Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[ene1980]

Not expected at all. I guess England is a way better team than West Indies. I didn't watch the match though; kept some update only. Lucky that I was busy with gambling on soccer onlym Otherwise, I would have lost definitely.

It is obvious England are a much better team but the main players was taking an extended break and West Indies was able to capitalize on the situation and win the first match which no one really expected, the major difference in this match was the way in which both captains played and the team they selected and crucial catch Ben Stokes missed in slips which was a straight forward catch off Blackwood, literally the dropped the match.

[vella85]

I'm very happy right now as I won my bet on the WI winning the first test match which I posted last week before the match started. I really thought that the match was even due to the fact that either team hasn't played in a while so I thought it was even as there was no recent form to go off. Also the players need to get used to playing again and find form which is why I also thought that either team could win and so I went with the value bet. Lets also not forget that the WI have played well against England recently. Anyway this now sets up the series to see if England can fight back and win the second test.

[teosanru]

Not expected at all. I guess England is a way better team than West Indies. I didn't watch the match though; kept some update only. Lucky that I was busy with gambling on soccer onlym Otherwise, I would have lost definitely.

It is obvious England are a much better team but the main players was taking an extended break and West Indies was able to capitalize on the situation and win the first match which no one really expected, the major difference in this match was the way in which both captains played and the team they selected and crucial catch Ben Stokes missed in slips which was a straight forward catch off Blackwood, literally the dropped the match.

I think england was still with the best bowling lineup yes their batting lineup looked a bit novice but you have to praise west Indies as to how good they batted. Even west indies team Isn't a much experienced team so all on all i think west indies did play a pretty nice game. The way holder bowled is magnificent and how blackwood Batted in pressure conditions it was great too.

[JSRAW]

Not expected at all. I guess England is a way better team than West Indies. I didn't watch the match though; kept some update only. Lucky that I was busy with gambling on soccer onlym Otherwise, I would have lost definitely.

It is obvious England are a much better team but the main players was taking an extended break and West Indies was able to capitalize on the situation and win the first match which no one really expected, the major difference in this match was the way in which both captains played and the team they selected and crucial catch Ben Stokes missed in slips which was a straight forward catch off Blackwood, literally the dropped the match.

I think england was still with the best bowling lineup yes their batting lineup looked a bit novice but you have to praise west Indies as to how good they batted. Even west indies team Isn't a much experienced team so all on all i think west indies did play a pretty nice game. The way holder bowled is magnificent and how blackwood Batted in pressure conditions it was great too.

Looking at now, it seems England was bit over confident, that's a only reason they left Broad out. Sloppy fielding made it worse and didn't helped their cause. Blackwood batted well but English fielder gave him 2 chances by dropping his catch early on his inning (5, 20) result he and Roston Chase came up with 4th wicket partnership.

Broad and Joe root will join the playing XI in the next match. so we can hope 1-1 and then series decider on 3rd test match.

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[Haunebu]

Looking at now, it seems England was bit over confident, that's a only reason they left Broad out. Sloppy fielding made it worse and didn't helped their cause. Blackwood batted well but English fielder gave him 2 chances by dropping his catch early on his inning (5, 20) result he and Roston Chase came up with 4th wicket partnership.

Those chances were game changing at the end. I am very happy that West Indies won though after so many twists and turns. I am rooting for them to win the next test in a similar fashion.

Broad and Joe root will join the playing XI in the next match. so we can hope 1-1 and then series decider on 3rd test match.

I don't really feel that these two will make a huge difference currently since they have been out of form in recent times. They will definitely help though. I was surprised to see Anderson not perform well in the 2nd innings.

[pakhitheboss]

Not expected at all. I guess England is a way better team than West Indies. I didn't watch the match though; kept some update only. Lucky that I was busy with gambling on soccer onlym Otherwise, I would have lost definitely.

It is obvious England are a much better team but the main players was taking an extended break and West Indies was able to capitalize on the situation and win the first match which no one really expected, the major difference in this match was the way in which both captains played and the team they selected and crucial catch Ben Stokes missed in slips which was a straight forward catch off Blackwood, literally the dropped the match.

