Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[MFahad]

England have started very strongly in second innings and are 86/0. Sibley and Burns have provided them the good platform and England are already leading by 260 runs. They can start batting aggressive from now and try to make a good big lead and ask West Indies to bat and get them all out quickly so that even if rain some overs, England still have chance to get WI all out in remaining time.

England are now 355 runs ahead. The big question is when they should declare. I think 450 will be a good target. They can stretch the lead to 500 but they also have to take into account the weather conditions and the rain could also effect the match.

[Vishnu.Reang]

England have started very strongly in second innings and are 86/0. Sibley and Burns have provided them the good platform and England are already leading by 260 runs. They can start batting aggressive from now and try to make a good big lead and ask West Indies to bat and get them all out quickly so that even if rain some overs, England still have chance to get WI all out in remaining time.

England are now 355 runs ahead. The big question is when they should declare. I think 450 will be a good target. They can stretch the lead to 500 but they also have to take into account the weather conditions and the rain could also effect the match.

15 overs remain for the day and I guess they can score another 90-100 runs to take the lead to 450. Holder is not looking 100% fit and the two most inefficient bowlers (Rahkeem Cornwall and Roston Chase) are bowling right now. IMO, a lead of 450-460 should be enough to beat West Indies. Remember that England went to this test with 5 full time bowlers (in addition to Stokes) and they can easily bowl them out.

[7788bitcoin]

15 overs remain for the day and I guess they can score another 90-100 runs to take the lead to 450. Holder is not looking 100% fit and the two most inefficient bowlers (Rahkeem Cornwall and Roston Chase) are bowling right now. IMO, a lead of 450-460 should be enough to beat West Indies. Remember that England went to this test with 5 full time bowlers (in addition to Stokes) and they can easily bowl them out.

What is the point in having a lead of 450 runs, i was getting frustrated that they are not declaring and waiting for Burns to get his century, the weather situation is not that great tomorrow and luckily Burns got out in the 90s and immediately they declared the innings and West Indies have a battle of how long they are going to last so that the amount i wagged will be returning back to my account . 

[Swordsoffreedom]

England have started very strongly in second innings and are 86/0. Sibley and Burns have provided them the good platform and England are already leading by 260 runs. They can start batting aggressive from now and try to make a good big lead and ask West Indies to bat and get them all out quickly so that even if rain some overs, England still have chance to get WI all out in remaining time.

In my opinion, Sibley and Burns could have scored runs a bit more aggressively. During the second session today, they were scoring at around 2.5 runs per over. The run rate improved only when Joe Root came to the crease after Dom Sibley got out. Right now they are leading by 314, with nine wickets in hand. I don't know what prevents them from scoring 100-150 runs from the remaining overs today (25 overs remain). If I were the captain, then I would have asked them to score another 120-160 runs from 20 overs and then left 5 overs for West Indies to bat.

At this moment, England lead by 341 runs. it is huge enough to defeat West-Indies team. I hope England will be able to play until day 4, in session 1 and I think they will give target more than 400 runs. It is an easy test for England team now, cause England's fast bowlers will be able to put pressure easily on the West indies team on last day.

[MFahad]

England have started very strongly in second innings and are 86/0. Sibley and Burns have provided them the good platform and England are already leading by 260 runs. They can start batting aggressive from now and try to make a good big lead and ask West Indies to bat and get them all out quickly so that even if rain some overs, England still have chance to get WI all out in remaining time.

In my opinion, Sibley and Burns could have scored runs a bit more aggressively. During the second session today, they were scoring at around 2.5 runs per over. The run rate improved only when Joe Root came to the crease after Dom Sibley got out. Right now they are leading by 314, with nine wickets in hand. I don't know what prevents them from scoring 100-150 runs from the remaining overs today (25 overs remain). If I were the captain, then I would have asked them to score another 120-160 runs from 20 overs and then left 5 overs for West Indies to bat.

At this moment, England lead by 341 runs. it is huge enough to defeat West-Indies team. I hope England will be able to play until day 4, in session 1 and I think they will give target more than 400 runs. It is an easy test for England team now, cause England's fast bowlers will be able to put pressure easily on the West indies team on last day.

