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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129803 times)
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August 19, 2021, 11:03:17 PM
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Since Benfica are a little ahead in winning the 1st leg, they will be able to play in the 2nd leg in a somewhat stress-free. And in order to perform well in a match, it is important for the players to be stress-free. Yet PSV is a good enough team. They lost the first match but fought hard. They will also try to win the second match.

I lost my bet in this game, I didn't expect to see a victory for Benfica, at most a draw, but I bet on his defeat.
So, imagine my disappointment when Benfica opened two advantaged goals.

I still believe in a PSV victory in the second leg, but I won't bet anymore... I think I'm underestimating Benfica too much Tongue

Both teams are evenly matches from my point of view. But i think PSV still has an amazing chance at home to turn this around and qualify for the champions league. Both teams with how large their names are deserve to bet in the champions league group stage. I still think PSV will win at home and qualify for the group stage.

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August 19, 2021, 11:07:20 PM
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Benfica didn't surprise me and defeated PSV 2-1. They played effectively in the first half and brought the score to 2-0 already. They didn't do much in the second half which helped PSV find some goal chances. And they managed to make one of them goal. But they couldn't make a comeback at the end. This is a good advantage for Benfica.

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August 20, 2021, 08:07:09 AM
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Benfica didn't surprise me and defeated PSV 2-1. They played effectively in the first half and brought the score to 2-0 already. They didn't do much in the second half which helped PSV find some goal chances. And they managed to make one of them goal. But they couldn't make a comeback at the end. This is a good advantage for Benfica.

Benfica took a 2-0 lead in the first half, which is why they were able to win. They didn't need to score any more goals in the second half, they used defensive tactics. PSV was unable to break Benfica's defense despite many attacks. Both teams showed good enough gameplay.

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August 20, 2021, 09:28:00 AM
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I get that PSV is a good team, they are not a bad team at all, and I like to watch them too, but Benfica didn't really shock the pundits and all when they won, they were always a great team and they won, it was that simple, so why would it be that weird for them to actually end up with a win again? I mean think about it, they won once, how could it be 3.70 for them to end up winning once again? That doesn't make sense.

I always find the Dutch teams a little soft, wobbly when it matters, you know? Good football for sure, and we don't need to be reminded of how exciting they can be as a national team but even Ajax, the silkiest team from Eredivisie, looks suspect every time they come up against other European opposition.

Benfica deserved the win, and I'm also backing them to not lose the next leg. 3.7 is just a reflection of the away tie, how strong PSV are at home, and conversely, how defensively Benfica are expected to play away + all those Dutch bets on the home team;)

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August 20, 2021, 04:51:02 PM
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I get that PSV is a good team, they are not a bad team at all, and I like to watch them too, but Benfica didn't really shock the pundits and all when they won, they were always a great team and they won, it was that simple, so why would it be that weird for them to actually end up with a win again? I mean think about it, they won once, how could it be 3.70 for them to end up winning once again? That doesn't make sense.

I always find the Dutch teams a little soft, wobbly when it matters, you know? Good football for sure, and we don't need to be reminded of how exciting they can be as a national team but even Ajax, the silkiest team from Eredivisie, looks suspect every time they come up against other European opposition.

Benfica deserved the win, and I'm also backing them to not lose the next leg. 3.7 is just a reflection of the away tie, how strong PSV are at home, and conversely, how defensively Benfica are expected to play away + all those Dutch bets on the home team;)

I absolutely agree with you
but you must also consider the greatness of the nation

in any case in the past he gave us glorious players like VanBasten, much loved in Italy and also very good

he was Dutch wasn't he?


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August 20, 2021, 04:58:29 PM
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I absolutely agree with you
but you must also consider the greatness of the nation

in any case in the past he gave us glorious players like VanBasten, much loved in Italy and also very good

he was Dutch wasn't he?

Aye, perhaps. But Malaysia in the 1970s reigned supreme in Asia, and had great footballers with incredible minds. Can't always live in the past, and they've never recovered from their highs of 50 years ago.

Salah maybe also now reminds people of what Egypt can be capable of producing but it doesn't prove Egypt's a great footballing nation. Many examples to cherry pick of course, but I said what I said about Eredivisie on current form=)

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August 20, 2021, 05:33:35 PM
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I was surprised how PSV was able to completely seize the initiative in the second half and I think that Benfica was very lucky to end the match with such a score. Given the minimal advantage that Benfica has, it seems to me that PSV will be the clear favorite in the home match.
And I see that the bookmakers agree with me:
1,95 - 3,65 - 3,70
Do you really think that just being at home can make THAT much of a difference? First game is now won by Benfica, and people are saying PSV will win easily? I mean 1.95 odds is not "easily" I will agree to that but at the end of the day we are talking about something that is still high favored and that is a very important thing, one team winning the game while the other being the favored is not an easy task. So, how come this happened?

