Showdown: Trump Vs Haley. Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election

[tusandii]

There may not be a "massive" risk, but there is a significant risk. We are debating in this topic whether the odds that are being provided are accurate or not. And I have made it very clear that the odds for Biden (1.30) and Kamala (9.80) looks out of touch with reality. Kamala's odds should be at least in the 3.00-4.00 range. A lot of things can go wrong for Biden in the next 18 months (just saying about the possibilities). And it's not just the health. The economy is not doing very good, and there is always a chance of another COVID wave.

You don't need to worry about the odds from Biden or Kamala because chances are just a percentage of winning and not necessarily the truth.
Regarding the Covid wave, it might be very influential, especially in terms of the economy, but it seems that the Covid wave will not really be like a few years ago and if it has an effect, it might only affect economic and financial inflation.
Biden is indeed quite old with his current age which is 80 years old but he is still quite healthy so the risk is there but not too big to get to 18 months eighth.

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[Sithara007]

You don't need to worry about the odds from Biden or Kamala because chances are just a percentage of winning and not necessarily the truth.
Regarding the Covid wave, it might be very influential, especially in terms of the economy, but it seems that the Covid wave will not really be like a few years ago and if it has an effect, it might only affect economic and financial inflation.
Biden is indeed quite old with his current age which is 80 years old but he is still quite healthy so the risk is there but not too big to get to 18 months eighth.

You can't ignore COVID though. People are still dying and every now and then we are hearing about new variants and spikes. The last major variant (Omicron) had a low mortality rate compared to the Delta variant. But there is no guarantee that a new, more lethal variant will not appear all of a sudden. Anyway for POTUS 2024, a bigger risk is the poor health of Biden. He seems to be suffering from dementia, and it gets worse with age. Health condition of the candidates will definitely be one of the hot topics for the 2024 elections.

[bittraffic]

You don't need to worry about the odds from Biden or Kamala because chances are just a percentage of winning and not necessarily the truth.
Regarding the Covid wave, it might be very influential, especially in terms of the economy, but it seems that the Covid wave will not really be like a few years ago and if it has an effect, it might only affect economic and financial inflation.
Biden is indeed quite old with his current age which is 80 years old but he is still quite healthy so the risk is there but not too big to get to 18 months eighth.

You can't ignore COVID though. People are still dying and every now and then we are hearing about new variants and spikes. The last major variant (Omicron) had a low mortality rate compared to the Delta variant. But there is no guarantee that a new, more lethal variant will not appear all of a sudden. Anyway for POTUS 2024, a bigger risk is the poor health of Biden. He seems to be suffering from dementia, and it gets worse with age. Health condition of the candidates will definitely be one of the hot topics for the 2024 elections.

The world can not afford a new variant. Right now we are already allowed to go out and work to survive this crisis. If there will be lockdowns again because of the new variant, people will take it to the streets. Care nothing about this virus but breaking into some grocery stores.

With the announcement of Kenndy Jr running for president, I think Trump and Biden may just be out of the picture. This could be serious once he gets a ton of supporters since this is the time when there really is an adult in the room to just how to make things right.

[Sithara007]

The world can not afford a new variant. Right now we are already allowed to go out and work to survive this crisis. If there will be lockdowns again because of the new variant, people will take it to the streets. Care nothing about this virus but breaking into some grocery stores.

With the announcement of Kenndy Jr running for president, I think Trump and Biden may just be out of the picture. This could be serious once he gets a ton of supporters since this is the time when there really is an adult in the room to just how to make things right.

That announcement from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made an already complicated situation even more complex. But the most important thing here is that Kennedy will be competing for Democrat Party nomination, and he is not interested in running the 2024 elections as an independent candidate. If he loses the primaries to Biden (which looks extremely likely as of now), then he will just support Biden for the 2024 bid. One thing that the Democrats want to avoid is a polarized Democrat voter base, similar to what happened in 2016. The chances are low, as Kennedy is more of a mainstream politician when compared to Sanders.

