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[Beparanf]

Been a long time player on bc
lost a lot and won a lot.

This is what raised the alarm bells for me, is the game really provably fair or I got scammed of 89,000$?

I have documented and captured screenshots for all I have said, someone from BC please help here, if the game is really provably fair please share documentation and prove the results of my bets!

It’s very hard to conclude that their game is scam with just 6 lose streak in a game and use the error on Probably Fair verification as excuse to your lose. I believe you are using other games on BC because you mention above that you win and lose a lot in the past for a long time while other games on BC definitely doesn’t have probably fair feature just like slots which you are not complaining before.

I understand your sentiment about can’t verify the probably fair of the game but it can’t be use as evidence to conclude a game as scam especially that you lose using small sample. You just lose huge amount on this 6 bets that’s you are questioning the integrity of the game. But I agree that BC should provide the transparent result of your game.

[btcluv1]

Been a long time player on bc
lost a lot and won a lot.

This is what raised the alarm bells for me, is the game really provably fair or I got scammed of 89,000$?

I have documented and captured screenshots for all I have said, someone from BC please help here, if the game is really provably fair please share documentation and prove the results of my bets!

It’s very hard to conclude that their game is scam with just 6 lose streak in a game and use the error on Probably Fair verification as excuse to your lose. I believe you are using other games on BC because you mention above that you win and lose a lot in the past for a long time while other games on BC definitely doesn’t have probably fair feature just like slots which you are not complaining before.

I understand your sentiment about can’t verify the probably fair of the game but it can’t be use as evidence to conclude a game as scam especially that you lose using small sample. You just lose huge amount on this 6 bets that’s you are questioning the integrity of the game. But I agree that BC should provide the transparent result of your game.

I am just raising questions,
provably fair system is not working for the game
Vip host says its complicated and doesn't offer any help or solution
Provably fair article where they mention workings and verification process of all games has wrong info about twist workings of crash game are mentioned
Even the description of twist game show wrong description of crash

Normally a 6 streak loosing with a new seed wont raise suspicion but combine that with the above 4 points

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Been a long time player on bc
lost a lot and won a lot.

This is what raised the alarm bells for me, is the game really provably fair or I got scammed of 89,000$?

I have documented and captured screenshots for all I have said, someone from BC please help here, if the game is really provably fair please share documentation and prove the results of my bets!

It’s very hard to conclude that their game is scam with just 6 lose streak in a game and use the error on Probably Fair verification as excuse to your lose. I believe you are using other games on BC because you mention above that you win and lose a lot in the past for a long time while other games on BC definitely doesn’t have probably fair feature just like slots which you are not complaining before.

I understand your sentiment about can’t verify the probably fair of the game but it can’t be use as evidence to conclude a game as scam especially that you lose using small sample. You just lose huge amount on this 6 bets that’s you are questioning the integrity of the game. But I agree that BC should provide the transparent result of your game.

There are actually several gamblers who fail to understand that anything is possible as long as its gambling we are talking about, and even old players aren't excluded, some Old players still seem not to fully understand the risks involved in gambling.

Any amount of money, can be lost even in a single roll, it could be a hundred thousand dollars, it could also be a million dollars, as far as they system allows a player to make or place such huge bets, there is a chance that it can be lost, the system can not because the money you bet is high, make you win when you are supposed to lose, and this is why we are being advised to always gamble with as much as we can afford to lose.

And concerning being unable to prove or check that the game is indeed provably fair, that is a simply system error and it happens from time to time, it's nothing new, and I personally do not see that as a red flag that should make a gambler or gamblers suspicious of the activities or genuineness of the casino.

[btcluv1]

Been a long time player on bc
lost a lot and won a lot.

This is what raised the alarm bells for me, is the game really provably fair or I got scammed of 89,000$?

I have documented and captured screenshots for all I have said, someone from BC please help here, if the game is really provably fair please share documentation and prove the results of my bets!

It’s very hard to conclude that their game is scam with just 6 lose streak in a game and use the error on Probably Fair verification as excuse to your lose. I believe you are using other games on BC because you mention above that you win and lose a lot in the past for a long time while other games on BC definitely doesn’t have probably fair feature just like slots which you are not complaining before.

I understand your sentiment about can’t verify the probably fair of the game but it can’t be use as evidence to conclude a game as scam especially that you lose using small sample. You just lose huge amount on this 6 bets that’s you are questioning the integrity of the game. But I agree that BC should provide the transparent result of your game.

