2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Shamm]

Japeth and C stand are very needed in terms of inside basket as we all know that they are good in offense and defense inside. But I think they need more go for tight defense as we all know that Bay Area still can have a good point. This loss must be the lesson of ginebra to know better in the next game maybe more three point shot and good lineup in the paint area they are needing to became stronger once again.

Japeth is not consistent yet, has not seen a good him from him, it seemed like he was intimidated with the size of the Bay Area, unlike in the all Filipino cup where only JMF is the biggest defender he will have to beat. This is different, Bay Area is moving the ball very well, there in and out offense is clicking and Ginebra has not made the right adjustment in game 2.

That’s why they lose on that game, the locals can’t help Brownlee that time and their biggest problem is the biggest defender of Bay Area. They have to adjust in game 3 if they want to take back the lead, it will be hard for Ginebra if they are going to give too much confidence for Bay Area, they can be more deadly as they already prove this many times this conference, game 3 will be more crucial for both teams.

That's how the Dragons expose them since they really get a problem in terms of defense so they need to adjust in that area and try to make their shooters work so that they will make the life of their biggest defender hard so that he push to go out in the paint and the finisher of ginebra can pentrate in the paint. Its just they need to rotate the ball and make their triangle offense work that's their key to win.

Yes you are right that mate 7 foot tall guy in Bay Area is a nightmare of barangay ginebra as we all know that if they go to a man to man defense they can not handle the center of bay are all they need here is make a good team work if barangay ginebra will go for defenses a tight defense will be recommended. And in terms of offense all they need this that make the ball faster in rotate so that they can find their open teammates and fire for the free points.

[Kelvinid]

Yes you are right that mate 7 foot tall guy in Bay Area is a nightmare of barangay ginebra as we all know that if they go to a man to man defense they can not handle the center of bay are all they need here is make a good team work if barangay ginebra will go for defenses a tight defense will be recommended. And in terms of offense all they need this that make the ball faster in rotate so that they can find their open teammates and fire for the free points.

They are not using him so much because Ginebra can easily make an adjustment and they love to run. This big man will make the play of the Bay Area slow and that will be taken advantage of the Ginebra especially on the fast break. He maybe so dominant in the center but with Ginebra good strategy on denying him the ball, he cannot be effective.

[Questat]

Yes you are right that mate 7 foot tall guy in Bay Area is a nightmare of barangay ginebra as we all know that if they go to a man to man defense they can not handle the center of bay are all they need here is make a good team work if barangay ginebra will go for defenses a tight defense will be recommended. And in terms of offense all they need this that make the ball faster in rotate so that they can find their open teammates and fire for the free points.

They are not using him so much because Ginebra can easily make an adjustment and they love to run. This big man will make the play of the Bay Area slow and that will be taken advantage of the Ginebra especially on the fast break. He maybe so dominant in the center but with Ginebra good strategy on denying him the ball, he cannot be effective.

Yeah, he was barely used in this series, even against the SMB, JMF can still find a way to make points even guarded by a 7'5 defender. That's a big disadvantage of tall player because they don't run fast and they don't have a good shooting stroke outside. I guess even without him, Bay Area were still able to manage in defeating the Ginebra, but let's see what will happen in game 3.

[Botnake]

Yes you are right that mate 7 foot tall guy in Bay Area is a nightmare of barangay ginebra as we all know that if they go to a man to man defense they can not handle the center of bay are all they need here is make a good team work if barangay ginebra will go for defenses a tight defense will be recommended. And in terms of offense all they need this that make the ball faster in rotate so that they can find their open teammates and fire for the free points.

They are not using him so much because Ginebra can easily make an adjustment and they love to run. This big man will make the play of the Bay Area slow and that will be taken advantage of the Ginebra especially on the fast break. He maybe so dominant in the center but with Ginebra good strategy on denying him the ball, he cannot be effective.

Yeah, he was barely used in this series, even against the SMB, JMF can still find a way to make points even guarded by a 7'5 defender. That's a big disadvantage of tall player because they don't run fast and they don't have a good shooting stroke outside. I guess even without him, Bay Area were still able to manage in defeating the Ginebra, but let's see what will happen in game 3.