[RealMalatesta]

You don't need to worry about the odds from Biden or Kamala because chances are just a percentage of winning and not necessarily the truth.
Regarding the Covid wave, it might be very influential, especially in terms of the economy, but it seems that the Covid wave will not really be like a few years ago and if it has an effect, it might only affect economic and financial inflation.
Biden is indeed quite old with his current age which is 80 years old but he is still quite healthy so the risk is there but not too big to get to 18 months eighth.

You can't ignore COVID though. People are still dying and every now and then we are hearing about new variants and spikes. The last major variant (Omicron) had a low mortality rate compared to the Delta variant. But there is no guarantee that a new, more lethal variant will not appear all of a sudden. Anyway for POTUS 2024, a bigger risk is the poor health of Biden. He seems to be suffering from dementia, and it gets worse with age. Health condition of the candidates will definitely be one of the hot topics for the 2024 elections.

You have to keep remembering the reasons why people vote for who they vote for. People who are republicans end up voting because they like Trump, and people who are democrats do not vote for Biden because they like him, they vote for him because they dislike Trump.

You think Biden managed to get the highest ever voter turnout for him? Of course not, it was "vote whoever against Trump" that got that many people out of their homes. Looking at how Trump still could be the candidate, and likely one at that, I say Biden still has a chance if he was dead, let alone dementia. I say at least 50-60 million would vote for a dead person or a dog or a parrot, rather than vote for Trump, so when you have a very old Biden, he still gets most of the votes.

[Sithara007]

You have to keep remembering the reasons why people vote for who they vote for. People who are republicans end up voting because they like Trump, and people who are democrats do not vote for Biden because they like him, they vote for him because they dislike Trump.

You think Biden managed to get the highest ever voter turnout for him? Of course not, it was "vote whoever against Trump" that got that many people out of their homes. Looking at how Trump still could be the candidate, and likely one at that, I say Biden still has a chance if he was dead, let alone dementia. I say at least 50-60 million would vote for a dead person or a dog or a parrot, rather than vote for Trump, so when you have a very old Biden, he still gets most of the votes.

Not very sure about whether your arguments are applicable to 2024. It was definitely a major factor in 2020. Trump was in power back then and he created a lot of controversy by appointing a number of right-wing judges (Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett). Obama during his 8 years could nominate just two (Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan), but Trump managed more than that in his 4 years. And this in turn resulted in some controversial judgements against abortion and in the end it got the female voters fired up. But situation in 2024 will be different. Trump has been out of power for too long and the people are no longer polarized against him (at least not in the same degree as they were in 2020).

[LUCKMCFLY]

Dont challenge him unless you really want to implement a different policy and have the backers to do so.  A person alone cannot stand without the support to go with it, so is there enough of a challenge to Biden; apparently not.

As for Trump he once was a member of the democrat party I think.  To say the country is 50/50 I think would be wrong, many will change vote to the other party if that candidate is able to support their jobs, livelihood, town or sector of the economy in a way that is valid and not currently supported.  My only point about Trump is he had his chance, do we really think he garners greater support in a future election.  The high tide mark is set, I dont see that as likely to be exceeded.

I don't think that Trump was ever associated with the Democrat party. He was a member of the Libertarian party in the past (if I am not wrong) and he shifted his loyalties to the GOP just before the 2016-elections, because the US is having a 2 party system. But all that said, Trump lost the elections once and I don't think that it will be a good move from the GOP to re-nominate someone who was rejected by the voters once (and that too by a huge margin). Personally I would love to see Kamala vs DeSantis in 2024. That's going to be much more exciting than Biden vs Trump (2.0).

But I really do not see a scenario where Biden is against Trump again, although things for Trump are quite strong, what I understand is that When he was cut he pleaded not Guilty to the 34 charges against him, but what I don't Understand why here is why now a case that dates Back to 2006 and a betrayal by Trump's lawyer himself led him to that uncomfortable point? for the Elections? do they not Want or fear is so much that Trump is the President again? Politics in the USA is very Strange, I don't understand it very well, I don't know what the Americans want.

