⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[cryptofrka]

What I find quite disturbing is Chelsea odds, I mean they won the last version, they improved their team with good players and still have weird odds!

It is kinda normal, odds on Chelsea winning last season were probably way higher than of them winning it this season. The bookies always look at team strength when defining odds, both in first 11 quality and overall depth.

PSG and City look like clear favorites, and Bayern and Real probably still look better than Chelsea. They did win it last season and did strengthen, but PSG strengthened a lot more and City will probably too (I expect Kane to end up there).

I think Chelsea is not in the list of biggest favorites but exactly in a bucket below, where the bookies placed them.

[joker_josue]

PSG and City look like clear favorites, and Bayern and Real probably still look better than Chelsea. They did win it last season and did strengthen, but PSG strengthened a lot more and City will probably too (I expect Kane to end up there).

Do you think that with Messi at PSG, will it be this year that they will be able to reach the final?
Or will they suffer the same problem as other big clubs, having many stars in the same squad?

[Daniel91]

PSG and City look like clear favorites, and Bayern and Real probably still look better than Chelsea. They did win it last season and did strengthen, but PSG strengthened a lot more and City will probably too (I expect Kane to end up there).

Do you think that with Messi at PSG, will it be this year that they will be able to reach the final?
Or will they suffer the same problem as other big clubs, having many stars in the same squad?

PSG will have very good players this season but that doesn't mean they will have a very good team, a set of very good individuals does not make a very good team.
The PSG coach will have a very difficult task to build a very good and balanced team, and it will take time for him to do so.
For me besides PSG and Manchester City, the favorites of this competition still remain Real, Barcelona, Liverpool, Chelsea, Bayern and Juventus and very few details will decide in the end.
Money can't buy a result and it's been beautifully seen in recent years with PSG and Manchester City.

[kro55]

PSG and City look like clear favorites, and Bayern and Real probably still look better than Chelsea. They did win it last season and did strengthen, but PSG strengthened a lot more and City will probably too (I expect Kane to end up there).

Do you think that with Messi at PSG, will it be this year that they will be able to reach the final?
Or will they suffer the same problem as other big clubs, having many stars in the same squad?

PSG will have very good players this season but that doesn't mean they will have a very good team, a set of very good individuals does not make a very good team.
The PSG coach will have a very difficult task to build a very good and balanced team, and it will take time for him to do so.
For me besides PSG and Manchester City, the favorites of this competition still remain Real, Barcelona, Liverpool, Chelsea, Bayern and Juventus and very few details will decide in the end.
Money can't buy a result and it's been beautifully seen in recent years with PSG and Manchester City.

PSG has a lot of good and talented players. The best defender in the world like Ramos. Neymar, Mbappe and Icardi is very talented. They will be stronger if Messi comes to PSG. Now it is the coach's responsibility to stabilize the team. He will stabilize the team and improve the bonding between the players within the team. If there is no mutual understanding between the players, they will not get good results as a team.

[joker_josue]

PSG has a lot of good and talented players. The best defender in the world like Ramos. Neymar, Mbappe and Icardi is very talented. They will be stronger if Messi comes to PSG. Now it is the coach's responsibility to stabilize the team. He will stabilize the team and improve the bonding between the players within the team. If there is no mutual understanding between the players, they will not get good results as a team.

I agree! It's not enough to have good players, they need to be able to understand each other well on the field. Now it remains to be seen whether Mauricio Pochettino will manage to create the ideal tactic for PSG and keep the group together.

[masulum]

Do you think that with Messi at PSG, will it be this year that they will be able to reach the final?
Or will they suffer the same problem as other big clubs, having many stars in the same squad?

PSG will remain a solid club next season despite having a lot of star players if there is Messi in the squad. I think other players will use Messi as their influencer when they are on the pitch. He is a legend, just like Ibrahimovic was at Milan. or Ronaldo at Juventus. Even though there are many stars, he is an idol of many players, so I think this will affect the effort to play with these star players.

[snipie]

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Where do you see these odds, could you provide a link? To be honest, they look unrealistic, because if we place a bet on each of these 4 outcomes for $ 100, then for any outcome we will be in profit by at least $ 20, and a maximum by ~ 900.
Maybe you have confused something?
By the way, I am glad that the chances of moving to the English championship are greater than in PSG, I would not want Messi to be there.

Hey KTChampions, here is the links :
Stake : https://stake.com/sports/outright/soccer/international-clubs/uefa-champions-league/41983969-uefa-champions-league-21-22
Sportsbet : https://sportsbet.io/fr/sports/event/soccer/international-clubs/uefa-champions-league/uefa-champions-league-60bd70d71cecee12adc5eab7
Odds are changing and PSG one is getting lower with Messi getting closer to sign there

[ingiltere]

Do you think that with Messi at PSG, will it be this year that they will be able to reach the final?
Or will they suffer the same problem as other big clubs, having many stars in the same squad?

