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August 08, 2014, 04:20:31 PM
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The compensation will be for the missed GH/s, per the specific $/GH/s ratio of each customer order. It was explained numerous time before.
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August 08, 2014, 04:22:26 PM
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Yes the front mount ears were on as well as a separate set of rear mount ears in case you have a 4 post rack.
They work well and fit standard 2 post and 4 post racks.
I do suggest using a 4 post rack though just due to weight.

Hello, for those who already received the SP30, does it bring the rack mount ears?
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The compensation will be for the missed GH/s, per the specific $/GH/s ratio of each customer order. It was explained numerous time before.
We'll allow each customer to select the form of compensation. More details soon.

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August 08, 2014, 04:47:15 PM
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Yet another power question :

so I took a look at my panel finally and found i have a 125 AMP panel ( what a rip off for a house that is less than 8 years old)

anyways looking at the dryer I saw this kind of outlet which i plan to use for one or two sp30s if possible :


http://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/60526936?src=pla&008=-99&pcrid=15557577904&007=Search&006=15557577904&005=21882504424&004=4409695744&002=2167139&mkwid=sJXegN7a0|dc&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_sJXegN7a0_PLA__15557577904_c_S&026=-99&025=c&item=60526936


on the outlet it states its a 30 amp 125/250V  
I also have a 50amp outlet upstairs used by the electric range which I already planned to replace with a Gas range during black Friday, I have not checked the outlet for that

what kind of adapter would i need for the above linked outlet to hook it up to some sort of splitter or PDU for at least one sp30?

The 50amp outlet is upstairs so i would probably need to get that rewired to downstairs in any case so that would be a project for later.

thanks

you can stick the item below into your dryer wall outlet.
http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-14330-1-5-Foot-Adapter-Connector/dp/B001TO7130/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1407514332

then, you would need a pdu, which are available used on ebay (AP9571, etc) for another $50.
125A is not much power, though, and you would need to calculate how much is your typical A usage at the peak, add 3kw for each Sp-30 and add 20-30% as a cushion.
Thanks for the input that cable looks good enough, I would probably need one that is 25 feet though to get to my mining room in the basement.

125A is how many available watts by the way ?  My peak usage is pretty high but I will turn off my gpus as I turn on the SP30s and they currently pull a total of 4000Watts.

also with the dryer not running while the SP30s run now that would limit my usage a bit there.

-Also Could I run two SP30s on that AP9571 ? and would i get the full power out of the SP30 (4.5TH) with that PDU  even though its a 125/250V outlet from the dryer ?  

Thanks in advance.


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August 08, 2014, 04:54:08 PM
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Yet another power question :

so I took a look at my panel finally and found i have a 125 AMP panel ( what a rip off for a house that is less than 8 years old)

anyways looking at the dryer I saw this kind of outlet which i plan to use for one or two sp30s if possible :


http://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/60526936?src=pla&008=-99&pcrid=15557577904&007=Search&006=15557577904&005=21882504424&004=4409695744&002=2167139&mkwid=sJXegN7a0|dc&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_sJXegN7a0_PLA__15557577904_c_S&026=-99&025=c&item=60526936


on the outlet it states its a 30 amp 125/250V  
I also have a 50amp outlet upstairs used by the electric range which I already planned to replace with a Gas range during black Friday, I have not checked the outlet for that

what kind of adapter would i need for the above linked outlet to hook it up to some sort of splitter or PDU for at least one sp30?

The 50amp outlet is upstairs so i would probably need to get that rewired to downstairs in any case so that would be a project for later.

thanks

you can stick the item below into your dryer wall outlet.
http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-14330-1-5-Foot-Adapter-Connector/dp/B001TO7130/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1407514332

then, you would need a pdu, which are available used on ebay (AP9571, etc) for another $50.
125A is not much power, though, and you would need to calculate how much is your typical A usage at the peak, add 3kw for each Sp-30 and add 20-30% as a cushion.
Thanks for the input that cable looks good enough, I would probably need one that is 25 feet though to get to my mining room in the basement.

125A is how many available watts by the way ?  My peak usage is pretty high but I will turn off my gpus as I turn on the SP30s and they currently pull a total of 4000Watts.

also with the dryer not running while the SP30s run now that would limit my usage a bit there.

-Also Could I run two SP30s on that AP9571 ? and would i get the full power out of the SP30 (4.5TH) with that PDU  even though its a 125/250V outlet from the dryer ?  

Thanks in advance.



240V is ok as input on AP9571, however it is rated for 24A and each Sp-30 is at least 12.5A at 240V, more current if lower voltage.
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August 08, 2014, 05:05:12 PM
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although I am somewhat disappointed you paid 'mucho" for the sp30...I was under the impression you were 'SuperMan"
getting equipment for free from your hardware guides and reviews
Even the guy who writes the software that almost all mining equipment in existence uses and depends on hardly ever gets free hardware, even though he returns the favour with ongoing driver support, though he did get an SP10 which he was grateful for.