[FanEagle]

I don't think that Trump was ever associated with the Democrat party. He was a member of the Libertarian party in the past (if I am not wrong) and he shifted his loyalties to the GOP just before the 2016-elections, because the US is having a 2 party system. But all that said, Trump lost the elections once and I don't think that it will be a good move from the GOP to re-nominate someone who was rejected by the voters once (and that too by a huge margin). Personally I would love to see Kamala vs DeSantis in 2024. That's going to be much more exciting than Biden vs Trump (2.0).

But I really do not see a scenario where Biden is against Trump again, although things for Trump are quite strong, what I understand is that When he was cut he pleaded not Guilty to the 34 charges against him, but what I don't Understand why here is why now a case that dates Back to 2006 and a betrayal by Trump's lawyer himself led him to that uncomfortable point? for the Elections? do they not Want or fear is so much that Trump is the President again? Politics in the USA is very Strange, I don't understand it very well, I don't know what the Americans want.

I think it is not a betrayal but we have never seen Trump really hire the best people for himself. This happened with his campaign as well, he had horrible media people around him, people not horrible in nature (although that case could be made) but just horrible on talent, he really needed more talented people.

On the other hand, even the whole pay the pornstar thing could have been avoided if someone just told him he can't do that, simple as that. All in all, I am not shocked that when you get the hatred of this many people, tens of millions, maybe even a billion if you consider the whole world then every single thing about your past will be searched, and if you did anything wrong, they will find it.

[Hispo]

Dont challenge him unless you really want to implement a different policy and have the backers to do so.  A person alone cannot stand without the support to go with it, so is there enough of a challenge to Biden; apparently not.

As for Trump he once was a member of the democrat party I think.  To say the country is 50/50 I think would be wrong, many will change vote to the other party if that candidate is able to support their jobs, livelihood, town or sector of the economy in a way that is valid and not currently supported.  My only point about Trump is he had his chance, do we really think he garners greater support in a future election.  The high tide mark is set, I dont see that as likely to be exceeded.

I don't think that Trump was ever associated with the Democrat party. He was a member of the Libertarian party in the past (if I am not wrong) and he shifted his loyalties to the GOP just before the 2016-elections, because the US is having a 2 party system. But all that said, Trump lost the elections once and I don't think that it will be a good move from the GOP to re-nominate someone who was rejected by the voters once (and that too by a huge margin). Personally I would love to see Kamala vs DeSantis in 2024. That's going to be much more exciting than Biden vs Trump (2.0).

But I really do not see a scenario where Biden is against Trump again, although things for Trump are quite strong, what I understand is that When he was cut he pleaded not Guilty to the 34 charges against him, but what I don't Understand why here is why now a case that dates Back to 2006 and a betrayal by Trump's lawyer himself led him to that uncomfortable point? for the Elections? do they not Want or fear is so much that Trump is the President again? Politics in the USA is very Strange, I don't understand it very well, I don't know what the Americans want.

Allegedly they were not going to go after Trump, because there was not precedent of a President or a former president being charged with a crime and any state or federal prosecutor could feel intimidated by going down on history for being the person who decided to do so.

The message the Prosecutors from NYC want to give to the rest of the states where Trump is under investigation is that no one is above the law. It is kind of a breaking point that was supposed to happen, so people leading the most serious investigation won't be afraid anymore of the historical matters of going after him first.  Let us see how that plays out, though.

[FanEagle]

Allegedly they were not going to go after Trump, because there was not precedent of a President or a former president being charged with a crime and any state or federal prosecutor could feel intimidated by going down on history for being the person who decided to do so.

The message the Prosecutors from NYC want to give to the rest of the states where Trump is under investigation is that no one is above the law. It is kind of a breaking point that was supposed to happen, so people leading the most serious investigation won't be afraid anymore of the historical matters of going after him first.  Let us see how that plays out, though.

