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August 10, 2014, 04:29:55 PM
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Fighters from punitive battalion Azov have been liquidated near Ivajlovsk:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407680276

A column of Kiev punitive forces has been destroyed this night, including about 20 vehicles, 3 tanks:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407680498

Video of the consequence of this morning's shelling of Donetsk:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407681640

Ljashko suggest Kiev does not rebuild cities, whose residents will be suspected in sympathising with the resistance (and a lot of other things):
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407677255

And Kiev has other things to think about:

Hungarian and Rusin communities in the West-Ukraine unite in their fight for federalisation:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407670133

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August 10, 2014, 04:50:49 PM
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The West on the wrong path

08.08.2014, 13:53 Uhr
In view of the events in Ukraine, the government and many media have switched from level-headed to agitated. The spectrum of opinions has been narrowed to the width of a sniper scope. The politics of escalation does not have a realistic goal – and harms German interests.

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EN: http://www.handelsblatt.com/meinung/kommentare/essay-in-englisch-the-west-on-the-wrong-path/10308406.html
DE: http://www.handelsblatt.com/meinung/kommentare/politik-der-eskalation-der-irrweg-des-westens-/10308844.html
RU: http://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/international/essay-in-russisch-/10309542.html
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August 10, 2014, 09:17:25 PM
Last edit: August 10, 2014, 09:37:18 PM by Paya
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Seems like the rebels are starting to get their asses kicked

Donetsk Republic is separated from Luhansk and there is a strong and aggressive Ukrainian battlegroup in strategically vital triangle Krasnii Luch-Ivanovka-Antratsit, so yeah rebels are in critical position. Anything can happen in this week: from the total collapse of organized resistance, to another encirclement of Ukrainian units followed by their heavy losses and surrender or evacuation. Latter wouldn't happen for the first time - Ukrainians tend to forget about securing flanks and rear when their tank columns strike deep into the enemy territory.

All in all, I wouldn't write off rebels yet. But I agree that odds are against them: they are overstreched and vastly outnumbered both in terms of manpower and armor.
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August 11, 2014, 10:45:20 AM
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Stepanivka completely destroyed by Russian ‘Grad’ rockets




2014/08/11 • War in Donbas

The village of Stepanivka was completely destroyed by rocket salvos originating from beyond the Russian border, reported the press center of the Anti-Terrorist Operation (ATO).

Stepanivka, in Donetsk oblast, is located roughly 9km from the border. Grad rockets have a launching distance of up to 40km.



http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/08/11/stepanivka-completely-destroyed-by-russian-grad-rockets/

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August 11, 2014, 12:42:32 PM
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Scene from Izvarino. Civilians fleeing to the Russian side of the border. The picture was published in a pro-Kiev source a few hours ago. The number of refugees who have crossed over to Russia approaching the 1 million mark.

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Scene from Izvarino. Civilians fleeing to the Russian side of the border. The picture was published in a pro-Kiev source a few hours ago. The number of refugees who have crossed over to Russia approaching the 1 million mark.



And that's not all. Kiev now officially orders the citizens of Donetsk and Lugansk to abandon cities before a large-scale offensive by Ukrainian occupational forces.
http://ria.ru/world/20140811/1019630684.html

In the meantime, Russia tries to offer at least some humanitarian help, and is sending humanitarian aid to Ukraine under the emblem of Red Cross:
http://itar-tass.com/politika/1373736?utm_medium=rss20

EU is not amused and say that Russia best not try to give military help under the guise of the humanitarian aid (all the while EU and NATO helps the Nazis):
http://ria.ru/world/20140811/1019638183.html
Barrozu also urged Russia to apply pressure so that the civilians would be able to flee the conflict zone. (Read all those millions must be displaces from their homeland to make space for whatever plans the EU has for that land)

Poroshenko will meet his handler, Obama, during NATO summit in Wales on the 4-5th of September. But already during the telephone conversation on Monday, Obama extended his support of Poroshenko's actions (presumably in creating the humanitarian disaster in Novorossia, samotaging EU, killing, people, shelling them with artillery and phosphorus bombs - all in accordance to the highest American standards of democracy):
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/08/11/n_6386733.shtml

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August 11, 2014, 08:28:50 PM
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This ruSSian "humanitarian mission" is a coverup operation to deliver military supplies and ammunition to terrorists in Donetsk and Lugansk. A similar operation under the Red Cross flags was carried out in 1992, when Shoygu led the Russian convoy to Abkhazia. After that, the Abkhasian separatists had practically no problems with ammunition including artillery shells.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X72AmOyFN-M&feature=youtu.be

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August 11, 2014, 08:38:52 PM
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Festival amid death - Kiev holds a Holi colour celebration, while people in Donetsk die. Photo report with alternating images:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407787751

Statement from the Cabinet of Ministers of Donetsk: Kiev breaks Geneve conventions, for example, by not making any difference between combatant and civilian population:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407785697

Bill 2277 is about to be signed by Obama: Poroshenko thanks him personally for it:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407783466

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August 11, 2014, 09:04:44 PM
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1968, Prag, ruSSians just had no time to paint this  "humanitarian mission" tanks white


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August 11, 2014, 09:17:40 PM
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http://dnr.today/

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http://cyber-berkut.org/

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August 12, 2014, 08:24:28 AM
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This ruSSian "humanitarian mission" is a coverup operation to deliver military supplies and ammunition to terrorists in Donetsk and Lugansk. A similar operation under the Red Cross flags was carried out in 1992, when Shoygu led the Russian convoy to Abkhazia. After that, the Abkhasian separatists had practically no problems with ammunition including artillery shells.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X72AmOyFN-M&feature=youtu.be

