Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[mersal]

^ having players from the same cities and states have its own advantages as well like better understanding and good bonding in very short term, conversation, etc.But more importantly they should have skills or there is no point of sending them to other countries, only with skills they can get better with experience gaining.

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[eaLiTy]

I would still prefer the domestic teams touring foreign nations, than having an India B team. We have already an India A team and there is no need to create another team which would comprise of players from different states.

I hope you understand the differentiation between domestic teams and how they pick India A and India B teams.

The players who perform well in the domestic competition will be selected into both these teams India A and India B, which means they have the possibility to represent the country and those players are sent for foreign tours to gain experience playing in different pitches.

The domestic tournament are highly competitive and most of the schedules are packed and if they are touring abroad to play other teams then the word domestic must be changed  .

If the players come from the same state, then there will be lot more cohesity and bonding.

You are talking about professional cricket, what kind of special bonding you are looking. If someone is not capable to bond in a team then he is not fit to play the sport.

[JSRAW]

I would still prefer the domestic teams touring foreign nations, than having an India B team. We have already an India A team and there is no need to create another team which would comprise of players from different states.

I hope you understand the differentiation between domestic teams and how they pick India A and India B teams.

Just to be clear India B team is hypothetical in this case, there is no such team called India B.

Chances are you might be aware of that fact, but your statement sounds like India B team already exits. I might be wrong in my assumptions so you can correct me on that.

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India A (Already exists)
Under-23 (Already exits)
Joint Ranji Team /India B (only new players, not a single players from India A or National team)

I would still prefer the domestic teams touring foreign nations, than having an India B team. We have already an India A team and there is no need to create another team which would comprise of players from different states. 

Let me put it this way..

-Pick Ranji Trophy winner team for foreign tour on single season, normally every team has 15-16 men squad in the Ranji and every team has some sort of wasted player at domestic level, exclude them from the team for the better results.
-Then pick Top performers from every Ranji team and put them under winning Ranji team's banner.

When they actually tour in SENA countries, Pick the best team from the 18-20 member squad.

If the players come from the same state, then there will be lot more cohesity and bonding.

eaLiTy already said it.

[Vishnu.Reang]

If the players come from the same state, then there will be lot more cohesity and bonding.

You are talking about professional cricket, what kind of special bonding you are looking. If someone is not capable to bond in a team then he is not fit to play the sport.

OK. Perhaps I was wrong with the team bonding part. But still, I believe that there's nothing wrong in allowing the state sides to tour foreign nations. If the County teams from England can do this, then why not the relatively rich Ranji Trophy teams? Also I like the idea of allowing two overseas players, like they have in County cricket. This can help many of the smaller states, such as Sikkim and Nagaland.

[eaLiTy]

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Just to be clear India B team is hypothetical in this case, there is no such team called India B.

Chances are you might be aware of that fact, but your statement sounds like India B team already exits. I might be wrong in my assumptions so you can correct me on that.

I mentioned India B because i remember the Challenger Series where players were split into India senior, India A and India B and the reason i remember that is because Sreesanth who i knew as a club player from Ernakulam cricket club and i still remember him getting selected for India B and he took the wicket of Sachin Tendulkar which helped him fast tracked his career into international cricket.

The last tournament was played in 2014 and hence you might have not heard about that and India B won the competition in the 2013 season.

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 But still, I believe that there's nothing wrong in allowing the state sides to tour foreign nations. If the County teams from England can do this, then why not the relatively rich Ranji Trophy teams? Also I like the idea of allowing two overseas players, like they have in County cricket. This can help many of the smaller states, such as Sikkim and Nagaland.

I am not against the idea, but you need to understand the competition is really high to become a cricket player and then you need connections to get into the team and the payment is not that high and attractive for foreign players and the small states will not be having enough money to spent. If the BCCI is helping one state and fund them, then the rest of the states will oppose that and it will not be a fair game. If the competition starts to recruit foreign players to win the domestic tournament by every state then you are not building up the future generation.

In my opinion domestic tournaments should be there to develop a cricket player and a selection process to represent the national team and some of these players will be sent abroad to gain experience.  

[JSRAW]

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the Challenger Series

This is embarrassing!!

I clearly don't remember this, tried to recall but failed miserably. Will look into it and see if i am able to remember anything about it.

[7788bitcoin]

I believe that there's nothing wrong in allowing the state sides to tour foreign nations. If the County teams from England can do this, then why not the relatively rich Ranji Trophy teams? Also I like the idea of allowing two overseas players, like they have in County cricket. This can help many of the smaller states, such as Sikkim and Nagaland.

I have not heard about domestic teams having cross tournaments and if all the cricket boards can agree to it, then it can be entertaining for the fans, the best domestic team from each country battling it out. Players from other countries usually gets selected to play for county cricket and it is possible because of the pay scale and if the teams can attract players with a good pay scale then your dream will be attained  .

[Indymoney]

I believe that there's nothing wrong in allowing the state sides to tour foreign nations. If the County teams from England can do this, then why not the relatively rich Ranji Trophy teams? Also I like the idea of allowing two overseas players, like they have in County cricket. This can help many of the smaller states, such as Sikkim and Nagaland.

