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July 14, 2014, 10:54:44 PM
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have the questions been answered

a) will this happen again next time a theft occures?
b) what is the threshold-amount?
c) also for private wallets or exchange-wallets only?

furthermore:

did Mintpal ever provide any proof?
If yes: what proof?
If no: wtf?

you just took their word for it and forked the chain. Without any proof. Really? Did you just do that?





Just a question, but how long do you think they had to make descisions? They had to act fast, or things may have been to far gone, they assesed it was caught early enough and did what they did. Do you know what they where told or not told?
Whats your proof?

If no proof, WTF you spreadin FUD?
If you have proof, Show it.

to put forward time-pressure as a pretext is not a valid argument in the light that all exchanges were halting trades aswell as deposit/withdrawals and you would have had all the time in the world to figure stuff out. So there was no real force to action if you think about it.

Just taking the word of anybody for such a big action is quite a thing to do, man.

I am just asking questions and i don't get answers at all. Can i please get answers to my questions?
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July 14, 2014, 10:55:56 PM
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Please help!! My wallet is not syncing or connecting to the network


windows?

Try installing the wallet again using the installer but choose a different folder name to where your vericoin.exe file is now, make sure you back up you wallet.dat though. After doing this, it worked for me and I am wondering that even though the installer is the new version, it is for some reason, not overwriting the vericoin.qt.exe file with the new version, so if you install it in the same folder then the exe file just remains the same, where as if you install it in a new folder, then it is actually putting the correct exe file there. Give it a try, just make sure you back up the wallet.dat file.



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July 14, 2014, 10:57:04 PM
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Please help!! My wallet is not syncing or connecting to the network


windows?

Try installing the wallet again using the installer but choose a different folder name to where your vericoin.exe file is now, make sure you back up you wallet.dat though. After doing this, it worked for me and I am wondering that even though the installer is the new version, it is for some reason, not overwriting the vericoin.qt.exe file with the new version, so if you install it in the same folder then the exe file just remains the same, where as if you install it in a new folder, then it is actually putting the correct exe file there. Give it a try, just make sure you back up the wallet.dat file.



Bingo, I think you got it. Will try that

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July 14, 2014, 10:58:18 PM
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Wrong, the whole cryptocommunity got burned on this one. How are people supposed to take Crypto seriously from now on. You guys just rolled back the clock and BAILED out the BIG BANK. Just like the FED would do!

This coin does have some buy support but I believe its just major holders giving a last ditch effort to get out at a respectful price. We'll see how the next week or 2 goes but I predict this coin will be:

DEAD in less then 4 weeks due to the MASSIVE INCOMPETENCE from the DEV team!

Apparently you don't understand that the root cause of this was Mintpal's poor security. At this point there is _nothing_ to suggest any shortcoming on the part of Vericoin or its team. That needs to be clearly understood by everyone. If you think otherwise you need to coherently explain yourself.

Vericoin helped pull the rug out from under the thieves' feet. And Mintpal is working to recompense everyone, not just at their exchange but at other exchanges handling Vericoin, so hopefully no one except the hacker loses in the end. Are you the thief? Seems like that is the only person who ought to be complaining and yelling about now.

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July 14, 2014, 10:58:28 PM
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have the questions been answered

a) will this happen again next time a theft occures?
b) what is the threshold-amount?
c) also for private wallets or exchange-wallets only?

furthermore:

did Mintpal ever provide any proof?
If yes: what proof?
If no: wtf?

you just took their word for it and forked the chain. Without any proof. Really? Did you just do that?





Well I'm surprised some of those questions haven't already been answered mainly the one about did mintpal ever provide any proof?  I didn't have any VRC but I was looking into it for a while so I'm very interested to see what outcome this rollback/hack will have on the coin and other things.  Sorry for those that got burned.

Nobody got burned besides the hacker as of right now.

We need to let the cards fall where they may. Out of chaos, comes clarity.

Wrong, the whole cryptocommunity got burned on this one. How are people supposed to take Crypto seriously from now on. You guys just rolled back the clock and BAILED out the BIG BANK. Just like the FED would do!

This coin does have some buy support but I believe its just major holders giving a last ditch effort to get out at a respectful price. We'll see how the next week or 2 goes but I predict this coin will be:

DEAD in less then 4 weeks due to the MASSIVE INCOMPETENCE from the DEV team!


Relax boy. VeriCoin will be 70K by end of the week.
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July 14, 2014, 10:59:13 PM
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Calling VRC for what it is....is not FUD. It is pointing out the truth.

View it how you want. VRC is tarnished.