The situation for Russian killers is getting worse. Here is the newest map: http://mediarnbo.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/11-08-eng1.jpg

That's why Putin is becoming nervous and wants to get "humanitarian mission" in Ukraine, although nobody is asking them for that. But he goes on. Why? Hmm.. let's think about it.
- unarmed humanitarian mission is crossing the border
- of course Ukrainian army won't shoot unarmed people, BUT
- Russian saboteurs will (and they will pretend as Ukrainian soldiers, as they are doing it all the time shooting civilians),
- and it would be a "good reason" for intervention

Let's pray, that I'am wrong..
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August 12, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
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In the meantime, Russia tries to offer at least some humanitarian help, and is sending humanitarian aid to Ukraine under the emblem of Red Cross:
http://itar-tass.com/politika/1373736?utm_medium=rss20

And Kiev says no to humanitarian aid. People must die! No one is allowed to survive. Genocide must go one, as ordered by Washington. Mwa-ha-ha....

Kiev: Russia's humanitarian convoy will not be allowed into Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/179740-humanitarian-aid-russia-ukraine/

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Kiev intends to hold up the internationally-supervised Russian humanitarian aid convoy meant for East Ukraine for at least a week, a spokesman for the Ukrainian military said.

Ukraine said the time is needed for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), which is contributing to the Moscow-initiated mission, to establish where the aid should go in the Ukrainian region engulfed by civil war.

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Earlier, Moscow said that the humanitarian mission had been agreed by all parties concerned.

Russia has sent some 2,000 tons of aid to Ukraine, including food, medicine, sleeping bags and power generators.

The cargo is meant for the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, which have seriously suffered in more than three months of warfare, as Ukrainian troops used heavy artillery, bomber aircraft and tanks to advance on cities controlled by the militias.

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August 12, 2014, 11:59:20 AM
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In the meantime, Russia tries to offer at least some humanitarian help, and is sending humanitarian aid to Ukraine under the emblem of Red Cross:
http://itar-tass.com/politika/1373736?utm_medium=rss20

And Kiev says no to humanitarian aid. People must die! No one is allowed to survive. Genocide must go one, as ordered by Washington. Mwa-ha-ha....

Kiev: Russia's humanitarian convoy will not be allowed into Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/179740-humanitarian-aid-russia-ukraine/

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Kiev intends to hold up the internationally-supervised Russian humanitarian aid convoy meant for East Ukraine for at least a week, a spokesman for the Ukrainian military said.

Ukraine said the time is needed for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), which is contributing to the Moscow-initiated mission, to establish where the aid should go in the Ukrainian region engulfed by civil war.

They just want their tips and "rollbacks" (don't know if this is the correct term for what I mean)... Roll Eyes

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August 12, 2014, 12:27:54 PM
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They just want their tips and "rollbacks" (don't know if this is the correct term for what I mean)... Roll Eyes

You meant "backhanding" as in "bribes".

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August 12, 2014, 12:56:55 PM
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Turns out ruSSia is nicely functioning on its own, not informing the Red Cross about what it is sending as "humanitarian aid" and as a result the Red Cross needs to run after them to find out what and how.
The typical behaviour of an arrogant rogue state who uses international organisations and terminology just to cover up its double-standared activities. Nothing new, just like in soviet times.

http://inforesist.org/putin-so-svoim-gumanitarnym-konvoem-okonchatelno-zaputal-krasnyj-krest/

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August 12, 2014, 01:05:15 PM
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They just want their tips and "rollbacks" (don't know if this is the correct term for what I mean)... Roll Eyes

You meant "backhanding" as in "bribes".

Okay, will try to memorize the term! So, I guess, the Ukrainian authorities want bribes and some backhanding to let the humanitarian aid in... Grin

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Turns out ruSSia is nicely functioning on its own, not informing the Red Cross about what it is sending as "humanitarian aid" and as a result the Red Cross needs to run after them to find out what and how.
The typical behaviour of an arrogant rogue state who uses international organisations and terminology just to cover up its double-standared activities. Nothing new, just like in soviet times.

http://inforesist.org/putin-so-svoim-gumanitarnym-konvoem-okonchatelno-zaputal-krasnyj-krest/

Have you not got tired yourself of your own propaganda (or what is on your agenda right now)? Your words sound false ("arrogant rogue state", lol)... Roll Eyes

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August 12, 2014, 02:03:08 PM
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ICRC ‏@ICRC We've been told by Russian authorities that an aid convoy is heading to #Ukraine border. We're not in charge of this convoy at the moment.

ICRC Andre Loersch, via Deutsche Welle & The Interpreter): [...] we tried to get a concrete list from the Russian authorities of what they are providing as humanitarian aid, be it medicine, food or other things.

However, we have not received this list so far. This is why we are so surprised to learn that the humanitarian aid convoy has none-the-less set out from Russia.

These reports have completely confused us: now we need to work out what is happening ourselves. So many different reports are coming in from the Russian media that it's hard for us to find a common denominator.

Head of Russian Red Cross says that the Russian "humanitarian" convoy has left without any of his aid workers on @EchoMskRu.


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August 12, 2014, 07:21:24 PM
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Proved by the OSCE. Malaysian Boeing hit by Ukrainian troops. Specifically, a rocket from the airplane "air-to-air" and finished off their onboard cannon. That's how the Nazis killed, not innocent people.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxLyoRqXGU4

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