Paris Saint-Germain played in final in previous season but they couldn't beat Bayern München. At that time Bayern was unstoppable. Maybe they can get Champions League trophy this season but it's too early to talk about. We don't know which teams they will have to face after group stage, an unlucky draw may blow their chances early. Even without Messi they were one of the favorites but after Messi comes they will surely raise their chances. You know there is also another statistics that teams can't win trophy when it's first time in Champions League final, so PSG passed this stage in 2020.

[Altryist]

PSG has a lot of good and talented players. The best defender in the world like Ramos. Neymar, Mbappe and Icardi is very talented. They will be stronger if Messi comes to PSG. Now it is the coach's responsibility to stabilize the team. He will stabilize the team and improve the bonding between the players within the team. If there is no mutual understanding between the players, they will not get good results as a team.

Players of this level need a reputable coach who can keep a good discipline in the team. If in the team players like Ramos or Neymar will bend their line, then there can be no question of any result, because first of all it will be necessary to improve the situation within the team. I don't know how influential Pochatino will be in such a stellar team as PSG, only time will tell if he is able to manage such a team.

[clint25n]

PSG has a lot of good and talented players. The best defender in the world like Ramos. Neymar, Mbappe and Icardi is very talented. They will be stronger if Messi comes to PSG. Now it is the coach's responsibility to stabilize the team. He will stabilize the team and improve the bonding between the players within the team. If there is no mutual understanding between the players, they will not get good results as a team.

Players of this level need a reputable coach who can keep a good discipline in the team. If in the team players like Ramos or Neymar will bend their line, then there can be no question of any result, because first of all it will be necessary to improve the situation within the team. I don't know how influential Pochatino will be in such a stellar team as PSG, only time will tell if he is able to manage such a team.

With this message, we can say that PSG have been very busy in the transfer market this season with the arrival of Sergio Ramos and Hakimi to the club based in the French capital, further increasing their competition in the European Champions League competition this season, with the current squad that is not guarantee that PSG will go smoothly to get the big ear trophy this season, especially considering that for example they are still inexperienced in playing in European competitions, it is quite interesting for us to see about PSG's progress in the Champions League this season, it is quite interesting for us. Watch about PSG's progress in the Champions League this season

[BitcoinHunt3r]

PSG has a lot of good and talented players. The best defender in the world like Ramos. Neymar, Mbappe and Icardi is very talented. They will be stronger if Messi comes to PSG. Now it is the coach's responsibility to stabilize the team. He will stabilize the team and improve the bonding between the players within the team. If there is no mutual understanding between the players, they will not get good results as a team.

Players of this level need a reputable coach who can keep a good discipline in the team. If in the team players like Ramos or Neymar will bend their line, then there can be no question of any result, because first of all it will be necessary to improve the situation within the team. I don't know how influential Pochatino will be in such a stellar team as PSG, only time will tell if he is able to manage such a team.

With this message, we can say that PSG have been very busy in the transfer market this season with the arrival of Sergio Ramos and Hakimi to the club based in the French capital, further increasing their competition in the European Champions League competition this season, with the current squad that is not guarantee that PSG will go smoothly to get the big ear trophy this season, especially considering that for example they are still inexperienced in playing in European competitions, it is quite interesting for us to see about PSG's progress in the Champions League this season, it is quite interesting for us. Watch about PSG's progress in the Champions League this season

PSG don't have much experience in the Champions League but the players who were there were  the main players in the UCL from a different club
If it's true that Messi is part of PSG I estimate PSG's chance of winning is 70% . I'm not a PSG supporter, it's just that I predict based on the line up of players

[3meek]

Tomorrow there will be a lot of return matches of the Champions League... The most interesting in my opinion are Monaco - Sparta, Benfica - Spartak, Shakhtar - Genk... I think you can even take a chance and make a multi-bet on the home team victory in all three matches... The only doubt about Monaco, they played too badly recently in the match against Nantes in the home championship...

[joker_josue]

Tomorrow there will be a lot of return matches of the Champions League... The most interesting in my opinion are Monaco - Sparta, Benfica - Spartak, Shakhtar - Genk... I think you can even take a chance and make a multi-bet on the home team victory in all three matches... The only doubt about Monaco, they played too badly recently in the match against Nantes in the home championship...

At Benfica - Spartak, I think Spartak will try to surprise, but Benfica is starting the season well and it certainly won't make it easier. Furthermore, he has an advantage for having scored two goals in the first leg. But now as they don't count the away goals, Benfica has to play well to guarantee the passage to the next tie.

[LTU_btc]

Tomorrow there will be a lot of return matches of the Champions League... The most interesting in my opinion are Monaco - Sparta, Benfica - Spartak, Shakhtar - Genk... I think you can even take a chance and make a multi-bet on the home team victory in all three matches... The only doubt about Monaco, they played too badly recently in the match against Nantes in the home championship...

