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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129803 times)
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March 20, 2022, 11:50:14 PM
Last edit: March 21, 2022, 12:32:27 AM by AndySt
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My expectation from the Chelsea - Real Madrid draw is that Real Madrid can move Chelsea out of this tournament this time. They had a bad experience against Chelsea last season. I don't think that the history will repeat itself here. We are all seeing a much stronger Real Madrid in this season until this point. We all saw how they destroyed PSG despite being in a bad situation first. And I don't see the same Chelsea in this season. I don't feel like they can eliminate Real Madrid once again by this level of performance.
Real Madrid has been lost in El Classico Laliga. Will it also give influence to the mental of the players? Although maybe they purposely did not play hard because they want to save their power to play against Chelsea.
But exactly, bot Real Madrid and Chelsea are a big clubs, they may be drawn in the first leg, but something interesting and surprising may be also existed during the game and probably will be a surprising result of the game. At least, they must let all power to face each other in the field and to prove wihc one is better
I would like to see how Real Madrid would have destroyed Paris Saint-Germain if it hadn't been for Donnarumma's dude trick and the subsequent collapse of the entire game of the club from Paris Wink Also, a lot will depend on whether Benzema will participate in the match, because Real Madrid with Benzema and Real Madrid without Benzema are two big differences and the current El Classico showed all this with great clarity. Therefore, for me personally, the result of the match between Real Madrid and Chelsea is by no means obvious, despite the bright victory of Real Madrid in the match with Paris Saint-Germain, which until a certain time was also by no means obvious.
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March 21, 2022, 02:02:27 AM
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Chelsea is a team that should not be underestimated. They recently won the Champions League, and in that season they were definitely not favorites to win the tournament. What they showed in the tournament then was very convincing. Didn't they easily win at Real Madrid with 0-1 or 0-2? That should have been 0-4 then. And in London 0-0 I seem to remember. Real didn't stand a chance against this roughly comparable team in those 2 games.
Indeed, Chelsea should not be underestimated, it applies not only to Chelsea but also to all the teams that compete, especially in this Champions League. We will always witness surprises, not only for the big favorite teams but also for the teams that have the title of "dark horse" because they are not underdogs.
They must have prepared the best strategy to continue to appear and fight for the title.

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March 21, 2022, 02:14:50 AM
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Chelsea is a team that should not be underestimated. They recently won the Champions League, and in that season they were definitely not favorites to win the tournament. What they showed in the tournament then was very convincing. Didn't they easily win at Real Madrid with 0-1 or 0-2? That should have been 0-4 then. And in London 0-0 I seem to remember. Real didn't stand a chance against this roughly comparable team in those 2 games.
Now things are different at every club including the coach too, like the current Real Madrid coach Carlo Ancelotti who has a lot of experience in drafting players for the Champions League and that has been proven in the past before Zidane became Real Madrid coach last season.
So obviously there will be a difference for this season at Real Madrid even though what Real Madrid are up against is last season's trophy winners.
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March 21, 2022, 04:03:56 AM
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My expectation from the Chelsea - Real Madrid draw is that Real Madrid can move Chelsea out of this tournament this time. They had a bad experience against Chelsea last season. I don't think that the history will repeat itself here. We are all seeing a much stronger Real Madrid in this season until this point. We all saw how they destroyed PSG despite being in a bad situation first. And I don't see the same Chelsea in this season. I don't feel like they can eliminate Real Madrid once again by this level of performance.
Real Madrid has been lost in El Classico Laliga. Will it also give influence to the mental of the players? Although maybe they purposely did not play hard because they want to save their power to play against Chelsea.
But exactly, bot Real Madrid and Chelsea are a big clubs, they may be drawn in the first leg, but something interesting and surprising may be also existed during the game and probably will be a surprising result of the game. At least, they must let all power to face each other in the field and to prove wihc one is better
I would like to see how Real Madrid would have destroyed Paris Saint-Germain if it hadn't been for Donnarumma's dude trick and the subsequent collapse of the entire game of the club from Paris Wink Also, a lot will depend on whether Benzema will participate in the match, because Real Madrid with Benzema and Real Madrid without Benzema are two big differences and the current El Classico showed all this with great clarity. Therefore, for me personally, the result of the match between Real Madrid and Chelsea is by no means obvious, despite the bright victory of Real Madrid in the match with Paris Saint-Germain, which until a certain time was also by no means obvious.

