[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[Cantsay]

It is same thing as asking me to take away all the fun in gambling. I'm not sure how chatGPT is going to predict outcome of a dice game it will be impossible for chatGPT to predict such a game.
The only aspect where it will work is sport betting and it's going to make it's prediction base on the players or based on what most people post online since it works with information provided to it and sometimes it might mislead it into producing wrong prediction. So I think, I don't have knowledge on how the chatGPT works though I have used a sometime ago when some posted it in the meta board and I asked it some few questions. I haven't tried asking it to predict any game before and I'm not sure if I would ever trust it enough to ask it.

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[KTChampions]

Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.

Why do you think that AI does not show good results in forecasting? On the one hand, we cannot know this, since coefficient providers do not disclose the process of their work (at least until the end) - maybe AI already works great in a much wider range of tasks than we think. On the other hand, I am sure that in live betting, when hundreds of interconnected odds change online, AI elements are definitely used.

[serjent05]

Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.

Why do you think that AI does not show good results in forecasting? On the one hand, we cannot know this, since coefficient providers do not disclose the process of their work (at least until the end) - maybe AI already works great in a much wider range of tasks than we think. On the other hand, I am sure that in live betting, when hundreds of interconnected odds change online, AI elements are definitely used.

AI can cannot predict the future accurately, which is one of the major bases why I also think AI does not show good results in forecasting.  Even if it has the ability to gather data, it cannot tell the variable of the match such as the performance of the player during the match, the strategy of the team to use, and many more.  AI can give us some hints but will never have the ability to foretell the result of a game no matter how high-tech the AI is.

[Viscore]

Betting can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems or bets can be placed using automated betting bots managed by artificial intelligence systems. But i would never want the AI ​​to decide on the bets. Because all the ambiance of betting would be lost. AI has no feelings or interests. If i bet with artificial intelligence, i cannot experience the excitement, calculations and ambition i experience while betting. Traditionally, i would continue to gamble and so i voted no.

You have a point too. If AI will be used to bet for us, we will not feel and experience anymore the thrill and excitement we may found from betting. Because admit it or not, being a gambler is not just all about winning profits, but it’s also one way for us to become entertained and be satisfied with whatever game we bet, regardless of that bet end up a lose or a win.

[dezoel]

I think the reason why we have a lot of people saying no to AI betting is the fact that there are absolutely no examples of it anywhere. Think about it this way, if there was a single AI bot, branded and promoted by a lot of people, with proof of their bets BEFORE the bet and then it happens and the results etc. Would people still say No? Of course not, they would say yes a lot and that brand would sell a bunch of those AI bots to people.

However, as we all can imagine, it is futile because neither it would work, but also it would not be possible to sell it to people, like just buy one and then whatever it says, freely give it away to people.

[Oilacris]

Betting can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems or bets can be placed using automated betting bots managed by artificial intelligence systems. But i would never want the AI ​​to decide on the bets. Because all the ambiance of betting would be lost. AI has no feelings or interests. If i bet with artificial intelligence, i cannot experience the excitement, calculations and ambition i experience while betting. Traditionally, i would continue to gamble and so i voted no.

You have a point too. If AI will be used to bet for us, we will not feel and experience anymore the thrill and excitement we may found from betting. Because admit it or not, being a gambler is not just all about winning profits, but it’s also one way for us to become entertained and be satisfied with whatever game we bet, regardless of that bet end up a lose or a win.

People would be throwing out that experience issue whether it would be giving off some fun or not as long they could make money then this is what matter the most.People do always matter about

on how to make money for whatever means or methods that they would really be able to make use of.Using up AI is something that absurd because if it does really work then all of us would really be making use of it which it would really be that a common approach for someone.
AI isnt everything but there are people whom had thought that it would be that relevant if it would be applied into this industry which is not.

[o48o]

Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.

If reliable artificial intelligence baseed prediction tech on sports gambling would exist, i am pretty sure it's closed source and developers rather use it themselves to make money then sell it to public use. If it doesn't work however work well enough, it will be sold all over the internet as a premium AI prediction service so that devs get at least some profits out of it.

[serjent05]

Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.

If reliable artificial intelligence baseed prediction tech on sports gambling would exist, i am pretty sure it's closed source and developers rather use it themselves to make money then sell it to public use. If it doesn't work however work well enough, it will be sold all over the internet as a premium AI prediction service so that devs get at least some profits out of it.

Surely, I think the code will be securely kept in secret.  If this kind of script is published publicly, bookmakers will go bankrupt but honestly, I do not think that there is a script that precisely forecast the result of the upcoming sports event.  The most they can do is just compare the factors between the opposing team and make a summary of the most possible outcome of the event disregarding all the unpredictable variables.  At the end of the day, the result depends on the players that are involved in that sports event unless the fight is rigged or fixed.

[chaser15]

Surely, I think the code will be securely kept in secret.  If this kind of script is published publicly, bookmakers will go bankrupt but honestly, I do not think that there is a script that precisely forecast the result of the upcoming sports event.  The most they can do is just compare the factors between the opposing team and make a summary of the most possible outcome of the event disregarding all the unpredictable variables.  At the end of the day, the result depends on the players that are involved in that sports event unless the fight is rigged or fixed.