I have not heard about domestic teams having cross tournaments and if all the cricket boards can agree to it, then it can be entertaining for the fans, the best domestic team from each country battling it out. Players from other countries usually gets selected to play for county cricket and it is possible because of the pay scale and if the teams can attract players with a good pay scale then your dream will be attained  .

This can happen but sadly we have no system like soccer in cricket most of countries going with different time of year which is not good for many players otherwise this can create more interest and financial help for many players from differnt countries.

[ene1980]

In my opinion domestic tournaments should be there to develop a cricket player and a selection process to represent the national team and some of these players will be sent abroad to gain experience.

I do agree with it, everything is commercialized and it is better to keep domestic cricket as it is as it is helping some players to make a living and if they are performing well then they can get selected for the national team and it will help in grooming young players. The reason for the success of England Australia and India in world cricket is because they have a good domestic tournament aimed at producing young talents.

[JSRAW]

For increasing quality in domestic cricket BCCI should do some reform like every player from the national test team should play at least 2 test match every year for their state teams. Make this rule mandatory for premier player as well (Kohli, Bumrah,Shami) , manage their workload smartly by giving them break during any unnecessary T-20 or ODI series.

You can imagine the quality of cricket and viewership when likes of Kohli and Bumrah playing for their home team Delhi and Gujarat respectively. It might help young talents too.

[JohnBitCo]

In my opinion domestic tournaments should be there to develop a cricket player and a selection process to represent the national team and some of these players will be sent abroad to gain experience.

I do agree with it, everything is commercialized and it is better to keep domestic cricket as it is as it is helping some players to make a living and if they are performing well then they can get selected for the national team and it will help in grooming young players. The reason for the success of England Australia and India in world cricket is because they have a good domestic tournament aimed at producing young talents.

The better the domestic structure is in your country, the more better players it will produce for your national team. The grooming of the crickets starts from the college level , selection to the domestic teams, moving in the U19 team and finally the best players make it to be national team. The journey of a player is full of struggle and competition.

[Vishnu.Reang]

For increasing quality in domestic cricket BCCI should do some reform like every player from the national test team should play at least 2 test match every year for their state teams. Make this rule mandatory for premier player as well (Kohli, Bumrah,Shami) , manage their workload smartly by giving them break during any unnecessary T-20 or ODI series.

You can imagine the quality of cricket and viewership when likes of Kohli and Bumrah playing for their home team Delhi and Gujarat respectively. It might help young talents too.

I disagree. BCCI should not force anyone. If they player want to play for his Ranji Trophy side, the he can and in case he don't want to do that then the authorities should respect that decision. The major players are complaining about increasing work load with the international calendar. At this point, how can we ask them to play more matches? But still, I have seen players such as KL Rahul and Ashwin playing for domestic sides.

[Juggy777]

For increasing quality in domestic cricket BCCI should do some reform like every player from the national test team should play at least 2 test match every year for their state teams. Make this rule mandatory for premier player as well (Kohli, Bumrah,Shami) , manage their workload smartly by giving them break during any unnecessary T-20 or ODI series.

You can imagine the quality of cricket and viewership when likes of Kohli and Bumrah playing for their home team Delhi and Gujarat respectively. It might help young talents too.

I disagree. BCCI should not force anyone. If they player want to play for his Ranji Trophy side, the he can and in case he don't want to do that then the authorities should respect that decision. The major players are complaining about increasing work load with the international calendar. At this point, how can we ask them to play more matches? But still, I have seen players such as KL Rahul and Ashwin playing for domestic sides.

@JSRAW while your suggestions are noble but it’ll never be implemented by BCCI because their sponsors won’t allow top player’s to skip international cricket, and participate in domestic cricket matches as it’ll effect their channel’s viewership.

Also if I remember correctly then Jusprit Bumrah intentionally skipped a domestic match, which he was required to play to prove that he was fit enough to participate in international cricket, but despite skipping the match he was yet selected in the playing 11 right away.

This is further proof for all of us that BCCI will always prioritise international cricket, over domestic cricket for their top player’s.

Source:

https://sportscafe.in/cricket/articles/2019/dec/25/reports-jasprit-bumrah-allowed-to-skip-ranji-match-after-sourav-ganguly-intervention

https://theprint.in/sport/star-sports-upset-virat-kohli-not-playing-asia-cup-none-of-your-business-says-bcci/119284/

[Swordsoffreedom]

All kinds of sports events are about to re-start again, What is the future of Test-cricket in the current situation?

Is it at all possible to protect the players and audience for such a long time if the corona vaccine cannot be discovered in near future? It seems Test-cricket board doesn't care much about Gallery supporters.

Meanwhile, according to the new decision, the T20 World Cup is going to be held in October, but it is Short-term game, hope there will be nothing problems and The ICC is taking this decision after ensuring security, maybe the ODI game will start soon.

Guys what's your perspective? what do you think about Test match?

