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March 07, 2023, 03:23:50 PM
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Donaire will ask for 60% of the purse and the fight will stall. He is using his position to demand more money but I think it is because he is scared of losing and does not want that on his record close to his retirement and if he takes the fight he will want a lot of money for the risk. He could just schedule 2/3 lower profile fights and end his career and I think that will happen because there is no way his opponents will accept 30-40% of the purse to fight him.

Hmm, Donaire scared of losing at this point in his career? I really doubt that.

If he does, then we shouldn't see him having a rematch with Naoya Inoue where he already knows how dominant the monster is during their first meetup even suffering a fatal blow from him but still ended with Inoue winning a "unanimous decision".

Using his position to demand more money? The WBC assigned his next scheduled fight for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title which does make sense because he's the current Rank 1 on WBC's bantamweight rankings and regardless of the split, it will be pushed through.
Both Moloney and Donaire are not scared to face each other, both faced Inoue knowing they were underdogs and were expected to get KO'd. When the WBC announced both fighters to face each other, team Moloney in Australia was interviewed and they were very excited about the fight and are hoping that they can bring the fight to Australia. I haven't heard nor read Donaire's reaction to the announcement but there is no way that he is scared of Moloney too. It was Bob Arum, the promoter of Moloney that issued the statement that they no longer want to pursue the WBC belt saying they do not want to get involved with Probellum (Donaire's promoter) after it was linked to the Kinahans (a powerful Irish mob wanted in the US). Whether Arum is just using an alibi (he's been linked with the Kinahans too) or not, the cancellation was not because of Moloney or Donaire. I believe Arum realized that the WBO route is far easier for Moloney to become a champion.   

With regard to the purse split. Isn't it 50/50 when it is for a vacant belt? Unless a deal is reached to avoid a purse bid. So I doubt Donaire demanded the bigger purse. Unless Probellum can offer a satisfying offer to Santiago to prevent a purse bid which would probably guarantee a bigger purse for Donaire since he is obviously the bigger market of the two.

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March 07, 2023, 06:13:18 PM
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Donaire will ask for 60% of the purse and the fight will stall. He is using his position to demand more money but I think it is because he is scared of losing and does not want that on his record close to his retirement and if he takes the fight he will want a lot of money for the risk. He could just schedule 2/3 lower profile fights and end his career and I think that will happen because there is no way his opponents will accept 30-40% of the purse to fight him.

Hmm, Donaire scared of losing at this point in his career? I really doubt that.

If he does, then we shouldn't see him having a rematch with Naoya Inoue where he already knows how dominant the monster is during their first meetup even suffering a fatal blow from him but still ended with Inoue winning a "unanimous decision".

Using his position to demand more money? The WBC assigned his next scheduled fight for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title which does make sense because he's the current Rank 1 on WBC's bantamweight rankings and regardless of the split, it will be pushed through.
Both Moloney and Donaire are not scared to face each other, both faced Inoue knowing they were underdogs and were expected to get KO'd. When the WBC announced both fighters to face each other, team Moloney in Australia was interviewed and they were very excited about the fight and are hoping that they can bring the fight to Australia. I haven't heard nor read Donaire's reaction to the announcement but there is no way that he is scared of Moloney too. It was Bob Arum, the promoter of Moloney that issued the statement that they no longer want to pursue the WBC belt saying they do not want to get involved with Probellum (Donaire's promoter) after it was linked to the Kinahans (a powerful Irish mob wanted in the US). Whether Arum is just using an alibi (he's been linked with the Kinahans too) or not, the cancellation was not because of Moloney or Donaire. I believe Arum realized that the WBO route is far easier for Moloney to become a champion.   

With regard to the purse split. Isn't it 50/50 when it is for a vacant belt? Unless a deal is reached to avoid a purse bid. So I doubt Donaire demanded the bigger purse. Unless Probellum can offer a satisfying offer to Santiago to prevent a purse bid which would probably guarantee a bigger purse for Donaire since he is obviously the bigger market of the two.