PSG's squad was strong, but PSG was defeated due to a lack of mutual understanding between the players. But Chelsea will not make the same mistake as PSG. Chelsea has a strong squad. Their performance in the Premier League is also consistent. Moreover, if Chelsea's defenders will stop Benzema, they will be able to win. Real Madrid rely on Benzema's goals to win against strong teams.

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March 21, 2022, 05:29:53 AM
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My expectation from the Chelsea - Real Madrid draw is that Real Madrid can move Chelsea out of this tournament this time. They had a bad experience against Chelsea last season. I don't think that the history will repeat itself here. We are all seeing a much stronger Real Madrid in this season until this point. We all saw how they destroyed PSG despite being in a bad situation first. And I don't see the same Chelsea in this season. I don't feel like they can eliminate Real Madrid once again by this level of performance.

Chelsea performances show that they can still eliminate real Madrid from this tournament because they did it last season, and they will still do it again in this season. Since Chelsea players are fully prepared to defeat real Madrid team which is among the strong team in this tournament that can challenge Chelsea. PSG players missed a lot of opportunities in their last match that gave real Madrid opportunity to achive victory at th end of the match. Chelsea team is different from other teams, in terms of using different strategies to achieve victory which Chelsea coach is capable for in this season and he is willing to introduce more strategies that will give them victory at the end of the tournament.

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March 21, 2022, 05:53:48 AM
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Chelsea have cemented themselves as one of the biggest club in the world not just because of their successes in recent years but due to how they have been able to be consistent in the face of adversity. Not too many club can face these sanctions and disruption in club's hierarchy and still perform this good. This mentality alone should make Madrid worried. I will bet Chelsea to qualify ahead of them because this team has been more consistent and strong mentally.
No doubt Chelsea is now one off the best clubs in world, but they are currently at third spot in Premier League, and it all happened just because of their unpredictable results, so they are improving but now going to face another best club around the globe which is having amazing results under manager Ancelotti in this season and in last round as they defeat PSG it's surely their best part of this season so here we are going to face two clubs with equal in performance and skilled players so on his day any team can win and go through into semifinal which is next destination for these all teams.

For me, Real Madrid is having better chance for qualifying with their last results they are really high in confidence and their most players are improving very good after this win against giants of French Soccer.
When Chelsea started this season they started as Europa Champions, their poor performance was as a result of the absence of their players due to injuries, in the last two months many of their players are returning and their side have gotten stronger.


Actually, I would have believed that Chelsea would win, but unfortunately political factors also play an important role at the moment. I find it sad that a traditional club like Chelsea is currently being put under so much pressure. It's not fair to the fans. I wish Chelsea could defend their title but can they do it?
I agree with you that what is happening to Chelsea in terms of politics is something very unfair, not only to Chelsea fans, but to all Football fans. Political issues should not be included in the sport of football.
I believe Chelsea will be able to stay until the end of the 2021/2022 season with a good performance and I see Chelsea very focused on every competition they are in. Lastly they also won against Middlesbrough. But against Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League will be a big challenge for them.

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March 21, 2022, 05:54:15 AM
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PSG's squad was strong, but PSG was defeated due to a lack of mutual understanding between the players. But Chelsea will not make the same mistake as PSG. Chelsea has a strong squad. Their performance in the Premier League is also consistent. Moreover, if Chelsea's defenders will stop Benzema, they will be able to win. Real Madrid rely on Benzema's goals to win against strong teams.
It is very interesting to see Real Madrid and Chelsea meet again in the quarter-finals of the Champions League. Previously, Chelsea and Real Madrid had met five times, from those five meetings Chelsea never lost to Real Madrid, Chelsea won 3 times and drew 2 times.
This meeting, Real Madrid will carry out the mission of revenge for the bad results obtained from Chelsea, Real Madrid must get rid of Chelsea from the Champions League or even those who is again stopped by the English club.