I don't agree that these pairs looks most interesting. Monaco and Benfica already took confident wins in away first leg. But multi-bet souns like a good option.
Shakhtar are favorites after win in 1st leg and for single bet on their win odds looks good - 1.85. Same for PSV - 1.97
I hardly can imagine that Crvena Zvezda won't beat Sheriif twice in a row, so I pick their win @1.82
Ludogorets - Olympiacos looks tricky game, I doubt that it will be high scoring, cost of mistake is too big - under 2.5 @1.70
I expect Rangers to win at home, but odds for their win looks nothing special - 1.50. And they need to score 2 goals in order not to send game to extra time.
Slavia - Ferencvaros, Slavia is favorites, but ''Fradi'' have solid advantage from 1st leg, so, it's difficult task for Slavia.
I skip betting on Legia - Dinamo Zagreb, too tricky game.

[casperBGD]

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Shakhtar are favorites after win in 1st leg and for single bet on their win odds looks good - 1.85. Same for PSV - 1.97
I hardly can imagine that Crvena Zvezda won't beat Sheriif twice in a row, so I pick their win @1.82
Ludogorets - Olympiacos looks tricky game, I doubt that it will be high scoring, cost of mistake is too big - under 2.5 @1.70
I expect Rangers to win at home, but odds for their win looks nothing special - 1.50. And they need to score 2 goals in order not to send game to extra time.
Slavia - Ferencvaros, Slavia is favorites, but ''Fradi'' have solid advantage from 1st leg, so, it's difficult task for Slavia.
I skip betting on Legia - Dinamo Zagreb, too tricky game.

agree on most picks, would skip PSV and Shakhtar, but Crvena Zvezda and Rangers are solid picks, that should be wins
Olympiakos has really tough challenge in Bulgaria, and all outcomes are possible there, as well as in Praha, Slavia is a bit better, but Ferencvaros has really good score from first match

regarding Legia, I would probably put some money on Dinamo to pass-through, in the end, they are a bit better team, and 1:1 does not mean that much for Legia, without away goal rule

[gadado]

Never before have I seen PSG as high among the bookmakers as now. Of course that has to do with Messi going to the club. They are top favourites, otherwise it would be a matter of time before they would become champions. Even without Messi.

[kro55]

Tomorrow there will be a lot of return matches of the Champions League... The most interesting in my opinion are Monaco - Sparta, Benfica - Spartak, Shakhtar - Genk... I think you can even take a chance and make a multi-bet on the home team victory in all three matches... The only doubt about Monaco, they played too badly recently in the match against Nantes in the home championship...

At Benfica - Spartak, I think Spartak will try to surprise, but Benfica is starting the season well and it certainly won't make it easier. Furthermore, he has an advantage for having scored two goals in the first leg. But now as they don't count the away goals, Benfica has to play well to guarantee the passage to the next tie.

Benfica is more stable than the Spartak Moscow team. I don't think Moscow will show any surprises. Benfica won the previous match 2-0. Benfica is already a bit ahead. I don't think Spartak will score more than 2 goals against Benfica. I bet on Benfica's victory today.

[3meek]

Tomorrow there will be a lot of return matches of the Champions League... The most interesting in my opinion are Monaco - Sparta, Benfica - Spartak, Shakhtar - Genk... I think you can even take a chance and make a multi-bet on the home team victory in all three matches... The only doubt about Monaco, they played too badly recently in the match against Nantes in the home championship...

At Benfica - Spartak, I think Spartak will try to surprise, but Benfica is starting the season well and it certainly won't make it easier. Furthermore, he has an advantage for having scored two goals in the first leg. But now as they don't count the away goals, Benfica has to play well to guarantee the passage to the next tie.

Benfica is more stable than the Spartak Moscow team. I don't think Moscow will show any surprises. Benfica won the previous match 2-0. Benfica is already a bit ahead. I don't think Spartak will score more than 2 goals against Benfica. I bet on Benfica's victory today.

I agree with you! Spartacus is in terrible shape now! They will not be able to oppose Benfica away... Recently they lost a home match to an outsider in the Russian Premier League... So I'm sure Spartak will lose again today!

[ropyu1978]

PSG and City look like clear favorites, and Bayern and Real probably still look better than Chelsea. They did win it last season and did strengthen, but PSG strengthened a lot more and City will probably too (I expect Kane to end up there).

Do you think that with Messi at PSG, will it be this year that they will be able to reach the final?
Or will they suffer the same problem as other big clubs, having many stars in the same squad?

having a lot of stars in the club, it's good, to boost the morale of players, and can scare weak teams, but to get all the titles, I don't think they can get it, even though other teams don't have many star players and expensive players, but I think Other clubs also have a great opportunity to get champion titles, such as Liferpool, Chelsea, and Dourtmurt.

[Zedpastin]

Never before have I seen PSG as high among the bookmakers as now. Of course that has to do with Messi going to the club. They are top favourites, otherwise it would be a matter of time before they would become champions. Even without Messi.

They have spent the most money this transfers season and Messi is nearly confirmed. They will win the league and they will probably win the Champions League. PSG will be punished for overspending in a couple of years but they would only achieved their goal of champions league. They will be unstoppable for the next couple of years.