I think england was still with the best bowling lineup yes their batting lineup looked a bit novice but you have to praise west Indies as to how good they batted. Even west indies team Isn't a much experienced team so all on all i think west indies did play a pretty nice game. The way holder bowled is magnificent and how blackwood Batted in pressure conditions it was great too.

Looking at now, it seems England was bit over confident, that's a only reason they left Broad out. Sloppy fielding made it worse and didn't helped their cause. Blackwood batted well but English fielder gave him 2 chances by dropping his catch early on his inning (5, 20) result he and Roston Chase came up with 4th wicket partnership.

Broad and Joe root will join the playing XI in the next match. so we can hope 1-1 and then series decider on 3rd test match.

The way West Indies played the first match shows that they have come prepared. I am not sure whether these two players will give advantage in the next test but the way they played the first test they should now buckle up for the second test.

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[Vishnu.Reang]

Looking at now, it seems England was bit over confident, that's a only reason they left Broad out. Sloppy fielding made it worse and didn't helped their cause. Blackwood batted well but English fielder gave him 2 chances by dropping his catch early on his inning (5, 20) result he and Roston Chase came up with 4th wicket partnership.

Broad and Joe root will join the playing XI in the next match. so we can hope 1-1 and then series decider on 3rd test match.

They wanted to give a slot to Mark Wood in the playing XI and that's probably the reason why they left out Broad. That was a real bad decision, with Wood taking just two wicket after conceding 110 runs. He was the weakest link in the bowling attack, and probably the reason why England failed to bowl out West Indies during the fourth innings. Hopefully they will be in better shape once Broad is back in to the playing XI.

[JSRAW]

Broad and Joe root will join the playing XI in the next match. so we can hope 1-1 and then series decider on 3rd test match.

I don't really feel that these two will make a huge difference currently since they have been out of form in recent times. They will definitely help though. I was surprised to see Anderson not perform well in the 2nd innings.

Well Broad-Anderson is tested and deadly combination in the English condition and no matter how bad form is Joe Root facing (Which he's not) he always produce 40+ runs in each inning, its another discussion that he gets out after that most of the time.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Broad and Joe root will join the playing XI in the next match. so we can hope 1-1 and then series decider on 3rd test match.

I don't really feel that these two will make a huge difference currently since they have been out of form in recent times. They will definitely help though. I was surprised to see Anderson not perform well in the 2nd innings.

Well Broad-Anderson is tested and deadly combination in the English condition and no matter how bad form is Joe Root facing (Which he's not) he always produce 40+ runs in each inning, its another discussion that he gets out after that most of the time.

Agreed. Both Broad and Anderson have remained mostly outside the media limelight, despite their achievements. Both these players have a combined 1,100 or so test wickets to their name. Broad is remembered for his horrendous over against Yuvraj Singh. Very few people talk about the 7/72 he had against the West Indies in 2012 (and that too returning from an injury). And regarding Joe Root, there is no doubt that he is one of the best test batsmen currently out there.

[teosanru]

Not expected at all. I guess England is a way better team than West Indies. I didn't watch the match though; kept some update only. Lucky that I was busy with gambling on soccer onlym Otherwise, I would have lost definitely.

It is obvious England are a much better team but the main players was taking an extended break and West Indies was able to capitalize on the situation and win the first match which no one really expected, the major difference in this match was the way in which both captains played and the team they selected and crucial catch Ben Stokes missed in slips which was a straight forward catch off Blackwood, literally the dropped the match.

I think england was still with the best bowling lineup yes their batting lineup looked a bit novice but you have to praise west Indies as to how good they batted. Even west indies team Isn't a much experienced team so all on all i think west indies did play a pretty nice game. The way holder bowled is magnificent and how blackwood Batted in pressure conditions it was great too.

Looking at now, it seems England was bit over confident, that's a only reason they left Broad out. Sloppy fielding made it worse and didn't helped their cause. Blackwood batted well but English fielder gave him 2 chances by dropping his catch early on his inning (5, 20) result he and Roston Chase came up with 4th wicket partnership.

Broad and Joe root will join the playing XI in the next match. so we can hope 1-1 and then series decider on 3rd test match.

