Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[AB de Royse777]

New Zealand pulling themselves from the T20 disaster and dominating India and that is what we are seeing.

Now I see India is in the same position as New Zealand was after the T20 series. It's a shame for Indian cricket. I wonder what excuses the board and management have now. They used to have an excuse of experiment when they lose matches. Are they doing the same?

Let's see what happens in the 2nd Test.

Majority of fans were sleeping when India lost but this sums up the feeling. 

I know it's heartbreaking for a nation where Cricket is as big as religion.

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[JSRAW]

I know it's heartbreaking for a nation where Cricket is as big as religion.

Not heartbreaking but disappointed because this team has capability of putting up fight or winning the test match in SENA countries. I was afraid that India is going to lose if they lose the toss and it happened but i was not expecting this kind of bad performances from the Team as they have many match winning players, Win-lose is part of the game, you win some you lose some so its completely fine but losing in such manner looks bad for no 1 team. Now, how we are supposed to troll English team?  hiding face lol 

let's hope they bounce back and perform in the next game, if not winning then at-least put some great fight. that's what test cricket is all about.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Today I woke up at 6am, hoping to watch a few overs of play before departing for office. But by the time I switched on the television, match was over. It was difficult to believe. They were at 144/4 yesterday. During the first session of play today, they added 47 runs in 16 overs, losing 6 of their remaining wickets. For me, it was difficult to digest at first..

[Alaric05]

My goodness!
I did not follow the Test match between NZ and India but now surprised to see the result. India lost by 10 wickets! LOL

Since you did not follow the match you are surprised, i was thinking how fast New Zealand could win the match .

What are we seeing here?
After trashing New Zealand in the T20 series they somehow lost their way? Bad performance in ODI series and now bad start in the Test series too? I would like to know how the Indian locals are feeling about it?

New Zealand pulling themselves from the T20 disaster and dominating India and that is what we are seeing.

Seriously new Zealand is in total revenge mode, I never thought that India is going to lose so badly.

[7788bitcoin]

Okay Rahul name popping so.. We should not forget that management already tried him as test opener in South Africa, England and Australia and he was part of the team for 2 long years. he failed miserably there except one occasion where he made a hundred (England) in losing cause after 8 inning or so. this 100 saved him despite it was not very important inning in the match situation. then his bad form continue in Australia that's where Mayank got the Test cap and Rahul got kicked.

You have to take into consideration about the form of a player, KL Rahul was in good in this tour and they should retain players who are in good form rather than experimenting too much even when their regular opener Rohit Sharma is injured, even in the limited overs KL Rahul did not have a designated position and he was a floater and still scoring runs.
The Indian bowlers were rusty except Ishant Sharma and the series depends upon how the Indian batsman could rebound from this loss and start scoring some runs and if that happens then they have the bowlers to defend the score.

[AB de Royse777]

let's hope they bounce back and perform in the next game, if not winning then at-least put some great fight. that's what test cricket is all about.

The way the Indian team is moving after the T20 series, I think I will side for NZ with confidence now. Can we have a pool for it? :-D
I will create one tomorrow.

Today I woke up at 6am, hoping to watch a few overs of play before departing for office. But by the time I switched on the television, match was over. It was difficult to believe. They were at 144/4 yesterday. During the first session of play today, they added 47 runs in 16 overs, losing 6 of their remaining wickets. For me, it was difficult to digest at first..

That's disaster. Good thing for me is that I did not follow the match, not even the scores. I was just exploring cricinfo today and saw this.

[JSRAW]

Okay Rahul name popping so.. We should not forget that management already tried him as test opener in South Africa, England and Australia and he was part of the team for 2 long years. he failed miserably there except one occasion where he made a hundred (England) in losing cause after 8 inning or so. this 100 saved him despite it was not very important inning in the match situation. then his bad form continue in Australia that's where Mayank got the Test cap and Rahul got kicked.

You have to take into consideration about the form of a player, KL Rahul was in good in this tour and they should retain players who are in good form rather than experimenting too much even when their regular opener Rohit Sharma is injured, even in the limited overs KL Rahul did not have a designated position and he was a floater and still scoring runs.

Fair enough, i agree with this argument that they should retain inform players. but that's the same formula which team management followed last time in case of KL Rahul > He scored runs in IPL > got promotion in ODI and T-20 Team as back up opener> scored century against Ireland in T-20 and voila Test spot got fixed in England's tour. So question is, they should repeat same mistake again or they should bet on any new batsman? They opted for new player Prithvi this time because of simple reason, IPL and T-20 format is not the criteria to select anyone in the Test format.

