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November 11, 2014, 07:41:33 PM |
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They had issues with shipping, not with the actual hardware, but yes feel free to spread your anger/shit here.
Sounds like it was a problem with the actual design to me: We found out that dropping the SP20 package may cause the boards to shift.
We got complaints from about 2% of non palletes customers. Most of the units can be fixed at home by replacing the boards.
We halt individual package shipments for one week, until we'll solve the issue.
If you got such SP20, contact support@ for miner assembly guide. If the SP20 was actually damaged, we'll RMA.
Guy
... Noticed that the boards sat at an angle inside the case, so I opened it up and re-aligned. The boards are not screwed in or secured with anything except some grooves raised up from the enclosure. Pretty cheap design, which is prone to board shifting if handled rough in transit.... We'll ship replacement SP20 after fixing the package issue next week.Guy
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November 11, 2014, 07:45:26 PM |
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The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.
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November 11, 2014, 07:48:34 PM |
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The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.
Can you expand a little in layman terms what the problem was? I'm considering buying a few, but have been holding out due to this. Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 11, 2014, 07:49:03 PM |
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The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.
superb. top-tech! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Guy Corem (OP)
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November 11, 2014, 07:52:11 PM |
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The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.
Can you expand a little in layman terms what the problem was? I'm considering buying a few, but have been holding out due to this. Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In previous revision of the SP20 mechanical kit, the hashing boards may shift during transit due to the fact that they were not secured enough inside the box. Most of the customers that were encountered the issue were able to solve by simply opening the box and press down the hashing board.
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November 11, 2014, 08:07:39 PM |
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The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.
Can you expand a little in layman terms what the problem was? I'm considering buying a few, but have been holding out due to this. Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In previous revision of the SP20 mechanical kit, the hashing boards may shift during transit due to the fact that they were not secured enough inside the box. Most of the customers that were encountered the issue were able to solve by simply opening the box and press down the hashing board. Thanks for the reply. Is the firmware still under development, or is it now final? Also, are they p2pool compatible - as are your other models? Thanks again.
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November 11, 2014, 08:10:03 PM |
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The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.
Can you expand a little in layman terms what the problem was? I'm considering buying a few, but have been holding out due to this. Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In previous revision of the SP20 mechanical kit, the hashing boards may shift during transit due to the fact that they were not secured enough inside the box. Most of the customers that were encountered the issue were able to solve by simply opening the box and press down the hashing board. Thanks for the reply. Is the firmware still under development, or is it now final? Also, are they p2pool compatible - as are your other models? Thanks again. Zvisha always continue to tweak and improve the firmware. It's p2pool compatible. Guy
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November 11, 2014, 08:43:01 PM |
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I stopped arguing with that idiot long time ago. Hes too fcking dumb to understand this simple concept. Infact i say most noobs buying hardware right now are actually expecting BTC price to rise in order for ROI.
Not sure why the aggression. I am not advocating hardware purchase to everyone, but it shouldn't be a surprise that hardware is clearly being sold to people in areas of cheap electricity (<$0.10/kwh) and/or those who are very bullish on their calculations of roi regarding the future bitcoin value and hashrate. Personally, I pay $0.14/kwh and have not purchased hardware in the last two months. In fact, I've been liquidating much of my hashrate due to the good resale value in BTC
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November 11, 2014, 09:30:28 PM |
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{snip raving}
Not sure why the aggression. Shouldn't worry, its his modus operandi. Could be mild Tourettes mixed in with narcissistic tendencies. I don't put many people on ignore.
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November 11, 2014, 09:47:35 PM |
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Hmm, I was thinking about ordering another S4. Now I'm considering 2x SP20s. Do the SP20s ship out same day?
Edit: Sorry, reading fail. Site says shipments start on Nov. 18th.
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November 11, 2014, 09:52:05 PM |
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@ Sponds ... Just an observation ...
The new price on the SP20 at $795 with an additional $80 discount for repeat customers only lasts for 72 hours.
The sales email says "Not sure which power supply to select? We'll be adding a PSU guide in the next couple of days..".
Now PSUs have been discussed here on the forum, but not all of your customers are members here. If it takes 48 hours to post PSU recommendations on your site, then only 24hrs remain to order (presuming the PSU guide does get listed in 48hrs).
