[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[ranlo]

IMHO these ALTS have already cost the community enough in terms of diverting time and resources from Bitcoin.

Can't wait for the Sidechains to make all this foolishness go away.

Why would the sidechain make it go away?

CLAM actually has a use now because you can play or invest in just-dice. Most people that were involved in Bitcoin in May have some. But the price will likely fall back to 0.001 because there are millions of CLAM that will arrive to the market and will be exchange for valuable bitcoins.

Wait until we find out Dooglus was the reason Bitcoin has value... and everyone was buying them to play on JD, :p. And then CLAM passes Bitcoin in value.

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[BayAreaCoins]

IMHO these ALTS have already cost the community enough in terms of diverting time and resources from Bitcoin.

Can't wait for the Sidechains to make all this foolishness go away.

Why would the sidechain make it go away?

CLAM actually has a use now because you can play or invest in just-dice. Most people that were involved in Bitcoin in May have some. But the price will likely fall back to 0.001 because there are millions of CLAM that will arrive to the market and will be exchange for valuable bitcoins.

Wait until we find out Dooglus was the reason Bitcoin has value... and everyone was buying them to play on JD, :p. And then CLAM passes Bitcoin in value.

LOL

I've actually thought about that a fair bit because the JD early days was like a rocket for BTC and you could TOTALLY see the BTC flowing in from the market after they got eaten up.  I mean seriously, the JD bank roll was a great futures indicator for price ect.

There was a number of large VC's, Pool owners, Market owners, Homeless people, People who feed homeless and the list goes on.... all types of folks in that room. 

[ranlo]

IMHO these ALTS have already cost the community enough in terms of diverting time and resources from Bitcoin.

Can't wait for the Sidechains to make all this foolishness go away.

Why would the sidechain make it go away?

CLAM actually has a use now because you can play or invest in just-dice. Most people that were involved in Bitcoin in May have some. But the price will likely fall back to 0.001 because there are millions of CLAM that will arrive to the market and will be exchange for valuable bitcoins.

Wait until we find out Dooglus was the reason Bitcoin has value... and everyone was buying them to play on JD, :p. And then CLAM passes Bitcoin in value.

LOL

I've actually thought about that a fair bit because the JD early days was like a rocket for BTC and you could TOTALLY see the BTC flowing in from the market after they got eaten up.  I mean seriously, the JD bank roll was a great futures indicator for price ect.

There was a number of large VC's, Pool owners, Market owners, Homeless people, People who feed homeless and the list goes on.... all types of folks in that room. 

Look at CLAM. It got up to 0.01 BTC and then somewhat tanked to 0.004, but it's already climbing back up again. I have the feeling they're not going to tank again because: a) people are investing instead of dumping and b) people are buying them to gamble with. This means there's buy pressure and a lowering amount of sell pressure. I really wouldn't be surprised if we got to 0.02-0.03 BTC each and held stable.

[ik_do]

Okay, I'm not buying Just Dice as the reason for the CLAM price growth. Who even uses that site? The main CLAM site is a random Wordpress theme with pictures that don't even match the branding of the coin (looks to just be the default theme pics).

Welcome to the CLAM thread.


The CLAM website isn't run on WordPress.... it is run on Ghost.
We are volunteers; if you believe you can create a better website, we more than welcome your contribution.


I don't personally pretend to have a crystal-ball that can predict nor explain markets.
However, the answer to: "Who even uses that site?" is likely a rather long answer.
Just-Dice has a long history of large bank-rolls and met obligations.


More detail than the above, will likely have to be discovered and researched by yourself.

From a new comer to the crypto community I'd suggest it is simplified a lot from what it currently is.

It currently makes it extremely difficult to access information and the navigation method is nonsensical.

I realize it is run by volunteers but even a simple HTML page would do a better job.

[almightyruler]

If you put your CLAMs in the Just-Dice bankroll you get a share of the staking rewards. The site wallet has staked 3544 blocks since it started holding CLAMs less than a week ago.

So you're basically running a CLAMs staking pool? 

[dbshck]

If you put your CLAMs in the Just-Dice bankroll you get a share of the staking rewards. The site wallet has staked 3544 blocks since it started holding CLAMs less than a week ago.

So you're basically running a CLAMs staking pool? 

Yeah, Dooglus stake the investors fund, and get 1 or 2 CLAM per minutes. So far, JD has made 4100 CLAM just from staking.

[T-800]

Can anyone help me out?

I have trouble claiming my CLAMS. I have a fully synced Clam client, and my wallet.dats. I'm using File -> Import Wallet, select my BTC/LTC/DOGE wallet.dat -> enter the password. But nothing seems to happen after that.

Am I doing something wrong?

Also, the just-dice chat box tells me my addresses have unclaimed CLAMS.

Edit: just found that my console tells me this:
"19:34:54  CDB : Error 2, can't open database (code -1)"

[J. J. Phillips]

I just did a quick calculation of the current Clams market cap.

There are approx. 15 million clams.
Each clam is trading on Poloniex for approx 7 mbits, giving a market cap of about 100,000 BTC.
With BTC trading around $350, this gives a market cap of approx: $35 million.

Let me know if I'm wrong about this.

If I'm correct and the other rankings on coinmarketcap.com are accurate, then Clams should be in the number 5 position.

Well done, guys. It's been a coin I've looked at briefly a few times over the months, but have started taking seriously a few days ago.

[Mageant]

Can anyone help me out?

I have trouble claiming my CLAMS. I have a fully synced Clam client, and my wallet.dats. I'm using File -> Import Wallet, select my BTC/LTC/DOGE wallet.dat -> enter the password. But nothing seems to happen after that.

Am I doing something wrong?

Also, the just-dice chat box tells me my addresses have unclaimed CLAMS.