I see, I don't know that but yes I believe that Moloney nor Donaire is not afraid to face each other, it might a good fight between the two if Arum didn't announce that they are no longer interested to proceed with that negotiation, I see the point maybe Arum see some more money with the other route and knowing him, he will go where the money is flowing.

For now, let's wait for the upcoming fight with those belts that Inoue left and see who are the new champ that will win the title.

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March 08, 2023, 05:23:30 PM
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That was a good fight anyway. Everyone thought Magsayo is gonna win with a TKO judging on the early rounds where he landed good punches on Figueroa. However, Figueroa just showed what a good stamina and a good chin can do to last the fight and redeem yourself on the later rounds when your opponent is exhausted. Figueroa absorbed a lot of power punches, but didn't even get stunned. Magsayo on the other hand, got exhausted on the later rounds that resulted on a 2 point deduction due to holding. If he did not do that, he might have kissed the canvass already.
Well, that's how it is and the result should be. That was still a good fight.

He still needs to train more to get his stamina up, this is pretty much clear Mark Magsayo has done a pretty good job but not an excellent one because he still left Brandon Figueroa wins the fight, but yeah that stamina depletion is a real problem for Magsayo and his camp will need to look in it even further and access magsayo's stamina



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March 08, 2023, 06:01:10 PM
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I thought Beterbiev wanted to fight Bivol as well? He even goes to the public and says that he wanted to unify,  but maybe Bob Arum doesn't want to as this point and let Beterbiev enjoy his win against Yarde. But I do believed sooner or later they are going to face each other in the future. And then Bivol going for Canelo's belt at 168 lbs.
It's unclear lol, if you search on google you will find the article where Beterbiev don't want to fight with Bivol and the other article said Beterbiev want to fight with Bivol. However I don't think Canelo will accept to have a rematch with Bivol at 168 lbs because will think what's the point if I win and didn't get anything? I believe the rematch will be at light heavyweight division, but they will offer higher payment to Bivol.

Same with the rematch mate, we really can't say if it is a done deal with 168 lbs or 175 lbs. There were interviews through Eddie Hearn that says Bivol wanted to go down or willing at least to try 168 lbs as long as Canelo is going to put his SMW belt. But there's article also pointing out that Bivol wanted the rematch at 175 lbs because that's where he beat Canelo. So right now the picture is not clear yet. Maybe Canelo wanted a tune up fight with Ryder this year and then made his decision next for a Bivol rematch. He is still the A-side and most likely will call the shots even if he loss the first time against Bivol.

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March 08, 2023, 07:01:11 PM
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Donaire will ask for 60% of the purse and the fight will stall. He is using his position to demand more money but I think it is because he is scared of losing and does not want that on his record close to his retirement and if he takes the fight he will want a lot of money for the risk. He could just schedule 2/3 lower profile fights and end his career and I think that will happen because there is no way his opponents will accept 30-40% of the purse to fight him.

Hmm, Donaire scared of losing at this point in his career? I really doubt that.

If he does, then we shouldn't see him having a rematch with Naoya Inoue where he already knows how dominant the monster is during their first meetup even suffering a fatal blow from him but still ended with Inoue winning a "unanimous decision".

Using his position to demand more money? The WBC assigned his next scheduled fight for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title which does make sense because he's the current Rank 1 on WBC's bantamweight rankings and regardless of the split, it will be pushed through.
Both Moloney and Donaire are not scared to face each other, both faced Inoue knowing they were underdogs and were expected to get KO'd. When the WBC announced both fighters to face each other, team Moloney in Australia was interviewed and they were very excited about the fight and are hoping that they can bring the fight to Australia. I haven't heard nor read Donaire's reaction to the announcement but there is no way that he is scared of Moloney too. It was Bob Arum, the promoter of Moloney that issued the statement that they no longer want to pursue the WBC belt saying they do not want to get involved with Probellum (Donaire's promoter) after it was linked to the Kinahans (a powerful Irish mob wanted in the US). Whether Arum is just using an alibi (he's been linked with the Kinahans too) or not, the cancellation was not because of Moloney or Donaire. I believe Arum realized that the WBO route is far easier for Moloney to become a champion.   

