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Question: Would you let AI select your sports bets?
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December 23, 2022, 10:49:41 AM
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I’m a little bit surprised that people aren’t interested in the possibility of having AI place bets for you on sporting events. I guess the current implementation of AI would probably just pick whoever had the best odds, but I’d like to think it’s possible for it to analyze individual matchups and make a more thought out prediction. I think it’s worth giving a try and I may do it at some point. Maybe I’ll post the results so people can see.
It's definitely a unique idea, but as you've said, I think it's better for AIs to develop itself, to the point where their predictions aren't only a collation of data and identifying the better option out of the two (which kind of paints it as a yes/no question, isn't exactly wrong but I reckon there's still something more possible out of it), but also some bias that comes from say, it's development throughout its creation (I mean it has to have some if we're going to talk about AI right?).

In the end it is just going to be another prediction. Just because the AI makes it, it doesn't mean that it is going to be right all the time. Maybe (and that's a BIG maybe) it will make a difference in the long run but I think none of us have the patience to make hundreds of games to make it work. Most of us are casual gamblers and making bets in a random order.
I'd say it's an option to take as a basis, but still wouldn't be a guarantee since there are a lot of random factors involved in a match. If it was that straightforward then simulations would've probably dominated betting scenes. They might actually just be useful to rate the players instead of the match itself really, and make a prediction by yourself through that instead.

ChatGPT technology, is a breakthrough of technological innovation that is very useful for its users. helps answer user questions automatically, making it easier for users to get the information they need.  related to the title of this thread. maybe, if it's just for fun reference, that's fine. but if it's to be a reference for sports betting, I don't think so. This artificial intelligence is quite useful in all aspects of human life.

But if it is for a prediction of the results of a match, let alone one that involves betting. this really doesn't make any sense to me. just imagine, if a football match could be predicted from the results of mathematical calculations, what would football be like later. in this case artificial intelligence "AI". football is no longer fun for us to enjoy, there is no thrilling sensation, adrenaline that is racing. all the fun and enjoyment in sports, will disappear with the predictions of this artificial intelligence. fortunately, AI technology is not as good at predicting 100% accurate a sports match.

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December 23, 2022, 11:11:18 AM
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For something that has helped other industries reach their goal, why not sports betting AI is a technological breakthrough, especially in architecture, and medicine maybe just maybe AI is something that can help bookmakers to increase their prediction rate, we can speculate on something we are not aware of.
But if you Google information about AI's role in sports betting there are positive results, so why not try something that has huge potential in the sports betting industry?
https://sporttechie.com/ai-sports-betting-next-frontier
https://kifarunix.com/whats-the-role-of-ai-in-the-sports-betting-industry/
https://www.datasciencecentral.com/the-impact-of-ai-on-sports-betting-and-its-software/
Sure we can but OP was referring to ChatGPT specificly and that's pointless to use as ChatGPT latest training data cutoff is September 2021. There's no recent data for it to analyze. Meaning it couldn't count in any variations on player health, new players, new coaches etc. Nor any public AI is going to take a risk to give financial advices in for of guesswork.

There's a reason why influencers are saying that "this is not a financial advice" or are required to tell if they get paid in altcoins to speak about altcoins.
And even those accounts can be sued and kicked from twitter. Imagine how much risk can billion dollar (or what ever it's worth) company can avoid just by not giving gambling predictions.

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December 23, 2022, 03:52:33 PM
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I tried the beta version of ChatGPT to assist me in predicting a match between two club, the output it gave was that there isn't enough information to be able to predict that match accurately, I think there are more information needed to be feed into the ChatGPT for it to work effectively and efficiently, though I prefer to do a personal analysis in predicting the likely outcome of a match thereafter use ChatGPT for a confirmation purposes provided that it will analyze all the information I provided to it accurately, if the two outcomes my own analysis and that of the ChatGPT tallied then I will say it worth trying out the AI.
I heard ChatGPT have been nerfed last time because it became trendy and a lot of people are only depending on it. I think they deserved it because this makes people lazy. This can also kill the livelihood of other people because companies won't hire people anymore but they can just use a software like this to solve their own issues and they can then save a lot money.

I admit that AIs are helpful but they should have their limitations. They should not cross the line because they can do harm more than good. In conclusion, it is still better if we can depend on our own skill and not on software like this because this can make us feel superior and more confident.

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December 23, 2022, 03:59:59 PM
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I admit that AIs are helpful but they should have their limitations. They should not cross the line because they can do harm more than good. In conclusion, it is still better if we can depend on our own skill and not on software like this because this can make us feel superior and more confident.

AI is only helpful if it’s properly program to do the certain task. I doubt that proving your superiority to an AI matter if the AI itself can do the task for you to make your life easier. I don’t mind using it if the tools is giving an accurate result in terms of prediction.

Why we need to do the conventional way if can skip the analysis part using AI that will crunch all the data for us to make an analysis on the said sports? AI is using stats alone which make it an accurate in terms of prediction if all the parameters is setup properly.