And the thing is that if NYC does it first, then maybe the other few will be remembered but after that it would become ordinary. Like the 17th state to open an investigation to him won't be remembered at all, nobody would know that, but if you are the first then you will be remembered and maybe the second and third could be and I doubt even that much. So all in all NYC basically said the other states "I got this, let me take the heat about it, so you can do it easier" and now anyone else can.

The point also is that Trump may get banned on begin elected there, not saying he will be but there is a chance, anyone who loses ALL of New York's power, will not be elected, no matter where else they can get the votes from hence it is definitely a "you are not going to be the nominee" move for sure.

[Hispo]

Allegedly they were not going to go after Trump, because there was not precedent of a President or a former president being charged with a crime and any state or federal prosecutor could feel intimidated by going down on history for being the person who decided to do so.

The message the Prosecutors from NYC want to give to the rest of the states where Trump is under investigation is that no one is above the law. It is kind of a breaking point that was supposed to happen, so people leading the most serious investigation won't be afraid anymore of the historical matters of going after him first.  Let us see how that plays out, though.

And the thing is that if NYC does it first, then maybe the other few will be remembered but after that it would become ordinary. Like the 17th state to open an investigation to him won't be remembered at all, nobody would know that, but if you are the first then you will be remembered and maybe the second and third could be and I doubt even that much. So all in all NYC basically said the other states "I got this, let me take the heat about it, so you can do it easier" and now anyone else can.

The point also is that Trump may get banned on begin elected there, not saying he will be but there is a chance, anyone who loses ALL of New York's power, will not be elected, no matter where else they can get the votes from hence it is definitely a "you are not going to be the nominee" move for sure.

I don't think they will go as far as isolating Mr.Trump from national politics in that articial way. Even if they wanted to, that would only bring social unrest and even more political crisis to Republican party.
His supporters are already saying these investigations are unlawful and targeted against a political candidate. Pushing further enough could unleash more violence.

Also, Mr. Trump was always unpopular in New York city so, I do not think that state has an important role in the future of his presidential campaign, it is a blue state and does not have as many electoral colleges as California or Texas.

[Mate2237]

Allegedly they were not going to go after Trump, because there was not precedent of a President or a former president being charged with a crime and any state or federal prosecutor could feel intimidated by going down on history for being the person who decided to do so.

The message the Prosecutors from NYC want to give to the rest of the states where Trump is under investigation is that no one is above the law. It is kind of a breaking point that was supposed to happen, so people leading the most serious investigation won't be afraid anymore of the historical matters of going after him first.  Let us see how that plays out, though.

And the thing is that if NYC does it first, then maybe the other few will be remembered but after that it would become ordinary. Like the 17th state to open an investigation to him won't be remembered at all, nobody would know that, but if you are the first then you will be remembered and maybe the second and third could be and I doubt even that much. So all in all NYC basically said the other states "I got this, let me take the heat about it, so you can do it easier" and now anyone else can.

The point also is that Trump may get banned on begin elected there, not saying he will be but there is a chance, anyone who loses ALL of New York's power, will not be elected, no matter where else they can get the votes from hence it is definitely a "you are not going to be the nominee" move for sure.

I don't think they will go as far as isolating Mr.Trump from national politics in that articial way. Even if they wanted to, that would only bring social unrest and even more political crisis to Republican party.
His supporters are already saying these investigations are unlawful and targeted against a political candidate. Pushing further enough could unleash more violence.

Also, Mr. Trump was always unpopular in New York city so, I do not think that state has an important role in the future of his presidential campaign, it is a blue state and does not have as many electoral colleges as California or Texas.

In politics the opposition is always looking for something that they can use to bring down the opposition candidate is very strong to bring them down. Just like in my country, the incumbent Parry is looking for all means to deal with the opposition parties. So Trump should also be prepared to face such challenges. Trump has been accused of different  types of accusations because they know he is the only candidate that defeat the opposition party if only free and fair election is conduct ed.

