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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129806 times)
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April 01, 2022, 06:01:20 PM
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Real Madrid vs Chelsea draws is one fixture I never looked up to or wished never happened at this point of the game. They are both champions of the UCL and having one to eliminate the other right now takes off some of the fun of the game for me. Never the less, they've got to face themselves on Wednesday 6th April and if I don't know any better, I think here ends the line for Chelsea as I don't see a way that they would make it past Real Madrid. After such an awesome come back Real Madrid did with PSG, its shows there level of preparedness and determination to win the league once more without CR7 on the team. It makes it hard to not picture them in the finals.
Chelsea outplayed them in both legs of the Champions League last season, and little has changed in both teams. Real Madrid's weakness has been their midfielders when it comes to tracking back, as Modric and Kloss are both aging and find it difficult to perform well when playing against younger midfielders, which was Chelsea's edge over them last season, I'm banking on Chelsea to win both games.

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April 01, 2022, 06:14:37 PM
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Therefore, the match Chelsea vs Real Madrid which will be played on April 7 is still difficult to predict who will make it through and this match will prove to be a midfield for both teams.
Let's just say Real Madrid will win at home like they beat PSG but they will lose in England. Chelsea should have used the first leg to win because they were playing at home, but the second leg will be a win for Real Madrid because I don't think there's anything wrong with hoping the same scenario will be repeated in the quarter-finals involving Chelsea and Real Madrid.

Chelsea's quality is not the same as PSG's because I think Chelsea is better than them if the mentality of the team is the reference. Chelsea can beat Real Madrid and vice versa can also happen. Real Madrid are expected to qualify but it really depends on the chances they have during the match.

 
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April 01, 2022, 06:19:22 PM
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Chelsea outplayed them in both legs of the Champions League last season, and little has changed in both teams. Real Madrid's weakness has been their midfielders when it comes to tracking back, as Modric and Kloss are both aging and find it difficult to perform well when playing against younger midfielders, which was Chelsea's edge over them last season, I'm banking on Chelsea to win both games.
I don't think so, their midfielders are still good enough for now but the problem is they are still struggling in attack. when Benzema can't play they always lose their way in attack and goal scorer.
They still can't replace Benzema there and it's quite dangerous if Benzema can't play because this is proven when they play in La Liga when Benzema can't play then indirectly their performance drops

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April 01, 2022, 06:29:06 PM
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The midfielders are still in good shape, but they always suffer against high-intensity midfielders, like they did against Barcelona's high-pressing midfielders; playing both Kross and Modric together is no longer an option; they must find a solution. Without Bezemba, the team appears to be average; this is what occurs when a team is built on a single player.

Chelsea outplayed them in both legs of the Champions League last season, and little has changed in both teams. Real Madrid's weakness has been their midfielders when it comes to tracking back, as Modric and Kloss are both aging and find it difficult to perform well when playing against younger midfielders, which was Chelsea's edge over them last season, I'm banking on Chelsea to win both games.
I don't think so, their midfielders are still good enough for now but the problem is they are still struggling in attack. when Benzema can't play they always lose their way in attack and goal scorer.
They still can't replace Benzema there and it's quite dangerous if Benzema can't play because this is proven when they play in La Liga when Benzema can't play then indirectly their performance drops

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April 01, 2022, 06:40:46 PM
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I'm banking on Chelsea to win both games.
That is quite a bold prediction mate, especially when the team in question elimimated PSG, are you a Chelsea fan Wink? It is definitely possibe that Chelsea wins both legs, it is also possible Madrid wins both legs, it is that sort of game, two big teams, two European giants, though Madrid is obviously the 'bigger giant', two super powerhouses, i can go on and on, but my point is just that i find it very difficult to confidently predict games of this magnitude as it can go either way cause the two teams are somewhat evenly matched. I would hope Madrid wins though, cause i do not like Chelsea Wink.

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April 01, 2022, 08:17:00 PM
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Therefore, the match Chelsea vs Real Madrid which will be played on April 7 is still difficult to predict who will make it through and this match will prove to be a midfield for both teams.
Let's just say Real Madrid will win at home like they beat PSG but they will lose in England. Chelsea should have used the first leg to win because they were playing at home, but the second leg will be a win for Real Madrid because I don't think there's anything wrong with hoping the same scenario will be repeated in the quarter-finals involving Chelsea and Real Madrid.