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July 14, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
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We must learn from this. Put your coins in your wallet, and only send coins to exchange when you really wanna trade some. Keep it staking, be safe

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July 14, 2014, 11:00:08 PM
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Stop quoting the dumb fud please, youre adding to it

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July 14, 2014, 11:00:37 PM
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Here's the guy who lost the $4k in order to save the rest. https://twitter.com/fullhdpixel/status/488810060609748993

He needs compensation.

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July 14, 2014, 11:05:51 PM
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Wrong, the whole cryptocommunity got burned on this one. How are people supposed to take Crypto seriously from now on. You guys just rolled back the clock and BAILED out the BIG BANK. Just like the FED would do!

This coin does have some buy support but I believe its just major holders giving a last ditch effort to get out at a respectful price. We'll see how the next week or 2 goes but I predict this coin will be:

DEAD in less then 4 weeks due to the MASSIVE INCOMPETENCE from the DEV team!

Apparently you don't understand that the root cause of this was Mintpal's poor security. At this point there is _nothing_ to suggest any shortcoming on the part of Vericoin or its team. That needs to be clearly understood by everyone. If you think otherwise you need to coherently explain yourself.

Vericoin helped pull the rug out from under the thieves' feet. And Mintpal is working to recompense everyone, not just at their exchange but at other exchanges handling Vericoin, so hopefully no one except the hacker loses in the end. Are you the thief? Seems like that is the only person who ought to be complaining and yelling about now.


I understand that mintpal is at fault but ....the issue is your VRC devs should not have stepped in and played Ben Bernanke (Federal Reserve) by bailing out VRC investors who had coins stolen from. It was not their place and their responsibility to fix the fuck up of a business using VRC.

What happens the next time VRC is stolen? Another roll back?

May as well use the traditional banking system or pay pal.

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July 14, 2014, 11:07:35 PM
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if there only was proof provided but they forked the chain just because mintpal told them to do so.

i'll be coming back to this thread tomorrow and see if i have gotten answers to my very valid questions or just accusations.

a) will this happen again next time a theft occures?
b) what is the threshold-amount?
c) also for private wallets or exchange-wallets only?
d) did mintpal provide any proof? If yes, what proof?


i demand answers for this in the interest of the investors aswell.
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They're the Paypal of the alts. Every one of its services are centralized and require you to trust the developers to use. They even are talking about rolling out a wallet that allows you to load it directly with fiat. Sounds just like Paypal if you ask me.


Wrong, the whole cryptocommunity got burned on this one. How are people supposed to take Crypto seriously from now on. You guys just rolled back the clock and BAILED out the BIG BANK. Just like the FED would do!

This coin does have some buy support but I believe its just major holders giving a last ditch effort to get out at a respectful price. We'll see how the next week or 2 goes but I predict this coin will be:

DEAD in less then 4 weeks due to the MASSIVE INCOMPETENCE from the DEV team!

Apparently you don't understand that the root cause of this was Mintpal's poor security. At this point there is _nothing_ to suggest any shortcoming on the part of Vericoin or its team. That needs to be clearly understood by everyone. If you think otherwise you need to coherently explain yourself.

Vericoin helped pull the rug out from under the thieves' feet. And Mintpal is working to recompense everyone, not just at their exchange but at other exchanges handling Vericoin, so hopefully no one except the hacker loses in the end. Are you the thief? Seems like that is the only person who ought to be complaining and yelling about now.


I understand that mintpal is at fault but ....the issue is your VRC devs should not have stepped in and played Ben Bernanke (Federal Reserve) by bailing out VRC investors who had coins stolen from. It was not their place and their responsibility to fix the fuck up of a business using VRC.

What happens the next time VRC is stolen? Another roll back?

May as well use the traditional banking system or pay pal.
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July 14, 2014, 11:09:49 PM
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have the questions been answered

a) will this happen again next time a theft occures?
b) what is the threshold-amount?
c) also for private wallets or exchange-wallets only?

furthermore:

did Mintpal ever provide any proof?
If yes: what proof?
If no: wtf?

you just took their word for it and forked the chain. Without any proof. Really? Did you just do that?





Well I'm surprised some of those questions haven't already been answered mainly the one about did mintpal ever provide any proof?  I didn't have any VRC but I was looking into it for a while so I'm very interested to see what outcome this rollback/hack will have on the coin and other things.  Sorry for those that got burned.

Nobody got burned besides the hacker as of right now.

We need to let the cards fall where they may. Out of chaos, comes clarity.

If that truly was the case the devs would not have supported a rollback. I agree the cards need to fall and whatever comes of it comes of it.

But this is not the case...the devs stepped in in the exact same way a Central planner from a central bank would. your developers are not only developers they are the Ben Bernanke of VRC. lol

It isn't the dev's problem that mintpal is incompetent in their security practices.