I hope that we will see a 3.00 odds for Ginebra in game 3, although Ginebra looks really bad in game 2, I might be tempted to put my be on them, my 5k to win 10k, that's a great deal already. As what some fans are saying, it's 8 vs 5, that's in favor of Ginebra.

[Yamifoud]

Yes you are right that mate 7 foot tall guy in Bay Area is a nightmare of barangay ginebra as we all know that if they go to a man to man defense they can not handle the center of bay are all they need here is make a good team work if barangay ginebra will go for defenses a tight defense will be recommended. And in terms of offense all they need this that make the ball faster in rotate so that they can find their open teammates and fire for the free points.

They are not using him so much because Ginebra can easily make an adjustment and they love to run. This big man will make the play of the Bay Area slow and that will be taken advantage of the Ginebra especially on the fast break. He maybe so dominant in the center but with Ginebra good strategy on denying him the ball, he cannot be effective.

Yeah, he was barely used in this series, even against the SMB, JMF can still find a way to make points even guarded by a 7'5 defender. That's a big disadvantage of tall player because they don't run fast and they don't have a good shooting stroke outside. I guess even without him, Bay Area were still able to manage in defeating the Ginebra, but let's see what will happen in game 3.

I hope that we will see a 3.00 odds for Ginebra in game 3, although Ginebra looks really bad in game 2, I might be tempted to put my be on them, my 5k to win 10k, that's a great deal already. As what some fans are saying, it's 8 vs 5, that's in favor of Ginebra.

Last time it was 2.44 or 2.48 on some gambling sites, so I think it will remain since the series is tied and Ginebra will try to win here. Odds will only change if bettors believe a certain team will likely win, just like the Bay Area in game 2, it's a must win for them, otherwise they'll be down 0-2 before the long break.

The most consistent here is the total, we can always rely on the under as it will likely hit.

[Shamm]

Yes you are right that mate 7 foot tall guy in Bay Area is a nightmare of barangay ginebra as we all know that if they go to a man to man defense they can not handle the center of bay are all they need here is make a good team work if barangay ginebra will go for defenses a tight defense will be recommended. And in terms of offense all they need this that make the ball faster in rotate so that they can find their open teammates and fire for the free points.

They are not using him so much because Ginebra can easily make an adjustment and they love to run. This big man will make the play of the Bay Area slow and that will be taken advantage of the Ginebra especially on the fast break. He maybe so dominant in the center but with Ginebra good strategy on denying him the ball, he cannot be effective.

Yeah, he was barely used in this series, even against the SMB, JMF can still find a way to make points even guarded by a 7'5 defender. That's a big disadvantage of tall player because they don't run fast and they don't have a good shooting stroke outside. I guess even without him, Bay Area were still able to manage in defeating the Ginebra, but let's see what will happen in game 3.

I hope that we will see a 3.00 odds for Ginebra in game 3, although Ginebra looks really bad in game 2, I might be tempted to put my be on them, my 5k to win 10k, that's a great deal already. As what some fans are saying, it's 8 vs 5, that's in favor of Ginebra.

Honestly,  I'll lost in game 2 it because I'll betting on ginebra and this upcoming game 3 I'll bet again for the ginebra team as I think that they can dominate again those opponent cause all they need is a tight defense and a good rotation of the ball then they will win. also I believe in local players who can contribute well in the game three. CStand and aguilar with brownlee can do good in the paint area and other local can contribute by shooting outside.

[Russlenat]

Honestly,  I'll lost in game 2 it because I'll betting on ginebra and this upcoming game 3 I'll bet again for the ginebra team as I think that they can dominate again those opponent cause all they need is a tight defense and a good rotation of the ball then they will win. also I believe in local players who can contribute well in the game three. CStand and aguilar with brownlee can do good in the paint area and other local can contribute by shooting outside.

