capable of uniting various forces around them.

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“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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August 06, 2015, 07:00:58 PM
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LOL! Putin won an internet poll that was open to anyone? Just goes to show who has the biggest paid army of trolls.

For the record, I wish Putin was in charge of America. There. Now he has a percent on people who want him here too.

God you Putin lovers are idiots  Roll Eyes
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