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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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November 02, 2023, 02:54:54 PM
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This was the comment of his coach before when he was still with the Converge.

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Ahanmisi is averaging a career-best 18.3 points on top of 6.5 rebounds and 2.8 assists in six games this season while coming off the bench.

We can't deny that he played really well during his time with Converge, especially when he was fully healthy. I think initially he was just on the bench, but as the season went on, he got a spot in the starting lineup. If Coach Tim Cone needs a go-to player, he can always pick him for the job. Over time, he'll fully adapt to the Gin Kings' system and their 'never say die' spirit.

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November 02, 2023, 03:04:16 PM
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This was the comment of his coach before when he was still with the Converge.

PBA: Maverick Ahanmisi playing his best basketball yet thanks to Aldin Ayo

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Ahanmisi is averaging a career-best 18.3 points on top of 6.5 rebounds and 2.8 assists in six games this season while coming off the bench.

We can't deny that he played really well during his time with Converge, especially when he was fully healthy. I think initially he was just on the bench, but as the season went on, he got a spot in the starting lineup. If Coach Tim Cone needs a go-to player, he can always pick him for the job. Over time, he'll fully adapt to the Gin Kings' system and their 'never say die' spirit.
The talent is there and with a proper training and exposure, I'm sure Ahanmisi can be better and be more reliable.
Being part of the Gin King's team is already a big honor and of course a big responsibility as a player since its a champion team.
Coach Tim Come sees a potential at him and I'm sure he can help the team even if he is not the starting line up, he'll catch up for sure.

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November 02, 2023, 03:33:22 PM
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Coach Tim Come sees a potential at him and I'm sure he can help the team even if he is not the starting line up, he'll catch up for sure.

If he is part of the second unit, it would make Ginebra more dangerous as they would continue their production. Maverick can provide quality minutes to the team. This is his third team; his first was with Alaska, and the second was with Converge, which is essentially the same team but with a different name after being purchased by Converge. However, they had a different coach. This is his third team.

I believe Converge wouldn't have let him go if he hadn't demanded a high salary. But we know SMB is a wealthy company, so they can afford to have Maverick on the Ginebra team.

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November 03, 2023, 01:43:11 PM
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I believe Converge wouldn't have let him go if he hadn't demanded a high salary. But we know SMB is a wealthy company, so they can afford to have Maverick on the Ginebra team.

That was the rumor. Perhaps Converge couldn't afford to pay big money to players because they are relatively new, even though they have taken over a team. A similar situation happened with Jeron Teng; he was released and has now signed with SMB. Interestingly, both Jeron and Maverick have signed with SMB management, but they are on different teams.

On the other hand, we have an unfortunate news for TNT, as it was reported that RHJ might miss the game opener due to illness.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/rondae-hollis-jefferson-illness-adds-to-tnt-problems-a2244-20231102?ref=home_featured_4



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November 03, 2023, 02:07:43 PM
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I believe Converge wouldn't have let him go if he hadn't demanded a high salary. But we know SMB is a wealthy company, so they can afford to have Maverick on the Ginebra team.

That was the rumor. Perhaps Converge couldn't afford to pay big money to players because they are relatively new, even though they have taken over a team. A similar situation happened with Jeron Teng; he was released and has now signed with SMB. Interestingly, both Jeron and Maverick have signed with SMB management, but they are on different teams.

On the other hand, we have an unfortunate news for TNT, as it was reported that RHJ might miss the game opener due to illness.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/rondae-hollis-jefferson-illness-adds-to-tnt-problems-a2244-20231102?ref=home_featured_4

Maybe yes and maybe it's part of the plan so no need for any trade negotiation to happen and will be a cause of a questionable request between converge and SMC corp. Letting those two stars who shows their competitiveness during the last converge campaign seems questionable to me not being granted for the said request, I mean that contract value, both are two players and can contribute good numbers, if Converge are aiming to be more competitive with me keeping the two said players can give them leadership that may give good chances to win games.

Just my two cents and I'm sure there are a lot of differences in terms of opinions and how we look at it, but nothing can be changed now. Both stars are now signed with the contract value that they request.

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November 03, 2023, 02:57:58 PM
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I believe Converge wouldn't have let him go if he hadn't demanded a high salary. But we know SMB is a wealthy company, so they can afford to have Maverick on the Ginebra team.

That was the rumor. Perhaps Converge couldn't afford to pay big money to players because they are relatively new, even though they have taken over a team. A similar situation happened with Jeron Teng; he was released and has now signed with SMB. Interestingly, both Jeron and Maverick have signed with SMB management, but they are on different teams.