Well, England has taken a brave decision and declared the innings a bit too quickly. 393 is the target for them and i must say that it is achievable if
W- indies team bat sensibly.

Edit: look like they cant bat sensibly. they are already two down. 

[Vishnu.Reang]

Well, England has taken a brave decision and declared the innings a bit too quickly. 393 is the target for them and i must say that it is achievable if
W- indies team bat sensibly.

Edit: look like they cant bat sensibly. they are already two down. 

It was very surprising to see England declaring even before getting a lead of 400. They were probably worried about the weather prediction, which had gloomy forecast for the next two days. BTW, it is also surprising that you expected the West Indies to bat sensibly. 

When was the last time you saw them batting sensibly? I would rate the current West Indies side as the most undisciplined and selfish squad among all the test teams. They have some good players, but then what is the use in having such players when they can't play together as a team? 

[eaLiTy]

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Probably they think that Stuart Broad is close to retirement and they wanted to give chance to some of the younger players (such as Jofra Archer, Mark Wood and Chris Woakes).

Stuart Broad is actually the highest wicket taker in the past tournaments and i was actually shocked to see him not selected in the first match and now he played the next two matches and yet he is again the highest wicket taker by a long margin in this series in both the teams and he just need 1 more wicket to reach 500 Test wickets which is incredible and 14 wickets in this series and with the way he started the day he will pick further wickets.

But IMO, Broad has got a raw deal from the selectors for the last few years. Despite being an all rounder, I have seen him batting at the no.11 slot. The younger bowlers on the other hand, are being given a flurry of opportunities, despite their bad form. Jofra Archer is not performing well for almost an year. But even now the English selectors treat him like he is some sort of divine invention.

The dip in batting form happened after Stuart broad was hit in the head by a Varun Aaron bouncer and broke his nose in 2014 and after that he himself said he lost his confidence in batting and in this series he wanted to perform again with the bat and he was training especially to change his batting and to start attacking rather than defense and it worked.

[MFahad]

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Probably they think that Stuart Broad is close to retirement and they wanted to give chance to some of the younger players (such as Jofra Archer, Mark Wood and Chris Woakes).

Stuart Broad is actually the highest wicket taker in the past tournaments and i was actually shocked to see him not selected in the first match and now he played the next two matches and yet he is again the highest wicket taker by a long margin in this series in both the teams and he just need 1 more wicket to reach 500 Test wickets which is incredible and 14 wickets in this series and with the way he started the day he will pick further wickets.

But IMO, Broad has got a raw deal from the selectors for the last few years. Despite being an all rounder, I have seen him batting at the no.11 slot. The younger bowlers on the other hand, are being given a flurry of opportunities, despite their bad form. Jofra Archer is not performing well for almost an year. But even now the English selectors treat him like he is some sort of divine invention.

The dip in batting form happened after Stuart broad was hit in the head by a Varun Aaron bouncer and broke his nose in 2014 and after that he himself said he lost his confidence in batting and in this series he wanted to perform again with the bat and he was training especially to change his batting and to start attacking rather than defense and it worked.

Stuart Broad bowled superbly today in the six overs today and got 2 wickets for WI. He bowled a superb spell of 3-1-8-2 and i am sure he will come up in the morning with more confidence and it will hard for the remaining Windies batsman to face him.

[Indymoney]

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Probably they think that Stuart Broad is close to retirement and they wanted to give chance to some of the younger players (such as Jofra Archer, Mark Wood and Chris Woakes).

Stuart Broad is actually the highest wicket taker in the past tournaments and i was actually shocked to see him not selected in the first match and now he played the next two matches and yet he is again the highest wicket taker by a long margin in this series in both the teams and he just need 1 more wicket to reach 500 Test wickets which is incredible and 14 wickets in this series and with the way he started the day he will pick further wickets.

But IMO, Broad has got a raw deal from the selectors for the last few years. Despite being an all rounder, I have seen him batting at the no.11 slot. The younger bowlers on the other hand, are being given a flurry of opportunities, despite their bad form. Jofra Archer is not performing well for almost an year. But even now the English selectors treat him like he is some sort of divine invention.