With regard to the purse split. Isn't it 50/50 when it is for a vacant belt? Unless a deal is reached to avoid a purse bid. So I doubt Donaire demanded the bigger purse. Unless Probellum can offer a satisfying offer to Santiago to prevent a purse bid which would probably guarantee a bigger purse for Donaire since he is obviously the bigger market of the two.

Yes, I've read that too where Bob Arum doesn't like to be in a business with Probellum's top brass, Schaefer, but I doubt that it is one of the major reasons why the Moloney-Donaire fight didn't materalize. In one article, it was Moloney's camp who decided not pursue the fight with Donaire and later on, it was Bob Arum who announced it as he is the promoter of Moloney but back then it wasn't known at first that they are targeting a different belt. Which rises some speculations that Moloney might ducked Donaire in-order to have a much less risky fight.

Top Rank and Probellum wasn't the key factor why the fight didn't happen because a certain match (Inoue-Butler unification fight) already happened just recently despite Schaefer's issue. And now Top Rank is hiding behind that excuse? Too shallow.
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March 08, 2023, 07:11:42 PM
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I thought Beterbiev wanted to fight Bivol as well? He even goes to the public and says that he wanted to unify,  but maybe Bob Arum doesn't want to as this point and let Beterbiev enjoy his win against Yarde. But I do believed sooner or later they are going to face each other in the future. And then Bivol going for Canelo's belt at 168 lbs.
It's unclear lol, if you search on google you will find the article where Beterbiev don't want to fight with Bivol and the other article said Beterbiev want to fight with Bivol. However I don't think Canelo will accept to have a rematch with Bivol at 168 lbs because will think what's the point if I win and didn't get anything? I believe the rematch will be at light heavyweight division, but they will offer higher payment to Bivol.

Well the truth is, the governing bodies are not allowing Dmitry Bivol to proceed with the fight against Beterbiev where there are indeed so much at stake including the fact that he might reign as the undisputed champion at 175 not because they don't like Bivol but because of the current crisis up North.

Even before this fight talks about the unification commenced, almost every sport including the boxing industry is putting heavy pressures to any Russian athletes because of what their president did when they invade the Ukraine last February of 2022 and up until now, Putin is still advancing.

Anyway, this fight may happen though but it cannot be labeled as unification fight anymore as what I've said above, the governing bodies will not allow it.

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March 08, 2023, 08:55:15 PM
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Same with the rematch mate, we really can't say if it is a done deal with 168 lbs or 175 lbs. There were interviews through Eddie Hearn that says Bivol wanted to go down or willing at least to try 168 lbs as long as Canelo is going to put his SMW belt. But there's article also pointing out that Bivol wanted the rematch at 175 lbs because that's where he beat Canelo. So right now the picture is not clear yet. Maybe Canelo wanted a tune up fight with Ryder this year and then made his decision next for a Bivol rematch. He is still the A-side and most likely will call the shots even if he loss the first time against Bivol.
There are arguments to be made for the fight to take place at both weights, Canelo looked slow on the light heavyweight division so he may be interested on fighting Bivol on his division and beating him there, however as you said if he does this then he will not win another belt and he will only prove that he is the very best on his division, something we already knew, but if he were to lose on his home turf this will decrease his reputation in a significant way.
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March 08, 2023, 09:18:01 PM
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Same with the rematch mate, we really can't say if it is a done deal with 168 lbs or 175 lbs. There were interviews through Eddie Hearn that says Bivol wanted to go down or willing at least to try 168 lbs as long as Canelo is going to put his SMW belt. But there's article also pointing out that Bivol wanted the rematch at 175 lbs because that's where he beat Canelo. So right now the picture is not clear yet. Maybe Canelo wanted a tune up fight with Ryder this year and then made his decision next for a Bivol rematch. He is still the A-side and most likely will call the shots even if he loss the first time against Bivol.
There are arguments to be made for the fight to take place at both weights, Canelo looked slow on the light heavyweight division so he may be interested on fighting Bivol on his division and beating him there, however as you said if he does this then he will not win another belt and he will only prove that he is the very best on his division, something we already knew, but if he were to lose on his home turf this will decrease his reputation in a significant way.