On the other hand, we have an unfortunate news for TNT, as it was reported that RHJ might miss the game opener due to illness.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/rondae-hollis-jefferson-illness-adds-to-tnt-problems-a2244-20231102?ref=home_featured_4

Maybe yes and maybe it's part of the plan so no need for any trade negotiation to happen and will be a cause of a questionable request between converge and SMC corp. Letting those two stars who shows their competitiveness during the last converge campaign seems questionable to me not being granted for the said request, I mean that contract value, both are two players and can contribute good numbers, if Converge are aiming to be more competitive with me keeping the two said players can give them leadership that may give good chances to win games.

Just my two cents and I'm sure there are a lot of differences in terms of opinions and how we look at it, but nothing can be changed now. Both stars are now signed with the contract value that they request.

What can we expect from Converge this season? Will they tank or surprise us with strong performances? If they're letting go of their key players, they might end up like other teams that consistently perform poorly, such as Blackwater and Mahindra. Or perhaps, they could be acting as another farm team of SMB, which we might not be aware of as fans. This is unexpected since they're owned by a major telecom company, so I don't understand why they can't afford to keep players that could lead the team.

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November 03, 2023, 05:37:11 PM
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I believe Converge wouldn't have let him go if he hadn't demanded a high salary. But we know SMB is a wealthy company, so they can afford to have Maverick on the Ginebra team.

That was the rumor. Perhaps Converge couldn't afford to pay big money to players because they are relatively new, even though they have taken over a team. A similar situation happened with Jeron Teng; he was released and has now signed with SMB. Interestingly, both Jeron and Maverick have signed with SMB management, but they are on different teams.

On the other hand, we have an unfortunate news for TNT, as it was reported that RHJ might miss the game opener due to illness.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/rondae-hollis-jefferson-illness-adds-to-tnt-problems-a2244-20231102?ref=home_featured_4

Maybe yes and maybe it's part of the plan so no need for any trade negotiation to happen and will be a cause of a questionable request between converge and SMC corp. Letting those two stars who shows their competitiveness during the last converge campaign seems questionable to me not being granted for the said request, I mean that contract value, both are two players and can contribute good numbers, if Converge are aiming to be more competitive with me keeping the two said players can give them leadership that may give good chances to win games.

Just my two cents and I'm sure there are a lot of differences in terms of opinions and how we look at it, but nothing can be changed now. Both stars are now signed with the contract value that they request.

What can we expect from Converge this season? Will they tank or surprise us with strong performances? If they're letting go of their key players, they might end up like other teams that consistently perform poorly, such as Blackwater and Mahindra. Or perhaps, they could be acting as another farm team of SMB, which we might not be aware of as fans. This is unexpected since they're owned by a major telecom company, so I don't understand why they can't afford to keep players that could lead the team.

If we have that same sentiments which probably the chance of being another possible farm team for SMC is not by far, as you mentioned I don't believe that they can't afford to provide that amount which being ask by these two stars, both players are young and have a decent future if being surrounded by sets of role players.

If converge is really aiming for the ring, they have the chemistry already and they are showing good numbers last season, they just need additional role players and good import who can guide and lead them to win the game.

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November 04, 2023, 08:51:35 AM
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If converge is really aiming for the ring, they have the chemistry already and they are showing good numbers last season, they just need additional role players and good import who can guide and lead them to win the game.


They were winning games last season and had a good import, but there were coaching decisions that their import didn't follow as it seemed like he had to carry the team on his own and not sharing the ball much. This resulted in them missing the chance to make it to the quarterfinals. I'm not sure who their import is now, but losing Ahanmisi and Jeron Teng is certainly a significant setback for the team.

The new season is set to open tomorrow, so if you want to check out early odds, you should come back tonight. The season opener is between TNT and Magnolia, but it looks like TNT won't have an import for tomorrow's game.
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November 04, 2023, 10:10:59 AM
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On the other hand, we have an unfortunate news for TNT, as it was reported that RHJ might miss the game opener due to illness.

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Unfortunate news indeed for TNT as we all know the capability of RHJ but let's just hope that he would recover in time to finish the job which will be started by Quincy Miller, who is also a prolific import and could lead the team if needed just like what he did when he was with the Converge FibexXers.

So, the opening games would be tomorrow with Magnolia and TNT battling in the first game while Blackwater and Converge will fight it out in the second game.

No odds yet but I think it would be Magnolia and Converge will be the favorite in these games.
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So, the opening games would be tomorrow with Magnolia and TNT battling in the first game while Blackwater and Converge will fight it out in the second game.

No odds yet but I think it would be Magnolia and Converge will be the favorite in these games.

But according to their website (https://pba.ph/), there's only one game scheduled for tomorrow. Converge and Bossing are scheduled to play on November 8, 2023, which is a Wednesday, not a Sunday.

