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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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November 15, 2023, 10:31:45 PM
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@Hypnosis00... I lost my entire bankroll in this game. Damn, SMB. I thought they'd have a strong debut as they are fresh, but they couldn't hold their big lead, so it's very disappointing. I might cool down for a while, Bro. Let's see what would come next while I'm refilling my bankroll.

I watched some videos today regarding the NLEX import, and I found out that he was an NBA 5th overall pick for the Sacramento Kings. So, that guy was really legit, but JMF gave him enough problems. Maybe SMB will do better next time. I'm waiting for their big bounce-back win. Anyway, congratulations to the winners. I saw some betting options before the game that would win you x50 (IIRC) if you bet on SMB/OVERTIME. I missed that one, though.

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November 15, 2023, 11:31:00 PM
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It's funny that Mikey Williams is breaking his silence and tells all of the rumors that has been said against him are not true. He's not asking for a fee when he's being asked to play for the Gilas but why he did declined it, right? Everyone has their own sides and this time, his team is asking for a 2.4M pesos monthly from TNT to play. That's a huge payday for him if he's going to be allowed to do that but isn't he cut already and terminated? That's more than the maximum salary allowed by the PBA management. These players are asking a lot and it's always goes under the table bu with such asking salary, will there be a team willing to take him with that asking price?

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November 16, 2023, 02:29:55 AM
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It's funny that Mikey Williams is breaking his silence and tells all of the rumors that has been said against him are not true. He's not asking for a fee when he's being asked to play for the Gilas but why he did declined it, right? Everyone has their own sides and this time, ....
It's the management against him; he can't expect that people will believe in him. But it's good that he didn't keep silent on this issue. At least we know his side, and we can think more clearly about which side to believe. But it's already done, and Gilas already won a championship. It might be different if he did play, so that's a blessing in disguise.

his team is asking for a 2.4M pesos monthly from TNT to play. That's a huge payday for him if he's going to be allowed to do that but isn't he cut already and terminated? That's more than the maximum salary allowed by the PBA management. These players are asking a lot and it's always goes under the table bu with such asking salary, will there be a team willing to take him with that asking price?

That's too much to ask. I think JuneMar Fajardo's monthly salary is just around 1 million pesos per month, so does he think he's better than the 6-time MVP?

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November 16, 2023, 05:39:24 AM
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It's funny that Mikey Williams is breaking his silence and tells all of the rumors that has been said against him are not true. He's not asking for a fee when he's being asked to play for the Gilas but why he did declined it, right? Everyone has their own sides and this time, ....
It's the management against him; he can't expect that people will believe in him. But it's good that he didn't keep silent on this issue. At least we know his side, and we can think more clearly about which side to believe. But it's already done, and Gilas already won a championship. It might be different if he did play, so that's a blessing in disguise.
Yeah, what's done is done and now the thing is about his comeback to TNT.

his team is asking for a 2.4M pesos monthly from TNT to play. That's a huge payday for him if he's going to be allowed to do that but isn't he cut already and terminated? That's more than the maximum salary allowed by the PBA management. These players are asking a lot and it's always goes under the table bu with such asking salary, will there be a team willing to take him with that asking price?

That's too much to ask. I think JuneMar Fajardo's monthly salary is just around 1 million pesos per month, so does he think he's better than the 6-time MVP?
Maybe, he thinks that he's better with that offer. I guess it became a trend when Ahanmisi started it out with the Converge and then next with Teng and now him. I don't know but the PBA management should also increase the salary cap because AFAIK, it's just 420k. With such demands and teams that can pay such amounts to their best players, they should give that a consideration.

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November 16, 2023, 05:45:43 AM
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Speaking of Terrence Romeo, wow, he's hot in the first half with 19 points and have not missed from the rainbow country, 4 out of 4.


SMB will win this game easy, Romeo at the first half already made a huge contribution and it seems like he is now fully healthy, the TR47 is back!

So without JB for Ginebra, this team is really the team to beat, if NLEX would not be able to come back in the 2nd half, I'm afraid that SMB will win by a huge margin and the spread of -6.5 will be easily covered. 55% from 3 point line so far for SMB in the first half, let's see if Romeo would continue his hot shooting, you know it's hard to stop him once he build his confidence as he is a streaky shooter.

This was my prediction after the first half, but it turns out I was wrong. Sad

NLEX did not give up on the game, despite trailing by a huge margin. They worked really hard to get back in the game, especially their import, who you could already tell was exhausted but still kept playing. Classic game! That's the kind of game we want to see as PBA fans. Although I lost my bet on this, I don't feel bad, as I was enjoying the whole time watching the game.

By the way, have you noticed that "SMART Live streaming" is so delayed? Good thing we have some alternatives from other streams (though illegal).