The dip in batting form happened after Stuart broad was hit in the head by a Varun Aaron bouncer and broke his nose in 2014 and after that he himself said he lost his confidence in batting and in this series he wanted to perform again with the bat and he was training especially to change his batting and to start attacking rather than defense and it worked.

Stuart Broad bowled superbly today in the six overs today and got 2 wickets for WI. He bowled a superb spell of 3-1-8-2 and i am sure he will come up in the morning with more confidence and it will hard for the remaining Windies batsman to face him.

Stuart Broad is currently in best form and doing great job for his team now match is wide open and only rain can save West Indies from defeat England need just 50 to 60 overs for doing this all now we have very few days after this Pakistan is going to start their tour hopefully this could be also interesting series as Pakistan and West Indies both teams same in nature mean unpredictable.

[ene1980]

Stuart Broad is currently in best form and doing great job for his team now match is wide open and only rain can save West Indies from defeat England need just 50 to 60 overs for doing this all now we have very few days after this Pakistan is going to start their tour hopefully this could be also interesting series as Pakistan and West Indies both teams same in nature mean unpredictable.

Two more days to go and there is no way we would see two days of rain and with 8 wickets left for England to pick and the bowling power they have it is a huge task for West Indies to draw the match and the series. So after this series we will be having an ODI with Ireland and even though he odds were not that great i am betting on England and after that the series against Pakistan and i doubt whether they can make any waves in England.

[AjithBtc]

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Probably they think that Stuart Broad is close to retirement and they wanted to give chance to some of the younger players (such as Jofra Archer, Mark Wood and Chris Woakes).

Stuart Broad is actually the highest wicket taker in the past tournaments and i was actually shocked to see him not selected in the first match and now he played the next two matches and yet he is again the highest wicket taker by a long margin in this series in both the teams and he just need 1 more wicket to reach 500 Test wickets which is incredible and 14 wickets in this series and with the way he started the day he will pick further wickets.

But IMO, Broad has got a raw deal from the selectors for the last few years. Despite being an all rounder, I have seen him batting at the no.11 slot. The younger bowlers on the other hand, are being given a flurry of opportunities, despite their bad form. Jofra Archer is not performing well for almost an year. But even now the English selectors treat him like he is some sort of divine invention.

The dip in batting form happened after Stuart broad was hit in the head by a Varun Aaron bouncer and broke his nose in 2014 and after that he himself said he lost his confidence in batting and in this series he wanted to perform again with the bat and he was training especially to change his batting and to start attacking rather than defense and it worked.

Stuart Broad bowled superbly today in the six overs today and got 2 wickets for WI. He bowled a superb spell of 3-1-8-2 and i am sure he will come up in the morning with more confidence and it will hard for the remaining Windies batsman to face him.

Stuart Broad has a good bowling style. From the matches played by him, he'll change the match or else from the beginning his bowling gets smashed. In this match he is the game changer. The chances for the match to end up in a draw is very low. During the pandemic somehow the cricket enthusiasts have got more matches scheduled.

[bryant.coleman]

The dip in batting form happened after Stuart broad was hit in the head by a Varun Aaron bouncer and broke his nose in 2014 and after that he himself said he lost his confidence in batting and in this series he wanted to perform again with the bat and he was training especially to change his batting and to start attacking rather than defense and it worked.

Thanks for posting this. I wasn't following cricket very closely in 2014 (I was out of job then), and I might have missed this incident. He is just one wicket away from becoming the 7th bowler to take 500 or more test wickets (the only other English bowler to have this achievement is also playing in this test - James Anderson). I remember Broad stating as a genuine allrounder. Then all of a sudden, I saw him batting at no.10 and no.11 slots. Even in this test match, he was given the no.10 slot.

[teosanru]

Isn't this match going too fast? I mean it's almost certain that West Indies have lost the match plus series but I literally don't know how and why did it happen? They landed in first test with such a great Enthusiasm and discipline and till the third match they are being skittled like they are an U-19 team. The top order was playing so nicely in the first match and see now they can't even stand on the pitch. I understand that new addition in the team is Broad who wasn't in the first test match but still such a performance by west Indies is disappointing. Maybe I expected a lot from them.