Now, regarding the betting odds for the game tomorrow, they should be available tonight or maybe a bit later. If the odds show TNT as the underdog, it might mean that RHJ won't be playing. You see, PBA doesn't provide updates as regularly as the NBA, so we have to pay attention to the betting odds.

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November 04, 2023, 12:12:49 PM
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So, the opening games would be tomorrow with Magnolia and TNT battling in the first game while Blackwater and Converge will fight it out in the second game.

No odds yet but I think it would be Magnolia and Converge will be the favorite in these games.

But according to their website (https://pba.ph/), there's only one game scheduled for tomorrow. Converge and Bossing are scheduled to play on November 8, 2023, which is a Wednesday, not a Sunday.

Now, regarding the betting odds for the game tomorrow, they should be available tonight or maybe a bit later. If the odds show TNT as the underdog, it might mean that RHJ won't be playing. You see, PBA doesn't provide updates as regularly as the NBA, so we have to pay attention to the betting odds.

It seems like we only have one game tomorrow because there's only one game with available betting odds at the moment. The odds are already out, and Magnolia is favored by -4.5 points. This suggests that the import might not play. I think it's a good idea to place that bet early because I have a feeling that the spread might go up.



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November 04, 2023, 12:38:41 PM
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So, the opening games would be tomorrow with Magnolia and TNT battling in the first game while Blackwater and Converge will fight it out in the second game.

No odds yet but I think it would be Magnolia and Converge will be the favorite in these games.

But according to their website (https://pba.ph/), there's only one game scheduled for tomorrow. Converge and Bossing are scheduled to play on November 8, 2023, which is a Wednesday, not a Sunday.

Now, regarding the betting odds for the game tomorrow, they should be available tonight or maybe a bit later. If the odds show TNT as the underdog, it might mean that RHJ won't be playing. You see, PBA doesn't provide updates as regularly as the NBA, so we have to pay attention to the betting odds.

It seems like we only have one game tomorrow because there's only one game with available betting odds at the moment. The odds are already out, and Magnolia is favored by -4.5 points. This suggests that the import might not play. I think it's a good idea to place that bet early because I have a feeling that the spread might go up.

I'm placing my bet early because Magnolia is a strong defensive team. Think about it, TNT won't have their import, and they're missing key players like Pogoy and Mikey Williams. How can they compete against a healthy Magnolia Hotshots team that's great at playing defense? I'm also betting on the under because I believe TNT will have a tough time scoring in this game.

The over/under is 196.5.
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November 05, 2023, 08:50:34 AM
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Wow, Junemar Fajardo just got his seventh MVP award in the PBA, just wondering if who's gonna break this record.

For me, he deserves this one and most likely he will capture his 8th because he is so disciplined on his body.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/june-mar-fajardo-wins-a-seventh-pba-mvp-award-a793-20231105?ref=home_feed_1
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November 05, 2023, 10:47:58 AM
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Wow, Junemar Fajardo just got his seventh MVP award in the PBA, just wondering if who's gonna break this record.

For me, he deserves this one and most likely he will capture his 8th because he is so disciplined on his body.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/june-mar-fajardo-wins-a-seventh-pba-mvp-award-a793-20231105?ref=home_feed_1

To be honest, I didn't expect him to win another MVP award, especially after his team's not-so-impressive performance last season. But it happened, so I guess even if Fajardo doesn't play as he did before, he can still dominate. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins another MVP now that he's fully healthy and confident after playing in the FIBA World Cup and Asian Cup. There might be no stopping him, and who knows, maybe we can start considering him in the conversation of being one of the greatest of all time (GOAT) in the PBA.

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November 05, 2023, 11:37:59 AM
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Wow, Junemar Fajardo just got his seventh MVP award in the PBA, just wondering if who's gonna break this record.

For me, he deserves this one and most likely he will capture his 8th because he is so disciplined on his body.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/june-mar-fajardo-wins-a-seventh-pba-mvp-award-a793-20231105?ref=home_feed_1

To be honest, I didn't expect him to win another MVP award, especially after his team's not-so-impressive performance last season. But it happened, so I guess even if Fajardo doesn't play as he did before, he can still dominate. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins another MVP now that he's fully healthy and confident after playing in the FIBA World Cup and Asian Cup. There might be no stopping him, and who knows, maybe we can start considering him in the conversation of being one of the greatest of all time (GOAT) in the PBA.

I was thinking how that happened I'm a Beermen fan but for me Scottie or CStand should have that award, not sure if how PBA score JMF to earn another MVP title just like you mentioned him and his team didn't performed that well last season and for me it was the Gin Kings though TNT snatch a title against them but the total performance I still giving my vote either with Scottie or CStand, hehe..