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November 16, 2023, 12:25:21 PM
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By the way, have you noticed that "SMART Live streaming" is so delayed? Good thing we have some alternatives from other streams (though illegal).

You can't rely on their streams, especially if you are betting live, as you won't get the right timing of the bet since their live streaming is a delayed telecast. It's better to watch on your local channel or, as you've mentioned, watch on illegal streams as they get their feed from the local channel.

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November 16, 2023, 06:16:23 PM
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Speaking of Terrence Romeo, wow, he's hot in the first half with 19 points and have not missed from the rainbow country, 4 out of 4.


SMB will win this game easy, Romeo at the first half already made a huge contribution and it seems like he is now fully healthy, the TR47 is back!

So without JB for Ginebra, this team is really the team to beat, if NLEX would not be able to come back in the 2nd half, I'm afraid that SMB will win by a huge margin and the spread of -6.5 will be easily covered. 55% from 3 point line so far for SMB in the first half, let's see if Romeo would continue his hot shooting, you know it's hard to stop him once he build his confidence as he is a streaky shooter.

This was my prediction after the first half, but it turns out I was wrong. Sad

NLEX did not give up on the game, despite trailing by a huge margin. They worked really hard to get back in the game, especially their import, who you could already tell was exhausted but still kept playing. Classic game! That's the kind of game we want to see as PBA fans. Although I lost my bet on this, I don't feel bad, as I was enjoying the whole time watching the game.

By the way, have you noticed that "SMART Live streaming" is so delayed? Good thing we have some alternatives from other streams (though illegal).

I think most of us got suprise with what happened on that game, I'm also assuming that it was an easy game for the beermen but it's the heart of the fighting NLEX that gives them the win, I'm just happy to see TR7 is back and with how the announcer highligting his name, I think as a fan it's really a music in my ears, though they've let NLEX snatch the game but it's PBA right? we really can't conclude who\'s going to win till the final buzzer.

Congrats to those who place bets for NLX both ML and Handicap, that's something sweet for the ML as the last time I checked it was more than 2.5 not sure but as an underdog the odd is really good for them.

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November 17, 2023, 05:09:36 AM
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It was a thrilling game, but the bettors ended up feeling let down in the end.

Anyway, we've got two games today. Maybe we can bounce back from our losses if we double down, hehe.

The first game is Magnolia vs. Northport, and the second game is Ginebra vs. Converge. Let's check if this Ginebra team is still super risky, even without Brownlee. For the favorites, we have the spreads and odds  below.

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November 17, 2023, 06:55:37 AM
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It was a thrilling game, but the bettors ended up feeling let down in the end.

Anyway, we've got two games today. Maybe we can bounce back from our losses if we double down, hehe.

The first game is Magnolia vs. Northport, and the second game is Ginebra vs. Converge. Let's check if this Ginebra team is still super risky, even without Brownlee. For the favorites, we have the spreads and odds  below.

Hotshots -8.5
Ginebra -7.5

I'd lean towards the hotshots, but I'm a bit unsure about how Ginebra will perform. Since it's their first game, they might be a bit rusty, similar to what happened with SMB when they couldn't maintain their big lead. Plus, Ginebra has a new import, so it's smart to wait and see if he'll click with his teammates.

I might go for the under on the total (haven't checked it yet) because I think they'll stick to their defensive style – that's just their nature.

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November 17, 2023, 07:52:28 AM
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It was a thrilling game, but the bettors ended up feeling let down in the end.

Anyway, we've got two games today. Maybe we can bounce back from our losses if we double down, hehe.

The first game is Magnolia vs. Northport, and the second game is Ginebra vs. Converge. Let's check if this Ginebra team is still super risky, even without Brownlee. For the favorites, we have the spreads and odds  below.

Hotshots -8.5
Ginebra -7.5

I'd lean towards the hotshots, but I'm a bit unsure about how Ginebra will perform. Since it's their first game, they might be a bit rusty, similar to what happened with SMB when they couldn't maintain their big lead. Plus, Ginebra has a new import, so it's smart to wait and see if he'll click with his teammates.

I might go for the under on the total (haven't checked it yet) because I think they'll stick to their defensive style – that's just their nature.


The Hotshots have been winning games dominantly, so covering the high spread shouldn't be a problem. The game kicks off in 10 minutes, so we should get that bet ready. Personally, I'll wait for the game to go live and do some betting. Last time, they only really picked up steam in the second half, so I might hold off until the first half is over, hoping that Magnolia will be trailing by points. I can then make a bet with a better spread and odds.

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November 17, 2023, 11:24:42 AM
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The Hotshots have been winning games dominantly, so covering the high spread shouldn't be a problem. The game kicks off in 10 minutes, so we should get that bet ready. Personally, I'll wait for the game to go live and do some betting. Last time, they only really picked up steam in the second half, so I might hold off until the first half is over, hoping that Magnolia will be trailing by points. I can then make a bet with a better spread and odds.