There are actually several gamblers who fail to understand that anything is possible as long as its gambling we are talking about, and even old players aren't excluded, some Old players still seem not to fully understand the risks involved in gambling.

Any amount of money, can be lost even in a single roll, it could be a hundred thousand dollars, it could also be a million dollars, as far as they system allows a player to make or place such huge bets, there is a chance that it can be lost, the system can not because the money you bet is high, make you win when you are supposed to lose, and this is why we are being advised to always gamble with as much as we can afford to lose.

And concerning being unable to prove or check that the game is indeed provably fair, that is a simply system error and it happens from time to time, it's nothing new, and I personally do not see that as a red flag that should make a gambler or gamblers suspicious of the activities or genuineness of the casino.

I completely agree with you, the only thing I am asking the casino is to help me verify that my bets were indeed provably fair, a system error is ok, but the description on site where the explain how each game is provably fair is also wrong for the game and vip host and support haven't answered in a positive manner, if the vip host had just said that it is a system error and our backend team will fix it and get back to you, then it wasn't a problem.

But he said "Nop sorry it's compplicated i heard" that means he can't help, and support just says clear cache and try mirrors and close the chat.

[Beparanf]

I am just raising questions,
provably fair system is not working for the game
Vip host says its complicated and doesn't offer any help or solution
Provably fair article where they mention workings and verification process of all games has wrong info about twist workings of crash game are mentioned
Even the description of twist game show wrong description of crash

Normally a 6 streak loosing with a new seed wont raise suspicion but combine that with the above 4 points

AFAIK need seed won’t affect the chance rate of the outcome because the result is pure random. You can lose more than that even if you keep changing seed if you are unlucky.

Your post is a form of question that main intention is draw a scam conclusion to the casino. Can you provide screenshot of VIP host message saying that it’s complicated? Do you mean that they can’t provide transparent result of your game?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I completely agree with you, the only thing I am asking the casino is to help me verify that my bets were indeed provably fair, a system error is ok, but the description on site where the explain how each game is provably fair is also wrong for the game and vip host and support haven't answered in a positive manner, if the vip host had just said that it is a system error and our backend team will fix it and get back to you, then it wasn't a problem.

But he said "Nop sorry it's compplicated i heard" that means he can't help, and support just says clear cache and try mirrors and close the chat.

Well, now I get the picture more clearer, and let me start now by saying that that response from the vip host is very unprofessional to say the least, and like you right said, the comment from customer care is also not helpful for me assuming I was in you shoes.

What I did advice you do now is, get in touch with the Op of this thread, he or she is an official member of bc.game, get in touch with him or her by sending a pm if you haven't, and wait for him or her to respond, last online I see here  was on 21st of December, last year, thats actually a long time but let's hope he or she comes online soon, I believe you will get a proper answer from him or her.

But if actually you are feeling that you've been scammed, and can't wait too long to get a good response from the bc.game team, then go create a scam accusation against bc.game, this you can do in the scam and accusation board, make sure to read the rules to creating a scam accusation, And make sure your accusation is detailed enough.

Good luck and happy new year.

[btcluv1]

I am just raising questions,
provably fair system is not working for the game
Vip host says its complicated and doesn't offer any help or solution
Provably fair article where they mention workings and verification process of all games has wrong info about twist workings of crash game are mentioned
Even the description of twist game show wrong description of crash

Normally a 6 streak loosing with a new seed wont raise suspicion but combine that with the above 4 points

AFAIK need seed won’t affect the chance rate of the outcome because the result is pure random. You can lose more than that even if you keep changing seed if you are unlucky.

Your post is a form of question that main intention is draw a scam conclusion to the casino. Can you provide screenshot of VIP host message saying that it’s complicated? Do you mean that they can’t provide transparent result of your game?

Ya, I don't know why I wrote about new seed, I know it won't affect chances, My post is not to draw a scam conclusion this early, I just want them to help me verify the bets as provably fair and if they are unable to do so then I will move on to creating new post in scam accusation.

Here are the screenshots of my chat with vip host-
https://prnt.sc/gS-fFLRwNEHf
https://prnt.sc/DIDXC4jA31G9
https://prnt.sc/YCo6ZHWIbjCs
https://prnt.sc/Hydn-GZnOBl7

In the last screenshot you can see him saying its complicated now I cant say what he meant by that if he meant they cant provide transparent result or what, only they know that

[babygun]

Ya, I don't know why I wrote about new seed, I know it won't affect chances, My post is not to draw a scam conclusion this early, I just want them to help me verify the bets as provably fair and if they are unable to do so then I will move on to creating new post in scam accusation.