There's always a chance to bounce back, and that is in game 3. Thompson should be shooting well so they will be able to spread the floor very well, last game, it was only Brownlee who are shooting well, others seem lost because of the tight defense of the Bay Area.

Coach Tim is probably cooking something in game 3, and I want to see that surprise, so let's get on the home team and the underdog at the same time.

[Fredomago]

Honestly,  I'll lost in game 2 it because I'll betting on ginebra and this upcoming game 3 I'll bet again for the ginebra team as I think that they can dominate again those opponent cause all they need is a tight defense and a good rotation of the ball then they will win. also I believe in local players who can contribute well in the game three. CStand and aguilar with brownlee can do good in the paint area and other local can contribute by shooting outside.

There's always a chance to bounce back, and that is in game 3. Thompson should be shooting well so they will be able to spread the floor very well, last game, it was only Brownlee who are shooting well, others seem lost because of the tight defense of the Bay Area.

Coach Tim is probably cooking something in game 3, and I want to see that surprise, so let's get on the home team and the underdog at the same time.

They need to lean on each other while inside the court, just like how they play the visiting team last game 1, they need to be a 2-way player when inside the court, both offense and defense should be working right for them, coach Tim needs to find ways to remind his squad to work and keep aiming for the win, Bay Area adjust well and Ginebra needs to answer a good counter with what the Dragon did last game 2.

I'll be on the Gin kings side this upcoming game 3, I believe that they will show good adjustment to win the game.

[LogitechMouse]

Yes you are right that mate 7 foot tall guy in Bay Area is a nightmare of barangay ginebra as we all know that if they go to a man to man defense they can not handle the center of bay are all they need here is make a good team work if barangay ginebra will go for defenses a tight defense will be recommended. And in terms of offense all they need this that make the ball faster in rotate so that they can find their open teammates and fire for the free points.

They are not using him so much because Ginebra can easily make an adjustment and they love to run. This big man will make the play of the Bay Area slow and that will be taken advantage of the Ginebra especially on the fast break. He maybe so dominant in the center but with Ginebra good strategy on denying him the ball, he cannot be effective.

Their big (Liu) really is a monster on the paint because of his height, but the problem with that one is their pace will be slower once he's in the court. Like @Kelvinid said, Ginebra wants a fast-paced game and putting a big like him against the Ginebra will just be a disaster for the Dragons. Even the big players of Ginebra can run fast especially in transition offense.

This is also the reason why they are putting Nicholson as their center. At least with him on the center position, their pace is much faster.

I'll be on the Gin kings side this upcoming game 3, I believe that they will show good adjustment to win the game.

Basketball is a game of adjustments.
You lose, you will watch the whole game and then adjust. Right now, it's harder to know who will win in Game 3 TBH. I want to bet on Ginebra on this one, but the Dragons are also capable in defeating them. Ginebra will win if they will help Brownlee on offense because that's their problem in Game 2. No help from others offensively.

[Sanitough]

I'll be on the Gin kings side this upcoming game 3, I believe that they will show good adjustment to win the game.

Basketball is a game of adjustments.
You lose, you will watch the whole game and then adjust. Right now, it's harder to know who will win in Game 3 TBH. I want to bet on Ginebra on this one, but the Dragons are also capable in defeating them. Ginebra will win if they will help Brownlee on offense because that's their problem in Game 2. No help from others offensively.

Ginebra had a big win in game 1, so there's no need to doubt them in game 3. the series is still tied, regardless on how these teams have won or even the series. Yes, Ginebra could probably win game 3, but if they will lose, they still have game 4 to even the series, so just bet on this team and support them by cheering on them.

[Johnyz]

I'll be on the Gin kings side this upcoming game 3, I believe that they will show good adjustment to win the game.

Basketball is a game of adjustments.
You lose, you will watch the whole game and then adjust. Right now, it's harder to know who will win in Game 3 TBH. I want to bet on Ginebra on this one, but the Dragons are also capable in defeating them. Ginebra will win if they will help Brownlee on offense because that's their problem in Game 2. No help from others offensively.