I get that PSV is a good team, they are not a bad team at all, and I like to watch them too, but Benfica didn't really shock the pundits and all when they won, they were always a great team and they won, it was that simple, so why would it be that weird for them to actually end up with a win again? I mean think about it, they won once, how could it be 3.70 for them to end up winning once again? That doesn't make sense.

Sure. To understand the difference, you just need to compare the current odds and the odds that the bookmakers gave for the first match. Now PSV is a clear favorite, of course this is partly due to its excellent performance in the second half, but in my opinion, the factor of his own field is of decisive importance.

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August 20, 2021, 05:37:55 PM
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PSV's defeat in the first leg, I think it's not a bad result because PSV has a good statistical record too, but that doesn't mean PSV will easily turn things around in the second leg because Benfica is also not a weak team.

in this game it was very clear that PSV could have won very easily, unfortunately PSV had no luck and the defense of the goalkeeper - benfica's  is very good, benfica is very fragile in the defensive issue and if PSV can have more hits in the plays what to do next, then they can easily score 3 goals and turn the game around easily and comfortably, however if benfica manages to score 2 goals in the next game then it's over for PSV

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August 20, 2021, 05:45:15 PM
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One of the interesting draws is Monaco v Shakhtar now. Monaco were defeated by them 1-0 home in the first leg. They had a really shocking start to the season for sure. If Shakhtar manage to make use of this chance, we will not see Monaco in the Champions League groups. The second leg is going to be played in a different stadium rather than Shakhtar's. So Monaco have a really tough job to do there. I still hope them to qualify for the group stage.
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August 20, 2021, 06:49:57 PM
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One of the interesting draws is Monaco v Shakhtar now. Monaco were defeated by them 1-0 home in the first leg. They had a really shocking start to the season for sure. If Shakhtar manage to make use of this chance, we will not see Monaco in the Champions League groups. The second leg is going to be played in a different stadium rather than Shakhtar's. So Monaco have a really tough job to do there. I still hope them to qualify for the group stage.

Monaco will not win the next match against Shakhtar Donetsk. They can draw the match. Shakhtar likes defensive play. As I have seen in previous matches, when they scored 1 goal Shakhtar did not make any special attempt to attack. They wanted to win 1-0 and they were able to. They will follow the same strategy in the next match.

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August 20, 2021, 07:15:23 PM
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Monaco will not win the next match against Shakhtar Donetsk. They can draw the match. Shakhtar likes defensive play. As I have seen in previous matches, when they scored 1 goal Shakhtar did not make any special attempt to attack. They wanted to win 1-0 and they were able to. They will follow the same strategy in the next match.

How strong is your confidence? At the moment, bookmakers give the following odds for the outcome of this match:
3,00 - 3,35 - 2,33
If you are completely sure that Monaco will not be able to win, then by placing a bet on the two remaining outcomes, you can easily get 50% of the profit. But judging by the odds given by the bookmakers, they rate Monaco as a favorite (as well as in the first match where they made a serious mistake).

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August 20, 2021, 07:33:44 PM
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One of the interesting draws is Monaco v Shakhtar now. Monaco were defeated by them 1-0 home in the first leg. They had a really shocking start to the season for sure. If Shakhtar manage to make use of this chance, we will not see Monaco in the Champions League groups. The second leg is going to be played in a different stadium rather than Shakhtar's. So Monaco have a really tough job to do there. I still hope them to qualify for the group stage.

Monaco will not win the next match against Shakhtar Donetsk. They can draw the match. Shakhtar likes defensive play. As I have seen in previous matches, when they scored 1 goal Shakhtar did not make any special attempt to attack. They wanted to win 1-0 and they were able to. They will follow the same strategy in the next match.

I agree with you. Monaco will fail to win if Shakhtar Donetsk adopts defensive tactics. Monaco is not a bad team, but they are not strong enough to break Shakhtar Donetsk's defense and win the match by scoring a goal. When a team prioritizes defensive play over the attack, it is much harder to score against them. Without an experienced and talented player and without the help of luck, It is almost impossible to score a goal.