Here are the screenshots of my chat with vip host-
https://prnt.sc/gS-fFLRwNEHf
https://prnt.sc/DIDXC4jA31G9
https://prnt.sc/YCo6ZHWIbjCs
https://prnt.sc/Hydn-GZnOBl7

In the last screenshot you can see him saying its complicated now I cant say what he meant by that if he meant they cant provide transparent result or what, only they know that

Honestly, not the best reply of the vip host to say things are complicated but I doubt that the bets would not be provably fair. The representative of bc.game is pretty active on this forum again so he should be able to help you out or give a more detailed answer about the question you are having. Sorry for your loss as it is a huge amount.

[btcluv1]

I completely agree with you, the only thing I am asking the casino is to help me verify that my bets were indeed provably fair, a system error is ok, but the description on site where the explain how each game is provably fair is also wrong for the game and vip host and support haven't answered in a positive manner, if the vip host had just said that it is a system error and our backend team will fix it and get back to you, then it wasn't a problem.

But he said "Nop sorry it's compplicated i heard" that means he can't help, and support just says clear cache and try mirrors and close the chat.

Well, now I get the picture more clearer, and let me start now by saying that that response from the vip host is very unprofessional to say the least, and like you right said, the comment from customer care is also not helpful for me assuming I was in you shoes.

What I did advice you do now is, get in touch with the Op of this thread, he or she is an official member of bc.game, get in touch with him or her by sending a pm if you haven't, and wait for him or her to respond, last online I see here  was on 21st of December, last year, thats actually a long time but let's hope he or she comes online soon, I believe you will get a proper answer from him or her.

But if actually you are feeling that you've been scammed, and can't wait too long to get a good response from the bc.game team, then go create a scam accusation against bc.game, this you can do in the scam and accusation board, make sure to read the rules to creating a scam accusation, And make sure your accusation is detailed enough.

Good luck and happy new year.

Happy New Year,

I will create a scam accusation in a few days if no response from BC team, have already created a complaint on casinoguru for now as I had seen that they respond to complaints there faster

[btcluv1]

Ya, I don't know why I wrote about new seed, I know it won't affect chances, My post is not to draw a scam conclusion this early, I just want them to help me verify the bets as provably fair and if they are unable to do so then I will move on to creating new post in scam accusation.

Here are the screenshots of my chat with vip host-
https://prnt.sc/gS-fFLRwNEHf
https://prnt.sc/DIDXC4jA31G9
https://prnt.sc/YCo6ZHWIbjCs
https://prnt.sc/Hydn-GZnOBl7

In the last screenshot you can see him saying its complicated now I cant say what he meant by that if he meant they cant provide transparent result or what, only they know that

Honestly, not the best reply of the vip host to say things are complicated but I doubt that the bets would not be provably fair. The representative of bc.game is pretty active on this forum again so he should be able to help you out or give a more detailed answer about the question you are having. Sorry for your loss as it is a huge amount.

Ya maybe the bets are fair but maybe they are not whatever the chance that maybe its a real possibility thats why the bets should be verified as per industry standards and I just want BC to help me verify my bets, lets see when their representative here comes online because he hasn't been here for a week or so

[Cantsay]

Happy New Year,

I will create a scam accusation in a few days if no response from BC team, have already created a complaint on casinoguru for now as I had seen that they respond to complaints there faster

I have read all the comments related to your issue, and I didn’t see anyone recommending that you should send a pm to the representative here for a faster response.

So I’ll advise that you send a pm to this account^[1], it’s bcgame support here in the forum. It was created to help settle customer’s compliant I’m sure that if you alert the user behind the account you’ll be able to get the result you’re after, so they won’t be any need need for a scam accusation.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3592321

[holydarkness]

I will create a scam accusation in a few days if no response from BC team, have already created a complaint on casinoguru for now as I had seen that they respond to complaints there faster

I retraced all of your step to verify and see it for myself so I can understand your situation. It's probably a small error, like you initially guessed. Though your host's answer is indeed not satisfactory, let me try to get in touch with their representative here and see if he can take a look into what happened and address this matter.

[Orpichukwu]

The first thing I did, after I noticed the change of password request, was for me to check areas where my email was logged in, which I confirmed to be only on my old Android device and that of my new iOS and PC, which I have to log out of my old Android device, which I don't make use of again.
 