Chelsea's quality is not the same as PSG's because I think Chelsea is better than them if the mentality of the team is the reference. Chelsea can beat Real Madrid and vice versa can also happen. Real Madrid are expected to qualify but it really depends on the chances they have during the match.
I don't get why its so hard for people to see that this Chelsea's side is more mentally stable and stronger than this present Real Madrid team. Yes, Real Madrid is a bigger team with many trophies and experience than Chelsea but at moment, Chelsea is the best team in the world and they proven that even more with the way they have been able to keep winning games amidst the storm and crisis rocking the club. I sincerely think they have what it takes to upset Real  Madrid again.
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April 01, 2022, 08:44:12 PM
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Quarterfinal first leg matches begin. The Benfica-Liverpool match will be challenging and with plenty of goals.  Benfica will win. My favorite is City, in City-A.Madrid match. I am waiting for a surprise in the Villarreal-B.Munih match. Villarreal will be the winning team. Chelsea football club which is having a hard time will win if they concentrate on the Madrid match.

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April 01, 2022, 09:04:18 PM
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Vinicius is the second highest scorer in La Liga and Real Madrid have a large pool of players who can score a goal. But in general, Chelsea in the EPL has similar statistics to Real in La Liga - Chelsea has +38 in goals, and Real has + 34. Real has a 69% percentage of games won, and Chelsea has 60% - here Real have a serious advantage, but it is more likely indicates a lower average level of teams compared to the EPL. In general, I think it will be a fight of approximately equal opponents.
It's really balanced indeed.
apart from the results of the EPL and La Liga, look at their performance in the UCL and even their goal ratio is almost the same.
During the Group Stage Chelsea scored 13 goals there and Madrid scored 14 goals. in the Round of 16 Chelsea scored 4 goals from 2 legs and Madrid created 3 goals there.
with this they have scored 17 goals from the UCL competition this season and it is really worth waiting for their game to be like now

The results of the group stage for the top teams do not matter - everyone knows which two teams will advance from the group in most cases. Comparing the playoffs of Real and Chelsea is also incorrect - Chelsea had the easiest Lille, and Real had the hardest PSG. Therefore, I took the national championships where a long distance has already been covered and the statistics are more or less adequate.

right, my mistake for not comparing their opponents in the play offs Cheesy But is it good enough to compare with the domestic league, because there are some clubs that focus more on the UCL but there are also those who focus on the league they are capable of in the league domestic respectively.
even so, it's still worth seeing and indeed in this case it doesn't look like Madrid are too lucky because they always face tough opponents

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Although Man City is still playing in three competitions, this will not distract Man City's focus when playing in the Champions League. Man City are an experienced team, so they already know how to keep their main players fit for many competitions. So I think the chances of Atletico beating Man City are very slim. there is even a possibility that Man City will win against Atletico easily. Although I also know Atletico are not a weak team, but after all the quality of Man City players is very far when compared to Atletico. So it is very difficult to expect any surprises that Atletico will show when facing Man City.
I do believe that league is a very important title for them, probably the most important one even though they are still in UCL, because premier league pays so much that it is nearly as much as UCL and it is their national one. FA cup however is not really that important, I mean it would be good to have, but it is not like a must at all, Liverpool and Klopp known to not even play their best players there.

So, the only titles City should care about is premier league and UCL, which will be hard to achieve. UCL is very ruthless, we have seen what happened to PSG, they were a great team and 5 minutes of being bad caused them to get eliminated. Which is why they need to focus on that a lot more. League could have recovery, UCL won't have that.
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Quarterfinal first leg matches begin. The Benfica-Liverpool match will be challenging and with plenty of goals.  Benfica will win. My favorite is City, in City-A.Madrid match. I am waiting for a surprise in the Villarreal-B.Munih match. Villarreal will be the winning team. Chelsea football club which is having a hard time will win if they concentrate on the Madrid match.
The two top premier league clubs will not want to miss their chance of moving to the next stage of the competition. Benfica might  seem as a threat to liverpool but i see Liverpool winning with a slim aggregate difference. Mancity is the favorite in their game against Athletico. We saw how Athletico struggled to beat Manchester united even when united isn't on form. The English league has it's unique style and Athletico might not match up to City

For Chelsea's match against Real Madrid the first leg performance will decide what should be expected. It might be look like an equal chance for both team but for me Madrid have higher chance in the game.
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Only three days left to have a start in the quarter final games. And yeah, I also think that we might see a surprise in the Villarreal - Bayern Munich game. Maybe it wouldn't be a win but it is likely to see a draw at the end. When we think that Salzburg were nearly defeating Bayern Munich home, we can expect Villarreal to do better too. Villarreal are a way more solid team than Salzburg in the end. On the other hand, Bayern Munich experienced this before and they would prepare themselves better I assume.