[Haunebu]

Isn't this match going too fast? I mean it's almost certain that West Indies have lost the match plus series but I literally don't know how and why did it happen? They landed in first test with such a great Enthusiasm and discipline and till the third match they are being skittled like they are an U-19 team. The top order was playing so nicely in the first match and see now they can't even stand on the pitch. I understand that new addition in the team is Broad who wasn't in the first test match but still such a performance by west Indies is disappointing. Maybe I expected a lot from them.

This result was predictable from the start to be honest. What many didn't predict was England losing to West Indies in the 1st test and almost handing a win in the 2nd test which is why people expected more from West Indies.

If players like Hope etc performed better, they could have made it tougher for England. However, the English side decimated them and it looks like they might win by a big margin now.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Isn't this match going too fast? I mean it's almost certain that West Indies have lost the match plus series but I literally don't know how and why did it happen? They landed in first test with such a great Enthusiasm and discipline and till the third match they are being skittled like they are an U-19 team. The top order was playing so nicely in the first match and see now they can't even stand on the pitch. I understand that new addition in the team is Broad who wasn't in the first test match but still such a performance by west Indies is disappointing. Maybe I expected a lot from them.

The first test was an exception. Actually I was expecting England to win the series 3-0, but West Indies surprised me in the first test. But having watched the performance of the West Indies test team over the last few years, I know what to expect next. And I was not wrong. Right now, the only team which can compete with the Big 3 nations in test format is New Zealand. Everyone else is going downhill, and that includes the West Indies.

[JSRAW]

^^ Gentle reminder..

India is pretty much shit team as well when playing in the English condition, forgot last tour of India?  . India used to be no 1 team in test ranking when England whooped our ass.  

Okay "Shit team" is bit exaggerated but they always play bad cricket there.

[AB de Royse777]

Day four Test between England vs WI:

11.30am: Right, no sign of the covers coming off just yet

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/19497/game/1225249/england-vs-west-indies-3rd-test-west-indies-in-england-2020

This seems a good sign for WI. Their only hope is to have rain for the whole day and tomorrow too. Is rain going to enforce a draw in this match? :-P

I am waiting for a good odd to catch like last time :-D

[ene1980]

It would not be a good result if it ends in a draw. Because England have actually played this test match amazing from the start and they deserve the win considering their overall performance in this match with the bat and the bowl as well. And with this win England takes the series or else it will end in the draw. Though with your bets last time you really had a close finish, but good thing you ended up winning.

I do not think we will see a ball bowled today as the pitch is wet and England just need 3 sessions to win the series and the match with the bowling line up they have and Stuart Broad in prime form it is a matter of time they win the match, they could have declared the innings earlier considering the weather forecast was not that great and yet they wanted to pile up runs and whether the weather will allow them to bowl again is to be seen.

[Haunebu]

This seems a good sign for WI. Their only hope is to have rain for the whole day and tomorrow too. Is rain going to enforce a draw in this match? :-P

I am waiting for a good odd to catch like last time :-D

You might be right here. I cannot believe how lucky West Indies are. Rain helped them in the 2nd test though they ended up losing anyway and it could force a draw in the 3rd test which would be a horrible result.

England would the maximum overs they can bowl to get a chance to get them all out as quickly as possible. Broad is now just 1 wicket away to pick 500 test match wickets.

Am pretty confident England can pick up the necessary wickets as long as it stops raining soon. If it wasn't for the rain, the match would have probably ended by now.

[BitSat19]

This seems a good sign for WI. Their only hope is to have rain for the whole day and tomorrow too. Is rain going to enforce a draw in this match? :-P

I am waiting for a good odd to catch like last time :-D

You might right here. I cannot believe how lucky West Indies are. Rain helped them in the 2nd test though they ended up losing anyway and it could force a draw in the 3rd test which would be a horrible result.

England would the maximum overs they can bowl to get a chance to get them all out as quickly as possible. Broad is now just 1 wicket away to pick 500 test match wickets.

Am pretty confident England can pick up the necessary wickets as long as it stops raining soon. If it wasn't for the rain, the match would have probably ended by now.

English bowlers on fire and they need just 50 to 60 overs for end this all hopefully tomorrow we will have some good time as forecast is clear for second and third session so we will able to have good result of this test match.