Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

Quote from: chopstick on August 15, 2014, 02:52:07 PM

Quote from: niothor on August 15, 2014, 01:28:29 PM

If i would even for a moment think of adding all the tanks trucks soldiers the so called dnr killed and destroyed I would probably get more tanks destroyed than in the whole ww2.

And still .. so little actual footage. of that.
I'm still waiting for the pictures of the so called 4000 Ukrainian soldiers killed in the southern pocket.

https://twitter.com/BradCabana/status/498109573405089792

3500 ukraine soldiers officially listed as "Missing in Action" from the southern cauldron.

Lolz.

Cannon fodder sent to their deaths for no reason other than to further western political and economic interests.

So your proof is a tweet?
I can tweet that japan invaded Mars also.

Quote from: niothor on August 15, 2014, 02:59:07 PM

So your proof is a tweet?
I can tweet that japan invaded Mars also.

I'm pretty sure Mars invaded Japan.

Quote from: niothor on August 15, 2014, 02:59:07 PM

Quote from: chopstick on August 15, 2014, 02:52:07 PM

Quote from: niothor on August 15, 2014, 01:28:29 PM

So your proof is a tweet?
I can tweet that japan invaded Mars also.

It was a statement from their ministry of defense. Of course the UKR military is not going to admit they truly lost 3500+ soldiers in one battle. Their official death toll is still far below that.

In other news, Ukraine just reported that they destroyed a part of the invading Russian convoy. Stocks are dropping sharply everywhere on this news.

Captured Ukrainian team planned attack on Russian humanitarian aid convoy

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/745236

Acemarketu.com ‏@acemarketu 1m
#Russia: #Ukraine Forces May Be Planning to Mine Road to #Luhansk

So much for that humanitarian aid.

Quote from: chopstick on August 15, 2014, 03:05:10 PM

Quote from: niothor on August 15, 2014, 02:59:07 PM

Quote from: chopstick on August 15, 2014, 02:52:07 PM

Quote from: niothor on August 15, 2014, 01:28:29 PM

So your proof is a tweet?
I can tweet that japan invaded Mars also.

It was a statement from their ministry of defense. Of course the UKR military is not going to admit they truly lost 3500+ soldiers in one battle. Their official death toll is still far below that.

In other news, Ukraine just reported that they destroyed a part of the invading Russian convoy. Stocks are dropping sharply everywhere on this news.

Link to the statement then , not to an anonymous tweet.

Things are escalating. Stocks are dropping.

zerohedge @zerohedge · 18 seg

RUSSIA: UKRAINE FORCES MAY BE PLANNING TO MINE ROAD TO LUHANSK

zerohedge @zerohedge · 30 seg

RUSSIA SAYS IT'S GETTING INFO OF DIRECT THREATS TO CONVOY: BBG

Quote from: chopstick on August 15, 2014, 03:08:01 PM

0h .. itar-tass

http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1287030

rebels have a buk

http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1325289

rebels don't have a buk

Jack Stubbs ‏@jc_stubbs 1m
#Russia foreign ministry says Ukrainian forces engaging in intense fighting to stop humanitarian aid reaching east #Ukraine

ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 1 min

There are #rumors since 2 hours of direct battles between Rus and Ukr troops in eastern Luhansk.
But I can't confirm,so we should keep calm

Russian Market @russian_market · 21 seg

DAX down 236 points.
Dow down 125 points.
EURCHF falls below 1.21
Bund 0,966%

US X-47B stealth attack drones being used over east Ukraine - AP

Reuters: RUSSIAN FM SAYS UKRAINIAN FORCES ENGAGING IN INTENSE FIGHTING IN EASTERN UKRAINE TO STOP HUMANITARIAN AID TO THE REGION

Quote from: chopstick on August 15, 2014, 03:15:41 PM

Stop spreading Fud:

Index   Value   % Change   Open   High   Low   Time
AMERICAS INDEXES
Dow Jones Industrial Average   16,668.53   -0.27%   16,717.01   16,775.27   16,619.50   11:10:37
S&P 500 Index   1,956.40   +0.06%   1,958.87   1,964.04   1,955.26   10:50:01
NASDAQ Composite Index   4,451.75   -0.03%   4,479.64   4,482.47   4,451.75   10:55:15
EUROPE, MIDDLE EAST & AFRICA INDEXES
EURO STOXX 50 Price EUR   3,065.96   +0.26%   3,063.28   3,093.74   3,062.10   10:50:15
FTSE 100 Index   6,718.70   +0.50%   6,685.26   6,742.82   6,685.26   10:50:46
Deutsche Boerse AG German Stock Index DAX   9,222.28   -0.03%   9,239.00   9,324.57   9,197.97   10:49:59
ASIA-PACIFIC INDEXES
Nikkei 225   15,318.34   +0.02%   15,317.15   15,328.34   15,276.99   02:28:01
Hong Kong Hang Seng Index   24,954.94   +0.62%   24,969.72   25,010.31   24,872.71   04:01:24
Shanghai Shenzhen CSI 300 Index   2,360.64   +1.06%   2,337.99   2,366.90   2,333.12   03:01:47

Quote

The S&P 500 (SPX) fell 0.2 percent to 1,952.23 at 11:02 a.m. in New York, erasing an earlier advance of 0.5 percent. The Dow Jones Industrial Average added 44.06 points, or 0.3 percent, to 16,669.52. The yield on the 10-year Treasury note sank eight basis points to 2.32 percent.

