[OFNT] [AOBT] The Alliance Of Bitcointalk Translators

[DYING_S0UL]

Perhaps he has been notified via bot and is aware of this situation. Let's see whether he answers and, if not, let's PM him and see what he says.

My only concern if about the possibility that he will not reply and, in this case, we'd be at a dead end... because we can not translate things which are not correct and, at same time, without author's consent we will also not be able to make translations which will not include all the original text... So all this can be made only with his consent...

That's why I am doing a separate research on this topic. (1) If OP fixes the errors and updates the topic, it's good for us ; (2) if he doesn't do that but gives us the permission to translate it with the fixed version, that's also acceptable ; (3) if he doesn't respond to any PM's, doesn't fix anything, totally ghosting, in that case I was thinking about making a fixed version of the topic myself, similar to what LB did with his PGP topic (of course, not plagiarism, same subject but totally unique from OP if possible). And about sending a PM to OP, I am still thinking about that, since we still have much time to spare, I'm thinking of what, how, when, where....

So far I have gathered this much of information...

• Aegis Authenticator ^{open-source, Android, last update June 30, 2024}
• 2FAS ^{open-source, Android/iOS, last update May 23, 2024}
• Tofu Authenticator ^{open-source, iOS, last update Oct 2, 2021}
• Raivo Authenticator ^{no longer open-source, ownership changed, iOS/Mac, last update Jul 4, 2024}
• andOTP - OTP Authenticator ^{no longer maintained, last update Jun 14, 2021}
• Ente Authenticator ^{no longer maintained, changed app to different field}

-DS🧛‍♂️

[GazetaBitcoin]

So far I have gathered this much of information...

If this information is accurate, this means the respective topic needs even more adjustments... Its name is "Best 2FA applications to use. Open source, free, secure. Better than Google's". However, since Raivo and Ente are no longer open source, they clearly do not belong inside the topic anymore... Therefore, besides eliminating andOTP, OP should remove these two ones as well.

2FAS is not mentioned inside that topic, only inside a post of the topic, and it should be added as well... So as far as I see, the author needs to do some work for revamping his thread. I am unsure if he is available to do this work, but it's obvious that we can't translate a thread about open source 2FA applications which would contain, in fact, ones with closed source...

[Porfirii]

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I am unsure if he is available to do this work, but it's obvious that we can't translate a thread about open source 2FA applications which would contain, in fact, ones with closed source...

Perhaps he has been notified via bot and is aware of this situation. Let's see whether he answers and, if not, let's PM him and see what he says.

We can still wait for his input, as we still have one topic in progress... There is no rush here... But if he won't answer, perhaps DS could try to PM him, since he proposed this topic...? And if DS would like to PM him, I propose to phrase something like this: to explain that AOBTers are interested in translating his topic, as it is a useful one, but we are kindly asking him to: (1) fix the image links; (2) eliminate the part suggested by ABCbits; OR (3) in case he does not wish to eliminate that part, then tell us if he is okay if, during our translations, we will not include the section about andOTP.

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I totally agree with you. As the author hasn't said anything yet, DS, are you so kind to PM him and let us know whether he is willing to update his topic before we translate it?

Otherwise, we'll have to choose a different one, or revamp it ourselves in English first, what do you think?

[mela65]

Greetings to all translators.

For some reason, I stayed away from the forum for a long time and could only post from time to time. I would like to return to my old active days again.
I am fluent in technical crypto/blockchain terms, and I have been writing for a well-known crypto news website for 3 years.

Applied Language: Turkish
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=962182
Are you active in your local board?: I haven't been very active for a long time.
Are you willing to translate pro bono at least once a month?: Yes
Link to your portfolio (if you have it): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W8_GN0AaBHFri-az9nUEe7Y-m41Xc7A4EHGPkRrUJgE/edit?usp=sharing
EARNED merits in the last 120 days: Unfortunately 0


Best Regards

[GazetaBitcoin]

For some reason, I stayed away from the forum for a long time and could only post from time to time. I would like to return to my old active days again.
I am fluent in technical crypto/blockchain terms, and I have been writing for a well-known crypto news website for 3 years.

Hey mela65! I, personally, haven't interacted with you, but I see that you have a positive feedback from wwzsocki, regarding your activities as translator, and his opinion is valuable for many forum users, especially inside the field of translations. At the moment we have a Turkish translator -- mindrust -- but I believe, if you'll be accepted, you may act as a back-up translator for Turkish language, since this position is vacant.

I, for one, am glad to see that our group raises interest inside forum users and, who knows, maybe you'll join us

[DYING_S0UL]

I totally agree with you. As the author hasn't said anything yet, DS, are you so kind to PM him and let us know whether he is willing to update his topic before we translate it?

