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July 15, 2014, 12:30:54 AM
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I dont trust CC, I dont take them.. Not personally or through paypal.

I know millions of others in the same boat and I know millions of people lose billions of dollars yearly due to credit card fraud.

Its ok. VERICOIN IS THE COIN OF FRAUDSTERS WORLDWIDE!

Please continue!

I've lost much more through Bitcoin fraud than I've ever lost due to credit card fraud. The credit cards that you despise so much are much safer than crypto. The closest cryptocoin that there is to being safe is VeriCoin because the devs have shown that they will take steps to thwart theft.

If you lost bitcoins to btc fraud then you're a sucker. How much you lost will reveal how big of a sucker you are.

P.s. I have lost $1000's due to btc fraud but I knew each time when I made the purchase that I could have been throwing my money away.

Today those bitcins would be worth over 100K Sad

I still trust bitcoin more then credit cards!

VIVA LA BITCOIN
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July 15, 2014, 12:35:33 AM
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I guess Vericoin may be around a bit longer
I'll have to keep track of it when the trading resumes to see what happens
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-protected-vericoin-stolen-mintpal-wallet-breach/

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I do not own any VRC.

But this was a mature, correct response by an Elite Dev Team...
To a massive security breach affecting 30% of coins outstanding.

ONLY a coin that will be defended and managed like in this case...
Can possibly gain mainstream acceptance by serious merchants.

I'll bet smoothie's big bag of coins has part-time devs that specialize in excuses.

That said... WHY THE FUCK WAS 30% OF VRC IN A MINTPAL HOT WALLET???   

The whole problem of exchanges "owning" Customer coins needs to be changed...
There needs to be a protocol change = coins on exchange remain linked to Customer wallet...
There needs to be a NEW special class of "transfer"...
Your wallet would have an extra line that says "on exchange and segregated".
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July 15, 2014, 12:39:41 AM
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If you lost bitcoins to btc fraud then you're a sucker. How much you lost will reveal how big of a sucker you are.

P.s. I have lost $1000's due to btc fraud but I knew each time when I made the purchase that I could have been throwing my money away.

Today those bitcins would be worth over 100K Sad

I still trust bitcoin more then credit cards!

VIVA LA BITCOIN


So...

All of this raving idiocy is coming from a self proclaimed idiot. All of a sudden, this whole thread just made absolutely perfect, crystal clear sense.

Hot damn, I love the internet.

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July 15, 2014, 12:43:23 AM
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If you lost bitcoins to btc fraud then you're a sucker. How much you lost will reveal how big of a sucker you are.

P.s. I have lost $1000's due to btc fraud but I knew each time when I made the purchase that I could have been throwing my money away.

Today those bitcins would be worth over 100K Sad

I still trust bitcoin more then credit cards!

VIVA LA BITCOIN


So...

All of this raving idiocy is coming from a self proclaimed idiot. All of a sudden, this whole thread just made absolutely perfect, crystal clear sense.

Hot damn, I love the internet.

I'm no idiot. I took a chance and it backfired on me. All when it came to mining. So what, I lost out and took a chance. At least I have the balls and bitcoins to back it up if I'm wrong. You love vericoin so much, I see about 10 btc available under 38K. Why dont you buy them up?
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July 15, 2014, 12:52:57 AM
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I do not own any VRC.

But this was a mature, correct response by an Elite Dev Team...
To a massive security breach affecting 30% of coins outstanding.

ONLY a coin that will be defended and managed like in this case...
Can possibly gain mainstream acceptance by serious merchants.

I'll bet smoothie's big bag of coins has part-time devs that specialize in excuses.

That said... WHY THE FUCK WAS 30% OF VRC IN A MINTPAL HOT WALLET???   

The whole problem of exchanges "owning" Customer coins needs to be changed...
There needs to be a protocol change = coins on exchange remain linked to Customer wallet...
There needs to be a NEW special class of "transfer"...
Your wallet would have an extra line that says "on exchange and segregated".

This is what the conversation should be looking like in this thread.

A civil debate how to move crypto currency forward, and bring in a larger audience.

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July 15, 2014, 12:53:36 AM
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They need to do that under the pretense of a business. For example, like Coinbase.

Like I said they need to incorporate and call themselves a service and stop pretending to be something else.
I seem to remember them offering multiple "services", so not sure what you are talking about.


yes or bitcoin foundation pretense, ghash etc.. it's all "decentralized"  Roll Eyes

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July 15, 2014, 12:58:53 AM
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Due to VeriCoin rollback, we will be no longer listing the coin at useCryptos voting page.
This action is irresponsible and we do not support it.

Regards


I have never heard of you guys. Didn't you guys run Freshmarket.io?  I prefer unuseCrypto anyways but good luck.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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July 15, 2014, 01:01:51 AM
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If you lost bitcoins to btc fraud then you're a sucker. How much you lost will reveal how big of a sucker you are.

P.s. I have lost $1000's due to btc fraud but I knew each time when I made the purchase that I could have been throwing my money away.

Today those bitcins would be worth over 100K Sad

I still trust bitcoin more then credit cards!

VIVA LA BITCOIN


So...

All of this raving idiocy is coming from a self proclaimed idiot. All of a sudden, this whole thread just made absolutely perfect, crystal clear sense.

Hot damn, I love the internet.

I'm no idiot. I took a chance and it backfired on me. All when it came to mining. So what, I lost out and took a chance. At least I have the balls and bitcoins to back it up if I'm wrong. You love vericoin so much, I see about 10 btc available under 38K. Why dont you buy them up?