I hope you have placed your bet before the game started mate. Magnolia blew NorthPort starting from the first quarter, the lead balloon to as high as 20 points, hard to place bets when you favor Magnolia on that stage of the game. Magnolia haven't lose a game yet since that mini tourney, they been on a 14-game winning streak if i'm not wrong.

I'm just lucky that my bet on "under 208.5" win as Magnolia and NorthPort's average is more than a 100 but fortunately, NorthPort had a bad night tonight.



On the second game tonight, i have Converge -8.5 @1.90 vs Ginebra. First game of the Kings, might have problem with chemistry.
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November 17, 2023, 11:59:57 AM
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I'd lean towards the hotshots, but I'm a bit unsure about how Ginebra will perform.

That game was an easy win, with Magnolia just being Magnolia and beating Northport with a final score of 112-74. It almost looked like Team USA vs. Philippines, LOL. But seriously, congrats, that was a breeze.

Are you thinking of betting on the next game? Maybe you'll change your mind now that you've already secured a win.

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November 17, 2023, 01:11:32 PM
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The Hotshots have been winning games dominantly, so covering the high spread shouldn't be a problem. The game kicks off in 10 minutes, so we should get that bet ready. Personally, I'll wait for the game to go live and do some betting. Last time, they only really picked up steam in the second half, so I might hold off until the first half is over, hoping that Magnolia will be trailing by points. I can then make a bet with a better spread and odds.

I hope you have placed your bet before the game started mate. Magnolia blew NorthPort starting from the first quarter, the lead balloon to as high as 20 points, hard to place bets when you favor Magnolia on that stage of the game. Magnolia haven't lose a game yet since that mini tourney, they been on a 14-game winning streak if i'm not wrong.

I'm just lucky that my bet on "under 208.5" win as Magnolia and NorthPort's average is more than a 100 but fortunately, NorthPort had a bad night tonight.




First off, thank you for the congratulations on the win. As for my bet, I couldn't pull the trigger since they were dominating early. I couldn't find good value with the high spread, and I was looking for the opposite. Maybe it's just not my time yet, but I'm still happy that my prediction turned out to be correct.

On the second game tonight, i have Converge -8.5 @1.90 vs Ginebra. First game of the Kings, might have problem with chemistry.

Good luck with that! The game seems to be a close one, with Ginebra only leading by 2 points now. But it's still too early to worry, as Ginebra could have a big run at any time, and before you know it, they might beat their opponent by a huge margin.

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November 17, 2023, 01:25:03 PM
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On the second game tonight, i have Converge -8.5 @1.90 vs Ginebra. First game of the Kings, might have problem with chemistry.

Good luck with that! The game seems to be a close one, with Ginebra only leading by 2 points now. But it's still too early to worry, as Ginebra could have a big run at any time, and before you know it, they might beat their opponent by a huge margin.

Is that a typo error by @bisdak40? Is it Converge +8.5 or Ginebra -8.5? Currently, on the live betting odds, I see Ginebra at -8.5 with 1.72 odds. It seems the bookies are still trusting them to win and cover the spread. Let's see how it plays out, but I'm curious to know what @bisdak40's actual bet is. Grin

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November 17, 2023, 06:59:40 PM
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I'd lean towards the hotshots, but I'm a bit unsure about how Ginebra will perform.

That game was an easy win, with Magnolia just being Magnolia and beating Northport with a final score of 112-74. It almost looked like Team USA vs. Philippines, LOL. But seriously, congrats, that was a breeze.

Are you thinking of betting on the next game? Maybe you'll change your mind now that you've already secured a win.

A complete domination from the hotshots, winning the game with those huge margins, I'm expecting to see something from NP since they are performing really well, but like what you just mentioned Magnolia just play the game the usual way with a dominating outcome, they move to 3-0 while NP suffer their first defeat moving their standing to 2-1.

Gin kings manage to win their debut playing like they've got two imports, CStand delivers 25 points while Bishop leads the scoring with 34, congrats brgy supporters both handicap and ML gives a decent  win!

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November 18, 2023, 10:46:55 AM
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On the second game tonight, i have Converge -8.5 @1.90 vs Ginebra. First game of the Kings, might have problem with chemistry.

Good luck with that! The game seems to be a close one, with Ginebra only leading by 2 points now. But it's still too early to worry, as Ginebra could have a big run at any time, and before you know it, they might beat their opponent by a huge margin.