Ginebra had a big win in game 1, so there's no need to doubt them in game 3. the series is still tied, regardless on how these teams have won or even the series. Yes, Ginebra could probably win game 3, but if they will lose, they still have game 4 to even the series, so just bet on this team and support them by cheering on them.

There should no be doubt with Ginebra, as they prove a lot of things already but in this finals many are hesitant simply because Ginebra is playing against a better team and that's the biggest challenge so far. Its hard to place a bet in game 3 but I think Bay Area have a better momentum here and probably they will take Game 3 while Ginebra will bounce back in game 4 like they always do, I'm placing some local bet for Bay Area in game 3, let's see if its a good decision or not.

[Russlenat]

Honestly,  I'll lost in game 2 it because I'll betting on ginebra and this upcoming game 3 I'll bet again for the ginebra team as I think that they can dominate again those opponent cause all they need is a tight defense and a good rotation of the ball then they will win. also I believe in local players who can contribute well in the game three. CStand and aguilar with brownlee can do good in the paint area and other local can contribute by shooting outside.

There's always a chance to bounce back, and that is in game 3. Thompson should be shooting well so they will be able to spread the floor very well, last game, it was only Brownlee who are shooting well, others seem lost because of the tight defense of the Bay Area.

Coach Tim is probably cooking something in game 3, and I want to see that surprise, so let's get on the home team and the underdog at the same time.

They need to lean on each other while inside the court, just like how they play the visiting team last game 1, they need to be a 2-way player when inside the court, both offense and defense should be working right for them, coach Tim needs to find ways to remind his squad to work and keep aiming for the win, Bay Area adjust well and Ginebra needs to answer a good counter with what the Dragon did last game 2.

I'll be on the Gin kings side this upcoming game 3, I believe that they will show good adjustment to win the game.

They need to help each other like what they did in game 1, that's the best recipe for the win. In game 2, they had the defense but they lack on the offense, Brownlee alone cannot carry the team because the Bay Area Dragon's import is also as good as him, or even better.

[ultrloa]

I'll be on the Gin kings side this upcoming game 3, I believe that they will show good adjustment to win the game.

Basketball is a game of adjustments.
You lose, you will watch the whole game and then adjust. Right now, it's harder to know who will win in Game 3 TBH. I want to bet on Ginebra on this one, but the Dragons are also capable in defeating them. Ginebra will win if they will help Brownlee on offense because that's their problem in Game 2. No help from others offensively.

Ginebra had a big win in game 1, so there's no need to doubt them in game 3. the series is still tied, regardless on how these teams have won or even the series. Yes, Ginebra could probably win game 3, but if they will lose, they still have game 4 to even the series, so just bet on this team and support them by cheering on them.

There should no be doubt with Ginebra, as they prove a lot of things already but in this finals many are hesitant simply because Ginebra is playing against a better team and that's the biggest challenge so far. Its hard to place a bet in game 3 but I think Bay Area have a better momentum here and probably they will take Game 3 while Ginebra will bounce back in game 4 like they always do, I'm placing some local bet for Bay Area in game 3, let's see if its a good decision or not.

Can't blame other people to think that ginebra will struggle with their current opponent since look at what Dragons do on the whole series they really put some good numbers to dominate their opponents. And many pba fans really see that one as basis to them that they are underdog on this match up. But I want the Ginebra to win since this will be a huge for filipino fans if they see Ginebra surpass a big challenge and win a championship this season.

[Japinat]

I'll be on the Gin kings side this upcoming game 3, I believe that they will show good adjustment to win the game.

Basketball is a game of adjustments.
You lose, you will watch the whole game and then adjust. Right now, it's harder to know who will win in Game 3 TBH. I want to bet on Ginebra on this one, but the Dragons are also capable in defeating them. Ginebra will win if they will help Brownlee on offense because that's their problem in Game 2. No help from others offensively.

Ginebra had a big win in game 1, so there's no need to doubt them in game 3. the series is still tied, regardless on how these teams have won or even the series. Yes, Ginebra could probably win game 3, but if they will lose, they still have game 4 to even the series, so just bet on this team and support them by cheering on them.