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March 21, 2022, 06:14:43 AM
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My expectation from the Chelsea - Real Madrid draw is that Real Madrid can move Chelsea out of this tournament this time. They had a bad experience against Chelsea last season. I don't think that the history will repeat itself here. We are all seeing a much stronger Real Madrid in this season until this point. We all saw how they destroyed PSG despite being in a bad situation first. And I don't see the same Chelsea in this season. I don't feel like they can eliminate Real Madrid once again by this level of performance.
Real Madrid has been lost in El Classico Laliga. Will it also give influence to the mental of the players? Although maybe they purposely did not play hard because they want to save their power to play against Chelsea.
But exactly, bot Real Madrid and Chelsea are a big clubs, they may be drawn in the first leg, but something interesting and surprising may be also existed during the game and probably will be a surprising result of the game. At least, they must let all power to face each other in the field and to prove wihc one is better
I would like to see how Real Madrid would have destroyed Paris Saint-Germain if it hadn't been for Donnarumma's dude trick and the subsequent collapse of the entire game of the club from Paris Wink Also, a lot will depend on whether Benzema will participate in the match, because Real Madrid with Benzema and Real Madrid without Benzema are two big differences and the current El Classico showed all this with great clarity. Therefore, for me personally, the result of the match between Real Madrid and Chelsea is by no means obvious, despite the bright victory of Real Madrid in the match with Paris Saint-Germain, which until a certain time was also by no means obvious.

PSG's squad was strong, but PSG was defeated due to a lack of mutual understanding between the players. But Chelsea will not make the same mistake as PSG. Chelsea has a strong squad. Their performance in the Premier League is also consistent. Moreover, if Chelsea's defenders will stop Benzema, they will be able to win. Real Madrid rely on Benzema's goals to win against strong teams.

With Messi, Neymar, Mbappe and others, we all agree that PSG is a strong team. But the fact is that a strong team with many star players may
not necessarily win, because what's interesting about football is that it takes solid cooperation between players in order to win. This has not been
owned by PSG so far, Pochettino in my opinion failed to make the star players at PSG able to work well together. So it's not surprising that PSG
were finally knocked out of the Champions League.

While Real Madrid has good cooperation between one player and another. But the problem with Real Madrid is they depend too much on Benzema
to score goals. So like you said if Chelsea defenders are able to stop Benzema there is a chance Chelsea can beat Real Madrid. And I'm sure with
Tuchel's experience, he knows that too and will order Chelsea players to limit the movement of Benzema. Actually, both Chelsea and Real Madrid
have the same chance to win, because both have almost the same quality of players. But why do I prefer Real Madrid, because Real Madrid has
a history of winning the Champions League more and that's what makes the mentality of Real Madrid players stronger than Chelsea.

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March 21, 2022, 06:50:27 AM
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Chelsea is a team that should not be underestimated. They recently won the Champions League, and in that season they were definitely not favorites to win the tournament. What they showed in the tournament then was very convincing. Didn't they easily win at Real Madrid with 0-1 or 0-2? That should have been 0-4 then. And in London 0-0 I seem to remember. Real didn't stand a chance against this roughly comparable team in those 2 games.
Now things are different at every club including the coach too, like the current Real Madrid coach Carlo Ancelotti who has a lot of experience in drafting players for the Champions League and that has been proven in the past before Zidane became Real Madrid coach last season.
So obviously there will be a difference for this season at Real Madrid even though what Real Madrid are up against is last season's trophy winners.
Maybe a bit different for Chelsea. In the past, they played enjoy without the pressure because they haven't the trophy, but now they have the burden as defending champion, I'm not sure they play loose even as host on 7th April. Real Madrid looks on fire and Benzema's performance is still very good, but Ancelotti sometimes is playing too defensive where is the possible draw or loss with 1 different goal.

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March 21, 2022, 07:25:34 AM
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My expectation from the Chelsea - Real Madrid draw is that Real Madrid can move Chelsea out of this tournament this time. They had a bad experience against Chelsea last season. I don't think that the history will repeat itself here. We are all seeing a much stronger Real Madrid in this season until this point. We all saw how they destroyed PSG despite being in a bad situation first. And I don't see the same Chelsea in this season. I don't feel like they can eliminate Real Madrid once again by this level of performance.
Real Madrid has been lost in El Classico Laliga. Will it also give influence to the mental of the players? Although maybe they purposely did not play hard because they want to save their power to play against Chelsea.
But exactly, bot Real Madrid and Chelsea are a big clubs, they may be drawn in the first leg, but something interesting and surprising may be also existed during the game and probably will be a surprising result of the game. At least, they must let all power to face each other in the field and to prove wihc one is better
I would like to see how Real Madrid would have destroyed Paris Saint-Germain if it hadn't been for Donnarumma's dude trick and the subsequent collapse of the entire game of the club from Paris Wink Also, a lot will depend on whether Benzema will participate in the match, because Real Madrid with Benzema and Real Madrid without Benzema are two big differences and the current El Classico showed all this with great clarity. Therefore, for me personally, the result of the match between Real Madrid and Chelsea is by no means obvious, despite the bright victory of Real Madrid in the match with Paris Saint-Germain, which until a certain time was also by no means obvious.
Real Madrid this season is very dependent on Karim Benzema with his absence in the EL Clasico, making Real Madrid have to accept the defeat to Barcelona with a big score without reply, so if Benzema can not appear later when Real Madrid against Chelsea in the quarter-finals then this will be a good chance for the chelsea team to win the game, but their chelsea team also have to play much better and not make the slightest mistake so as not to waste this good opportunity.

