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[thunderdrum]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy 

RC3 was reverted once not twice -- it is now working with 99% pool compliance.  RC4 is also a "spork" -- i.e. even if enforcement causes problems it can be turned off seamlessly.  I really don't think there is much to worry about in terms of RC4 "not working".   

  truth be told~

seriously what's happening to DRK ? the price keeps falling day by day and seems like it's getting harder to go back up

We aren't doing marketing yet. When RC4 hits and we have a more or less functional product, we'll be able to start doing marketing. At that point, you should see a price increase.

+1

[GhostPlayer]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy  

 RC2 failing was a blessing in disguise. Great success only comes after great failures = great innovations in the protocol !!

 RC3 did not fail. It was a responsible revert by the dev. Mini-forks did happen, and network consensus would have been achieved. There were clear bad intentioned actors trying to subvert the network. It was reverted because too many miners would have been hurt. The bad blocks were orphaned in a longer time than block generation, so it would end up 100% fine... except too many miners would see their mining profits DEDUCED. So Evan reverted, because miners are the most important group to secure the network. That also brought spectacular improvements. (for example,  yet another innovative and brilliant spork solution instead of fork)

 RC4 has not happened yet, but with 99% of pools upgraded, already at 88% MN payout, by tomorrow 97-99%, only multipools, insta-profit-dumpers and whales are pushing the price down, at extremely low volume... every day... slowly... for almost a month now... and I couldnt care less (because I have no BTC to buy more if not I'd love it!!)

 Big money is obviously waiting for the fork, to jump in. Rocket launch to the moon when code is vetted and released.

 Dump!! please do!!

[GhostPlayer]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy 

RC3 was reverted once not twice -- it is now working with 99% pool compliance.  RC4 is also a "spork" -- i.e. even if enforcement causes problems it can be turned off seamlessly.  I really don't think there is much to worry about in terms of RC4 "not working".   

beat me to it. +1

[maese123]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy 

 RC2 failing was a blessing in disguise. Great success only comes after great failures = great innovations in the protocol !!

 RC3 did not fail. It was a responsible revert by the dev. Mini-forks did happen, and network consensus would have been achieved. There were clear bad intentioned actors trying to subvert the network. It was reverted because too many miners would have been hurt. The bad blocks were orphaned in a longer time than block generation, so it would end up 100% fine... except too many miners would see their mining profits DEDUCED. So Evan reverted, because miners are the most important group to secure the network. That also brought spectacular improvements. (for example,  yet another innovative and brilliant spork solution instead of fork)

 RC4 has not happened yet, but with 99% of pools upgraded, already at 88% MN payout, by tomorrow 97-99%, only multipools, insta-profit-dumpers and whales are pushing the price down, at extremely low volume... every day... slowly... for almost a month now... and I couldnt care less (because I have no BTC to buy more if not I'd love it!!)

 Big money is obviously waiting for the fork, to jump in. Rocket launch to the moon when code is vetted and released.

 Dump!! please do!!

the market has not seen the benefits of rc3, thanks for explanation, wait for RC4, we should be optimistic

[tibolt]

99% of pools are updated.


Following is my opinion on rollout of RC4.

With RC4 pools don't need to update their stratum servers, just update darkcoind.
(Some pools need to change 1/10 to 1/5)

x11ltc pool is paying half?

http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html?srch&nmstr=x11ltc1btccom04

[thelonecrouton]

99% of pools are updated.


Following is my opinion on rollout of RC4.

With RC4 pools don't need to update their stratum servers, just update darkcoind.
(Some pools need to change 1/10 to 1/5)

x11ltc pool is paying half?

http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html?srch&nmstr=x11ltc1btccom04

Yes. They obviously don't want to pay the proper amount, but at the same time they know that they soon wont have a choice so are making sure they know how to update when they have to, to avoid all their miners jumping down their throats when enforcement occurs and they aren't ready.

[nofall]

https://i.imgur.com/J1sW4QH.png

99% of pools are updated.


Following is my opinion on rollout of RC4.