Is that a typo error by @bisdak40? Is it Converge +8.5 or Ginebra -8.5? Currently, on the live betting odds, I see Ginebra at -8.5 with 1.72 odds. It seems the bookies are still trusting them to win and cover the spread. Let's see how it plays out, but I'm curious to know what @bisdak40's actual bet is. Grin

That was a typo error and i lost my bet on that one  Sad. Looking at the first half, i thought that Converge would win the game or at least cover the spread as they were hitting 3's like the Warriors but the defense of the Kings has taken its toll on them in the second half. No one on the Converge team could guard Cstand and Bishop, that was what killed them on the paint.

Making a live bet now for the ROS vs Phoenix game, got ROS +11.5 @1.75. Hope the wards of coach Yeng could catch up the Fuel Masters in the second half.

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November 18, 2023, 12:21:20 PM
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That ROS vs. Phoenix game was a thriller! Do you happen to know the betting odds for it? The ending was intense, especially that last-second sequence. Phoenix got lucky grabbing the ball after Perkins missed the 3-point attempt. They scrambled, and with only 1 second left, ROS fouled Phoenix's import. If ROS had snagged that rebound, who knows, the outcome might have been different. Whatta game!!!!

Import vs Import production, the win goes to the Phoenix.

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November 18, 2023, 01:31:06 PM
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That ROS vs. Phoenix game was a thriller! Do you happen to know the betting odds for it? The ending was intense, especially that last-second sequence. Phoenix got lucky grabbing the ball after Perkins missed the 3-point attempt. They scrambled, and with only 1 second left, ROS fouled Phoenix's import. If ROS had snagged that rebound, who knows, the outcome might have been different. Whatta game!!!!

Import vs Import production, the win goes to the Phoenix.

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That game was a real entertainer. It looks like Coach Yeng's return to his old team might not be a smooth ride. The team has undergone changes, and it's unclear whether his coaching style has kept pace with the new dynamics. With three losses already this season, ROS is yet to secure a win, posing a significant challenge for Coach Yeng in steering the team towards qualifying the quarterfinals.

On another note, Converge is also facing a tough start at 0-3.

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November 18, 2023, 01:37:37 PM
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That ROS vs. Phoenix game was a thriller! Do you happen to know the betting odds for it? The ending was intense, especially that last-second sequence. Phoenix got lucky grabbing the ball after Perkins missed the 3-point attempt. They scrambled, and with only 1 second left, ROS fouled Phoenix's import. If ROS had snagged that rebound, who knows, the outcome might have been different. Whatta game!!!!

Import vs Import production, the win goes to the Phoenix.

Williams 29 points
Summers 15 points

That game was a real entertainer. It looks like Coach Yeng's return to his old team might not be a smooth ride. The team has undergone changes, and it's unclear whether his coaching style has kept pace with the new dynamics. With three losses already this season, ROS is yet to secure a win, posing a significant challenge for Coach Yeng in steering the team towards qualifying the quarterfinals.

On another note, Converge is also facing a tough start at 0-3.
That was a solid game unfortunately it didn't favor ROS despite of them playing a good game.
This is a process, and coach Yang should start adjusting because his old strategy might not be applicable anymore, that 0-3 start record is not good at all, if they really want to advanced to the next round then they should start doing something because they will face bigger teams on their next game.
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November 18, 2023, 02:01:39 PM
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That ROS vs. Phoenix game was a thriller! Do you happen to know the betting odds for it? The ending was intense, especially that last-second sequence. Phoenix got lucky grabbing the ball after Perkins missed the 3-point attempt. They scrambled, and with only 1 second left, ROS fouled Phoenix's import. If ROS had snagged that rebound, who knows, the outcome might have been different. Whatta game!!!!

Import vs Import production, the win goes to the Phoenix.

Williams 29 points
Summers 15 points

That game was a real entertainer. It looks like Coach Yeng's return to his old team might not be a smooth ride. The team has undergone changes, and it's unclear whether his coaching style has kept pace with the new dynamics. With three losses already this season, ROS is yet to secure a win, posing a significant challenge for Coach Yeng in steering the team towards qualifying the quarterfinals.

On another note, Converge is also facing a tough start at 0-3.
That was a solid game unfortunately it didn't favor ROS despite of them playing a good game.
This is a process, and coach Yang should start adjusting because his old strategy might not be applicable anymore, that 0-3 start record is not good at all, if they really want to advanced to the next round then they should start doing something because they will face bigger teams on their next game.

It seems like the import had an off night. Despite being on a three-game losing streak, Summers showed some promising performances in the last two games, scoring 32 points against Northport and 27 points against the Meralco Bolts. Hopefully, there will be more opportunities in the future, and when they start winning, it will be a more consistent trend.

Looking ahead, they have some tough matchups in the next two games, facing Ginebra first and then SMB. The losing streak might increase as it's unlikely they'll win against these two teams which are stronger than the teams that have beaten them.

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