To the person who asked if I have funds on my account: That's personal, but the funds that I have there are very little, and it's not worth it for someone to hack and move them out in any way. I disregarded the email since it was not requested by me, and I have not been able to receive any of them again. My activities still remain the same.
 
And I also think this issue, if it's not from any scan-casino that I might have signed in on, could be on my old browser, where I used to save up my password before backing up to Chrome, and my oldest email, where I have changed all the passwords that were connected to that, as I presume it might have been licked by scammers. There could also be some possibility that the issue is there.

[holydarkness]

The first thing I did, after I noticed the change of password request, was for me to check areas where my email was logged in, which I confirmed to be only on my old Android device and that of my new iOS and PC, which I have to log out of my old Android device, which I don't make use of again.
 
To the person who asked if I have funds on my account: That's personal, but the funds that I have there are very little, and it's not worth it for someone to hack and move them out in any way. I disregarded the email since it was not requested by me, and I have not been able to receive any of them again. My activities still remain the same.
 
And I also think this issue, if it's not from any scan-casino that I might have signed in on, could be on my old browser, where I used to save up my password before backing up to Chrome, and my oldest email, where I have changed all the passwords that were connected to that, as I presume it might have been licked by scammers. There could also be some possibility that the issue is there.

I think it's a known attack by the security team, they send a notification blast about this password change request [you should be able to see it in your notification bar]. Meanwhile, I am advising you to set 2FA, I think it's better be safe than sorry

[Jaycoinz]

The first thing I did, after I noticed the change of password request, was for me to check areas where my email was logged in, which I confirmed to be only on my old Android device and that of my new iOS and PC, which I have to log out of my old Android device, which I don't make use of again.
 
To the person who asked if I have funds on my account: That's personal, but the funds that I have there are very little, and it's not worth it for someone to hack and move them out in any way. I disregarded the email since it was not requested by me, and I have not been able to receive any of them again. My activities still remain the same.
 
And I also think this issue, if it's not from any scan-casino that I might have signed in on, could be on my old browser, where I used to save up my password before backing up to Chrome, and my oldest email, where I have changed all the passwords that were connected to that, as I presume it might have been licked by scammers. There could also be some possibility that the issue is there.

I think it's a known attack by the security team, they send a notification blast about this password change request [you should be able to see it in your notification bar]. Meanwhile, I am advising you to set 2FA, I think it's better be safe than sorry

Yeah that's true because the 2FA serves as an extra layer of security to your account and that's will make you feel more safe concerning anything like password hack or things like your account being compromised due to lack of security and I definitely choose it over than the normal average security level.

Please I have some quick question about the bc.game bonus though, as I don't really know what is required if me to actually received that 300% bonus and I have already tried depositing but had to wait or hold back due to something a friend told me about the bonus requirement that got me worried.

[Catenaccio]

Yeah that's true because the 2FA serves as an extra layer of security to your account and that's will make you feel more safe concerning anything like password hack or things like your account being compromised due to lack of security and I definitely choose it over than the normal average security level.

2FA is an extra, second layer of security for your account but you have to secure your account with many factors.

Strong password for your account.
Strong password for your email because your account password can be reset via email. If your email has a weak password, is compromised, you will lose your account easily.
2FA for your email too. It is helpful to avoid your email hack.

The last layer is 2FA for your account on Duelbits.

[btcluv1]

Happy New Year,

I will create a scam accusation in a few days if no response from BC team, have already created a complaint on casinoguru for now as I had seen that they respond to complaints there faster

I have read all the comments related to your issue, and I didn’t see anyone recommending that you should send a pm to the representative here for a faster response.

So I’ll advise that you send a pm to this account^[1], it’s bcgame support here in the forum. It was created to help settle customer’s compliant I’m sure that if you alert the user behind the account you’ll be able to get the result you’re after, so they won’t be any need need for a scam accusation.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3592321

Have messaged them, Thanks for guidance

[btcluv1]

I will create a scam accusation in a few days if no response from BC team, have already created a complaint on casinoguru for now as I had seen that they respond to complaints there faster

I retraced all of your step to verify and see it for myself so I can understand your situation. It's probably a small error, like you initially guessed. Though your host's answer is indeed not satisfactory, let me try to get in touch with their representative here and see if he can take a look into what happened and address this matter.

Thanks, if you get any update, please let me know.

My host also recently messaged me - "I forwarded all your messages to devs. And they would keep me updated bro, ill ask again if they can hand me an email" so lets see if they do anything

[BC.Game Support]

Been a long time player on bc
lost a lot and won a lot.