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Only three days left to have a start in the quarter final games. And yeah, I also think that we might see a surprise in the Villarreal - Bayern Munich game. Maybe it wouldn't be a win but it is likely to see a draw at the end. When we think that Salzburg were nearly defeating Bayern Munich home, we can expect Villarreal to do better too. Villarreal are a way more solid team than Salzburg in the end. On the other hand, Bayern Munich experienced this before and they would prepare themselves better I assume.

I dont think there will be a surprise at all i think Bayern Munich will win both matches against Villereal.  I think they learned their lesson against Salzburg to not go easy against a weaker team so they might even finish everything in their away game against Villereal

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April 01, 2022, 09:36:34 PM
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Quarterfinal first leg matches begin. The Benfica-Liverpool match will be challenging and with plenty of goals.  Benfica will win. My favorite is City, in City-A.Madrid match. I am waiting for a surprise in the Villarreal-B.Munih match. Villarreal will be the winning team. Chelsea football club which is having a hard time will win if they concentrate on the Madrid match.
The two top premier league clubs will not want to miss their chance of moving to the next stage of the competition. Benfica might  seem as a threat to liverpool but i see Liverpool winning with a slim aggregate difference. Mancity is the favorite in their game against Athletico. We saw how Athletico struggled to beat Manchester united even when united isn't on form. The English league has it's unique style and Athletico might not match up to City

For Chelsea's match against Real Madrid the first leg performance will decide what should be expected. It might be look like an equal chance for both team but for me Madrid has a higher chance in the game.
It will become less fun and easier if the one topping the premiere league table to become the 1st runner up, if any club apart from either Chelsea, Liverpool or man city the tournament will be less fun and I believe in the next coming round will be a knock out stage.

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April 01, 2022, 09:55:32 PM
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As long as Bayern Munich play focusedly, I don't expect them to lose against Villarreal in the first leg. But it would be for the benefit of Bayern Munich not to let Villarreal score first. Because Villarreal are a very good defense team now. And if they score first, they would show their best performance in defense to secure a win. But even if Bayern Munich lose in the first leg, I still think that they will destroy Villarreal in Allianz Arena. It wouldn't be like the Salzburg game though but it'd be a solid win still.

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It is unlikely that Chelsea will repeat their past performances and beat Real Madrid again. Madrid experienced team. Chelsea's performance is not as strong this season as we saw in the previous season. So this match will definitely be competitive. However, the chances of Chelsea winning the home match seem to be high. But I have my doubts about whether Chelsea can win at Bernabeu.
We only have to wait a few more days to watch the first leg of the quarter finals, and while this is a revenge game for Real Madrid I think the Chelsea is playing so well lately they will be able to get a win since they are playing at home during the next game, the question to me is if they can obtain an advantage so big to the point it becomes decisive against Real Madrid? Because if they cannot do it then we know what Benzema and the rest of the Real Madrid can do in order to make an impressive comeback in a matter of minutes.
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April 01, 2022, 10:26:47 PM
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Manchester city are on fire when it comes to the champions league. They dominated each of their games, they are on streaking wins because city boss Pep won't allow any team to compete with him. Athletico madrid on the other hand are also good interms of defensive football. They would target a draw in the first leg of the game. That's what Diego Simeon is good at, and he is one the oldest coach in Athletico madrid currently. The game is really going to be a tough one. Definitely it's going to be survival for the fittest. I hope City wins the game because they deserve this trophy more than any team present in the quarter finals. They have been to final last season but lost to Chelsea. This season won't be the same as last season. Alot of unimaginable things are going to happen.
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April 01, 2022, 10:34:01 PM
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Chelsea outplayed them in both legs of the Champions League last season, and little has changed in both teams. Real Madrid's weakness has been their midfielders when it comes to tracking back, as Modric and Kloss are both aging and find it difficult to perform well when playing against younger midfielders, which was Chelsea's edge over them last season, I'm banking on Chelsea to win both games.
Do you think Chelsea midfielders are stronger than Real Madrid midfielders this season? Although the last season, Real Madrid midfielders are defeated by Chelsea midfielders, it doesn't mean Chelsea midfielders' performance is better than Real Madrid midfielders this season. I still believe that Real Madrid midfielders have learned many things from their lose in the last season. So, it probably won't happen again this season. Young or old players sometimes don't give a significant influence in the match.