The following brigades of the Ukrainian Army are MIA:

1. 72nd Guards Mechanized Brigade (Bila Tserkva)
2. 79th Airmobile Brigade (Mykolaiv)
3. 24th Motor Rifle Division (Yavoriv)

Also, a part of the 25th Airborne Brigade (Cherkaske) is reported to be missing. The strength of each brigade is close to 4,500 soldiers.

Russians are gonna be furious, if terrorists lose. And their leader's popularity rating is skyrocketing. Guess what's gonna happen?

Quote from: niothor on August 15, 2014, 03:17:59 PM

Quote from: chopstick on August 15, 2014, 03:15:41 PM

Quote

Not fud. This is all happening now. The drops were swift and reactionary based on the news - as expected they are also recovering quickly. That is what usually happens with markets.

RT @RT_com · 1 min

BREAKING: Aid convoy to #Ukraine faces disruption, may be attacked - Russia

http://rt.com/news/180664-ukraine-russian-humanitarian-convoy/

It is important to see how this plays out. Russia may use it as justification to send more forces.

Check the map which I had posted earlier. A part of the Krasnodon-Lugansk highway is currently under the control of Ukrainian soldiers (who are in fact surrounded on all sides by the rebels). It will be suicidal for the convoy to use that road.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 15, 2014, 03:29:08 PM

Since the battle took place after the ukrianan military was trapped and defeated at amvrossivka and then at miusynsk and then ant ivanivka....
That doesn't look like encirclement to me.

Unless in cyrillic the one outside the circle is the one trapped.

Quote from: niothor on August 15, 2014, 03:34:19 PM

Places such as Miusinsk and Amrossivka are located far away from the Krasnodon-Lugansk highway.

Miusinsk is to the South of Krasnyi Luch and Amrossivka is further to the South. The first one is under rebel control (24th Division was operating nearby) and the second one is under Kiev control.

I was talking about the 80th Division, which is trapped between Lugansk, Lutugino and Krasnodon.

Read this article.

Novorissiya Military Briefing, August 15th, 2014

http://slavyangrad.org/2014/08/15/novorossiya-military-briefing-august-15-2014/

Overall, it is becoming increasingly clear that the widely publicized offensive on Donetsk has, as expected, amounted to zilch. The Ukrainian Armed Forces does not have any more strength. It simply does not. And that is all. Moreover, the Junta forces are facing several simultaneous catastrophes on the local scale, which can become operational-tactical in nature and then strategic.
DPR
The Saur-Mogila Area

The counter-offensive of the DPR forces that began on August 11, 2014 resulted in the DPR army taking control of Stepanovka on August 12, 2014 and then of Marinovka in the morning of August 13, 2014. The Marinovka border crossing checkpoint (“KPP”) was taken over in the afternoon of August 13, 2014. Thereby, the Southern Cauldron 2.0 was formed. As a result, three more armoured-tank groups of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ended up being encircled. Although the Junta troops’ desperate attack on Stepanovka on August 13-14, 2014 resulted in heavy fighting on the outskirts of the village and in the settlement itself, it ultimately resulted in the attacking grouping’s complete rout. So far, the trumpeted importance of Saur-Mogila appears to offer the Ukrainian army no particular solace. This suggests that the widely advertised capture of the strategic height was nothing more than a PR move on the part of the Junta (equivalent to the Nazi Germany installing its flag on Mount Elbrus in 1942).

*snip*

Among the Junta forces, increasingly, it is not the names of regular units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces that we see flash in the briefings, but those of militarized battalions. This is a direct consequence of the losses that were suffered by the Junta troops in the last several weeks, resulting in units of the second line coming to the forefront. This forced transformation immediately aggravated the losses of the Ukrainian strike groups (the example of Ilovaisk is quite telling in that regard). In other words, the most battleworthy units of the Junta have either already been exterminated (the 72nd, the 79th, the 51st, and parts of the 24th Brigads), or are currently blockaded in cauldrons (the 80th, the 95th, the 30th, and parts of the 24th Brigade). At the same time, the militarized battalions that were left holding the front cannot compare to the regular army despite all their patriotic zealotry. In other words, at the front we are observing an equalization of forces not only in terms of quantity (particularly in military hardware), but also in terms of quality (in fact, quality-wise, the Army of the Southeast already has an appreciable advantage).

USA Today "Reports: Ukraine destroys part of Russian armed convoy"... "some 2 dozen APCs"

Who knows if true, could be propaganda.

edit:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-15/ukraine-president-issues-statement-elimination-russian-convoy-ukraine-artillery

Russia confirms that it's forces are engaged in combat with Kiev military - Russian foreign ministry

^UNCONFIRMED could be fud.