There should no be doubt with Ginebra, as they prove a lot of things already but in this finals many are hesitant simply because Ginebra is playing against a better team and that's the biggest challenge so far. Its hard to place a bet in game 3 but I think Bay Area have a better momentum here and probably they will take Game 3 while Ginebra will bounce back in game 4 like they always do, I'm placing some local bet for Bay Area in game 3, let's see if its a good decision or not.

Can't blame other people to think that ginebra will struggle with their current opponent since look at what Dragons do on the whole series they really put some good numbers to dominate their opponents. And many pba fans really see that one as basis to them that they are underdog on this match up. But I want the Ginebra to win since this will be a huge for filipino fans if they see Ginebra surpass a big challenge and win a championship this season.

This is the first time that we have a guest, it can't happen that we will lose in the Finals. Ginebra has a huge number of fans, imagine what will happen if they will lose this series. It's just like we are supping the Gilas Pilipinas against China is this series, so they really need to win. Also, we cannot eliminate the possibility that the referees will also do some dirty tactics to favor the ginebra, it's not new in this business.

[goaldigger]

This is the first time that we have a guest, it can't happen that we will lose in the Finals. Ginebra has a huge number of fans, imagine what will happen if they will lose this series. It's just like we are supping the Gilas Pilipinas against China is this series, so they really need to win. Also, we cannot eliminate the possibility that the referees will also do some dirty tactics to favor the ginebra, it's not new in this business.

Bay Area is not turning back though and they are not afraid, so the challenge here is really on the side of Ginebra.
There might be pressure from the fans but I hope Ginebra will start to compose themselves again and start to play well especially in game 3. Ginebra have to win on this finals to prove their supremacy in PBA but then again, there's no guarantee for this. This is the bad side of PBA, there is too much politics and yes even referees are not fair at all, so hopefully they will stay on the fair side even if Bay Area is on the lead.

[coinerer]

I'll be on the Gin kings side this upcoming game 3, I believe that they will show good adjustment to win the game.

Basketball is a game of adjustments.
You lose, you will watch the whole game and then adjust. Right now, it's harder to know who will win in Game 3 TBH. I want to bet on Ginebra on this one, but the Dragons are also capable in defeating them. Ginebra will win if they will help Brownlee on offense because that's their problem in Game 2. No help from others offensively.

Ginebra had a big win in game 1, so there's no need to doubt them in game 3. the series is still tied, regardless on how these teams have won or even the series. Yes, Ginebra could probably win game 3, but if they will lose, they still have game 4 to even the series, so just bet on this team and support them by cheering on them.

There should no be doubt with Ginebra, as they prove a lot of things already but in this finals many are hesitant simply because Ginebra is playing against a better team and that's the biggest challenge so far. Its hard to place a bet in game 3 but I think Bay Area have a better momentum here and probably they will take Game 3 while Ginebra will bounce back in game 4 like they always do, I'm placing some local bet for Bay Area in game 3, let's see if its a good decision or not.

Can't blame other people to think that ginebra will struggle with their current opponent since look at what Dragons do on the whole series they really put some good numbers to dominate their opponents. And many pba fans really see that one as basis to them that they are underdog on this match up. But I want the Ginebra to win since this will be a huge for filipino fans if they see Ginebra surpass a big challenge and win a championship this season.

This is the first time that we have a guest, it can't happen that we will lose in the Finals. Ginebra has a huge number of fans, imagine what will happen if they will lose this series. It's just like we are supping the Gilas Pilipinas against China is this series, so they really need to win. Also, we cannot eliminate the possibility that the referees will also do some dirty tactics to favor the ginebra, it's not new in this business.