That is the big question as of now and sadly, it might take a while before we can have any answers regarding the question whether the rematch of Bivol and Canelo will happen at 168 or 175.

And as per boxrec, Canelo Alvarez already have a fight scheduled this coming 6th of May. The information regarding the upcoming fight is not yet filled but people are already assuming that it will be John Ryder.

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March 08, 2023, 11:58:54 PM
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Since the list includes a lot of boxers, I think it's worth a share here: Top 50 Highest-Paid Athletes of All Time.

It include, maybe some of the names are to be expected like Floyd and still the active Canelo Alvarez although he barely made the cut.

No. 8:   Floyd Mayweather: $1.41B; $1.11B
No. 16: Mike Tyson: $875M; $455M
No. 21: Manny Pacquiao: $725M; $560M
No. 24: George Foreman: $680M; $355M  
No. 27: Oscar De La Hoya: $665M; $410.3M
No. 38: Evander Holyfield: $600M; $310.2M
No. 48: Canelo Alvarez: $525M; $460M

And so if you have questions about the methodology,

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Our earnings estimates are based on conversations with industry insiders, Sportico research and historical estimates in media outlets, such as Forbes and Sports Illustrated.

Earnings include salaries, bonuses, prize money, purses, endorsements, licensing, royalties, memorabilia, book deals, media, appearances and golf course design fees. We included cash earned from equity stakes in sponsor companies, like James’ stake in Beats Electronics, Durant’s share of Postmates and James Harden’s piece of BodyArmor. We did not factor in traditional investment income.

Sportico included earnings during playing careers and retirement through 2022 and adjusted them for inflation. Earnings are calculated up until the time of death for Palmer and Kobe Bryant. All earnings are pre-tax and before any fees for agents and lawyers.

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But apparently, Bivol is willing to go down to 168 lbs and fight Canelo as long as Alvarez is willing to put his belt on the line.

That makes sense since it's already clear from the start that Bivol will only take the rematch against Canelo with the belt on the line.

But I'm not aware of it honestly that Bivol is willing to go down. As far as my knowledge is concerned, it's Canelo's camp doing the run.

Regardless though, a fight with Beterbiev or Canelo is a good one for Bivol. Let's see.
For Bivol it makes more sense to fight Canelo first and then fight Beterbiev, Canelo supposedly wants a rematch and this means a lot of money for Bivol against an opponent he dominated clearly, if Bivol is willing to go down a division this also benefits him as in the case he were to lose he will not lose his title on the light heavyweight division and he will still retain the right to fight Beterbiev for the undisputed, while at the same time it gives both parties more time to agree to a date and a venue for the fight to take place.

I had always seen the manifesto of a boxer going up in category, because that gives more privilege, but going down in category is something that does not look very good, of course there are many things at stake, perhaps money is a great incentive, however If I wanted to see Bivol fight with Canelo again, I personally would like to see her, but it is preferable that Canelo go up in category than that the Russian has to go down, perhaps he would be minimizing his level, instead of me Bivol would seek to move up a category, since he represents more money and fights with higher level boxers, well maybe it is a radical way of thinking, but I consider that it is much better.

Mark Magsayo lost again in a crucial fight for a belt, it is true no Filipino boxer right now doesn't have a belt, and it is really frustrating but at the same time feel's OK about it at the same time, but Here are the result of my picks

That was a good fight anyway. Everyone thought Magsayo is gonna win with a TKO judging on the early rounds where he landed good punches on Figueroa. However, Figueroa just showed what a good stamina and a good chin can do to last the fight and redeem yourself on the later rounds when your opponent is exhausted. Figueroa absorbed a lot of power punches, but didn't even get stunned. Magsayo on the other hand, got exhausted on the later rounds that resulted on a 2 point deduction due to holding. If he did not do that, he might have kissed the canvass already.
Well, that's how it is and the result should be. That was still a good fight.