Trust me, even if that said code is open-source, no way bookies will go bankrupt if bettors will rely on that.

The AI just shared its analysis based on its own factors and algorithms and that's no different obviously for those professional sports analysts that are just sharing their tips. They are designed to make an analysis based on the given provided on what source they are being set up to rely on.

Sports matches are unpredictable and even if it's subject to being manipulated. Besides, it's impossible that most fights are rigged with thousands of bets to choose from especially involving big matches in big leagues. No problem if bettors will seek advice to AI but just consider it as one of the factors when deciding.

[Finestream]

I think the reason why we have a lot of people saying no to AI betting is the fact that there are absolutely no examples of it anywhere. Think about it this way, if there was a single AI bot, branded and promoted by a lot of people, with proof of their bets BEFORE the bet and then it happens and the results etc. Would people still say No? Of course not, they would say yes a lot and that brand would sell a bunch of those AI bots to people.

However, as we all can imagine, it is futile because neither it would work, but also it would not be possible to sell it to people, like just buy one and then whatever it says, freely give it away to people.

For now, people would not likely to depend from AI for sports betting prediction since it’s not making a fuss and people are not seeing demands from it that it can be very successful. Although it’s useful in some other means but when it comes to sports betting, only a human mind is more capable to make a valid prediction based on what he sees and feels, things that AI machines are not sufficient enough from doing so.

[Mahanton]

I think the reason why we have a lot of people saying no to AI betting is the fact that there are absolutely no examples of it anywhere. Think about it this way, if there was a single AI bot, branded and promoted by a lot of people, with proof of their bets BEFORE the bet and then it happens and the results etc. Would people still say No? Of course not, they would say yes a lot and that brand would sell a bunch of those AI bots to people.

However, as we all can imagine, it is futile because neither it would work, but also it would not be possible to sell it to people, like just buy one and then whatever it says, freely give it away to people.

For now, people would not likely to depend from AI for sports betting prediction since it’s not making a fuss and people are not seeing demands from it that it can be very successful. Although it’s useful in some other means but when it comes to sports betting, only a human mind is more capable to make a valid prediction based on what he sees and feels, things that AI machines are not sufficient enough from doing so.

We've been making out some analysis out of our bets before AI had existed and some do still able to make some good profits with it, there's no need for us to switch up or trying out to mess up our common ways
on how to deal with sports betting.It is really just that a shit assumption for us to believe that it does work and surprisingly there are people whom do really believe up into these kind of claims.
For sure there are ones who would really be testing out for themselves and would be finding out that it wasnt really that effective just like what other people is trying to claim about this.
We would be able to test it out and find out on whats the truth about these AI's.

[goinmerry]

Alright, anyone here who uses the probability to win with these AIs? Or does such AI service already exist now?

How's the experience? Does it yield good winning results or losing instead?

Personally, for me, it's fun using these AIs but more importantly, don't rely purely on them.

[Accardo]

I think the reason why we have a lot of people saying no to AI betting is the fact that there are absolutely no examples of it anywhere. Think about it this way, if there was a single AI bot, branded and promoted by a lot of people, with proof of their bets BEFORE the bet and then it happens and the results etc. Would people still say No? Of course not, they would say yes a lot and that brand would sell a bunch of those AI bots to people.

However, as we all can imagine, it is futile because neither it would work, but also it would not be possible to sell it to people, like just buy one and then whatever it says, freely give it away to people.

For now, people would not likely to depend from AI for sports betting prediction since it’s not making a fuss and people are not seeing demands from it that it can be very successful. Although it’s useful in some other means but when it comes to sports betting, only a human mind is more capable to make a valid prediction based on what he sees and feels, things that AI machines are not sufficient enough from doing so.

At the moment, I don't think Chatgpt has it's database for generating answers to users. Google still remains a source for most of the answers the AI provides to its users, and difference between chatgpt and google is that; Chatgpt claim to own the answers unlike google. That is why people tend to believe what the AI says compared to google. Now, gamblers trusts the answers from Chatgpt not knowing that it can be generated from google as well. The AI will definitely get answers from football analytics on top DA blogs and present it to users, most likely the answers would work out as the analyzers make good predictions too. On the contrary, I don't think AI would predict a casino game correctly. This method can only work for sport betting I guess.

[darkangel11]

Alright, anyone here who uses the probability to win with these AIs?

How's the experience? Does it yield good winning results or losing instead?

Personally, for me, it's fun using these AIs but more importantly, don't rely purely on them.

You can try doing it. The AI won't show you anything new in sports. When you take 2 opponents in boxing the AI will compare their scores. If one is a current champ it will take it into account.
You can try it and take a fighter with almost no losses vs a fighter with a few lost matches and the AI will favor the one with more wins less losses. If there are bets available the AI will recommend higher odds. It's pretty predictable if you ask me. You can get the same results by doing some research.