Today i played twist game first time with big amounts i had tried it earlier a few bets.

I lost a little over 89000$ in 6 bets on it, all were 0 multipliers, I have had lost 15 bets in a row at 2x too in dice and other games on bc and other sites but this twist game 6 looses just with a new seed seemed a little suspicious to me.

I wanted to verify the results as the game is "Provably Fair"
I thought it wont be an issue and site is legit but still had some doubt and wanted to verify.

Now strangely after searching a lot, I am unable to find any documentation for how to verify the bets.

On the bet slip when Verify is clicked it takes to a page which throws a 404 error as seen - https://prnt.sc/f4y7mx5IdagC

Ok no issue might be some error.

Then i clicked the provably fair tab on bc and clicked on twist game, there the description it shows is no where related to twist game, you guys can read it here https://bc.game/help/provably-fair by clicking on twist game or see the screenshot https://prnt.sc/5yKZZdUMUpwA .

And on the twist game if validate is clicked it takes to verification page of classic dice - https://prnt.sc/WMi9XC23376s

Ok no issue might be some error,

I have a vip host on bc since over an year, I sent him the screenshots and asked him to get me an email id so I can raise it to proper person, because normal chat and email are mostly unhelpful, chat told me to clear cache check mirrors, change browser I did all that
They then said try again later lol.

Now the VIP Host first told me - "Asking around! Getting back to you once i got the correct info"

After 4 hours I texted him for an update
And 2 hours after that he got back to me - "Nop sorry it's compplicated i heard"

This is what raised the alarm bells for me, is the game really provably fair or I got scammed of 89,000$?

I have documented and captured screenshots for all I have said, someone from BC please help here, if the game is really provably fair please share documentation and prove the results of my bets!

Apologies for any confusion earlier. We have fixed the issue with the validation link specifically for the Twist game. It should now be functioning properly. Please clear your browser cache and attempt to use the Twist game's validation link again to verify your bets. Additionally, we are currently working on fixing the error in the Fairness Verification description. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

[btcluv1]

Been a long time player on bc
lost a lot and won a lot.

Today i played twist game first time with big amounts i had tried it earlier a few bets.

I lost a little over 89000$ in 6 bets on it, all were 0 multipliers, I have had lost 15 bets in a row at 2x too in dice and other games on bc and other sites but this twist game 6 looses just with a new seed seemed a little suspicious to me.

I wanted to verify the results as the game is "Provably Fair"
I thought it wont be an issue and site is legit but still had some doubt and wanted to verify.

Now strangely after searching a lot, I am unable to find any documentation for how to verify the bets.

On the bet slip when Verify is clicked it takes to a page which throws a 404 error as seen - https://prnt.sc/f4y7mx5IdagC

Ok no issue might be some error.

Then i clicked the provably fair tab on bc and clicked on twist game, there the description it shows is no where related to twist game, you guys can read it here https://bc.game/help/provably-fair by clicking on twist game or see the screenshot https://prnt.sc/5yKZZdUMUpwA .

And on the twist game if validate is clicked it takes to verification page of classic dice - https://prnt.sc/WMi9XC23376s

Ok no issue might be some error,

I have a vip host on bc since over an year, I sent him the screenshots and asked him to get me an email id so I can raise it to proper person, because normal chat and email are mostly unhelpful, chat told me to clear cache check mirrors, change browser I did all that
They then said try again later lol.

Now the VIP Host first told me - "Asking around! Getting back to you once i got the correct info"

After 4 hours I texted him for an update
And 2 hours after that he got back to me - "Nop sorry it's compplicated i heard"

This is what raised the alarm bells for me, is the game really provably fair or I got scammed of 89,000$?

I have documented and captured screenshots for all I have said, someone from BC please help here, if the game is really provably fair please share documentation and prove the results of my bets!

Apologies for any confusion earlier. We have fixed the issue with the validation link specifically for the Twist game. It should now be functioning properly. Please clear your browser cache and attempt to use the Twist game's validation link again to verify your bets. Additionally, we are currently working on fixing the error in the Fairness Verification description. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Thanks for your response,

But unfortunately the same 404 error is coming please check again!
I have tried using 2 mirror sites, cleared cache in firefox and used with that and tried with chrome incognito but same 404 error is coming.
https://prnt.sc/dwW61KAO-LR2
Can anyone here try make a 1 cent bet on twist and check if verification is working for them? Because I don't think they have fixed it yet.