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I still feel that it won't be pretty easy to tackle west Indies now. They now are a bit more confident and hopeful that they can at least get some winning chances from this series. Even with Joe and Broad back. I feel England's batting still would be pretty dependent of Joe Root. Still yes match would be much more interesting to see. But yes Anderson did show off by saying that leaving out Broad shows strength of England bowling and we pretty much saw what happened to it. LOL

Broad and Joe root will join the playing XI in the next match. so we can hope 1-1 and then series decider on 3rd test match.

I don't really feel that these two will make a huge difference currently since they have been out of form in recent times. They will definitely help though. I was surprised to see Anderson not perform well in the 2nd innings.

Well Broad-Anderson is tested and deadly combination in the English condition and no matter how bad form is Joe Root facing (Which he's not) he always produce 40+ runs in each inning, its another discussion that he gets out after that most of the time.

Agreed. Both Broad and Anderson have remained mostly outside the media limelight, despite their achievements. Both these players have a combined 1,100 or so test wickets to their name. Broad is remembered for his horrendous over against Yuvraj Singh. Very few people talk about the 7/72 he had against the West Indies in 2012 (and that too returning from an injury). And regarding Joe Root, there is no doubt that he is one of the best test batsmen currently out there.

Broad is one of the finest bowlers in the World. He was just too unlucky to have been facing Yuvraj Singh that day.

[Indymoney]

Broad and Joe root will join the playing XI in the next match. so we can hope 1-1 and then series decider on 3rd test match.

I don't really feel that these two will make a huge difference currently since they have been out of form in recent times. They will definitely help though. I was surprised to see Anderson not perform well in the 2nd innings.

Well Broad-Anderson is tested and deadly combination in the English condition and no matter how bad form is Joe Root facing (Which he's not) he always produce 40+ runs in each inning, its another discussion that he gets out after that most of the time.

Agreed. Both Broad and Anderson have remained mostly outside the media limelight, despite their achievements. Both these players have a combined 1,100 or so test wickets to their name. Broad is remembered for his horrendous over against Yuvraj Singh. Very few people talk about the 7/72 he had against the West Indies in 2012 (and that too returning from an injury). And regarding Joe Root, there is no doubt that he is one of the best test batsmen currently out there.

One thing is sure now its not easy for England to stand firm against West Indies as they already full of confidence and now they will do some more good for pride and England batting line up is not good even Root alone cannot give them something special now England need to do some hard work for win and level this series new look West Indies ic capable to give some hard time and take lead.

[Haunebu]

Well Broad-Anderson is tested and deadly combination in the English condition and no matter how bad form is Joe Root facing (Which he's not) he always produce 40+ runs in each inning, its another discussion that he gets out after that most of the time.

The English team intentionally left out Broad since they wanted to give more opportunities to new bowlers like Archer etc and West Indies is not great in tests usually which is why his omission completely makes sense.

I don't think they will include Broad just because they lost the 1st test. Also, Root is another intentional omission for the same reasons. They never expected West Indies to win so convincingly in the 1st test itself. I am not expecting any major changes in the squad.

[Indymoney]

Well Broad-Anderson is tested and deadly combination in the English condition and no matter how bad form is Joe Root facing (Which he's not) he always produce 40+ runs in each inning, its another discussion that he gets out after that most of the time.

The English team intentionally left out Broad since they wanted to give more opportunities to new bowlers like Archer etc and West Indies is not great in tests usually which is why his omission completely makes sense.

I don't think they will include Broad just because they lost the 1st test. Also, Root is another intentional omission for the same reasons. They never expected West Indies to win so convincingly in the 1st test itself. I am not expecting any major changes in the squad.

About Broad your comments are ok but Root was not intentional omission as his wife was expecting so he is out now he is coming back and going to lead England and on thing more surely they was not expecting fight like this from West Indies as they already have no two best batsmen in squad so this is really best reply from this young West Indies side.

[JSRAW]

Broad is remembered for his horrendous over against Yuvraj Singh. 

Ah.. good ol'days..

Well Broad-Anderson is tested and deadly combination in the English condition and no matter how bad form is Joe Root facing (Which he's not) he always produce 40+ runs in each inning, its another discussion that he gets out after that most of the time.

The English team intentionally left out Broad since they wanted to give more opportunities to new bowlers like Archer etc and West Indies is not great in tests usually which is why his omission completely makes sense.

