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True when they called about the fire. I can see in the miner stats that the fire was already 1 hour going. So they where all sleeping ;-). and stupid me trusted them with all this equipment. That's my big mistake. But again, I can't turn back time. No one hurt and a lesson learned.
Man, you are VERY passive for losing a ton of money and profit. You must be some rich kid playing with mom's money or never earned the money yourself? Usually when you earn money and lose it, it hurts a lot more then when just given to you. I have patient with your weekend trolling, started after I didn't agree to a deal you requested privately. I don't have patient for your inappropriate and wicked comments here and before. Guy I don't think I used the message system here in months. I think you got the wrong dude, also my comments aren't even near being wicked. I've seen a lot worse. I was referring to email exchange we had few months ago regarding SP10. I really don't care about your posts as long as they're dealing with hardware ROI, Spondoolies-Tech, etc. Keep posting them. Your remarks towrads cowboyminer are wicked. Maybe there are worse outside this thread, but it's not an excuse. Guy Yea, I get it. But it just gets me pissed when someone puts all that money into something and doesn't do it properly. No fire suppression at all? If it was malicious, yea, I feel bad, but everything still could of been saved if there was fire protection in place. It's like when someone doesn't wear a seatbelt when driving a car and gets into an accident and hurts themselves. Of course I have empathy for that person, but I'm still angry as all hell because they should have been wearing a seatbelt. Ok, back on topic.
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I finally saw some large photos of the SP20, looks pretty nice inside, clean and neat. Does that have just one fan? Is it very loud the other SP models? This unit seems to be made for the home, so my dad is asking me about if it is loud or not. Is it tolerable to be in the same room with it and have a phone conversation?
its pretty loud , unless you are in a cool enough area where you can run the fans at 60% its loud. You should be able to hold a phone conversation though just raise your voice a bit
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November 12, 2014, 08:09:30 PM |
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i just woke up to 920 gh
reboot failed - 2 power cycles failed to remedy
miner is once not mining
yellow led is blinking 2 times..
UI is unavailable - Myminer.io does not see it
This is an SP20? My dad is really interested in buying one (which he will force me to get one too) but I don't want to be playing around with it all the time. Just plug it in, input my pool and that's it. Do you think it is a hardware issue or software?
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November 12, 2014, 08:14:11 PM |
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I finally saw some large photos of the SP20, looks pretty nice inside, clean and neat. Does that have just one fan? Is it very loud the other SP models? This unit seems to be made for the home, so my dad is asking me about if it is loud or not. Is it tolerable to be in the same room with it and have a phone conversation?
It's not a home mining machine despite its description. If you want to keep your Dad happy don't buy one.
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November 12, 2014, 08:28:22 PM |
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price is still too high, there is no roi here.
Hardware = $800 (including power supply) Profitability decline per year = 0.1 (only <8% decline per period, very conservative) Power = 1200W @0.15
Still come back with a negative $ after 12 months. It's basic math, i dont understand why people continue to buy those overpriced hardware, host them, run them, when they wont make any money for you.
I just went over that with my dad, that he has to pay the electricity on this one (not hosted) and buy a high quality PSU which would cost about $200 for a good one. He's now bummed like a little kid, but so am I. Buying mining gear together keeps up talking and in a good relationship.
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November 12, 2014, 09:02:29 PM |
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... SPTech ARE doing a pretty damn good job ...
We're trying. Thank you. I believe you've been the most transparent company in not just keeping people informed on orders, but on upcoming technologies. Please keep up that great work!
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November 12, 2014, 09:04:00 PM |
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price is still too high, there is no roi here.
Hardware = $800 (including power supply) Profitability decline per year = 0.1 (only <8% decline per period, very conservative) Power = 1200W @0.15
Still come back with a negative $ after 12 months. It's basic math, i dont understand why people continue to buy those overpriced hardware, host them, run them, when they wont make any money for you.