With RC4 pools don't need to update their stratum servers, just update darkcoind.
(Some pools need to change 1/10 to 1/5)

x11ltc pool is paying half?

http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html?srch&nmstr=x11ltc1btccom04

These pools need to be updated. I don't have the ROI, I have expected on my masternode.

Could you enforce this issue. Darkcoin is the Best crypto invented, the others are not so creative.

[GhostPlayer]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy  

 RC2 failing was a blessing in disguise. Great success only comes after great failures = great innovations in the protocol !!

 RC3 did not fail. It was a responsible revert by the dev. Mini-forks did happen, and network consensus would have been achieved. There were clear bad intentioned actors trying to subvert the network. It was reverted because too many miners would have been hurt. The bad blocks were orphaned in a longer time than block generation, so it would end up 100% fine... except too many miners would see their mining profits DEDUCED. So Evan reverted, because miners are the most important group to secure the network. That also brought spectacular improvements. (for example,  yet another innovative and brilliant spork solution instead of fork)

 RC4 has not happened yet, but with 99% of pools upgraded, already at 88% MN payout, by tomorrow 97-99%, only multipools, insta-profit-dumpers and whales are pushing the price down, at extremely low volume... every day... slowly... for almost a month now... and I couldnt care less (because I have no BTC to buy more if not I'd love it!!)

 Big money is obviously waiting for the fork, to jump in. Rocket launch to the moon when code is vetted and released.

 Dump!! please do!!

the market has not seen the benefits of rc3, thanks for explanation, wait for RC4, we should be optimistic

Not the market for natural reason, but definitely in the protocol, which will much better in the long run!

[nofall]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy 

 RC2 failing was a blessing in disguise. Great success only comes after great failures = great innovations in the protocol !!

 RC3 did not fail. It was a responsible revert by the dev. Mini-forks did happen, and network consensus would have been achieved. There were clear bad intentioned actors trying to subvert the network. It was reverted because too many miners would have been hurt. The bad blocks were orphaned in a longer time than block generation, so it would end up 100% fine... except too many miners would see their mining profits DEDUCED. So Evan reverted, because miners are the most important group to secure the network. That also brought spectacular improvements. (for example,  yet another innovative and brilliant spork solution instead of fork)

 RC4 has not happened yet, but with 99% of pools upgraded, already at 88% MN payout, by tomorrow 97-99%, only multipools, insta-profit-dumpers and whales are pushing the price down, at extremely low volume... every day... slowly... for almost a month now... and I couldnt care less (because I have no BTC to buy more if not I'd love it!!)

 Big money is obviously waiting for the fork, to jump in. Rocket launch to the moon when code is vetted and released.

 Dump!! please do!!

the market has not seen the benefits of rc3, thanks for explanation, wait for RC4, we should be optimistic

Not to the market for natural reason, but definitely in the protocol, which will much better in the long run!

Darkcoin is the Best.

[GhostPlayer]

99% of pools are updated.


Following is my opinion on rollout of RC4.

With RC4 pools don't need to update their stratum servers, just update darkcoind.
(Some pools need to change 1/10 to 1/5)

x11ltc pool is paying half?

http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html?srch&nmstr=x11ltc1btccom04

These pools need to be updated. I don't have the ROI, I have expected on my masternode.

Could you enforce this issue. Darkcoin is the Best crypto invented, the others are not so creative.

99% of pool are updated for stratum, which is what counts.
When the fork is set, they'll have to update the wallets and 20% enforcement is on.
Right now only about 25% of all payments are 10% payouts.

These are UNBELIEVABLY spectacular stats.

[nofall]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy 

 RC2 failing was a blessing in disguise. Great success only comes after great failures = great innovations in the protocol !!

