[ANN] [HVC] Heavycoin - Ultra-secure, Decentralized Block Reward Voting, Fast

[gpools]

Alright, for all the folks hoping for an HVC Multipool, it can't happen, and here's why:

1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.

2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.

3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.

Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.

If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1

I Agree

whilst I agree the logic to this is sound, I feel a multipool would kickstart demand, the increased buy support would increase the value in the coin and in turn increase peoples interest. The detraction from the hashrate would be made up for once people become more interested and start mining HVC. The difficulty would drop accordingly as well leaving people more likely to begin mining.

but now miner like vote 1024 but fast reward low price easy died coin.

[Wenzel745]

Alright, for all the folks hoping for an HVC Multipool, it can't happen, and here's why:

1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.

2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.

3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.

Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.

If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1

I Agree

whilst I agree the logic to this is sound, I feel a multipool would kickstart demand, the increased buy support would increase the value in the coin and in turn increase peoples interest. The detraction from the hashrate would be made up for once people become more interested and start mining HVC. The difficulty would drop accordingly as well leaving people more likely to begin mining.

The problem with the hashrate drop would be that it opens the coin to a 51% attack. Also, creating a multipool is no small task... It took the BC devs weeks to get it fully up and running. For the sustain phase of HVC, maybe. But for the forseeable future a multipool is just not feasible.

[TheGer]

What he said...  but in English lol.

Alright, for all the folks hoping for an HVC Multipool, it can't happen, and here's why:

1. Blackcoin is PoS not PoW. This means they don't need miners to be constantly mining the coin in order to sustain the blockchain, all that is handled by open wallets. Whether or not that is good is another conversation for another time, but that's how it is.

2. The multipool would take away hashrate from the HVC blockchain, making HVC more vulnerable and less secure.

3. If a multipool were to solve for 2, it would have to allocate massive hash power to the HVC blockchain, negating the upsides.

Here's the danger with HVC if I understand correctly: If people don't tone down their votes now, the coin will be fully minted REALLY REALLY FAST. This is bad because it centralizes the coin to only early adopters, weakening the coin long term (fewer investors because the community is too small). We need to stretch the mint phase as long as possible for the SURVIVAL of the coin. At this rate, it will already be minted by the time the ASICS hit, and GPU miners won't come because ROI will be too low. We need to, if possible, stretch the mint for AT LEAST a year. The coin needs time to grow.

If people don't lower their votes, the network will be dead in 6 months or less, the moment we hit the sustain phase. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF HVC VOTE 1

I Agree

whilst I agree the logic to this is sound, I feel a multipool would kickstart demand, the increased buy support would increase the value in the coin and in turn increase peoples interest. The detraction from the hashrate would be made up for once people become more interested and start mining HVC. The difficulty would drop accordingly as well leaving people more likely to begin mining.

but now miner like vote 1024 but fast reward low price easy died coin.

[wizzardTim]

Does anyone remember the IPO price of HVC (1 HVC = how many BTC)?

[jakiman]

Does anyone remember the IPO price of HVC (1 HVC = how many BTC)?

I believe it was 0.00005.

[wizzardTim]

Does anyone remember the IPO price of HVC (1 HVC = how many BTC)?

I believe it was 0.00005.

thank you 

[con]

Does anyone remember the IPO price of HVC (1 HVC = how many BTC)?

I believe it was 0.00005.

thank you 

173 btc over 5 milion hvc: 0.00003460

[ibinsad]

VOTE 1 !!!

 

[TheRealSteve]

Pool hash rates and miners

pool	rate (Mh/s)*	delta***	% of network	miners**	rate/miner	fee (%)	payout
http://hvc.1gh.com/	59,122.18	-4,795.74	49.11			1	RBPPS
http://heavycoin.zhpool.com/	46,547.40	259.90	38.67	633	73.53	1	PPLNS
http://heavycoin.miningpoolhub.com/	7,954.95	-616.55	6.61	53.8	147.86	1	PROP
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/	827.87	112.87	0.69	36.1	22.93	1	PPLNS
https://heavycoinpool.com/	0.26	0.00	0	3	0.09		(shut  down)
http://heavy.stablehash.com/	0.00	0.00	0	0	0	1	PROP
https://hvc.crunchharder.net/	0.00	0.00	0	0	0	2	PPLNS
total	114,452.66	-5,039.52
network rate	120,380	10,380

* due to rate variability displayed through pool statistics pages, rates are based on average of 10 samples over the past hour
** miner count for 1gh unavailable
*** Delta since last update

Pool luck

last 24h luck 1gh nonce hvcpool zhpool poolhub hash avg 64,034.04 715.49 456.49 43,758.50 12,264.56 blocks 412 5 0 310 42 hash % 52.82 0.59 0.38 36.10 10.12 blocks % 53.58 0.65 0.00 40.31 5.46 luck % 101.40 110.20 0.00 111.70 54.00

last 7d luck 1gh nonce hvcpool zhpool poolhub hash avg 64,034.04 715.49 456.49 43,758.50 12,264.56 blocks 2,764 27 10 1,918 349 hash % 52.82 0.59 0.38 36.10 10.12 blocks % 54.54 0.53 0.20 37.85 6.89 luck % 103.25 90.27 52.40 104.85 68.07