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August 20, 2021, 08:03:33 PM
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Benfica took a 2-0 lead in the first half, which is why they were able to win. They didn't need to score any more goals in the second half, they used defensive tactics. PSV was unable to break Benfica's defense despite many attacks. Both teams showed good enough gameplay.
Going 2-0 in the first half against a team that suppose to be better than you is not an easy task neither, I mean don't get me wrong kudos to their amazing defense on the second half as well but that was just the easy part if you ask me, that is not going to be that though to not get scored 2 goals in one half, all you have to do is play good defense and yes that is a good thing too but scoring 2 goals in the first half was the key there.

They played very well and they are going to play well again next time they play as well. I do not get the odds neither, it is definitely going to be very tough for PSV, because Benfica showed that they have both great offense because they scored twice in first half, but showed great defense on second half as well, which means that they will be great on both sides next time they face each other as well, let alone a win from PSV, I may see Benfica winning as well.
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August 20, 2021, 09:29:00 PM
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Monaco will not win the next match against Shakhtar Donetsk. They can draw the match. Shakhtar likes defensive play. As I have seen in previous matches, when they scored 1 goal Shakhtar did not make any special attempt to attack. They wanted to win 1-0 and they were able to. They will follow the same strategy in the next match.

How strong is your confidence? At the moment, bookmakers give the following odds for the outcome of this match:
3,00 - 3,35 - 2,33
If you are completely sure that Monaco will not be able to win, then by placing a bet on the two remaining outcomes, you can easily get 50% of the profit. But judging by the odds given by the bookmakers, they rate Monaco as a favorite (as well as in the first match where they made a serious mistake).

My guess is Monaco's next match will be a draw. They will draw 1-1. And I'm interested in betting on it. Maybe Monaco is preferred by bookies. But I don't think so. My guess is that Shakhtar will go to the next round. Wait and see what will happen. I may lose the bet, but I will feel free to place the bet as per my choice.

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August 21, 2021, 02:59:02 PM
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Monaco will not win the next match against Shakhtar Donetsk. They can draw the match. Shakhtar likes defensive play. As I have seen in previous matches, when they scored 1 goal Shakhtar did not make any special attempt to attack. They wanted to win 1-0 and they were able to. They will follow the same strategy in the next match.

How strong is your confidence? At the moment, bookmakers give the following odds for the outcome of this match:
3,00 - 3,35 - 2,33
If you are completely sure that Monaco will not be able to win, then by placing a bet on the two remaining outcomes, you can easily get 50% of the profit. But judging by the odds given by the bookmakers, they rate Monaco as a favorite (as well as in the first match where they made a serious mistake).

My guess is Monaco's next match will be a draw. They will draw 1-1. And I'm interested in betting on it. Maybe Monaco is preferred by bookies. But I don't think so. My guess is that Shakhtar will go to the next round. Wait and see what will happen. I may lose the bet, but I will feel free to place the bet as per my choice.

If you guess right, you will get a good profit) Personally, for some reason, it seems to me that Monaco will win, but Shakhtar will advance to the next round (I don't know from the results of extra time or penalty shootout). I will think about making a bet during the match, I think a lot will become clear in the first half.

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August 21, 2021, 08:09:11 PM
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Monaco will not win the next match against Shakhtar Donetsk. They can draw the match. Shakhtar likes defensive play. As I have seen in previous matches, when they scored 1 goal Shakhtar did not make any special attempt to attack. They wanted to win 1-0 and they were able to. They will follow the same strategy in the next match.

How strong is your confidence? At the moment, bookmakers give the following odds for the outcome of this match:
3,00 - 3,35 - 2,33
If you are completely sure that Monaco will not be able to win, then by placing a bet on the two remaining outcomes, you can easily get 50% of the profit. But judging by the odds given by the bookmakers, they rate Monaco as a favorite (as well as in the first match where they made a serious mistake).

My guess is Monaco's next match will be a draw. They will draw 1-1. And I'm interested in betting on it. Maybe Monaco is preferred by bookies. But I don't think so. My guess is that Shakhtar will go to the next round. Wait and see what will happen. I may lose the bet, but I will feel free to place the bet as per my choice.

If you guess right, you will get a good profit) Personally, for some reason, it seems to me that Monaco will win, but Shakhtar will advance to the next round (I don't know from the results of extra time or penalty shootout). I will think about making a bet during the match, I think a lot will become clear in the first half.

I think bookmakers are a bit misled by Monaco's last season. I watched a few summaries and there were very often extremely close games with the lucky end for Monaco. Just assume that 5 or 6 games do not turn out to be positively ending for Monaco and you can place them a couple of spots down the table. It was very rare that they had a strong win with like solid 3 - 1 or whatever, you know what I mean. Everything worked out perfectly for them. I am not sure what the squad looks like for Donetsk right now, but they aren't easy to beat for a team like Monaco. Also, Donetsk plays at home. Doesn't look very well for Monaco.