I just went over that with my dad, that he has to pay the electricity on this one (not hosted) and buy a high quality PSU which would cost about $200 for a good one. He's now bummed like a little kid, but so am I. Buying mining gear together keeps up talking and in a good relationship. Get an s3+ or the c1 Similar price/gh, similar efficiency, but very reasonable volume. Could run 1-2 in the corner of a room and barely be noticed above the noise of a desktop pc or desk fan The sp20 is perhaps a better product, bit not if noise matters
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November 12, 2014, 09:19:46 PM |
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I cannot express how glad I am I sold my SP20 immediately for exactly what I paid for it given they have 0 regard for those who purchased early (as show in the lowering of prices 1 week after delivery without equal compensation to early supporters).
Great hardware, shitty management.
The hardware was actually shit too, hence why they had to stop selling it to sort the problems out. Is this for real?
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November 12, 2014, 09:23:48 PM |
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I cannot express how glad I am I sold my SP20 immediately for exactly what I paid for it given they have 0 regard for those who purchased early (as show in the lowering of prices 1 week after delivery without equal compensation to early supporters).
Lowered the price 1 week after delivery, but shipping is one week later so that makes it 2 weeks. Also you should know by now that mining hardware price is always going down. I don't think you were expecting the same price until the end of the year. The hardware was actually shit too, hence why they had to stop selling it to sort the problems out.
They had issues with shipping, not with the actual hardware, but yes feel free to spread your anger/shit here. This is the first time I have ever seen SP lower prices. And it wasn't a little at a time, it was just one big drop. I could be mistaken about them lowering prices, but I don't remember. Old age starts to melt away brain cells.
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November 12, 2014, 09:33:05 PM |
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The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.
Can you expand a little in layman terms what the problem was? I'm considering buying a few, but have been holding out due to this. Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In previous revision of the SP20 mechanical kit, the hashing boards may shift during transit due to the fact that they were not secured enough inside the box. Most of the customers that were encountered the issue were able to solve by simply opening the box and press down the hashing board. Has that issue been resolved for when they are being shipped out and bouncing all over in the back of a delivery truck? You mentioned what happened and what users did to resolve the issue, but never mentioned has the underlying problem been resolved? Thanks.
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November 12, 2014, 09:42:57 PM |
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The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.
Can you expand a little in layman terms what the problem was? I'm considering buying a few, but have been holding out due to this. Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In previous revision of the SP20 mechanical kit, the hashing boards may shift during transit due to the fact that they were not secured enough inside the box. Most of the customers that were encountered the issue were able to solve by simply opening the box and press down the hashing board. Has that issue been resolved for when they are being shipped out and bouncing all over in the back of a delivery truck? You mentioned what happened and what users did to resolve the issue, but never mentioned has the underlying problem been resolved? Thanks. The mechanical problem with the SP20 was completely solved. We've tested and confirmed.
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November 12, 2014, 10:19:11 PM |
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I cannot express how glad I am I sold my SP20 immediately for exactly what I paid for it given they have 0 regard for those who purchased early (as show in the lowering of prices 1 week after delivery without equal compensation to early supporters).
Lowered the price 1 week after delivery, but shipping is one week later so that makes it 2 weeks. Also you should know by now that mining hardware price is always going down. I don't think you were expecting the same price until the end of the year. The hardware was actually shit too, hence why they had to stop selling it to sort the problems out.
They had issues with shipping, not with the actual hardware, but yes feel free to spread your anger/shit here. This is the first time I have ever seen SP lower prices. And it wasn't a little at a time, it was just one big drop. I could be mistaken about them lowering prices, but I don't remember. Old age starts to melt away brain cells. No, they always do it. Sp-30 for July were $11000>$4500 Aug>3900 Oct
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November 12, 2014, 10:27:40 PM |
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This is the first time I have ever seen SP lower prices. And it wasn't a little at a time, it was just one big drop. I could be mistaken about them lowering prices, but I don't remember. Old age starts to melt away brain cells.