But moving forward, with the way JMF is playin during that last FIBA games it might be a quick with what we may expect from him this upcoming season, earning another MVP both season and finals MVP is not that far to happen.

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November 05, 2023, 12:01:01 PM
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Are you watching the game now? It seems like TNT is really feeling the loss of Pogoy and Mikey Williams, as they are currently trailing. Though I can say it's a close game now, since Castro isn't playing well, I think their import will be tired in the second half. I thought the high spread was overvalued, but there's a big chance that Magnolia will win this game and cover the spread. Anyway, I think I'm going to place a live bet after the first half since there's currently no live betting on my sportsbook.



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November 05, 2023, 12:13:11 PM
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Are you watching the game now? It seems like TNT is really feeling the loss of Pogoy and Mikey Williams, as they are currently trailing. Though I can say it's a close game now, since Castro isn't playing well, I think their import will be tired in the second half. I thought the high spread was overvalued, but there's a big chance that Magnolia will win this game and cover the spread. Anyway, I think I'm going to place a live bet after the first half since there's currently no live betting on my sportsbook.

Yes, it's tough to watch TNT trailing by a lot of points. They used to be a strong team, and it's surprising to see them losing by such a big difference. There's still the second half left, but if you believe they can make a comeback, TNT's moneyline might give you some appealing odds.

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November 05, 2023, 12:14:36 PM
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Wow, Junemar Fajardo just got his seventh MVP award in the PBA, just wondering if who's gonna break this record.

For me, he deserves this one and most likely he will capture his 8th because he is so disciplined on his body.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/june-mar-fajardo-wins-a-seventh-pba-mvp-award-a793-20231105?ref=home_feed_1

To be honest, I didn't expect him to win another MVP award, especially after his team's not-so-impressive performance last season. But it happened, so I guess even if Fajardo doesn't play as he did before, he can still dominate. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins another MVP now that he's fully healthy and confident after playing in the FIBA World Cup and Asian Cup. There might be no stopping him, and who knows, maybe we can start considering him in the conversation of being one of the greatest of all time (GOAT) in the PBA.

I was thinking how that happened I'm a Beermen fan but for me Scottie or CStand should have that award, not sure if how PBA score JMF to earn another MVP title just like you mentioned him and his team didn't performed that well last season and for me it was the Gin Kings though TNT snatch a title against them but the total performance I still giving my vote either with Scottie or CStand, hehe..

But moving forward, with the way JMF is playin during that last FIBA games it might be a quick with what we may expect from him this upcoming season, earning another MVP both season and finals MVP is not that far to happen.

Congrats Abay!

There are many criteria in winning an MVP award like statistical points on which Fajardo was the leader, players' votes, media vote. We know that Cstand is not so sociable with the media so may be that is one reason he did not covet this award.

In term of GOAT discussion, i do agree that JMF15 is the GOAT in the PBA because of the 7 MVP awards.
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November 05, 2023, 12:54:10 PM
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There are many criteria in winning an MVP award like statistical points on which Fajardo was the leader, players' votes, media vote. We know that Cstand is not so sociable with the media so may be that is one reason he did not covet this award.

In term of GOAT discussion, i do agree that JMF15 is the GOAT in the PBA because of the 7 MVP awards.

It's no surprise that JMF won because even though he's currently the best in the NBA, he's not a hated player because of his humility. Thanks for mentioning the criteria. I did a quick research and found out that a player's statistics for a specific season make up only 45% of the total criteria.

Here's the full criteria.

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The criteria used since the 2022–23 PBA season are as follows:[1]

45% average statistical points
30% press and media votes
25% players' votes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBA_Most_Valuable_Player_Award

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November 05, 2023, 01:10:11 PM
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Are you watching the game now? It seems like TNT is really feeling the loss of Pogoy and Mikey Williams, as they are currently trailing. Though I can say it's a close game now, since Castro isn't playing well, I think their import will be tired in the second half. I thought the high spread was overvalued, but there's a big chance that Magnolia will win this game and cover the spread. Anyway, I think I'm going to place a live bet after the first half since there's currently no live betting on my sportsbook.

Yes, it's tough to watch TNT trailing by a lot of points. They used to be a strong team, and it's surprising to see them losing by such a big difference. There's still the second half left, but if you believe they can make a comeback, TNT's moneyline might give you some appealing odds.

It's not over yet, there's still hope in the last quarter as TNT is only down by 8 points. Even if they don't win, they might at least cover the spread. Miller is the better import in this game, but I hope he doesn't run out of energy. Oftana is currently the top contributor among the local players. The PBA is a very unpredictable league, and a lot can happen in the last 12 minutes. So, let's enjoy watching the game. I thought it was going to be boring, but it turned out to be an entertaining matchup.

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