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March 21, 2022, 09:24:03 AM
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^ Come on guys, you really think Real gets distracted for a blip in La Liga? They probably knew they were coming into that game with their weakest side in years against a resurgent Barca. And they would happily have rested Benzema even if he were half-fit, in preparation for Chelsea.

Chelsea are the favourites, and rightly so, but Real have experience and streetsmarts. Way too much of both to be affected by the El Clasico sidequest.

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March 21, 2022, 10:01:44 AM
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^ Come on guys, you really think Real gets distracted for a blip in La Liga? They probably knew they were coming into that game with their weakest side in years against a resurgent Barca. And they would happily have rested Benzema even if he were half-fit, in preparation for Chelsea.

Chelsea are the favourites, and rightly so, but Real have experience and streetsmarts. Way too much of both to be affected by the El Clasico sidequest.
It's true, even though Real Madrid had a poor result in La Liga, in its El Clasico duel, Real Madrid is not a team that is as weak as mentally crushed. Even though they got a result that took people by surprise, I'm sure in the Champions League they will come back, yes they will come back with a win.
Chelsea are also the favorites in this encounter, but again, I'm sure that Real Madrid will be able to handle it.

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March 21, 2022, 10:09:20 AM
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^ Come on guys, you really think Real gets distracted for a blip in La Liga? They probably knew they were coming into that game with their weakest side in years against a resurgent Barca. And they would happily have rested Benzema even if he were half-fit, in preparation for Chelsea.

Chelsea are the favourites, and rightly so, but Real have experience and streetsmarts. Way too much of both to be affected by the El Clasico sidequest.
It's true, even though Real Madrid had a poor result in La Liga, in its El Clasico duel, Real Madrid is not a team that is as weak as mentally crushed. Even though they got a result that took people by surprise, I'm sure in the Champions League they will come back, yes they will come back with a win.
Chelsea are also the favorites in this encounter, but again, I'm sure that Real Madrid will be able to handle it.
I wouldn't consider real madrid to be weak team because of their performance against Barcelona in laliga,  sometimes are like that   you can just always expect good performance from a team.  Time like this when a team performance is so low it encourages the team to do better to perform well.
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March 21, 2022, 10:55:10 AM
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Chelsea is a team that should not be underestimated. They recently won the Champions League, and in that season they were definitely not favorites to win the tournament.
Who underestimates Chelsea? Don't you understand what I wrote above?  Roll Eyes
If you read deeply, you must know if I appreciate the current performance of Chelsea. What we saw, Chelsea is getting stronger once all injured players have returned and played regularly again. It is a clear warning for Real Madrid players to anticipate a surprising performance of Chelsea in this round. Moreover, Real Madrid has just been defeated by Barcelona in La Liga (0-4), I doubt it will make their mentality a bit decrease.


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March 21, 2022, 11:14:46 AM
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Chelsea is a team that should not be underestimated. They recently won the Champions League, and in that season they were definitely not favorites to win the tournament.
Who underestimates Chelsea? Don't you understand what I wrote above?  Roll Eyes
If you read deeply, you must know if I appreciate the current performance of Chelsea. What we saw, Chelsea is getting stronger once all injured players have returned and played regularly again. It is a clear warning for Real Madrid players to anticipate a surprising performance of Chelsea in this round. Moreover, Real Madrid has just been defeated by Barcelona in La Liga (0-4), I doubt it will make their mentality a bit decrease.