[JSRAW]

For increasing quality in domestic cricket BCCI should do some reform like every player from the national test team should play at least 2 test match every year for their state teams. Make this rule mandatory for premier player as well (Kohli, Bumrah,Shami) , manage their workload smartly by giving them break during any unnecessary T-20 or ODI series.

You can imagine the quality of cricket and viewership when likes of Kohli and Bumrah playing for their home team Delhi and Gujarat respectively. It might help young talents too.

I disagree. BCCI should not force anyone. If they player want to play for his Ranji Trophy side, the he can and in case he don't want to do that then the authorities should respect that decision. The major players are complaining about increasing work load with the international calendar. At this point, how can we ask them to play more matches? But still, I have seen players such as KL Rahul and Ashwin playing for domestic sides.

Authorities do respect their decision regarding playing in Domestic arena and some players exploiting the system repeatedly. Dhawan, Dhoni bluntly refused to play in Ranji and we all know what happened to Ambati Raydu when he retired from Domestic games after getting selected in the national team.

KL Rahul recently started playing when he got kicked out from the test team. Ashwin, Ishant, Umesh Yadav, Pritvi, Vihari, Mayank aggrawal already play for their respective team whenever they get the chance.

About complaining part, BCCI can manage their work load if they don't focus on dead series every now and then.

@JSRAW while your suggestions are noble but it’ll never be implemented by BCCI because their sponsors won’t allow top player’s to skip international cricket, and participate in domestic cricket matches as it’ll effect their channel’s viewership.

This might be a valid reason.

[Vishnu.Reang]

All kinds of sports events are about to re-start again, What is the future of Test-cricket in the current situation?

Is it at all possible to protect the players and audience for such a long time if the corona vaccine cannot be discovered in near future? It seems Test-cricket board doesn't care much about Gallery supporters.

Meanwhile, according to the new decision, the T20 World Cup is going to be held in October, but it is Short-term game, hope there will be nothing problems and The ICC is taking this decision after ensuring security, maybe the ODI game will start soon.

Guys what's your perspective? what do you think about Test match?

I'll be overjoyed if international cricket starts within the next few weeks. It was really depressing for the last two months, with no live action to watch. But that said, I am really concerned about the safety of the players. Obviously one of the teams need to travel by flight, and under current circumstances it doesn't look like a good option. Even now, large number of air travelers are testing positive for the virus.

[pakhitheboss]

All kinds of sports events are about to re-start again, What is the future of Test-cricket in the current situation?

Is it at all possible to protect the players and audience for such a long time if the corona vaccine cannot be discovered in near future? It seems Test-cricket board doesn't care much about Gallery supporters.

Meanwhile, according to the new decision, the T20 World Cup is going to be held in October, but it is Short-term game, hope there will be nothing problems and The ICC is taking this decision after ensuring security, maybe the ODI game will start soon.

Guys what's your perspective? what do you think about Test match?

In my opinion Test cricket will also be resume but stadiums will remain empty. I think from now on all kinds of sports events will be conducted without the crowd. German football league has started and they are playing in empty stadium. This system will prevail untill a cure is out, which might take more than a year from now on.

This is a really good sign for sports enthusiasts like us we can now again watch our favourite players playing our favourite sports on our TV's.

[Vishnu.Reang]

In my opinion Test cricket will also be resume but stadiums will remain empty. I think from now on all kinds of sports events will be conducted without the crowd. German football league has started and they are playing in empty stadium. This system will prevail untill a cure is out, which might take more than a year from now on.

This is a really good sign for sports enthusiasts like us we can now again watch our favourite players playing our favourite sports on our TV's.

If you are not one of those football hooligans, I don't see a valid reason for not staying at home and watching the match on TV. With 5 million people infected across the globe, this pandemic is not a joke. It is the responsibility of the government to push economy back on track. But that doesn't mean that they are going to allow tens of thousands of fans to crowd around in the cricket stadiums, where the average distance between two fans will be somewhere in the vicinity of 2cm.

[7788bitcoin]

All kinds of sports events are about to re-start again, What is the future of Test-cricket in the current situation?
Is it at all possible to protect the players and audience for such a long time if the corona vaccine cannot be discovered in near future? It seems Test-cricket board doesn't care much about Gallery supporters.

If the cricket board is able to test all the players and not allow audience in the stadium then they can resume the matches, i am not expecting a vaccine in the near future as it might take years to develop as it needs intensive testing before using it to humans. If the players are not having outside contact then there is nothing much to worry.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

If you are not one of those football hooligans, I don't see a valid reason for not staying at home and watching the match on TV. With 5 million people infected across the globe, this pandemic is not a joke. It is the responsibility of the government to push economy back on track. But that doesn't mean that they are going to allow tens of thousands of fans to crowd around in the cricket stadiums, where the average distance between two fans will be somewhere in the vicinity of 2cm.

Not sure when the cricket will be back, even if they plan to resume there is no way we are going to see audience participation especially in Asian countries where you get a huge crowd for every match. The government is responsible to push the economy back on tract especially the manufacturing sector but they have nothing to do with sporting events.