[nullama]

It is same thing as asking me to take away all the fun in gambling. I'm not sure how chatGPT is going to predict outcome of a dice game it will be impossible for chatGPT to predict such a game.
The only aspect where it will work is sport betting and it's going to make it's prediction base on the players or based on what most people post online since it works with information provided to it and sometimes it might mislead it into producing wrong prediction. So I think, I don't have knowledge on how the chatGPT works though I have used a sometime ago when some posted it in the meta board and I asked it some few questions. I haven't tried asking it to predict any game before and I'm not sure if I would ever trust it enough to ask it.

I'm sure that if AI works for predicting sports betting, then the odds from the casinos will be one of the first to use it.

Then the odds will reflect this, and it will not really be an advantage to the user any more.

But there might be different models of AI, and some casinos might not use them in the beginning, etc.

So I guess there might be a chance to actually end up winning a bit with AI predictions.

Again, it's all based on probability, so of course it will get it wrong many times, but maybe over the long term it might have a slight advantage.

Interesting idea.

[Hispo]

That is actually a very good question.
I would personally not let an Artificial intelligence to pick up teams for me, but I would not mind to use AI as a tool to evaluate the statistics of teams in the past and identify patterns.

For example, There are occasions one wants to participate in an specific sport betting but one could not feel confident enough about one's analysis, that is where AI could help by providing a summary of data which could be used to take a final decision on where to place a bet. That is my personal opinion.

[traderethereum]

That is actually a very good question.
I would personally not let an Artificial intelligence to pick up teams for me, but I would not mind to use AI as a tool to evaluate the statistics of teams in the past and identify patterns.

For example, There are occasions one wants to participate in an specific sport betting but one could not feel confident enough about one's analysis, that is where AI could help by providing a summary of data which could be used to take a final decision on where to place a bet. That is my personal opinion.

That's what we have to do by using AI because after all, we have to have our own analysis and not depend on AI.
That is to hone our ability to analyze every match and improve our abilities later.
If we can have better abilities, it will help us to be able to analyze and not depend on anything.
Maybe using AI can shorten our time in analyzing but we still have to check the results obtained from the AI.

[bittraffic]

That is actually a very good question.
I would personally not let an Artificial intelligence to pick up teams for me, but I would not mind to use AI as a tool to evaluate the statistics of teams in the past and identify patterns.

For example, There are occasions one wants to participate in an specific sport betting but one could not feel confident enough about one's analysis, that is where AI could help by providing a summary of data which could be used to take a final decision on where to place a bet. That is my personal opinion.

That's what we have to do by using AI because after all, we have to have our own analysis and not depend on AI.
That is to hone our ability to analyze every match and improve our abilities later.
If we can have better abilities, it will help us to be able to analyze and not depend on anything.
Maybe using AI can shorten our time in analyzing but we still have to check the results obtained from the AI.

I was also experimenting with the AI there and reading a lot of people's experiences on what they do on chatGPT. I'm sure it can do a lot of wonders since the time it was released. Many experts are saying this could kill google. But I'm not sure if it's going to analyze matches.

Curious to see, I tried if it can analyze Islam vs Volkanovski fight. it replied.
I tried the future matches and the past matches as to what the AI could say and it says the same thing also.

I'm sorry, but I'm not able to browse the internet or access current information about upcoming matches. My knowledge is based on information that was available to me before my knowledge cutoff in 2021, so I don't have any information about a potential match between Islam Makhachev and Alexander Volkanovski. I recommend following a sports news source or checking with an organization that regulates mixed martial arts events for current information about the match.

[ethereumhunter]

Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.

Why do you think that AI does not show good results in forecasting? On the one hand, we cannot know this, since coefficient providers do not disclose the process of their work (at least until the end) - maybe AI already works great in a much wider range of tasks than we think. On the other hand, I am sure that in live betting, when hundreds of interconnected odds change online, AI elements are definitely used.

Maybe it's because I've never used AI before and the AI I've seen is only those in sports betting casinos where it shows the bet levels for each team. Maybe we need more than just providing predictions about one match and that is important information that the AI can collect. If AI technology can help collect this important information and some people already use it, it could help us analyze data from AI.

Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.

If reliable artificial intelligence baseed prediction tech on sports gambling would exist, i am pretty sure it's closed source and developers rather use it themselves to make money then sell it to public use. If it doesn't work however work well enough, it will be sold all over the internet as a premium AI prediction service so that devs get at least some profits out of it.

The developer may try it for himself and check whether the technology has started to work optimally or still needs further improvement. And if it works properly, a lot of people will be interested in trying it because at least AI technology can help them predict which team has the chance to win. It may take a few more years to see such a service but we don't know for sure either.

[swogerino]

It would be interesting only in the sense that AI and more specifically ChatGPT what it does is that it collects information based on what you ask and shows you a big text as an answer to what you have asked.This can be important and a really good feature to use for us sport bettors that don't have time to check all the predictions websites ourselves and ChatGPT can come in handy as it can show us information collected from all these sites so we can immediately have an overview of what other people think for the event we are about to bet on.