Yes, it was Magsayo on the first half of the fight and then Figueroa took the second half specially in the championship rounds as Magsayo shows his weakness again, he runs out of gas in that fight, he as so tired that he just want to survived. But the score though, even if there is a 2 point deduction, it should be very close and when you look at the score, it seems that it was a domination by Figueroa but it is not. Anyhow, he is still very young, and make just a few tweaks on his training, he can be a world champion again.

Well, in that I agree with you, Magsayo has a lot of potential, and although it sounds something very basic, Magsayo's mistake was not in his fight, he did everything very well, the obvious mistake was in his training because it can be seen that due to his performance could not do much, and I am 100% sure that it was due to lack of training harder, if a boxer trains to train and does not work on strength, speed and resistance it is very difficult for him to win, not even having a lot of talent can he win now As the body receives blows it becomes more exhausted, so for me hard training is essential.

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March 09, 2023, 08:19:24 PM
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Since the list includes a lot of boxers, I think it's worth a share here: Top 50 Highest-Paid Athletes of All Time.

It include, maybe some of the names are to be expected like Floyd and still the active Canelo Alvarez although he barely made the cut.

No. 8:   Floyd Mayweather: $1.41B; $1.11B
No. 16: Mike Tyson: $875M; $455M
No. 21: Manny Pacquiao: $725M; $560M
No. 24: George Foreman: $680M; $355M  
No. 27: Oscar De La Hoya: $665M; $410.3M
No. 38: Evander Holyfield: $600M; $310.2M
No. 48: Canelo Alvarez: $525M; $460M

And so if you have questions about the methodology,

Quote
Our earnings estimates are based on conversations with industry insiders, Sportico research and historical estimates in media outlets, such as Forbes and Sports Illustrated.

Earnings include salaries, bonuses, prize money, purses, endorsements, licensing, royalties, memorabilia, book deals, media, appearances and golf course design fees. We included cash earned from equity stakes in sponsor companies, like James’ stake in Beats Electronics, Durant’s share of Postmates and James Harden’s piece of BodyArmor. We did not factor in traditional investment income.

Sportico included earnings during playing careers and retirement through 2022 and adjusted them for inflation. Earnings are calculated up until the time of death for Palmer and Kobe Bryant. All earnings are pre-tax and before any fees for agents and lawyers.

https://www.sportico.com/personalities/athletes/2023/highest-paid-athletes-all-time-michael-jordan-1234711433/


I wonder what number is Conor McGregor on that list, now I know that what you showed are only the boxers and their respective spots but I have no doubts whether if he's included in the list or not because on his fight with Mayweather Jr., he amassed at least a guaranteed $100 Million on that fight alone and he also claimed that he made a whooping $50 Million from his fight with Khabib.

Anyway, at least Canelo Alvarez made the cut because he is already not that active in the sport lately as his foes are now lesser because he already cleaned-up his division and then he got a surgery recently which affects the timeline of his fights.
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March 09, 2023, 08:26:35 PM
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He is on the list, number 33 in rankings with:

33   Conor McGregor   $615M   $530M

https://www.sportico.com/feature/highest-paid-athletes-all-time-1234711562/

So that is huge money for him throughout his career in UFC

For Canelo, no doubt, he did sign a massive contract when he severe his ties with Golden Boy and move to DAZN and it's like $300m if I'm not mistaken, and will have like 5 more fights in his career. And Floyd keeps making money with this exhibition matches in the last 3 years or so.

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He is on the list, number 33 in rankings with:

33   Conor McGregor   $615M   $530M

https://www.sportico.com/feature/highest-paid-athletes-all-time-1234711562/

So that is huge money for him throughout his career in UFC

For Canelo, no doubt, he did sign a massive contract when he severe his ties with Golden Boy and move to DAZN and it's like $300m if I'm not mistaken, and will have like 5 more fights in his career. And Floyd keeps making money with this exhibition matches in the last 3 years or so.