 RC3 did not fail. It was a responsible revert by the dev. Mini-forks did happen, and network consensus would have been achieved. There were clear bad intentioned actors trying to subvert the network. It was reverted because too many miners would have been hurt. The bad blocks were orphaned in a longer time than block generation, so it would end up 100% fine... except too many miners would see their mining profits DEDUCED. So Evan reverted, because miners are the most important group to secure the network. That also brought spectacular improvements. (for example,  yet another innovative and brilliant spork solution instead of fork)

 RC4 has not happened yet, but with 99% of pools upgraded, already at 88% MN payout, by tomorrow 97-99%, only multipools, insta-profit-dumpers and whales are pushing the price down, at extremely low volume... every day... slowly... for almost a month now... and I couldnt care less (because I have no BTC to buy more if not I'd love it!!)

 Big money is obviously waiting for the fork, to jump in. Rocket launch to the moon when code is vetted and released.

 Dump!! please do!!

the market has not seen the benefits of rc3, thanks for explanation, wait for RC4, we should be optimistic

Not to the market for natural reason, but definitely in the protocol, which will much better in the long run!

Miners are useless, and we are the market. Their advices have no sense. We have to discard these bad configured pools.

[GhostPlayer]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy  

 RC2 failing was a blessing in disguise. Great success only comes after great failures = great innovations in the protocol !!

 RC3 did not fail. It was a responsible revert by the dev. Mini-forks did happen, and network consensus would have been achieved. There were clear bad intentioned actors trying to subvert the network. It was reverted because too many miners would have been hurt. The bad blocks were orphaned in a longer time than block generation, so it would end up 100% fine... except too many miners would see their mining profits DEDUCED. So Evan reverted, because miners are the most important group to secure the network. That also brought spectacular improvements. (for example,  yet another innovative and brilliant spork solution instead of fork)

 RC4 has not happened yet, but with 99% of pools upgraded, already at 88% MN payout, by tomorrow 97-99%, only multipools, insta-profit-dumpers and whales are pushing the price down, at extremely low volume... every day... slowly... for almost a month now... and I couldnt care less (because I have no BTC to buy more if not I'd love it!!)

 Big money is obviously waiting for the fork, to jump in. Rocket launch to the moon when code is vetted and released.

 Dump!! please do!!

the market has not seen the benefits of rc3, thanks for explanation, wait for RC4, we should be optimistic

Not to the market for natural reason, but definitely in the protocol, which will much better in the long run!

Miners are useless, and we are the market. Their advices have no sense. We have to discard these bad configured pools.

1% is not a problem!! With the fork, it happens instantly though.

[chaeplin]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy  

RC3 was reverted once not twice -- it is now working with 99% pool compliance.  RC4 is also a "spork" -- i.e. even if enforcement causes problems it can be turned off seamlessly.  I really don't think there is much to worry about in terms of RC4 "not working".  

I don't think RC4 will use enforcement(spork).
RC4 would be timed-fork(enforcement on), and spork would be used for failsafe.

[nofall]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy  

 RC2 failing was a blessing in disguise. Great success only comes after great failures = great innovations in the protocol !!

 RC3 did not fail. It was a responsible revert by the dev. Mini-forks did happen, and network consensus would have been achieved. There were clear bad intentioned actors trying to subvert the network. It was reverted because too many miners would have been hurt. The bad blocks were orphaned in a longer time than block generation, so it would end up 100% fine... except too many miners would see their mining profits DEDUCED. So Evan reverted, because miners are the most important group to secure the network. That also brought spectacular improvements. (for example,  yet another innovative and brilliant spork solution instead of fork)

 RC4 has not happened yet, but with 99% of pools upgraded, already at 88% MN payout, by tomorrow 97-99%, only multipools, insta-profit-dumpers and whales are pushing the price down, at extremely low volume... every day... slowly... for almost a month now... and I couldnt care less (because I have no BTC to buy more if not I'd love it!!)

 Big money is obviously waiting for the fork, to jump in. Rocket launch to the moon when code is vetted and released.

 Dump!! please do!!

the market has not seen the benefits of rc3, thanks for explanation, wait for RC4, we should be optimistic

Not to the market for natural reason, but definitely in the protocol, which will much better in the long run!

Miners are useless, and we are the market. Their advices have no sense. We have to discard these bad configured pools.