Otherwise, we'll have to choose a different one, or revamp it ourselves in English first, what do you think?

Agree Porf, we are on the same page here. Anyway no worries, I have already sent him a personal message with detailed explanation what we are, what we do, that the topic contains errors, that it need fixing etc. I meant everything, I even pointed out the errors myself. So don't worry, he'll understand when he sees my PM. But if he doesn't do any of that, then we'll have to discard this topic. Let's wait and see.

The other day on the Spanish board, did I said everything correctly? Just wanted to clarify!

[paid2]

In the case we need another topic to translate, I still have this one on my list, which is very interesting - as IMO silent payments could become a big thing in the near future : Silent payments written by witcher_sense.

I don't know if it is of interest for you guys, let me know what you think

[Peanutswar]

Just want to heads up im done translating the

[Eng: Tutorial] Kali NetHunter - Linux on Android

To our local board Pilipinas, @Porfirii you can update this to our done translation.
   
[FIL: Tutorial] Kali NetHunter - Linux sa Android

Thank you

[mela65]

For some reason, I stayed away from the forum for a long time and could only post from time to time. I would like to return to my old active days again.
I am fluent in technical crypto/blockchain terms, and I have been writing for a well-known crypto news website for 3 years.

Hey mela65! I, personally, haven't interacted with you, but I see that you have a positive feedback from wwzsocki, regarding your activities as translator, and his opinion is valuable for many forum users, especially inside the field of translations. At the moment we have a Turkish translator -- mindrust -- but I believe, if you'll be accepted, you may act as a back-up translator for Turkish language, since this position is vacant.

I, for one, am glad to see that our group raises interest inside forum users and, who knows, maybe you'll join us

Hi again.

Thank you for your positive comments and wishes. We have been working with wwzsocki for a long time, I am even writing some of his articles nowadays He is also a valuable friend and partner for me.
I learned a lot from the forum and would be happy to provide support. I'll be here whenever needed.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Just want to heads up im done translating

Thank you for this, Peanutswar! Now we have 7 translations of this topic and only 3 more are needed. The ones still available are [GER] [POL] [TUR] [FRE] [ARA] [POR] [PID] - so this should be in the attention of cygan, mindrust, paid2, Kavelj22 / Nalain420, gagux123 / r_victory, Hatcy / Chilwell.

In the case we need another topic to translate, I still have this one on my list

Indeed, it's a useful topic and I have no objection for adding it to our work

Otherwise, we'll have to choose a different one, or revamp it ourselves in English first, what do you think?

I don't know if it's a good idea to post another topic with (almost) same information... as in revamping it. I remember that there were heavy debates at some point, regarding creating a new, revamped, topic for replacing Lauda's topic [General] Bitcoin Wallets - Which, what, why? -- which is also a sticky one in B&S board. There were people accepting the idea of a revamped topic, since Lauda left the forum, but since some of the information from her topic would have been presented in the revamped one, this led others to protest regarding breaking the authorship of the information. In the end, Lauda's topic remained and no revamped topic was created. So if we'll create a new thread with information from this one, this may lead to plagiarism accusations or breaking authorship etc., therefore I'd suggest to wait OP's reaction and, if he will not co-operate, to focus on another topic instead.

[Porfirii]

Greetings to all translators.

For some reason, I stayed away from the forum for a long time and could only post from time to time. I would like to return to my old active days again.
I am fluent in technical crypto/blockchain terms, and I have been writing for a well-known crypto news website for 3 years.

Applied Language: Turkish
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Hey mela65, glad to meet you and know that you've decided to be active again.

Unfortunately, Turkish is not among the available languages right now, which means that AOBTers won't vote and you'll only be accepted if the current Turkish translator decides that he needs a back-up and agrees with your application. mindrust, can you please tell us what you think?

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The other day on the Spanish board, did I said everything correctly? Just wanted to clarify!

Yes!! everything correct I think that I speak for all the board members when I say that you are welcome to come back every time you want

-snip- therefore I'd suggest to wait OP's reaction and, if he will not co-operate, to focus on another topic instead.

I was thinking in something like what Learn Bitcoin did with mdayonliner's topic, but if we can have the problems you said, maybe the best decision will be the one you propose. What do you think about the one paid2 proposed?

[GazetaBitcoin]

I was thinking in something like what Learn Bitcoin did with mdayonliner's topic

The situation is delicate and debatable... As you saw, in Lauda's case, her topic was not removed from Sticky section and also no other thread was made, although her topic is outdated... For example, theymos could have agreed to change the topic author and allow the new author to revamp the thread but, in this case, it would have meant that someone stole Lauda's work... Each party (the ones pro and the ones against) can bring arguments but the real issue is, if someone would do a thing like this (copy-paste from someone else's work without approval), will that user face the risk of being accused of plagiarism?