Edit: just found that my console tells me this:
"19:34:54  CDB : Error 2, can't open database (code -1)"

I got that error when the pathname to the wallet.dat file contained a space. I put the file in "C:\temp\" and then it worked.

I also found that I could only successfully import wallet.dat files that are *older* than mid-May.

[yampi]

How the hell is the network weight 21513656323222?

[DenisZabar]

Can anyone help me out?

I have trouble claiming my CLAMS. I have a fully synced Clam client, and my wallet.dats. I'm using File -> Import Wallet, select my BTC/LTC/DOGE wallet.dat -> enter the password. But nothing seems to happen after that.

Am I doing something wrong?

Also, the just-dice chat box tells me my addresses have unclaimed CLAMS.

Edit: just found that my console tells me this:
"19:34:54  CDB : Error 2, can't open database (code -1)"

open you doge,bitcoin,litecoin wallet with original client then change BTC/LTC/DOGE password in something easier like 123456789

then import your wallet.dat into clam client

that will solve problem

[dooglus]

So you're basically running a CLAMs staking pool? 

Yeah, Dooglus stake the investors fund, and get 1 or 2 CLAM per minutes. So far, JD has made 4100 CLAM just from staking.

The site has been up for a little over a week, and has seen 271k CLAM wagered. That's roughly 40k per day and with a house edge of 1% we expect to have won 1% of that, or 400 CLAMs per day.

As it happens, the site has been very lucky and won 3.37% of the wagered amount, but that's pretty much irrelevant.

The CLAM network as a whole stakes 1 block per minute on average, for 1440 CLAMs per day in block rewards. JD's bankroll wallet right now is showing:

    "weight" : 160374.82242101,
    "netstakeweight" : 213492.02905202,

ie. we are 75% of the global network staking weight

>>> 160374.82242101 * 100 / 213492.02905202
75.11981741572782

and so can expect to stake 75% of the blocks, and so earn 1080 CLAM (plus transaction fees) per day. Less than the "1 or 2 CLAM per minute" you stated - 0.75 CLAM per minute in fact on average (assuming the weight stay the same, which they won't).

So with the current rate of wagering, we expect to earn more from staking (1080 per day) than from wagering (400 per day).

So we're basically running a CLAMs staking pool! 

[dooglus]

I got that error when the pathname to the wallet.dat file contained a space. I put the file in "C:\temp\" and then it worked.

I also found that I could only successfully import wallet.dat files that are *older* than mid-May.

I've seen quite a few reports of errors opening the wallet file when importing, but this is the first time I've seen it explained.

I wonder if this is only occurring on Windows.

The initial CLAM distribution was made to all BTC, LTC, and DOGE addresses which held a non-dust balance on May 12th 2014, which explains your mid-May observation.

[istvandv]

How the hell is the network weight 21513656323222?

you have to divide it by 100,000,000

so 21513656323222 / 100000000 = 215,136.56323222

the next release will address this

[dooglus]

How the hell is the network weight 21513656323222?

you have to divide it by 100,000,000

so 21513656323222 / 100000000 = 215,136.56323222

the next release will address this

Yeah, it's in CLAM-satoshis. Probably by mistake. It's kind of arbitrary which units are used, so long as your stake and the network stake us the same units. It's more readable with a decimal point separating whole CLAMs from the satoshis though, so that's how it will be in the next release - which is coming soon by the way.

[Arsenay]

How the hell is the network weight 21513656323222?

you have to divide it by 100,000,000

so 21513656323222 / 100000000 = 215,136.56323222

the next release will address this

Yeah, it's in CLAM-satoshis. Probably by mistake. It's kind of arbitrary which units are used, so long as your stake and the network stake us the same units. It's more readable with a decimal point separating whole CLAMs from the satoshis though, so that's how it will be in the next release - which is coming soon by the way.

imho
to be honest
general release was not to be
without correcting such "basic stuff" for coins with pos
I would be easier to fix it,
  rather than explain each absurd values and "then fix".

[dooglus]

imho
to be honest
general release was not to be
without correcting such "basic stuff" for coins with pos
I would be easier to fix it,
  rather than explain each absurd values and "then fix".

I know, right.

I have a similar complaint about my height. Am I 2 metres tall or 200 centimetres? Surely they should have standardised this before my release.

My point is that the units don't matter, especially when you're just comparing one number to another.

[Arsenay]

My point is that the units don't matter, especially when you're just comparing one number to another.

when I see these deficiencies by experienced and competent people,
I think that they keep for the rest of idiots.  

time award - the absurd
weight value of coins in qt - absurd
Why would I go shove your money and wait for years as Pinocchio?))
What is the motivation?

[BayAreaCoins]

My point is that the units don't matter, especially when you're just comparing one number to another.

when I see these deficiencies by experienced and competent people,
I think that they keep for the rest of idiots.  

time award - the absurd
weight value of coins in qt - absurd
Why would I go shove your money and wait for years as Pinocchio?))
What is the motivation?

First off you should ALWAYS move your coins before claiming clams and your should ALWAYS thinking about taking what is free in life before making a investment of any kind.... this seems like DUH shit?

No one is asking for your investment, please claim your free clam and sell them by all means !

[Arsenay]

My point is that the units don't matter, especially when you're just comparing one number to another.

when I see these deficiencies by experienced and competent people,
I think that they keep for the rest of idiots.  

time award - the absurd
weight value of coins in qt - absurd
Why would I go shove your money and wait for years as Pinocchio?))
What is the motivation?

First off you should ALWAYS move your coins before claiming clams and your should ALWAYS thinking about taking what is free in life before making a investment of any kind.... this seems like DUH shit?

No one is asking for your investment, please claim your free clam and sell them by all means !

Уes, stupidity is always voluntary
Thank you that is not referred to GPL