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December 23, 2022, 04:27:37 PM
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?
Personally, I didn't know that it is being used to predict in sports betting or it will be use soon. Sports betting is not suited to AI, it is very unpredictable if the game is clean without dirty negotiations with different teams then winning team could be hardly to define precisely. It might be used to predict the team that has an edge among other not the outcome. If that will happen there's not thrill in the game and integrity, transparency will no longer available.
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December 23, 2022, 06:38:28 PM
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program?
Moreover, using artificial intelligence sometimes can give a better chance of winning when it comes to football, basketball and MMA prediction, simply because of it's access to a vest variety of data source needed to compare and contrast using previous head to head match results in all games mentioned above. But not all gambling games will this A.I be useful for, example slots and American roulette that has to do with luck.

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December 24, 2022, 09:21:21 PM
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Plenty of people already said no, and I think it is the right decision considering half of the fun in gambling is making your own decisions, if there is an AI that can predict the results correctly too many times in a row that will bankrupt the whole gambling world anyway. Imagine AI's at a level where it could profit you a ton, where would that money come from?

The casinos, and that means casinos will not have enough money to pay all of us, and bankrupt, and no other casino will take its place knowing you will just empty their funds. Hence, for the sake of future of gambling, I really hope that it won't happen and we can move on normally like we have done for thousands of years.

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December 27, 2022, 03:26:05 PM
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In the end it is just going to be another prediction. Just because the AI makes it, it doesn't mean that it is going to be right all the time. Maybe (and that's a BIG maybe) it will make a difference in the long run but I think none of us have the patience to make hundreds of games to make it work. Most of us are casual gamblers and making bets in a random order.

No, of course it doesn't mean that. Especially regarding this particular AI that OP is talikng about, ChatGPT. Unfortunately it has a "knowledge cutoff". Read its reply to a question about current events:



So, I think using it for sports betting would be pretty much pointless.

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No, of course it doesn't mean that. Especially regarding this particular AI that OP is talikng about, ChatGPT. Unfortunately it has a "knowledge cutoff". Read its reply to a question about current events:



So, I think using it for sports betting would be pretty much pointless.

Well, I'm not so sure that all the bookies are using absolutely up to date information about every single match around the world.

Also, sometimes teams don't face each other in years, so the odds wouldn't change that often.

I think it's a useful thing to use in certain scenarios, and I'm sure it can produce better odds than some betting companies in specific situations.

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January 04, 2023, 09:43:30 AM
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No, of course it doesn't mean that. Especially regarding this particular AI that OP is talikng about, ChatGPT. Unfortunately it has a "knowledge cutoff". Read its reply to a question about current events:



So, I think using it for sports betting would be pretty much pointless.

Well, I'm not so sure that all the bookies are using absolutely up to date information about every single match around the world.

Also, sometimes teams don't face each other in years, so the odds wouldn't change that often.

I think it's a useful thing to use in certain scenarios, and I'm sure it can produce better odds than some betting companies in specific situations.

What are you talking about, mate? Smiley Seriously, have you ever done sports betting yourself?

It's impossible to predict the outcome without the latest information regarding the medical condition of the athletes, their performance in the recent games, possible replacement of the coach or some players from the competing teams etc. Even weather forecast can be a factor.

If AI is not connected to the internet, its predictions about the outcomes can be worse than just some random picks.


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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program?
Moreover, using artificial intelligence sometimes can give a better chance of winning when it comes to football, basketball and MMA prediction, simply because of it's access to a vest variety of data source needed to compare and contrast using previous head to head match results in all games mentioned above. But not all gambling games will this A.I be useful for, example slots and American roulette that has to do with luck.
Maybe A.I can be more profitable for sports betting because they can collect the data we need faster.
But at least we still have to collect supporting data from places we are used to comparing the two data.
Thus, we will probably be able to get more valid information and our predictions will also increase.
But maybe now A.I technology still needs to be developed better to really help us collect that data.
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I don't know from for sure how AI bots work and how their algorithm are designed but ChatGBT isn't connected to the internet, so most of its contents and responses are from past years, it doesn't include recent events and if AI bots works in that manner, it will be a suicide if you wager your money on these BOTS as it wouldn't be able to optimize updates in its database, all your predictions will be on past events.

Using a bots will only complicate ones life, look at even bot bitcoin trading, they don't yield like the way human make profits, I believed the same goes with gambling. Human makes mistakes but bots would only complicate  ones  life of we  use them for predictions of events.

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I don't know from for sure how AI bots work and how their algorithm are designed but ChatGBT isn't connected to the internet, so most of its contents and responses are from past years, it doesn't include recent events and if AI bots works in that manner, it will be a suicide if you wager your money on these BOTS as it wouldn't be able to optimize updates in its database, all your predictions will be on past events.

Using a bots will only complicate ones life, look at even bot bitcoin trading, they don't yield like the way human make profits, I believed the same goes with gambling. Human makes mistakes but bots would only complicate  ones  life of we  use them for predictions of events.
Why people cant really realize these things and been still minding to be reliant with these AI's considering that their arent something that you could really assure out that it would be effective.
Just like been said that informations that would shown out would be definitely basing up into those human inputs into its library which there's no sense for you to rely on something
which is really basing up on what these things had been put up into.It could self learn but it would be just focusing into those past events just like what you said
and couldnt make out direct integration on recent or future events.
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I have seen people asked that AI with mathematical questions but with some logic for it to be answered and I'd say that it failed.