I believe such risks exists, although good explanations can be provided (e.g.: the author of the original thread is inactive; or, the author of the original thread does not wish to update his thread and his topic contains inaccurate things etc.). I, for one, would prefer to hope that the author will be responsive and willing to co-operate since, after all, we are trying to help him and others users as well... We act in good faith here and for the good of others too... So, perhaps, let's hear what the author will say about our proposal...

What do you think about the one paid2 proposed?

I wrote in my previous post that I believe it is a useful topic and I have no objection about translating it... Of course, witcher_sense should be informed as well and believe he will be pleased hearing about our intention...

[Chilwell]

Hello my fellow colleagues, Hatchy has ordered me to do the translation because of his busy schedule.
[Eng: Tutorial] Kali NetHunter - Linux on Android

Here is the translation link to my local board naija "pidgin language" @Porfirii you can update this to our done translation.

[PID: Tutorial] Kali NetHunter - Linux on Android
   

[GazetaBitcoin]

Hello my fellow colleagues, Hatchy has ordered me to do the translation because of his busy schedule.

And you were very submissive to his order, it seems

Here is the translation link to my local board

Yay, Chilwell! We reached 8 translations to our only topic in progress, and now we need only 2 more to finish it as well:) Thank you for the efforts you made for translating this topic.
As of now, we will need then 2 translations made in two of the following six available languages [GER] [POL] [TUR] [FRE] [ARA] [POR].

Porf are you so kind, please, to add this translation too?

[Chilwell]

Hello my fellow colleagues, Hatchy has ordered me to do the translation because of his busy schedule.

And you were very submissive to his order, it seems

When we talk of Ranking it actually deals with respect, but when you talk of Hatchy it beyond that, I respect him alot even before I joined the gang, Hatchy is a nice guy who I know here in forum, he's actually good to me, despite am older than him in the forum I respect him because everything is all about opportunity I may heard about the forum before him doesn't mean I know more than him, am also learning a lot of things from him. When I applied to join the gang I was told that someone has occurred the place which was Hatchy, than when they had vacancy for the back up he messaged me and said this slot is for me, since then I respect him more.

[GazetaBitcoin]

When we talk of Ranking it actually deals with respect, but when you talk of Hatchy it beyond that, I respect him alot even before I joined the gang

You are using very kind words, dear Chilwell and this is very nice of you...

Please do not misread my words... I said then in a funny way... I understand your respect for him but, at same time, I was trying to say a funny line (as you saw I also used the smiling emote). So please do not misunderstand me... I apologize if I said something bad but, honestly, I was trying to make you smile

[Chilwell]

When we talk of Ranking it actually deals with respect, but when you talk of Hatchy it beyond that, I respect him alot even before I joined the gang

You are using very kind words, dear Chilwell and this is very nice of you...

Please do not misread my words... I said then in a funny way... I understand your respect for him but, at same time, I was trying to say a funny line (as you saw I also used the smiling emote). So please do not misunderstand me... I apologize if I said something bad but, honestly, I was trying to make you smile

Nooo am just trying to let you know that I will be more submissive to him, he's much more than that, am not angry with what you said but just to let you know he's beyond that. Please don't feel bad about my words, I derived enjoy with the word (submissive) that's what make me give you little description of what Hatchy his to me.

Please don't be offended 

[Porfirii]

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Dears, with so much sweetness I'm afraid that I'll get diabetes

Just kidding, you know that I love you more than anyone


Little recap:

mindrust, please, let us know what you think about mela65's application; otherwise, this weekend we will vote if we accept him.

DS, did we get an answer about the proposed topic? if not, we'll choose a new one (or two) this weekend too, as the current task will be finished soon.

Peanutswar, Chilwell, I have ran out of merits but thank you for your last translations, I will come back to them sooner or later.

Keep up! 

[cygan]

the polish translation of [Eng: Tutorial] Kali NetHunter - Linux on Android was completed today and can be accessed via the following link:
[Poradnik] Kali NetHunter - Linux na Androidzie

@Porfirii please add to your overview

[GazetaBitcoin]

am not angry with what you said but just to let you know he's beyond that. Please don't feel bad about my words, I derived enjoy with the word (submissive) that's what make me give you little description of what Hatchy his to me.

Hihi then I am glad you tasted my humor...

Please don't be offended 

Of course I am not! (hug)

Dears, with so much sweetness I'm afraid that I'll get diabetes

Shhh Porf... the syrup just started to pur inside our family... 

Just kidding, you know that I love you more than anyone

Awwww //blushing

@Porfirii please add to your overview

cygan, you are a real translation machine, hihi! Great job! Porf already added your translation and now we need only 1 more, to finish this topic...