I don't think they will include Broad just because they lost the 1st test. Also, Root is another intentional omission for the same reasons. They never expected West Indies to win so convincingly in the 1st test itself. I am not expecting any major changes in the squad.

And i am sure they are regretting this decision. Imagine England playing Test against Australia or India and leaving their premier bowler who happens to take 450+ wickets in the Test format, will never happen btw. But yeah what could go wrong against WI so leave broad out lol

Not major change but only 2, Broad and Root.

[Vishnu.Reang]

And i am sure they are regretting this decision. Imagine England playing Test against Australia or India and leaving their premier bowler who happens to take 450+ wickets in the Test format, will never happen btw. But yeah what could go wrong against WI so leave broad out lol

Not major change but only 2, Broad and Root.

Australia did something similar during the Ashes. They left out their best bowler (Mitchell Starc) for the first few matches. Obviously he doesn't have as many test wickets as Broad or Anderson, but I regard him as the best Australian bowler out there. Sometimes these teams have a tendency to give chances to younger players, even if that means leaving out some of the legends.

[JSRAW]

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Australia did something similar during the Ashes. They left out their best bowler (Mitchell Starc) for the first few matches. Obviously he doesn't have as many test wickets as Broad or Anderson, but I regard him as the best Australian bowler out there. Sometimes these teams have a tendency to give chances to younger players, even if that means leaving out some of the legends.

Everyone was making noise after his exclusion (Starc), including you . Australia follow rotation policy way too seriously so it might be justifiable act but as far as i remember England never does that with the fast bowlers, Batsmen and spinners yeah they do that all the time.

[ene1980]

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I think england was still with the best bowling lineup yes their batting lineup looked a bit novice but you have to praise west Indies as to how good they batted. Even west indies team Isn't a much experienced team so all on all i think west indies did play a pretty nice game. The way holder bowled is magnificent and how blackwood Batted in pressure conditions it was great too.

If you are dropping chances then there is no way England is going to win, the score was not that big to chance and they dropped many catches in the final innings and run out chances and if they are not able to take those opportunities then there is no way they are going to win. Blackwood was the difference between an England win and West Indies and England dropped two catches when he was around 20 runs and a run out chance and the luck was in his side and West Indies took that opportunity with both hands.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Everyone was making noise after his exclusion (Starc), including you . Australia follow rotation policy way too seriously so it might be justifiable act but as far as i remember England never does that with the fast bowlers, Batsmen and spinners yeah they do that all the time.

I was making noise because I felt that the selectors are not giving preference to merit. What can be the justification for including bowlers such as James Pattinson and Josh Hazlewood instead of Mitchell Starc? And I don't think that the exclusion of Starc back then had anything to do with bowler rotation. Because he was left out of the playing XI for 4 matches consecutively.

[akhjob]

The English team intentionally left out Broad since they wanted to give more opportunities to new bowlers like Archer etc and West Indies is not great in tests usually which is why his omission completely makes sense.

I don't think they will include Broad just because they lost the 1st test. Also, Root is another intentional omission for the same reasons. They never expected West Indies to win so convincingly in the 1st test itself. I am not expecting any major changes in the squad.

And i am sure they are regretting this decision. Imagine England playing Test against Australia or India and leaving their premier bowler who happens to take 450+ wickets in the Test format, will never happen btw. But yeah what could go wrong against WI so leave broad out lol

Not major change but only 2, Broad and Root.

If they replace Wood with Broad, it would be good but I too think that they won't bring Broad for the second test as he was left out intentionally for reasons unknown. However, Joe Root is definitely going to replace Denly, that's for sure.

[JohnBitCo]

I'm very happy right now as I won my bet on the WI winning the first test match which I posted last week before the match started. I really thought that the match was even due to the fact that either team hasn't played in a while so I thought it was even as there was no recent form to go off. Also the players need to get used to playing again and find form which is why I also thought that either team could win and so I went with the value bet. Lets also not forget that the WI have played well against England recently. Anyway this now sets up the series to see if England can fight back and win the second test.

West Indies were not the favorites before the start of the match and hence you risked to bet on WI and it paid off in the end.
The next test match is going to start tomorrow so will you still bet on West Indies ? I think it is difficult for them to win 2 in a row ? What do you think about it ?