I also support Ginebra.  And I like their game very much, I enjoy it and I hope they are able to play well. It is a common thing that referees often do many illegal activities due to the greed of money and sometimes they do illegal activities out of enmity without any money. So it's not impossible that this could happen to Ginebra as well. But it is a shame for the host if something like this happens

[Ziskinberg]

This is the first time that we have a guest, it can't happen that we will lose in the Finals. Ginebra has a huge number of fans, imagine what will happen if they will lose this series. It's just like we are supping the Gilas Pilipinas against China is this series, so they really need to win. Also, we cannot eliminate the possibility that the referees will also do some dirty tactics to favor the ginebra, it's not new in this business.

Bay Area is not turning back though and they are not afraid, so the challenge here is really on the side of Ginebra.
There might be pressure from the fans but I hope Ginebra will start to compose themselves again and start to play well especially in game 3. Ginebra have to win on this finals to prove their supremacy in PBA but then again, there's no guarantee for this. This is the bad side of PBA, there is too much politics and yes even referees are not fair at all, so hopefully they will stay on the fair side even if Bay Area is on the lead.

The challenge is on both teams because with this 1-1 record, it proved that both teams are capable of winning. The momentum now is on Bay Area, so we think that Ginebra is in trouble, but wait until Ginebra will win, views of the fans will also change.

[jakelyson]

Basketball is a game of adjustments.
You lose, you will watch the whole game and then adjust. Right now, it's harder to know who will win in Game 3 TBH. I want to bet on Ginebra on this one, but the Dragons are also capable in defeating them. Ginebra will win if they will help Brownlee on offense because that's their problem in Game 2. No help from others offensively.

The Gin Kings have a long time to find a way to counter the defense of Bay Area Dragon. The Next game is January 4, so they have more than a week since the last game to figure out their counter strategy. The locals had a hard time scoring because of the hassle of the defense of the Bay Area Dragons. If they can set up a counter to the defense of the Dragons, the locals will be able to help Brownlee on the offensive side.

The challenge is on both teams because with this 1-1 record, it proved that both teams are capable of winning. The momentum now is on Bay Area, so we think that Ginebra is in trouble, but wait until Ginebra will win, views of the fans will also change.

The momentum is on the side of Bay Area Dragon but since it was a long break before the next game, I think the momentum is nullified. There is no real momentum yet. And Ginebra is not yet in trouble. It is a tied series, so anyone can still win. As for the fans, we all know who most of them are rooting for.


It is less than two hours before the New Year. Just want to greet everyone here a Happy New Year!!!

[Sanitough]

I'll be on the Gin kings side this upcoming game 3, I believe that they will show good adjustment to win the game.

Basketball is a game of adjustments.
You lose, you will watch the whole game and then adjust. Right now, it's harder to know who will win in Game 3 TBH. I want to bet on Ginebra on this one, but the Dragons are also capable in defeating them. Ginebra will win if they will help Brownlee on offense because that's their problem in Game 2. No help from others offensively.

Ginebra had a big win in game 1, so there's no need to doubt them in game 3. the series is still tied, regardless on how these teams have won or even the series. Yes, Ginebra could probably win game 3, but if they will lose, they still have game 4 to even the series, so just bet on this team and support them by cheering on them.

There should no be doubt with Ginebra, as they prove a lot of things already but in this finals many are hesitant simply because Ginebra is playing against a better team and that's the biggest challenge so far. Its hard to place a bet in game 3 but I think Bay Area have a better momentum here and probably they will take Game 3 while Ginebra will bounce back in game 4 like they always do, I'm placing some local bet for Bay Area in game 3, let's see if its a good decision or not.

Hesitation is always part of gambling, it's normal. After the game 1 win of the Ginebra, we thought that they will just easily win the series because non only they beat the Bay Area in game 1 but they also beat them during the regular season, so it's 2-0, but after game 2, we are now losing our faith on Ginebra because they are outplayed in game 2, come on guys, it's just one game, the series is still tied.

[Yamifoud]

If you guys have trouble choosing the winner in game 3, then might as well try to bet on the total.

The last two games were low scoring game, so game 3 should be the same as this game is played with a very physical defense. IMO, the only chance the total will be over is when the game is close and it will went to overtime. However, for the sake of having fun, it's also nice if we bet on a certain team. 

Happy new year guys!