That's not a bad deal at all. That's like $4000 + whatever the mining rig makes. So basically soon as that thing started to run it was making %100 profit. I'd say that is a great exchange for writing some code.

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August 08, 2014, 05:08:44 PM
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although I am somewhat disappointed you paid 'mucho" for the sp30...I was under the impression you were 'SuperMan"
getting equipment for free from your hardware guides and reviews
Even the guy who writes the software that almost all mining equipment in existence uses and depends on hardly ever gets free hardware, even though he returns the favour with ongoing driver support, though he did get an SP10 which he was grateful for.

That's not a bad deal at all. That's like $4000 + whatever the mining rig makes. So basically soon as that thing started to run it was making %100 profit. I'd say that is a great exchange for writing some code.


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August 08, 2014, 05:23:20 PM
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I have a couple SP10's hosted. Are these temps within normal operating? If they aren't I'll need to contact the host.


Temp Front / Back T,B  29 °C / 65,78 °C

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I have a couple SP10's hosted. Are these temps within normal operating? If they aren't I'll need to contact the host.


Temp Front / Back T,B  29 °C / 65,78 °C
It is a bit high, the actual intake temperature might be around 3°C lower than what the sensor says.

26°C is an acceptable temperature for a standard density datacenter though.



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August 08, 2014, 05:31:19 PM
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Yet another power question :

so I took a look at my panel finally and found i have a 125 AMP panel ( what a rip off for a house that is less than 8 years old)

anyways looking at the dryer I saw this kind of outlet which i plan to use for one or two sp30s if possible :


http://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/60526936?src=pla&008=-99&pcrid=15557577904&007=Search&006=15557577904&005=21882504424&004=4409695744&002=2167139&mkwid=sJXegN7a0|dc&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_sJXegN7a0_PLA__15557577904_c_S&026=-99&025=c&item=60526936


on the outlet it states its a 30 amp 125/250V  
I also have a 50amp outlet upstairs used by the electric range which I already planned to replace with a Gas range during black Friday, I have not checked the outlet for that

what kind of adapter would i need for the above linked outlet to hook it up to some sort of splitter or PDU for at least one sp30?

The 50amp outlet is upstairs so i would probably need to get that rewired to downstairs in any case so that would be a project for later.

thanks

you can stick the item below into your dryer wall outlet.
http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-14330-1-5-Foot-Adapter-Connector/dp/B001TO7130/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1407514332

then, you would need a pdu, which are available used on ebay (AP9571, etc) for another $50.
125A is not much power, though, and you would need to calculate how much is your typical A usage at the peak, add 3kw for each Sp-30 and add 20-30% as a cushion.
Thanks for the input that cable looks good enough, I would probably need one that is 25 feet though to get to my mining room in the basement.

125A is how many available watts by the way ?  My peak usage is pretty high but I will turn off my gpus as I turn on the SP30s and they currently pull a total of 4000Watts.

also with the dryer not running while the SP30s run now that would limit my usage a bit there.

-Also Could I run two SP30s on that AP9571 ? and would i get the full power out of the SP30 (4.5TH) with that PDU  even though its a 125/250V outlet from the dryer ?  

Thanks in advance.



240V is OK as input on AP9571, however it is rated for 24A and each Sp-30 is at least 12.5A at 240V, more current if lower voltage.

so to make a long story short i could start with this  :

1)

http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-14330-1-5-Foot-Adapter-Connector/dp/B001TO7130/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1407514332


to link from the dryers receptacle

then pair that with this :

2)
http://www.amazon.com/L14-30P-2x-L5-30R-Splitter-Cord/dp/B00CP7QBRW/ref=sr_1_cc_3?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1407518580&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=125%2F250+splitter

that's 10 feet long so good enough length for me.

Finally attach two PDUs  (one to each of the female splits)

3)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-AP9571-Basic-Rack-Mount-Power-Strip-Distribution-Unit-PDU-12-Slot-1U-/111430262755?pt=US_Power_Distribution_Units&hash=item19f1c2dfe3

so one PDU can be used for each SP30

Tell me I won't burn down my house with this setup lol ?



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I'm ready to order two SP30's however am somewhat confused on the power requirments for the units.. When I look at the pic and try to understand the tech docs these look like two standard server Power Supplies with a 110 plug.. At my rack I have 4 20 amp circuits with the standard american wall outlet .. So, if I understand this right I can plug each PSU into its own 110 circuit and I should be OK >? Does this sound correct ? I have to wait 4 business days for my ACH transfer to complete so I have time to work this out.. Also I will be using Bitcoin to buy, so once I make the purchase will the first block confirmation put me on the list for the September delivery batch ? I'm really excited about getting these two units and look forward to testing them out for the users who frequent my site and IRC chat.. I have a lot of people asking about the units, so I'm trying to learn as much as possible .

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August 08, 2014, 06:04:44 PM
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I'm ready to order two SP30's however am somewhat confused on the power requirments for the units.. When I look at the pic and try to understand the tech docs these look like two standard server Power Supplies with a 110 plug.. At my rack I have 4 20 amp circuits with the standard american wall outlet .. So, if I understand this right I can plug each PSU into its own 110 circuit and I should be OK >? Does this sound correct ?