1% is not a problem!! With the fork, it happens instantly though.

Yes 1% is not a problem. Anyway pools may not be aware that their profitability value is not correct now... but... that's OK.

[chaeplin]

99% of pools are updated.


Following is my opinion on rollout of RC4.

With RC4 pools don't need to update their stratum servers, just update darkcoind.
(Some pools need to change 1/10 to 1/5)

[JGCMiner]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy  

RC3 was reverted once not twice -- it is now working with 99% pool compliance.  RC4 is also a "spork" -- i.e. even if enforcement causes problems it can be turned off seamlessly.  I really don't think there is much to worry about in terms of RC4 "not working".  

I don't think RC4 will use enforcement(spork).
RC4 would be timed-fork(enforcement on), and spork would be used for failsafe.

Is that a guess or has that been confirmed somewhere? Could have sworn I saw eltito say the opposite.

[chaeplin]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy  

RC3 was reverted once not twice -- it is now working with 99% pool compliance.  RC4 is also a "spork" -- i.e. even if enforcement causes problems it can be turned off seamlessly.  I really don't think there is much to worry about in terms of RC4 "not working".  

I don't think RC4 will use enforcement(spork).
RC4 would be timed-fork(enforcement on), and spork would be used for failsafe.

Is that a guess or has that been confirmed somewhere? Could have sworn I saw eltito say the opposite.

Just a guess.  LOL

[salmion]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy  

RC3 was reverted once not twice -- it is now working with 99% pool compliance.  RC4 is also a "spork" -- i.e. even if enforcement causes problems it can be turned off seamlessly.  I really don't think there is much to worry about in terms of RC4 "not working".  

I don't think RC4 will use enforcement(spork).
RC4 would be timed-fork(enforcement on), and spork would be used for failsafe.

Is that a guess or has that been confirmed somewhere? Could have sworn I saw eltito say the opposite.

Just a guess.   LOL

Are you giving away secrets el presidente? Excellent we now know who the weak link is to get prerelease info from

[chaeplin]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy  

RC3 was reverted once not twice -- it is now working with 99% pool compliance.  RC4 is also a "spork" -- i.e. even if enforcement causes problems it can be turned off seamlessly.  I really don't think there is much to worry about in terms of RC4 "not working".  

I don't think RC4 will use enforcement(spork).
RC4 would be timed-fork(enforcement on), and spork would be used for failsafe.

Is that a guess or has that been confirmed somewhere? Could have sworn I saw eltito say the opposite.

Just a guess.   LOL

Are you giving away secrets el presidente? Excellent we now know who the weak link is to get prerelease info from

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/status-update-7-1-2014.1675/

Chris Rimoldi(eltito) did...

Addendum: To be clear, the question on everyone's mind in regards to the Masternode enforcement mechanism built into RC3 is, "Why don't we just flip the switch?" The answer is that RC3's enforcement mechanism has caused issues on the network twice now. Knowing that, enabling it a third time in its current state because we're annoyed by some non-paying pools would be quite irresponsible. Instead, Evan has chosen to build a simpler, safer, new enforcement mechanism, to be implemented with RC4. --Chris Rimoldi (eltito)

[JGCMiner]

Only if rc4 works, i hope that. but rc2 fail ad rc3 fail two times. RC4 please make me happy  

RC3 was reverted once not twice -- it is now working with 99% pool compliance.  RC4 is also a "spork" -- i.e. even if enforcement causes problems it can be turned off seamlessly.  I really don't think there is much to worry about in terms of RC4 "not working".  

I don't think RC4 will use enforcement(spork).
RC4 would be timed-fork(enforcement on), and spork would be used for failsafe.

Is that a guess or has that been confirmed somewhere? Could have sworn I saw eltito say the opposite.

Just a guess.  LOL

Well El presidente's guesses are better than most. I just wonder if there is enough time to test and give enough lead time for a hardfork by the end of July. A spork could be just 72 hrs or so of lead time, but a hardfork is at least a week. And as far as I know testnet validation is yet to get underway...