[Betwrong]

Good observation. Is it worth betting on Kamala Harris now, in your opinion? I mean the odds are even better for us gamblers today, around 12.00, but closer to the elections they may drop significantly. Her chances of being nominated are less than 50% imo, but not less than 10%.

That's what I am saying. There is a very high chance (IMO) that Biden won't be healthy enough to run for election in 2024. 18 months is very long time, and lot of things can happen. And in case Biden can't run for POTUS, then who will be the alternate choice? At this point I can't think of anyone other than Kamala. And this is the reason why I am saying that Kamala's odds look crazy at this point. They should be much more favorable. But then always remember that winning the Democrat nomination is a lot different from winning the POTUS elections in 2024.

Absolutely. I bet on Kamala to be the nominee with pretty good outcome odds, 17.00



they will be lower int the future, I'm pretty sure of that, so, it's better to place your bet right now, if you believe she has a good chance. I placed a small bet on her just in case. Won't make a millionaire if I win my bet, but will be enough for a 4-pack of Guinness and a can of Pringles, I guess.

[Slow death]

Biden is eighty years old, which is old, but I don't think there's a massive risk he wouldn't be able to get to the next 18 months based on his age.

Trump is 76 so it's a bit in the same age group really.

Worth noting that neither of them drink alcohol, so they might be healthier than average.

There may not be a "massive" risk, but there is a significant risk. We are debating in this topic whether the odds that are being provided are accurate or not. And I have made it very clear that the odds for Biden (1.30) and Kamala (9.80) looks out of touch with reality. Kamala's odds should be at least in the 3.00-4.00 range. A lot of things can go wrong for Biden in the next 18 months (just saying about the possibilities). And it's not just the health. The economy is not doing very good, and there is always a chance of another COVID wave.

source: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/us/politics/presidential-candidates-2024.html

I don't know if the odds are the same or have changed, but putting odds of @1.30 for Biden and @9.80 for Kamala in my opinion is very well within reality, the Democrats are like the polite party in my country, even the Republicans have them too the same thought that when a candidate is elected president they are counting on that candidate to stay two terms, he just has to leave when his 2 terms are over, the Democrats are unlikely to want to change biden while he can still complete his second term and they will keep Kamala as your vice president

even only republicans did not stop trump from running for the second term years ago after he completed and 1 term, they knew that biden is doing well in the polls but trump was the president of the USA and he was running for the second term, if the republicans had prevented trump from running so public opinion would look at this decision as if the trump government had not done good governance and of course as trump and the republicans then the party would also be frowned upon, and the same thing as the biden situation, remove biden to put another candidate will not go well with the public opinion

[Sithara007]

Absolutely. I bet on Kamala to be the nominee with pretty good outcome odds, 17.00



they will be lower int the future, I'm pretty sure of that, so, it's better to place your bet right now, if you believe she has a good chance. I placed a small bet on her just in case. Won't make a millionaire if I win my bet, but will be enough for a 4-pack of Guinness and a can of Pringles, I guess.

I don't know what to say about these odds. They seem so far away from reality. At this point, Kamala is the second most probable Democrat nominee for the POTUS 2024 elections. Given this, odds of 17.00 for her sounds outright crazy. In case Biden decided to run again in 2024 (which he has done), then I don't believe that anyone form his party would challenge him (obviously Kennedy is an exception). But there is a real possibility that Biden would not be able to run in 2024, either due to ailing health, or due to scandals (Hunter Biden story?).

[ChiBitCTy]

Allegedly they were not going to go after Trump, because there was not precedent of a President or a former president being charged with a crime and any state or federal prosecutor could feel intimidated by going down on history for being the person who decided to do so.

The message the Prosecutors from NYC want to give to the rest of the states where Trump is under investigation is that no one is above the law. It is kind of a breaking point that was supposed to happen, so people leading the most serious investigation won't be afraid anymore of the historical matters of going after him first.  Let us see how that plays out, though.