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Can we have a pool for it? :-D
I will create one tomorrow.
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Yeah, go for it and Australia vs South Africa T-20 series decider game is coming as well (26th)

[SaShiRaJaVu]

Now I see India is in the same position as New Zealand was after the T20 series. It's a shame for Indian cricket. I wonder what excuses the board and management have now. They used to have an excuse of experiment when they lose matches. Are they doing the same?
Let's see what happens in the 2nd Test.

May be India is focused on the T20 tournaments considering the World Cup is coming up and the rest of the formats they are experimenting and it is not that easy to face New Zealand in their turf and New Zealand dominated them in the first Test, the batsman has to play well against the New Zealand bowlers as they were not able to put up a battle against the pacers.

[BitSat19]

Now I see India is in the same position as New Zealand was after the T20 series. It's a shame for Indian cricket. I wonder what excuses the board and management have now. They used to have an excuse of experiment when they lose matches. Are they doing the same?
Let's see what happens in the 2nd Test.

May be India is focused on the T20 tournaments considering the World Cup is coming up and the rest of the formats they are experimenting and it is not that easy to face New Zealand in their turf and New Zealand dominated them in the first Test, the batsman has to play well against the New Zealand bowlers as they were not able to put up a battle against the pacers.

Now just three days and second test match is going to played at Christchurch they need to play attacking cricket because now they have only two choices lost or draw series so its very tricky situation because if New Zealand will win then surely they are coming at third in test ranking ahead of England and India going to lost few points as well.

[onrise]

Zimbabwe are losing quick wickets and have already lost 5 for a score of just 114 runs . They need to stand in the pitch and play as long as possible as this will give the boost to batsman as well for coming matches . They are losing to Bangladesh this badly and if they play to the likes of NZ, OZ then they stand nowhere considering this test match . Zimbabwe trail by another 183 runs and should try to reduce or reach as closer to this target and make Bangladesh bat again in 4th innings.

[erikalui]

I am surprised why KL Rahul is not in the team as he is the inform batsman and they had experience in Rahane and Pujara but they could make an impact.

Rahul and Iyer together couldn't help the team in ODI too so I wouldn't be sure that him being in the team also would make any difference. When Virat himself was in form and lost back-to-back matches, can't expect it from other players. Rahane and Pujara can't manage to get even 50 runs now. They performed better in warmup matches.

would like to know how the Indian locals are feeling about it?

Indians are trolling Virat for his statements  

*India wins*

Kohli : Every game is important for us.

* India loses*

Kohli : ODIs are not relevant. Focusing on t20.

*India wins*

"Toss isn't important, we should play good cricket "

*India loses*

Toss was Very important.

Captain clueless for you.
@imVkohli
. #NZvIND

All the cricket fans are now focused on Trump's visit to India rather the test match as the captain himself is confused and doesn't take this loss seriously.

[Alaric05]

No doubt Tim southee's match figures 4/49 and 5/61 has really washed Indian team who is no 1 in ICC ranking. It's first defeat of Indian team in ICC world test championship hope the men in blue will learn from this loss and come back soon coz they don't want to loose ICC test world championship as they have all ICC trophies...

[7788bitcoin]

Fair enough, i agree with this argument that they should retain inform players. but that's the same formula which team management followed last time in case of KL Rahul > He scored runs in IPL > got promotion in ODI and T-20 Team as back up opener> scored century against Ireland in T-20 and voila Test spot got fixed in England's tour. So question is, they should repeat same mistake again or they should bet on any new batsman? They opted for new player Prithvi this time because of simple reason, IPL and T-20 format is not the criteria to select anyone in the Test format.

The reason i see is that KL Rahul is a good batsman with a really defense which is really important in the Test format as there are not much rules that are favoring the batsman and it will Test the skill of the batsman including his patience and from what i have seen from his game KL Rahul has a good defense as well as offense, Prithvi Shaw is a future prospect but i have not seen him play, form of a player is all about confidence and once you have that then you can play any format.

Indians are trolling Virat for his statements  

IPL is the biggest test for him as he never lead his team well even with super stars and my bet is that Dhoni will make a statement by winning the tournament once again so that there will be an outcry to put him in the T20 World Cup team.

[Haunebu]

Its funny seeing Indian fans trolling Virat when they lost after a long time, but the same people went gaga when he was scoring centuries like it was nothing. Hypocrites! I am 100% with him(Ups or downs) and I am confident he and the team will bounce back soon.

Okay Rahul name popping so.. We should not forget that management already tried him as test opener in South Africa, England and Australia and he was part of the team for 2 long years. he failed miserably there except one occasion where he made a hundred (England) in losing cause after 8 inning or so. this 100 saved him despite it was not very important inning in the match situation. then his bad form continue in Australia that's where Mayank got the Test cap and Rahul got kicked.