We should appreciate Thomas Tuchel for giving encouragement to Chelsea players in the midst of the sanctions they have received in football this season, even though Real Madrid are currently on fire in the European arena but they are still at the top of the La Liga standings even though this morning they were defeated by rivals Barcelona 0-4 in El Clasico, but the meeting between the two is very interesting for us to look forward to in the Champions League quarter-finals in April

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March 21, 2022, 12:10:36 PM
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With Messi, Neymar, Mbappe and others, we all agree that PSG is a strong team. But the fact is that a strong team with many star players may
not necessarily win, because what's interesting about football is that it takes solid cooperation between players in order to win. This has not been
owned by PSG so far, Pochettino in my opinion failed to make the star players at PSG able to work well together. So it's not surprising that PSG
were finally knocked out of the Champions League.

While Real Madrid has good cooperation between one player and another. But the problem with Real Madrid is they depend too much on Benzema
to score goals. So like you said if Chelsea defenders are able to stop Benzema there is a chance Chelsea can beat Real Madrid. And I'm sure with
Tuchel's experience, he knows that too and will order Chelsea players to limit the movement of Benzema. Actually, both Chelsea and Real Madrid
have the same chance to win, because both have almost the same quality of players. But why do I prefer Real Madrid, because Real Madrid has
a history of winning the Champions League more and that's what makes the mentality of Real Madrid players stronger than Chelsea.

I don't think the manager is the problem. Pochettino cannot be blamed everything. We have heard rumours of the fractions in the dressing room, the south American and the European fraction. The Psg players do not have a good relationship with one another
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March 21, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
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Chelsea has a better chance in the champion league but because of the many sanctions facing the club owner and the club because of their Russian involvement it weak the club morale in the premier league that being said Chelsea stands a better chance to take home the trophy.

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March 21, 2022, 02:11:25 PM
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I already have my favourites for the semi-finals after seeing the draws for the quarter-finals. I think that Liverpool, Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are very likely to reach next round. Benfica did a huge job by eliminating Ajax but I'm afraid this is the end of the road. And Manchester City wouldn't make a big mistake against Atletico Madrid too. Atletico Madrid have reached this round because of Manchester United's bad look. Chelsea - Real Madrid is a really tough matchup but I believe Real Madrid are better now. And Bayern Munich would finish Villarreal off as well.

Bayern Munich have the easiest opponent especially considering the squad available for the German giants as well as their position in the table. That's where I have conflicting ideas about city v athletico. City won't underestimate athletico however I feel they may be surprised at how well they work as a unit. Clearly shown against United. But then again, man City are a different class comapared to Manchester United and will no doubt be passing it in the final third making many chances which no doubt they have the talent to take. The issue for pep will be with 9 games left in the premier league, he may win them both, or he could lose them both. Liverpool will make quick work there attack is too strong. With all the Russian drama at the moment Chelsea will have something to fight for and will put up a fight. But I feel that come the second leg, real will adapt and win the tie. Looking forward to it

I didn't say so much thing about the Chelsea - Real Madrid draw. As I said before, I see Real Madrid being one step ahead of Chelsea to advance currently. But you have a good point there too as this big incident about Abramovich can motivate Chelsea to eliminate their competitors one by one too. But this time won't be that easy for Chelsea. In the last season of the Champions League, Real Madrid were playing really desperately against them. And their general look also wasn't that good. But now, there is a completely new Real Madrid.
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March 21, 2022, 03:04:59 PM
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Nah. It not everyone wants to see the surprises you guys wish for especially people like me who place a bet on the less chance club to lose the game and just like ropyu1978 it is difficult to defeat the big club....
Yes betting on the underdog with juicy odds is definitely part of the wish for an upset. It's also called an upset or surprise for the very reason that it won't be easy. A "David vs Goliath" match is a good story to tell and sell to fans.
You seem not to understand my point because I was not betting on the underdog, I was betting against them and I don't want them to surprise me either. Thats the reason why I told the previous user that it's not everybody that wants any form of surprise party from the underdog and sure most gamblers that bet on the game also want the same thing.

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March 21, 2022, 03:11:50 PM
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^ Come on guys, you really think Real gets distracted for a blip in La Liga? They probably knew they were coming into that game with their weakest side in years against a resurgent Barca. And they would happily have rested Benzema even if he were half-fit, in preparation for Chelsea.

Chelsea are the favourites, and rightly so, but Real have experience and streetsmarts. Way too much of both to be affected by the El Clasico sidequest.

They had same experience but couldn't win over Barcelona.
Repeating the same thing for Chelsea will be very embarrassing as they will be knocked out once more by the same team in two years.
Despite all the happenings, Chelsea are a very focused team and still hitting the hammer on the nail.

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