I would beg to differ. An individual that takes heavily weighted needless risks is at best stupid, at worst reckless. I would also echo kleineaap in saying I think we have also determined your primary malfunction

And I do not simply buy them because I stringently follow a specific plan, set well in advance, regarding any investments I make. They do get minor tweaks from time to time, but only when it is warranted.

That is how I, how did you put it, 'became rich and got my mansion' well before Bitcoin was even a twinkle in Satoshi's eye.

But anyhow, I think I have unfortunately contributed far to much to the spamming of pointless crap in this thread than I really probably should have in the first place. My comments from yesterday still stand regarding the decision the developers made, and while I may be inclined to further participate in constructive discussion, I think I have to abandon responding to the religious zealotry manifesting itself in the thread for a bit.


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July 15, 2014, 01:09:56 AM
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VeriCoin’s Response To MintPal’s Hacking Could Destroy Them
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Implications

While no one likes to see their coins stolen, and many members of the community are supportive of such an action, there are issues involved.

VeriCoin claims in their tweet to be "preserving decentralization", but by hardforking their blockchain they're making a decision for the entire community to help a group of investors who made a poor investment choice.

While their intentions may be altruistic, such an action does nothing to preserve decentralization. In fact, it does more to destroy it than if they had done nothing at all.

What is also unclear is what will happen to the legitimate transactions made after the coins were stolen. Will those be simply reversed and their transactions erased in order to preserve the greater good? Or will efforts be made to make these people whole again. Will VeriCoin holders have to appeal to a central authority in order to make sure their coins are returned to them?
I am really suprised the breake pads are not missing thats like a extra $100

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July 15, 2014, 01:16:47 AM
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VRC STAKING GOING UP AFTER MINTPAL STARTED THE WITHDRAWS Smiley


http://vrcstake.ticonerd.com/

THIS IS PRETTY GOOD GUYS! SHOW YOUR SUPPORT TO DEV WORK AND STACK YOUR COINS!
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July 15, 2014, 01:18:59 AM
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Can someone help this user on /r/Vericoin out

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Got another strange behaviour.
When I start my OSX Wallet (ver. v1.3.3.0-g32a928e) it syncs up and everything's fine. Then I unlock it to start Staking, which eventually starts as well. After a few minutes, though, it begins to fall out of syn.
I checked the debug log, and it looks like it's getting a bunch of errors. Old wallets maybe? Here's a chunk of the log: https://gist.github.com/miles/75e6a44c40762571e878


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Reply @ http://www.reddit.com/r/vericoin/comments/2ap0zk/fork_is_complete_with_new_update_today_133/cixllzh (or if you don't have a reddit account, just reply here and I'll pass any info along to the person)

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July 15, 2014, 01:21:18 AM
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where is psnoker with his manipulation sell walls... seems the minute everyone goes live this baby is going to tank hard.
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July 15, 2014, 01:26:38 AM
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For all the Vericoin holders that are ok with the "rollback", we would like to introduce a new exciting investment option.

"RollbackCoin"

Have your coins stolen?
Make a bad trade?
Sold all your coins and want them back?
Just want to fuck with other holders?

Just use our veri innovative "rollback" button. One push of the rollback button removes the last 25 blocks.*


*This option is only available to the devs (you can trust us)  Wink.
**We will use as often as we like.

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For all the Vericoin holders that are ok with the "rollback", we would like to introduce a new exciting investment option.

"RewindCoin"

Have your coins stolen?
Make a bad trade?
Sold your your coins and want them back?
Just want to fuck with other holders?

Just use our veri innovative "rewind" button. One push of the rewind button removes the last 25 blocks.*


*This option is only available to the devs (you can trust usWink.
We will use as often as we like.



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July 15, 2014, 01:29:29 AM
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maybe someone should ask psnoker why he was transfering 200k coins to bittrex during yesterdays original outage... it was clearly stated on irc.
Buy wall to keep VRC from crashing on Bittrex.

he sent 200k vrc to create a vrc buy wall? sorry probably just dense but not following.

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hes probably too busy selling everything off at the moment to "protect" us.

meanwhile half the irc cant get access to their coins.

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July 15, 2014, 01:34:20 AM
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I do not own any VRC.

But this was a mature, correct response by an Elite Dev Team...
To a massive security breach affecting 30% of coins outstanding.

ONLY a coin that will be defended and managed like in this case...
Can possibly gain mainstream acceptance by serious merchants.

I'll bet smoothie's big bag of coins has part-time devs that specialize in excuses.

That said... WHY THE FUCK WAS 30% OF VRC IN A MINTPAL HOT WALLET???   

The whole problem of exchanges "owning" Customer coins needs to be changed...
There needs to be a protocol change = coins on exchange remain linked to Customer wallet...
There needs to be a NEW special class of "transfer"...
Your wallet would have an extra line that says "on exchange and segregated".



I could see having the choice to link your wallet to an exchange being something interesting to look into.

I think at the least this might eliminate a bunch of people who day trade rather than who are actually supporters of Vericoin.

Good point about the merchants, though I don't see a rollback being an option or necessary in the future, the fact that the devs are out there and didn't just let this issue go and say 'fuck it, let the thief destroy our coin' says a lot, surprised people see it otherwise.

Mintpal though, such shame.


*currently waiting for Bittrix to enable VRC wallets so I can stake the coins I'm buying up*

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July 15, 2014, 01:37:57 AM
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wallet on the webstie is version 1.3.2 which doesnt sync .. where can i get veresion 1.3.3 ??
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July 15, 2014, 01:45:27 AM
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wallet on the webstie is version 1.3.2 which doesnt sync .. where can i get veresion 1.3.3 ??

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