It is true that he hasn't performed consistently in the past, but I wanted him in the team due to his current form which is spectacular. Current form should be the primary criteria for selection which is why he is ahead when compared to others in that department regardless of the format.

[AB de Royse777]

Indians are trolling Virat for his statements  

*India wins*

Kohli : Every game is important for us.

* India loses*

Kohli : ODIs are not relevant. Focusing on t20.

*India wins*

"Toss isn't important, we should play good cricket "

*India loses*

Toss was Very important.

Captain clueless for you.
@imVkohli
. #NZvIND

Obviously Jerry is the smartest one and he knows how to provoke Tom. Tom is just a dumb cat and in this case Kohli is a perfect match for him :-D

I mean seriously, the Indian team needs to find out the gaps they need to fill-up to become a better team. I mean come on, only few weeks ago we were saying India team is a team whose B team is enough to beat the top team in world cricket and after few weeks we are here LOL

Its funny seeing Indian fans trolling Virat when they lost after a long time, but the same people went gaga when he was scoring centuries like it was nothing. Hypocrites! I am 100% with him(Ups or downs) and I am confident he and the team will bounce back soon.

Hope they do in the 2nd Test.

[FIFA worldcup]

I mean seriously, the Indian team needs to find out the gaps they need to fill-up to become a better team. I mean come on, only few weeks ago we were saying India team is a team whose B team is enough to beat the top team in world cricket and after few weeks we are here LOL

I think its been unfair to kholi and their team to criticize them so much after the 1st Test loss. No matter how strong a team is that they will lose few matches in between and this was those test which India lost.
They have such a good record of wining test recently and a single loss shouldn't be trolled that much.

[AB de Royse777]

I think its been unfair to kholi and their team to criticize them so much after the 1st Test loss. No matter how strong a team is that they will lose few matches in between and this was those test which India lost.

I would not care much if this was the only lose. But see back and you will see they have lost all the matches in the ODI series too and this last Test was just the continuation of the downfall.

They have such a good record of wining test recently and a single loss shouldn't be trolled that much.

When expectation does not meet the reality then we see these kind of situations. Expectation from Kohli and team is really high so anything goes a little wrong backfires then hard.

[pakhitheboss]

I think its been unfair to kholi and their team to criticize them so much after the 1st Test loss. No matter how strong a team is that they will lose few matches in between and this was those test which India lost.

I would not care much if this was the only lose. But see back and you will see they have lost all the matches in the ODI series too and this last Test was just the continuation of the downfall.

They have such a good record of wining test recently and a single loss shouldn't be trolled that much.

When expectation does not meet the reality then we see these kind of situations. Expectation from Kohli and team is really high so anything goes a little wrong backfires then hard.

I hope this losing streak does not strech to the Worldcup. The way Indian team is playing shows how demotivated and hopeless they have become. Niether the captain nor the team shows any urge to fight back or win.

I hope for the next test match they gear up and perform to their full potential.

[JSRAW]

The reason i see is that KL Rahul is a good batsman with a really defense which is really important in the Test format as there are not much rules that are favoring the batsman and it will Test the skill of the batsman including his patience and from what i have seen from his game KL Rahul has a good defense as well as offense, Prithvi Shaw is a future prospect but i have not seen him play, form of a player is all about confidence and once you have that then you can play any format.

It is true that he hasn't performed consistently in the past, but I wanted him in the team due to his current form which is spectacular. Current form should be the primary criteria for selection which is why he is ahead when compared to others in that department regardless of the format.

In recent time there is no such thing "Defense" in T-20 cricket. In ODI yes "Defense" is still relevant but how many times we get to see seam-swing wicket in modern cricket, may be once in a while and how many slips we see in limited cricket? only 1 or 2 and that for only 4-5 overs.

Test format is completely different beast. Rahul might become good bet for India in Sub-continent type wickets but SENA countries are tough nut to crack for majority of batsmen. He already got enough chances to prove but failed, may be team management give him another go in the next season, only if he performs in longer format for Domestic team/India A . I agree on pretty much everything except on one thing " Getting into Test Team because you have good form in T-20 as opener? its NO_GO_ZONE IMO"

I am taking this argument as Rahul_The_Opener. but if go by hypothetical situation where he can refine his keeping for 5 day cricket and bats in middle-order or may be Top-order then yes he should be first choice for Wicket-keeper batsman.

[UmerIdrees]

When expectation does not meet the reality then we see these kind of situations. Expectation from Kohli and team is really high so anything goes a little wrong backfires then hard.

So if expectation does not meet the reality in cricket , it is termed as Match fixing.

India lost 3 ODIs consecutively to lose the series  and if they lost the 2nd test also, i think there would be match fixing in some way or the other.