Mining (indicative, not authoritative!)

payoff per Mhash/s / day ideal solo 1gh nonce hvcpool zhpool poolhub HVC 3.55294 3.55 3.11 1.80 3.61 2.34 mBTC 0.11440 0.11 0.10 0.06 0.12 0.08 USD 0.05180 0.05 0.05 0.03 0.05 0.03

pool take / day 1gh nonce hvcpool zhpool poolhub HVC 2,298.07 22.45 8.31 1,594.68 290.17 BTC 0.07 0.00 0.00 0.05 0.01 USD 33.51 0.33 0.12 23.25 4.23

Based on last 7 days performance and... block reward: HVC582 | mBTC/HVC: 0.0322 | USD/BTC: $452.8
Block progression

overall 1gh hvcpool noncepool zhpool poolhub other total Blocks 2764 10 27 1918 349 0 5068 Percent 54.5 0.2 0.5 37.8 6.9 0 99.9 hash_rate 64034 456 715 43758 12265 0 121228 Percent 52.8 0.4 0.6 36.1 10.1 0 100

1gh Top stats

___Top_100___ ___Top_10___ Total: 42,023.47 Mhash/s Total: 12,838.04 Mhash/s % of pool: 71.1% % of pool: 21.7% % of network: 36.7% % of network: 11.2% Mean rate: 420.23 Mhash/s Mean rate: 1,283.80 Mhash/s Median rate: 271.58 Mhash/s Median rate: 1,228.40 Mhash/s Mode(10) rate: 150 Mhash/s Mode(100) rate: 1200 Mhash/s

[jakiman]

Does anyone remember the IPO price of HVC (1 HVC = how many BTC)?

I believe it was 0.00005.

thank you 

173 btc over 5 milion hvc: 0.00003460

Oh. Thank you for the exact price!

[SimkoMiner]

Any idea when HVC price stops dropping, maybe when BTC recovers?  Gpools, are you still holding like a boss? :-) Cause once you start dumping we'll be all doomed.

[gpools]

lol i'm holding all my coin.  Now HVC undervalued.

[tinus42]

Does anyone remember the IPO price of HVC (1 HVC = how many BTC)?

I believe it was 0.00005.

thank you 

173 btc over 5 milion hvc: 0.00003460

Oh. Thank you for the exact price!

If you want the really exact price it's 0.00003477 (= 5,000,000 / 173.84775614)

[Severaz]

Does anyone remember the IPO price of HVC (1 HVC = how many BTC)?

I believe it was 0.00005.

thank you 

173 btc over 5 milion hvc: 0.00003460

Oh. Thank you for the exact price!

If you want the really exact price it's 0.00003477 (= 5,000,000 / 173.84775614)

and its selling for ~0.00003104 i wouldnt say its undervalued at this point

[Kreativekrypto]

Looking to help promote HVC? Send this to everyone you know: https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/10329-heavycoin-secure-e-currency?locale=en


Want to help give HVC real world value? Email Moolah, request Heavycoin be added to Prelude and Digipay: https://moolah.io/contact

[kuperis]

somebody really dumping theirs HVC
i think some ppl think after 15/04 btc is be dead and they selling off their coins and exchanging to fiat.
but if that bans not confirms, then BTC will bounce back to ~600 zone and in shorterm we have to see HVC 0.00006, longterm
after phase 1, there can be 0.0003 BTC.

anyway someone believe, some is not
i try risk and bought additionaly 26667 HVC today.

and u all the times biggest winnings are when everyone selling u buying and holding...
there diffrent think, but in early 2009 stocks market
when was all that stockmarket panic i bought LasVegas Sands ( LVS ) stocks for 1.82$, todays price 75 (high 88) of course
i sold out my 62$
and WNR 8.25 (late 2009) sold at 35$
now just keeping TSLA bought for 29$, todays price is 207
FTK 2.11$ today is 27$
NFLX 77$
and some holdings is in minus
like solar stocks FSLR, SPWRA,
and AMD

[Kreativekrypto]

This could all be a big ploy to undermine btc, who really knows. All we can do is support decentralized currency and if you love heavycoin see my post above. Have a great day people i'll keep fighting the good fight

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/pboc-orders-all-chinese-banks-third-party-payment-processors-shut-accounts-15-chinese-bitcoin-exchanges-april-15th/2014/03/27

[gpools]

I don't care , China Ban bitcoin but money never sleep.

[RavenX]

I bought some yesterday too... 

[cryptomines]

Even if we as a community voted the block reward in half, say 250, it would put HVC on the map in a big way. HVC is an innovator, not a clone, it doesn't need a gimmick like all the shitcoins out there do. Scrypt-asic's are going to change the whole altcoin landscape, and not for the betterment of gpu mining. We can control how long we mine HVC for and how much we end up with in the end. I don't know how many miners read this forum, but I'm sure they all look at the pool pages on a regular basis. If we could get the pools to put up a message  stressing the importance of the vote I think that would help. I know zhpool gives you vote information on their dashboard, but 1GH doesn't have any information at all. I did notice they changed -v to -vote which is very helpful.

This coin has more potential than any other!  Vote 1 for Heavy!!