And the thing is that if NYC does it first, then maybe the other few will be remembered but after that it would become ordinary. Like the 17th state to open an investigation to him won't be remembered at all, nobody would know that, but if you are the first then you will be remembered and maybe the second and third could be and I doubt even that much. So all in all NYC basically said the other states "I got this, let me take the heat about it, so you can do it easier" and now anyone else can.

The point also is that Trump may get banned on begin elected there, not saying he will be but there is a chance, anyone who loses ALL of New York's power, will not be elected, no matter where else they can get the votes from hence it is definitely a "you are not going to be the nominee" move for sure.

I don't think they will go as far as isolating Mr.Trump from national politics in that articial way. Even if they wanted to, that would only bring social unrest and even more political crisis to Republican party.
His supporters are already saying these investigations are unlawful and targeted against a political candidate. Pushing further enough could unleash more violence.

Also, Mr. Trump was always unpopular in New York city so, I do not think that state has an important role in the future of his presidential campaign, it is a blue state and does not have as many electoral colleges as California or Texas.

In politics the opposition is always looking for something that they can use to bring down the opposition candidate is very strong to bring them down. Just like in my country, the incumbent Parry is looking for all means to deal with the opposition parties. So Trump should also be prepared to face such challenges. Trump has been accused of different  types of accusations because they know he is the only candidate that defeat the opposition party if only free and fair election is conduct ed.

"Trump has been accused of different  types of accusations because they know he is the only candidate that defeat the opposition party if only free and fair election is conduct ed".  No, this is not true.  As someone whom lives in the United States, there are people Like Ron DeSantis who absolutely would have a shot against Biden. 

I'm not placing any bets on this yet.. to hard to tell what's what at this moment.  Personally I wish we could get new candidates across the board.  Anyhow, as soon as both parties picks are locked it, my bet will be placed.

[Hispo]

Allegedly they were not going to go after Trump, because there was not precedent of a President or a former president being charged with a crime and any state or federal prosecutor could feel intimidated by going down on history for being the person who decided to do so.

The message the Prosecutors from NYC want to give to the rest of the states where Trump is under investigation is that no one is above the law. It is kind of a breaking point that was supposed to happen, so people leading the most serious investigation won't be afraid anymore of the historical matters of going after him first.  Let us see how that plays out, though.

And the thing is that if NYC does it first, then maybe the other few will be remembered but after that it would become ordinary. Like the 17th state to open an investigation to him won't be remembered at all, nobody would know that, but if you are the first then you will be remembered and maybe the second and third could be and I doubt even that much. So all in all NYC basically said the other states "I got this, let me take the heat about it, so you can do it easier" and now anyone else can.

The point also is that Trump may get banned on begin elected there, not saying he will be but there is a chance, anyone who loses ALL of New York's power, will not be elected, no matter where else they can get the votes from hence it is definitely a "you are not going to be the nominee" move for sure.

I don't think they will go as far as isolating Mr.Trump from national politics in that articial way. Even if they wanted to, that would only bring social unrest and even more political crisis to Republican party.
His supporters are already saying these investigations are unlawful and targeted against a political candidate. Pushing further enough could unleash more violence.

Also, Mr. Trump was always unpopular in New York city so, I do not think that state has an important role in the future of his presidential campaign, it is a blue state and does not have as many electoral colleges as California or Texas.

In politics the opposition is always looking for something that they can use to bring down the opposition candidate is very strong to bring them down. Just like in my country, the incumbent Parry is looking for all means to deal with the opposition parties. So Trump should also be prepared to face such challenges. Trump has been accused of different  types of accusations because they know he is the only candidate that defeat the opposition party if only free and fair election is conduct ed.

"Trump has been accused of different  types of accusations because they know he is the only candidate that defeat the opposition party if only free and fair election is conduct ed".  No, this is not true.  As someone whom lives in the United States, there are people Like Ron DeSantis who absolutely would have a shot against Biden. 

I'm not placing any bets on this yet.. to hard to tell what's what at this moment.  Personally I wish we could get new candidates across the board.  Anyhow, as soon as both parties picks are locked it, my bet will be placed.