So right! These sheep as I call em are solely focused on their own money and are failing to realize what's going on. Its obvious nobody is buying vrc on the exchanges. Zero new investors are flocking in. The press are barley covering this story but I have reached out to coindesk to see if they will write something about the deplorable actions these devs AKA Ben Bernanke's of vericoin have taken.

This coin is a joke, it's not a cryptocoin. Its the devs personal federal reserve!

Just a quick question for all the sheep out here. Do you guys really believe that any major real world vendor/payment processor will accept vrc if they know the devs can rollback at anytime! NEVER! This coin is a JOKE and dying as we speak!
 
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So right! These sheep as I call em are solely focused on their own money and are failing to realize what's going on. Its obvious nobody is buying vrc on the exchanges. Zero new investors are flocking in. The press are barley covering this story but I have reached out to coindesk to see if they will write something about the deplorable actions these devs AKA Ben Bernanke's of vericoin have taken.

This coin is a joke, it's not a cryptocoin. Its the devs personal federal reserve!

Just a quick question for all the sheep out here. Do you guys really believe that any major real world vendor/payment processor will accept vrc if they know the devs can rollback at anytime! NEVER! This coin is a JOKE and dying as we speak!
 

Rolling back theft ,fraud and scam, my guess is they will love it, behond any other feature...
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July 14, 2014, 11:13:03 PM
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Calling VRC for what it is....is not FUD. It is pointing out the truth.

View it how you want. VRC is tarnished.

Only in the eyes of certain parties...namely the crypto decentralization purists. The truth is, to most random people (that would be the folks necessary to bring to crypto to ever make it 'mainstream'), Bitcoin is far more tarnished thanks to things like Silk Road and Gox than Vericoin will be by this. In the eyes of the everyday person, this will appear to many as being safer, knowing action can be taken to thwart a massive attack such as this.

While I normally give your serious commentary a fair bit of weight in the reading I do around here, I think that people who are viewing this occurrence in such a fashion are thinking too narrowly. For the average person, centralization and decentralization are not the black and white concepts they are viewed as here.

Occasionally, it is necessary to venture beyond the echo chamber of these forums to understand what still must come to pass before cryptocurrency can ever be a tool of the average Joe.

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July 14, 2014, 11:13:56 PM
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Calling VRC for what it is....is not FUD. It is pointing out the truth.

View it how you want. VRC is tarnished.

YOUR truth illustrates why most crypto will NEVER be accepted by the public. It's time that the crypto community get out of their mother's basements and join the REAL world. VeriCoin has done just that. VeriCoin is a REAL currency that has shown that it can be trusted, unlike 95% of the crap out there.

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July 14, 2014, 11:14:51 PM
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Can you please link me to where you read that?

They're the Paypal of the alts. Every one of its services are centralized and require you to trust the developers to use. They even are talking about rolling out a wallet that allows you to load it directly with fiat. Sounds just like Paypal if you ask me.


Wrong, the whole cryptocommunity got burned on this one. How are people supposed to take Crypto seriously from now on. You guys just rolled back the clock and BAILED out the BIG BANK. Just like the FED would do!

This coin does have some buy support but I believe its just major holders giving a last ditch effort to get out at a respectful price. We'll see how the next week or 2 goes but I predict this coin will be:

DEAD in less then 4 weeks due to the MASSIVE INCOMPETENCE from the DEV team!

Apparently you don't understand that the root cause of this was Mintpal's poor security. At this point there is _nothing_ to suggest any shortcoming on the part of Vericoin or its team. That needs to be clearly understood by everyone. If you think otherwise you need to coherently explain yourself.

Vericoin helped pull the rug out from under the thieves' feet. And Mintpal is working to recompense everyone, not just at their exchange but at other exchanges handling Vericoin, so hopefully no one except the hacker loses in the end. Are you the thief? Seems like that is the only person who ought to be complaining and yelling about now.


I understand that mintpal is at fault but ....the issue is your VRC devs should not have stepped in and played Ben Bernanke (Federal Reserve) by bailing out VRC investors who had coins stolen from. It was not their place and their responsibility to fix the fuck up of a business using VRC.

What happens the next time VRC is stolen? Another roll back?

May as well use the traditional banking system or pay pal.

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July 14, 2014, 11:15:33 PM
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Calling VRC for what it is....is not FUD. It is pointing out the truth.

View it how you want. VRC is tarnished.

YOUR truth illustrates why most crypto will NEVER be accepted by the public. It's time that the crypto community get out of their mother's basements and join the REAL world. VeriCoin has done just that. VeriCoin is a REAL currency that has shown that it can be trusted, unlike 95% of the crap out there.

Okay so I get it now...

Real world = Roll backs = Charge backs = Bank Bail outs....


Got it. THanks  Cheesy

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Still no valid wallet out?
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Still no valid wallet out?

its already out.
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