That's why if it's about sportsbetting and predictions, you can't wholly trust your decision into it. But if it's just for fun, you've got all what it takes for you to ask it but don't expect that it will be the result.

I don't know from for sure how AI bots work and how their algorithm are designed but ChatGBT isn't connected to the internet, so most of its contents and responses are from past years, it doesn't include recent events and if AI bots works in that manner
It's connected to internet thus, it can answer almost everything. But it's an AI, automated responses but not all what it says are accurately correct.

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Even though there are some terrible outcomes of this, and maybe it won't work at all yet I have to say that it could potentially be better than most people. Not because AI would be great, it is not great and it only checks the data given to it and could wager accordingly, but that doesn't mean that it is going to be 100% right, of course it could lose, but I have seen people who leave millions on the table when gambling, compared to those people it could still be better.

I wouldn't trust it myself, I would rather gamble on what I gamble and not what a software tells me to gamble but I can definitely name a few people who should, at least it won't lose as much as them.

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January 04, 2023, 09:33:56 PM
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I have seen people asked that AI with mathematical questions but with some logic for it to be answered and I'd say that it failed.

That's why if it's about sportsbetting and predictions, you can't wholly trust your decision into it. But if it's just for fun, you've got all what it takes for you to ask it but don't expect that it will be the result.

I don't know from for sure how AI bots work and how their algorithm are designed but ChatGBT isn't connected to the internet, so most of its contents and responses are from past years, it doesn't include recent events and if AI bots works in that manner
It's connected to internet thus, it can answer almost everything. But it's an AI, automated responses but not all what it says are accurately correct.
You would also notice out that those responses are purely just generic ones which its not that surprising and you are right that there are people who do trying out to test out these AI's for making out some bets
basing on what they do recommend but its true that it isnt something reliable for you to depend on.WHen it comes to logic things then it isnt something that would really be that recommended.
For the sake of testing out due to curiosity then you would be finding out for yourself and its impossible that you wont notice out about the responses been given.

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Nah, I won't trust an AI to pick on sports betting. If it were that easy. The majority should be making money now from sportsbetting which can lead to the bankruptcy of casinos, but it is not. That is enough to prove that you can not depend your bet in AI. I'd rather do my research and used my own instinct which is always a better thing to do.

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January 04, 2023, 11:52:36 PM
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Nah, I won't trust an AI to pick on sports betting. If it were that easy. The majority should be making money now from sportsbetting which can lead to the bankruptcy of casinos, but it is not. That is enough to prove that you can not depend your bet in AI. I'd rather do my research and used my own instinct which is always a better thing to do.
Casino or Sports book businesses would really be shutting that AI if ever it would really be that effective on making it use on the games that they are offering.Its just common sense that it doesnt really work.
If ever someone do make use of it and turns out to be a win then its just on pure chance and cant solidify nor able to prove out that it does work.Just the rest been saying  that if you are really that curious
on how it looks or on how it would result.It would be better if you do rely with your own knowledge when it comes to betting and it would be finding more enjoyable and entertaining.

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January 05, 2023, 10:13:27 AM
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Talking about chatgpt and gambling decisions, I happen to stumble a stream on Youtube making use of chatgpt to make a decision for his gambling activity.  He asked chatgpt to create a program that will advice him of his decision on his gambling stream session.

It is kinda interesting because at the early part of the stream, the first two suggestion of the bot created in chatgpt gives him a good win but later, the suggestion of bot leads him to a massive loss.  If you are interested on the video link, you can check here: I LET AI CHOOSE HOW I PLAY & IT MADE ME RICH!!... AI IS THE FUTURE!! (HypeDrop). The title is somehow a clickbait but I was amazed on how flexible chatgpt is.  I find the video educational since it shows the initial process of the program setup.
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January 05, 2023, 10:34:08 AM
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I have seen people asked that AI with mathematical questions but with some logic for it to be answered and I'd say that it failed.

That's why if it's about sportsbetting and predictions, you can't wholly trust your decision into it. But if it's just for fun, you've got all what it takes for you to ask it but don't expect that it will be the result.
You would also notice out that those responses are purely just generic ones which its not that surprising and you are right that there are people who do trying out to test out these AI's for making out some bets
basing on what they do recommend but its true that it isnt something reliable for you to depend on.WHen it comes to logic things then it isnt something that would really be that recommended.
For the sake of testing out due to curiosity then you would be finding out for yourself and its impossible that you wont notice out about the responses been given.
Yeah, that's what I've seen, about logical things it may not that accurate at all. But I guess in other aspects and niches, this is going to be helpful to them.

Well, those that have tried to asked it and followed its betting predictions, there might be some bad and good stories about it but I'm not going to follow what it says if it's about my bet.

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