Those digits are not from UFC alone because he did have a nice big payday when he agreed to fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a boxing fight, which I bet was his biggest payday in his entire career up to this point.
Although that certain fight was ruled as professional fight, McGregor cannot really defeat someone like Mayweather because UFC is very much different in boxing and the same thing will happen to Mayweather if he will face McGregor in the octagon.
About Mayweather Jr. though, the man will always be in the list and will always be included in the Top 10 as long as he will still have his exhibition fights.

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March 09, 2023, 09:34:26 PM
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He is on the list, number 33 in rankings with:

33   Conor McGregor   $615M   $530M

https://www.sportico.com/feature/highest-paid-athletes-all-time-1234711562/

So that is huge money for him throughout his career in UFC

For Canelo, no doubt, he did sign a massive contract when he severe his ties with Golden Boy and move to DAZN and it's like $300m if I'm not mistaken, and will have like 5 more fights in his career. And Floyd keeps making money with this exhibition matches in the last 3 years or so.

Those digits are not from UFC alone because he did have a nice big payday when he agreed to fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a boxing fight, which I bet was his biggest payday in his entire career up to this point.
Although that certain fight was ruled as professional fight, McGregor cannot really defeat someone like Mayweather because UFC is very much different in boxing and the same thing will happen to Mayweather if he will face McGregor in the octagon.
About Mayweather Jr. though, the man will always be in the list and will always be included in the Top 10 as long as he will still have his exhibition fights.

That's a big payday for him and for sure until now he still enjoying that huge amount of paycheck after the exhibition match against Mayweather, though it surely place or being recognized as pro boxing event even it's only an exhibition but in terms of the amount that's very decent and even he will fight long inside UFC he won't earn that.

Speaking about Mayweather, we know the "Money" he will always be included as long as there are exhibition match that will be negotiated. He will make money in each fight that he will take.

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March 09, 2023, 09:45:08 PM
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Same with the rematch mate, we really can't say if it is a done deal with 168 lbs or 175 lbs. There were interviews through Eddie Hearn that says Bivol wanted to go down or willing at least to try 168 lbs as long as Canelo is going to put his SMW belt. But there's article also pointing out that Bivol wanted the rematch at 175 lbs because that's where he beat Canelo. So right now the picture is not clear yet. Maybe Canelo wanted a tune up fight with Ryder this year and then made his decision next for a Bivol rematch. He is still the A-side and most likely will call the shots even if he loss the first time against Bivol.
There are arguments to be made for the fight to take place at both weights, Canelo looked slow on the light heavyweight division so he may be interested on fighting Bivol on his division and beating him there, however as you said if he does this then he will not win another belt and he will only prove that he is the very best on his division, something we already knew, but if he were to lose on his home turf this will decrease his reputation in a significant way.

That is the big question as of now and sadly, it might take a while before we can have any answers regarding the question whether the rematch of Bivol and Canelo will happen at 168 or 175.

And as per boxrec, Canelo Alvarez already have a fight scheduled this coming 6th of May. The information regarding the upcoming fight is not yet filled but people are already assuming that it will be John Ryder.

It is John Ryder as we all have been speculating, even his manager says it's him. Maybe we are just waiting for the official announcement as when the fight is going to happen as they are waiting for Canelo's hand to heal 100%.

So John Ryder first for Canelo in his comeback, and maybe Bivol will also have a tune up fight this year because I hear that they are names already for his next fight as well, but I can't remember the name if it is Buatsi or someone.

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March 09, 2023, 10:54:10 PM
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He is on the list, number 33 in rankings with:

33   Conor McGregor   $615M   $530M

https://www.sportico.com/feature/highest-paid-athletes-all-time-1234711562/

So that is huge money for him throughout his career in UFC

For Canelo, no doubt, he did sign a massive contract when he severe his ties with Golden Boy and move to DAZN and it's like $300m if I'm not mistaken, and will have like 5 more fights in his career. And Floyd keeps making money with this exhibition matches in the last 3 years or so.

Those digits are not from UFC alone because he did have a nice big payday when he agreed to fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a boxing fight, which I bet was his biggest payday in his entire career up to this point.
Although that certain fight was ruled as professional fight, McGregor cannot really defeat someone like Mayweather because UFC is very much different in boxing and the same thing will happen to Mayweather if he will face McGregor in the octagon.
About Mayweather Jr. though, the man will always be in the list and will always be included in the Top 10 as long as he will still have his exhibition fights.