People will need time to research costs etc.
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November 11, 2014, 10:07:04 PM |
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@ Sponds ... Just an observation ...
The new price on the SP20 at $795 with an additional $80 discount for repeat customers only lasts for 72 hours.
The sales email says "Not sure which power supply to select? We'll be adding a PSU guide in the next couple of days..".
Now PSUs have been discussed here on the forum, but not all of your customers are members here. If it takes 48 hours to post PSU recommendations on your site, then only 24hrs remain to order (presuming the PSU guide does get listed in 48hrs).
People will need time to research costs etc.
You are lucky to get a discount. I don't know who is a repeat customer (do you need to order every single machine?), because I am a customer, but did not get any emails yet.
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November 11, 2014, 10:16:38 PM |
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I got nothing either I paid the full $1200 price for an sp30 (using my $800) coupon from a my sp30 august order that was not up to specs . I would have put together the BTC to buy 2 sp20s at this discount price so sad ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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November 11, 2014, 10:17:53 PM |
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My sp30 runs better at 21c then it does at 0 or 10c
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November 11, 2014, 10:32:54 PM |
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I stopped arguing with that idiot long time ago. Hes too fcking dumb to understand this simple concept. Infact i say most noobs buying hardware right now are actually expecting BTC price to rise in order for ROI.
Not sure why the aggression. I am not advocating hardware purchase to everyone, but it shouldn't be a surprise that hardware is clearly being sold to people in areas of cheap electricity (<$0.10/kwh) and/or those who are very bullish on their calculations of roi regarding the future bitcoin value and hashrate. Personally, I pay $0.14/kwh and have not purchased hardware in the last two months. In fact, I've been liquidating much of my hashrate due to the good resale value in BTC for the last time, you cant factor in future bitcoin value in the calculation. corrected
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November 11, 2014, 10:47:13 PM |
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new SP20 price! $795 with discount code and shipping of 2 units (3.4TH): 4.5 BTC
7* bitmain S3+ units (3.4 TH) with coupons and shipping this week = 4.7 BTC 4* Bitmain C1 (4TH) with watercooling and shipping this week = 5.3 BTC (4.64 for 3.5TH)
wrong math1x SP20 price! $795+shipping 1700GH/s 2x C1 price $800+shipping 2000GH/s Which one is more GH/s ? Which one requires extra components not mentioned in the price? Nice comeback, Bick
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November 11, 2014, 11:06:28 PM |
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Version 2.5.12 became the official, 2.5.6 removed and 2.5.13 is the latest experimental. 2.5.12 - different handling of BIST and Murata flow - improves stability. 2.5.13 - sets default (after factory reset) values to 1275/288 in SP3x/SP2x. Redirection bug fixed. Handling of ambient temperatures lower then 0c added.
So which firmware should I install on an Emerson PSU set I currently have 2.5.1 and its still unstable not getting more than 3TH and asics keep failing with that loop error. I rue the day I updated my firmware when I was happily hashing at around 4.5 TH for months.
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November 11, 2014, 11:08:25 PM |
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Version 2.5.12 became the official, 2.5.6 removed and 2.5.13 is the latest experimental. 2.5.12 - different handling of BIST and Murata flow - improves stability. 2.5.13 - sets default (after factory reset) values to 1275/288 in SP3x/SP2x. Redirection bug fixed. Handling of ambient temperatures lower then 0c added.
So which firmware should I install on an Emerson PSU set I currently have 2.5.1 and its still unstable not getting more than 3TH and asics keep failing with that loop error. I rue the day I updated my firmware when I was happily hashing at around 4.5 TH for months. Is there a process to roll back?
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November 11, 2014, 11:21:20 PM |
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for the last time, you cant factor in future bitcoin value in the calculation.
You need to consider future bitcoin value if you have to pay for hosting(and/or electricity) with fiat. Unless of course you pay for lifetime hosting up front, or have free hosting. If you pay for hosting with the bitcoins mined, then it becomes really easy to calculate ROI.
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November 11, 2014, 11:25:05 PM |
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Which one requires extra components not mentioned in the price?
Neither. C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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