Much people have this idea that Trump is the only strong man left in the party and the only one who could beat Biden, even though it is not an absolute true. The fact is that Trump has changed the game and the way politics are conducted in the United States. The voters now are more aware of the state of the establishment and are more prone to distrust candidates like Mike Pence, Pompeo and De Santis.

That is why Trump is so respected and feared, because with the control he has on the base, he can easily leave out the game traditional politicians who otherwise would get the nomination easily. As long as he is in the party things won't be the same as before and if he managed to build a political dinasty with his adult children as candidates in the future, then it is safe to say that the Republican party won't come back to be what used to in the 2000-2010s.

[Sithara007]

Much people have this idea that Trump is the only strong man left in the party and the only one who could beat Biden, even though it is not an absolute true. The fact is that Trump has changed the game and the way politics are conducted in the United States. The voters now are more aware of the state of the establishment and are more prone to distrust candidates like Mike Pence, Pompeo and De Santis.

That is why Trump is so respected and feared, because with the control he has on the base, he can easily leave out the game traditional politicians who otherwise would get the nomination easily. As long as he is in the party things won't be the same as before and if he managed to build a political dinasty with his adult children as candidates in the future, then it is safe to say that the Republican party won't come back to be what used to in the 2000-2010s.

There is no doubt that Trump is "strong". But the question is whether he is loyal to the party or not. If you remember, after he lost the 2020 POTUS elections, he refused to campaign for the GOP candidates in Georgia. And this resulted in the loss of at least one senate seat (and possibly 2) for the Republican party. Trump is very selfish and he only cares about himself. Even during the 2022 midterm elections, he supported a number of "unelectable" candidates during the senate races (Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania as an example), and this resulted in poor performance for the GOP.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think that they cover Trump more so that Trump gets much more attention, he is one of the beings that attracts the most, the speeches, what he wants to indicate are things that not all the candidates dare to say, maybe that's why it is that he is so popular, and I have seen a lot of information where they emphasize that Trump will return to the presidency, I don't know if the common Citizen of the USA likes Trump's style, in his previous Term did they like what he did? although the wall was never built and that is something that really took away a lot of popularity and weight from his mandate.

On the other hand, there is a lot of uncertainty regarding his situation, it is not known how it will turn out, he pleaded not guilty to the charges that accused him,it remains to be seen how he comes out of all this.

I don't necessarily agree with any of this. Back in 2016, Trump was relatively unknown and he needed whatever publicity he gets. And that worked to his advantage. Media channels such as MSNBC and CNN constantly targeted him, creating a sympathy wave in favor of Trump among the white working class. But the situation changed in 2020. Trump was well known, and his radical views polarized the voters. And unfortunately for him, the number of voters who opposed him remained much higher than those supporting him, and this situation remains to this day.

Yes,you are right in this, the truth is that what strikes me is that after this problem that Trump has, under which he was declared not guilty, it causes an effect contrary to what the world believes, instead of making it sink, what it does is that Trump gains much more popularity, the truth is I don't even want to imagine what the Scenario would be if Trump wins, what would the war process be like? What immigration is in the USA?All those immigration Policies that exist,I know that they are in force for 2 years, but with an amendment I Imagine that you can decline them, these things are quite strong that can come.

[nullama]

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There is no doubt that Trump is "strong". But the question is whether he is loyal to the party or not. If you remember, after he lost the 2020 POTUS elections, he refused to campaign for the GOP candidates in Georgia. And this resulted in the loss of at least one senate seat (and possibly 2) for the Republican party. Trump is very selfish and he only cares about himself. Even during the 2022 midterm elections, he supported a number of "unelectable" candidates during the senate races (Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania as an example), and this resulted in poor performance for the GOP.

At the end of the day I'm sure Trump will be the at least close to become the next president.

And Biden will be there as well, both of them, at around 50%.

I'm not sure how people would feel about it. Another term for their president?, both have already served. You can see what they have done in real life.

Maybe some people want a third option, but I don't think there is.