That's a big payday for him and for sure until now he still enjoying that huge amount of paycheck after the exhibition match against Mayweather, though it surely place or being recognized as pro boxing event even it's only an exhibition but in terms of the amount that's very decent and even he will fight long inside UFC he won't earn that.

Speaking about Mayweather, we know the "Money" he will always be included as long as there are exhibition match that will be negotiated. He will make money in each fight that he will take.

Yeah, Floyd really uses his God given talent to make a lot of money out of boxing, fights like against Oscar Dela Hoya, Manny Pacquiao and Conor McGregor really put him way above any boxers in our generations with more than $1 Billion already.

Manny Pacquiao too, one of the biggest cash cows in his prime, make tons of money and if you are going to convert it to PH Peso, it's billion already, so one of the riches person in our country.


And in boxing news, GGG vacated his  WBA Middleweight Title

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“Mr. Golovkin has requested that I contact you in order to communicate his intentions moving forward,” John Hornewer, attorney for Golovkin and GGG Promotions informed the WBA via official letter, a copy of which was obtained by BoxingScene.com. “Gennadiy Golovkin is proud to have reigned as the WBA Super Champion and to have unified the Middleweight titles in Japan against Ryoto Murata last year. Gennadiy thanks the WBA for its support during that process and during his career.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gennadiy-golovkin-relinquishes-wba-middleweight-title-erislandy-lara-upgraded-full-titlist--172992

So GGG doesn't have any titles, as he also relinquishes his IBF belt.

And this open up a lot of speculations. Maybe he is going to retire for good, or go one last fight at 168 lbs?

 
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March 10, 2023, 12:25:40 PM
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He is on the list, number 33 in rankings with:

33   Conor McGregor   $615M   $530M

https://www.sportico.com/feature/highest-paid-athletes-all-time-1234711562/

So that is huge money for him throughout his career in UFC

For Canelo, no doubt, he did sign a massive contract when he severe his ties with Golden Boy and move to DAZN and it's like $300m if I'm not mistaken, and will have like 5 more fights in his career. And Floyd keeps making money with this exhibition matches in the last 3 years or so.

Those digits are not from UFC alone because he did have a nice big payday when he agreed to fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a boxing fight, which I bet was his biggest payday in his entire career up to this point.
Although that certain fight was ruled as professional fight, McGregor cannot really defeat someone like Mayweather because UFC is very much different in boxing and the same thing will happen to Mayweather if he will face McGregor in the octagon.
About Mayweather Jr. though, the man will always be in the list and will always be included in the Top 10 as long as he will still have his exhibition fights.

We can't argue with those numbers though, one thing for sure though is that McGregor has earn a lot throughout his career, and we don't know if he is going back again to fight in UFC or just in exhibition matches, in case any still + for him in the future.

True for Floyd, he is going to be included not just in boxing, but in all sports, with the huge money he has earn in his career.

Retired at 50-0. PPV numbers in top of the list for boxing.

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And in boxing news, GGG vacated his  WBA Middleweight Title

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“Mr. Golovkin has requested that I contact you in order to communicate his intentions moving forward,” John Hornewer, attorney for Golovkin and GGG Promotions informed the WBA via official letter, a copy of which was obtained by BoxingScene.com. “Gennadiy Golovkin is proud to have reigned as the WBA Super Champion and to have unified the Middleweight titles in Japan against Ryoto Murata last year. Gennadiy thanks the WBA for its support during that process and during his career.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gennadiy-golovkin-relinquishes-wba-middleweight-title-erislandy-lara-upgraded-full-titlist--172992

So GGG doesn't have any titles, as he also relinquishes his IBF belt.

And this open up a lot of speculations. Maybe he is going to retire for good, or go one last fight at 168 lbs?