Yup, plug each PSU into it's own circuit and you'll be good.

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August 08, 2014, 06:19:07 PM
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No more SP10?
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August 08, 2014, 06:21:48 PM
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No more SP10?

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August 08, 2014, 06:56:42 PM
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The sp30 is cheaper per GH for both you and spondoolies.

It is also more power-efficient an more quiet, so why would you prefer a sp10?
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August 08, 2014, 06:59:01 PM
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The sp30 is cheaper per GH for both you and spondoolies.

It is also more power-efficient an more quiet, so why would you prefer a sp10?

I know, but there is only one reason and that's not enough money for a SP30. Lack of 1k$.

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August 08, 2014, 07:01:09 PM
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240V is OK as input on
2)
http://www.amazon.com/L14-30P-2x-L5-30R-Splitter-Cord/dp/B00CP7QBRW/ref=sr_1_cc_3?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1407518580&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=125%2F250+splitter

that's 10 feet long so good enough length for me.

Finally attach two PDUs  (one to each of the female splits)

3)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-AP9571-Basic-Rack-Mount-Power-Strip-Distribution-Unit-PDU-12-Slot-1U-/111430262755?pt=US_Power_Distribution_Units&hash=item19f1c2dfe3

so one PDU can be used for each SP30

Tell me I won't burn down my house with this setup lol ?

That won't work.  If you buy all that stuff you'll quickly find that the L5-30R receptacles on item #2 don't match/fit the L6-30P plug on the PDU (#3).

Edit:  Instead of the #2 you linked to, check this one out:  http://www.amazon.com/L14-30P-2x-L6-30R-Splitter-Cord/dp/B00CP7PIRG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407524517&sr=1-1&keywords=L14-30P+to+2x+L6-30R
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August 08, 2014, 07:08:49 PM
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240V is OK as input on
2)
http://www.amazon.com/L14-30P-2x-L5-30R-Splitter-Cord/dp/B00CP7QBRW/ref=sr_1_cc_3?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1407518580&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=125%2F250+splitter

that's 10 feet long so good enough length for me.

Finally attach two PDUs  (one to each of the female splits)

3)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-AP9571-Basic-Rack-Mount-Power-Strip-Distribution-Unit-PDU-12-Slot-1U-/111430262755?pt=US_Power_Distribution_Units&hash=item19f1c2dfe3

so one PDU can be used for each SP30

Tell me I won't burn down my house with this setup lol ?

That won't work.  If you buy all that stuff you'll quickly find that the L5-30R receptacles on item #2 don't match/fit the L6-30P plug on the PDU (#3).

Edit:  Instead of the #2 you linked to, check this one out:  http://www.amazon.com/L14-30P-2x-L6-30R-Splitter-Cord/dp/B00CP7PIRG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407524517&sr=1-1&keywords=L14-30P+to+2x+L6-30R


Oh nm just saw your reponse its a L6 vs an L5 30R got it

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August 09, 2014, 12:43:24 AM
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That's not a bad deal at all. That's like $4000 + whatever the mining rig makes. So basically soon as that thing started to run it was making %100 profit. I'd say that is a great exchange for writing some code.


Where I'm sitting, the guys get at least $100/hr to write some code, and I'm sure that cgminer took a little longer to make and maintain. Especially with new technologies. But most of our code is unique and built on order. Looking at the quantity of SP10 and SP30 manuafctured (and some delivered) already, it makes sense to donate something for a good piece of open source software used in the setup.

In the end, donations are tax extempt Smiley and help both sides of the equation.

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August 09, 2014, 01:55:01 AM
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I moved my SP30 around within one room the evening of the day before yesterday (about 36 hours ago), and the result was instability at the 1190W/1170W I had it at. I had to drop the limits on each PSU by about 70 W in order to regain stability. The issue appeared to be that both power supplies had become more susceptible to overheating. I don't know why performance decreased so much with such a small move (about 6 feet). My rough visual evaluation is that the new location should have slightly better airflow than the old. Intake temperatures are measured as being about the same, too. One of the PSUs is on a different electrical circuit (fed by a different breaker), but it's the same voltage as before, and it's fed by the same transformer (although possibly a different winding or a different part of the same winding).

Anyway, I currently have my PSUs limited at 1125 W (top) and 1105 W (bottom). Hashrate is about 4046 GH/s. I might be able to squeeze a few more watts out of each, but I don't have time to play that game right now. Maybe later. I'm curious to find out why the available performance dropped. Maybe it was airflow, or maybe it was a change in the thermal conductivity of the case to the steel stuff I had it sitting on before.


It should be fine, in 110V the unit should not 'learn'.
You can always 'delete' learning by setting PSU limit back to 1360 watt in case it did - the unit will learn again.
You can also disable learning by setting unit to safe number like 1300 watt.

This means that if you set the limit on the PSUs too high on 120V, you just get rapid PSU overloads, and your hashrate suffers horribly. Careful, all you other 120Volters.

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