No, they always do it. Sp-30 for July were $11000>$4500 Aug>3900 Oct No. This is the first time they lower the price 40% for in stock miner.
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November 12, 2014, 10:45:06 PM |
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Toom.im is now accepting SP20s for hosting. If you need a power supply, we can supply one for $100.
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Hosting bitcoin miners for $65 to $80/kW/month on clean, cheap hydro power. http://Toom.im
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November 12, 2014, 10:49:32 PM |
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Toom.im is now accepting SP20s for hosting. If you need a power supply, we can supply one for $100. will i own that psu?
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November 12, 2014, 10:53:30 PM |
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This is the first time I have ever seen SP lower prices. And it wasn't a little at a time, it was just one big drop. I could be mistaken about them lowering prices, but I don't remember. Old age starts to melt away brain cells.
No, they always do it. Sp-30 for July were $11000>$4500 Aug>3900 Oct No. This is the first time they lower the price 40% for in stock miner. If i remember correctly, they dropped the price on sp-10 very drastically as well ..and it was also in stock. however, you are probably right re 40% being the first.
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November 13, 2014, 12:40:31 AM |
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This is the first time I have ever seen SP lower prices. And it wasn't a little at a time, it was just one big drop. I could be mistaken about them lowering prices, but I don't remember. Old age starts to melt away brain cells.
No, they always do it. Sp-30 for July were $11000>$4500 Aug>3900 Oct No. This is the first time they lower the price 40% for in stock miner.If its "in stock" why do you have to wait 10 days before it ships. SP always build to order AFAIK, and the SP20 is no different.
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November 13, 2014, 12:54:16 AM |
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I ordered another SP20, can't help it. It is an addiction
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Toom.im is now accepting SP20s for hosting. If you need a power supply, we can supply one for $100. How much for an SP20? I guess around $110-$120 for a 1 month contract? On another front, just checked my SP30's and one has an ASIC error. Not too cold in there, input temps constant since setup at around 20°C Got this in Asics Stats LOOP[5] ON 15: disabled (Asic all engines fail BIST) 16: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:705 vlt2:711(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:759) 73W 103A 57c] ASIC:[ 85c (120c) 790hz(BL: 790) 53 (E:193) F:0] 17: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:708 vlt2:711(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:759) 64W 91A 47c] ASIC:[ 85c (120c) 695hz(BL: 695) 48 (E:193) F:0]
And from Logs: Nov 13 01:20:18 miner local1.warn minergate[9558]: -------- SOFT RESET 10.5 ----------- Nov 13 01:20:20 miner local1.warn minergate[9558]: Critical: JOB f000001 stuck, NOT killing ASIC Nov 13 01:20:20 miner local1.warn minergate[9558]: Disabling engines on ASIC 15: 0-0-0-0 0-0-0 Nov 13 01:20:20 miner local1.warn minergate[9558]: Called disable ASIC reset in_reset:1 Nov 13 01:20:20 miner local1.warn minergate[9558]: Critical: Asic disable 15: Asic all engines fail BIST Nov 13 01:20:20 miner local1.warn minergate[9558]: Disabing ASIC forever 15 (0xf) from loop 5 (Asic all engines fail BIST) Nov 13 01:20:20 miner local1.warn minergate[9558]: RESTART ASICS DONE Nov 13 01:20:20 miner local1.warn minergate[9558]: -------- SOFT RESET 11 -----------
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November 13, 2014, 02:22:26 AM |
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I ordered another SP20, can't help it. It is an addiction
Ha! Im sat considering the same, my decrepit jupiters will be shutting down in a week or 2... but i just woke up to this sp20 hashing at 957 again...8 more hours semi-downtime. A quick save in the settings brought it back up but i plan to be away for xmas, so can do without the ballache. @ SPTech - Is there any possibility of these ones being a bit more stable? What's reason the hash rate goes down?
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