Hopefully, he will just retire for good. Even in that Murata fight, he looked too old and he was saved by his gifted powerful punch. He is already small at middleweight so at this stage of his career, it'll be scary for his health if he wants to continue fighting at 168. Maybe he can get an easy fight so he can retire with a win.

Time flies really fast. It seems like it was only a few years ago when GGG was then based in Germany just like his Universum stablemate Marco Maidana and then they entered the US and made a name for themselves. Such a very humble guy and is very straightforward with his goal which is to collect all the belts. Too bad he was exploited by boxing politics and was ducked for many years. Not sure if he can enter the International Boxing Hall of Fame but there is also a possibility knowing all his 2 defeats came from Canelo, a clear HOFer in the future. And he was clearly robbed in his first fight against Canelo. The 2nd fight was close and could go either way but it is very hard to win a decision against Canelo. Even Bivol and Mayweather nearly get robbed in spite of them taking Canelo to school. 

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March 11, 2023, 02:59:30 AM
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Same with the rematch mate, we really can't say if it is a done deal with 168 lbs or 175 lbs. There were interviews through Eddie Hearn that says Bivol wanted to go down or willing at least to try 168 lbs as long as Canelo is going to put his SMW belt. But there's article also pointing out that Bivol wanted the rematch at 175 lbs because that's where he beat Canelo. So right now the picture is not clear yet. Maybe Canelo wanted a tune up fight with Ryder this year and then made his decision next for a Bivol rematch. He is still the A-side and most likely will call the shots even if he loss the first time against Bivol.
There are arguments to be made for the fight to take place at both weights, Canelo looked slow on the light heavyweight division so he may be interested on fighting Bivol on his division and beating him there, however as you said if he does this then he will not win another belt and he will only prove that he is the very best on his division, something we already knew, but if he were to lose on his home turf this will decrease his reputation in a significant way.

That is the big question as of now and sadly, it might take a while before we can have any answers regarding the question whether the rematch of Bivol and Canelo will happen at 168 or 175.

And as per boxrec, Canelo Alvarez already have a fight scheduled this coming 6th of May. The information regarding the upcoming fight is not yet filled but people are already assuming that it will be John Ryder.

It is John Ryder as we all have been speculating, even his manager says it's him. Maybe we are just waiting for the official announcement as when the fight is going to happen as they are waiting for Canelo's hand to heal 100%.
Even Eddie Hearn as well has confirmed that Canelo's next fight is indeed John Ryder, right now they are just finalizing the deal so that they can push through towards their projected date which is in May. It's not that surprising that Canelo will take this path because he surely knows what would be the consequence if he will pursue Bivol immediately after his surgery without taking a tune-up fight.

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So John Ryder first for Canelo in his comeback, and maybe Bivol will also have a tune up fight this year because I hear that they are names already for his next fight as well, but I can't remember the name if it is Buatsi or someone.
Yes, Bivol might likely fight Joshua Buatsi in the next few months while Canelo is still busy on his tune-up fight. Eddie Hearn have said that they might activate the rematch and have the fight happen in September, this year.

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March 11, 2023, 08:33:14 AM
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I didn't know there were too many demands from the champion's camp just so Ryan Garcia could fight him.
https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-i-definitely-put-boxing-first-accept-lotta-stipulations-davis-fight--172999
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Garcia gave Davis a one-sided rematch clause that only Davis can exercise if Garcia upsets him April 22 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.
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The 24-year-old Garcia must adhere as well to a rehydration clause that prohibits him from weighing more than 146 pounds when he enters the ring for their Showtime Pay-Per-View main event.
The second one was kind of intriguing. Maybe because Ryan Garcia is way too big and Davis' camp is preventing him to gain more power by being heavier when the fight starts. That's a good strategy and this is the first I have heard that it could be done. This means he will be weighed again before he enters the ring.
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From Garcia’s perspective, he feels like he said yes to virtually every request because he wanted this career-defining fight so badly.
They didn't detail what other requests had been made but I like how Garcia is just trying to let the fight happen even if there are so many things that he has to accept.
This is good publicity for him too, he may pull some fans on his side for being the bullied one when it comes to the contract signing.

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