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Although Man City is still playing in three competitions, this will not distract Man City's focus when playing in the Champions League. Man City are an experienced team, so they already know how to keep their main players fit for many competitions. So I think the chances of Atletico beating Man City are very slim. there is even a possibility that Man City will win against Atletico easily. Although I also know Atletico are not a weak team, but after all the quality of Man City players is very far when compared to Atletico. So it is very difficult to expect any surprises that Atletico will show when facing Man City.
I do believe that league is a very important title for them, probably the most important one even though they are still in UCL, because premier league pays so much that it is nearly as much as UCL and it is their national one. FA cup however is not really that important, I mean it would be good to have, but it is not like a must at all, Liverpool and Klopp known to not even play their best players there.

So, the only titles City should care about is premier league and UCL, which will be hard to achieve. UCL is very ruthless, we have seen what happened to PSG, they were a great team and 5 minutes of being bad caused them to get eliminated. Which is why they need to focus on that a lot more. League could have recovery, UCL won't have that.

I agree that both Man City and Liverpool would consider the FA Cup to be not a top priority, they are prouder to win the EPL trophy and 
the Champions League trophy. Therefore, Guardiola as the coach of Man City must plan well, so that Man City can win the EPL trophy
and the Champions League trophy. But when compared to the EPL trophy and the Champions League trophy, it seems that Guardiola will prioritize
the Champions League trophy. Because so far Man City have never won the Champions League trophy, Man City's best achievement
in the Champions League competition only managed to become runner-up in the 2020/2021 season.

Therefore Man City will make sure they win the game against Atletico, because like you said in the EPL there is time to recover if they lose,
because there are still many matches to play. Whereas in the Champions League competition there are only two legs as a determination to
qualify for the next round, and Man City must succeed in achieving positive results in those two legs when they face Atletico. So Man City will focus
more on beating Atletico, therefore it will be very difficult for Atletico to beat Man City who are really focused on the Champions League.

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It is unlikely that Chelsea will repeat their past performances and beat Real Madrid again. Madrid experienced team. Chelsea's performance is not as strong this season as we saw in the previous season. So this match will definitely be competitive. However, the chances of Chelsea winning the home match seem to be high. But I have my doubts about whether Chelsea can win at Bernabeu.
We only have to wait a few more days to watch the first leg of the quarter finals, and while this is a revenge game for Real Madrid I think the Chelsea is playing so well lately they will be able to get a win since they are playing at home during the next game, the question to me is if they can obtain an advantage so big to the point it becomes decisive against Real Madrid? Because if they cannot do it then we know what Benzema and the rest of the Real Madrid can do in order to make an impressive comeback in a matter of minutes.
I am not sure that Real Madrid can also constantly make heroic comebacks on order, so I still think that the club should not bring the situation to such a state Wink For me personally, at this point in time, before the first match is held, both Chelsea and Real Madrid have the same chances of success following the results of two matches. In any case, despite the cancellation of the away goal advantage rule, there is still a home field factor, and it is desirable for Chelsea to make some margin of safety before the return match and try to win, because Real Madrid at their home stadium with the crazy support of their fans will in any case play to win and is really capable of transformation.
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I am not sure that Real Madrid can also constantly make heroic comebacks on order, so I still think that the club should not bring the situation to such a state Wink For me personally, at this point in time, before the first match is held, both Chelsea and Real Madrid have the same chances of success following the results of two matches. In any case, despite the cancellation of the away goal advantage rule, there is still a home field factor, and it is desirable for Chelsea to make some margin of safety before the return match and try to win, because Real Madrid at their home stadium with the crazy support of their fans will in any case play to win and is really capable of transformation.
the most important thing now for Chelsea is to keep winning. The first leg playing at home will certainly be more energy for Chelsea. although it was difficult Chelsea had to get the winning goal. and I hope in the second leg they don't play defensively to stem Real Madrid. instead of aiming for a draw.
Madrid with Benzema's recovery can certainly damage Chelsea's defense and midfield dominance. they have to be careful.
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