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August 22, 2021, 05:15:34 AM
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Monaco will not win the next match against Shakhtar Donetsk. They can draw the match. Shakhtar likes defensive play. As I have seen in previous matches, when they scored 1 goal Shakhtar did not make any special attempt to attack. They wanted to win 1-0 and they were able to. They will follow the same strategy in the next match.

How strong is your confidence? At the moment, bookmakers give the following odds for the outcome of this match:
3,00 - 3,35 - 2,33
If you are completely sure that Monaco will not be able to win, then by placing a bet on the two remaining outcomes, you can easily get 50% of the profit. But judging by the odds given by the bookmakers, they rate Monaco as a favorite (as well as in the first match where they made a serious mistake).
My guess is Monaco's next match will be a draw. They will draw 1-1. And I'm interested in betting on it. Maybe Monaco is preferred by bookies. But I don't think so. My guess is that Shakhtar will go to the next round. Wait and see what will happen. I may lose the bet, but I will feel free to place the bet as per my choice.
If you guess right, you will get a good profit) Personally, for some reason, it seems to me that Monaco will win, but Shakhtar will advance to the next round (I don't know from the results of extra time or penalty shootout). I will think about making a bet during the match, I think a lot will become clear in the first half.
I think bookmakers are a bit misled by Monaco's last season. I watched a few summaries and there were very often extremely close games with the lucky end for Monaco. Just assume that 5 or 6 games do not turn out to be positively ending for Monaco and you can place them a couple of spots down the table. It was very rare that they had a strong win with like solid 3 - 1 or whatever, you know what I mean. Everything worked out perfectly for them. I am not sure what the squad looks like for Donetsk right now, but they aren't easy to beat for a team like Monaco. Also, Donetsk plays at home. Doesn't look very well for Monaco.

I also know that the Monaco team is good enough. But the team is not in good form now. So my doubt is whether they will be able to perform well in the next match. They have lost 3 matches in a row. They also lost against Lens yesterday. And since the next match is the home match for Shakhtar Donetsk. So I am putting the Shakhtar team ahead.

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August 22, 2021, 06:15:16 AM
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My guess is Monaco's next match will be a draw. They will draw 1-1. And I'm interested in betting on it. Maybe Monaco is preferred by bookies. But I don't think so. My guess is that Shakhtar will go to the next round. Wait and see what will happen. I may lose the bet, but I will feel free to place the bet as per my choice.
Monaco didn't manage the match, hard to get the winner on Shakhtar home, I will bet Shakhta. Monaco lost yesterday (0-2, Lens) in a home!. that could be a problem with strategy and formation, 3 games ( 1 draw and 2 lost). Monaco as I remembered created a wonder kid Mbappe, monaco create champions Ligue 1 either, and semifinals champions league in 2017 but now that club is stuck on underboard. maybe they lost the capital and can't develop since Ranieri left the club.

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August 22, 2021, 08:00:11 AM
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My guess is Monaco's next match will be a draw. They will draw 1-1. And I'm interested in betting on it. Maybe Monaco is preferred by bookies. But I don't think so. My guess is that Shakhtar will go to the next round. Wait and see what will happen. I may lose the bet, but I will feel free to place the bet as per my choice.
Monaco didn't manage the match, hard to get the winner on Shakhtar home, I will bet Shakhta. Monaco lost yesterday (0-2, Lens) in a home!. that could be a problem with strategy and formation, 3 games ( 1 draw and 2 lost). Monaco as I remembered created a wonder kid Mbappe, monaco create champions Ligue 1 either, and semifinals champions league in 2017 but now that club is stuck on underboard. maybe they lost the capital and can't develop since Ranieri left the club.

The team has not been stable so far this season. Must be stable for good performance. Shakhtar is not a weak team, they need a good performance to win against them. However, in the 2nd leg, Monaco will definitely want to win. If Shakhtar makes any mistake in the match, they will be defeated. Monaco has not played well this season but they are an experienced team. Above all, we will have the opportunity to enjoy a competitive match.

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August 22, 2021, 09:34:45 AM
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Dinamo Zagreb are one of the surprising team of this round. They got a very surprising result Sheriff Tiraspol, 3-0. We've watched Dinamo Zagreb play in the Champions League for a long time. But this time it seems like they are in a really big trouble. It will be very hard for them to turn things around but it is not impossible. They must fully focus on the rematch to have a chance for the group stage.

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