[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[dooglus]

don't know what happened but haven't staked in a few days since i edited the clam.conf file.. all i did was add

splitsize=9.69
debug=stake

so my clam balance wouldn't stake almost all at once.

it looked like it was working but the last stake was 60% of my coins which was allot more then 9.69


TIA,
Leptar

"debug=stake" can cause a lot of output to be written to the debug file, particularly if you have a lot of separate outputs. In extreme cases the extra debugging could be bogging the staking down.

Setting "splitsize" controls the output of your staking, not the inputs. If a 100 CLAM output stakes, it will create ~11 outputs of size 9.69 instead of a single large output of size 101.

[SuperClam]

how do i claim if i have an electrum wallet?

This may be helpful? listaddresses->dumpprivkeys

https://electrum.orain.org/wiki/List_of_commands
https://electrum.orain.org/wiki/Python_Console
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139043.0

[kolloh]

how do i claim if i have an electrum wallet?

Easiest way is to download the Clam client and import your wallet.dat file.

Electrum doesn't have a .dat file does it?

I was talking to someone the other day trying to dig with a EW as well.

Oh I wasn't aware electrum didn't use .dat files. Haven't personally tried electrum.

[dooglus]

My guess is we see around .004 again.  It would be nice to see it get to where the bid could have a fat ass stack on it as to accommodate possible winner confidence on Just-dice and other places. 

The other day I was fucking around with a friend and he wouldn't take my action because he was concerned 4,000 CLAMS was more than he could sell.  People need confidence they can sell their 4k CLAMS and from a sellers stand point I could really "feel" that confidence in the .004 range.  That is where I'll be buying I think.... (yet again who knows.)

There are currently existing buy orders for 17,000 CLAMs at 0.004 and higher. Nobody would have any trouble selling 4,000 CLAMs at 0.004 or higher.

I think the CLAM spike was related to that stupid bearish bet on https://bitbet.us/bet/1121/clam-losing-grip-sells-0-0029-or-lower/

I think it was mostly players losing on Just-Dice and buying more to try to win back their losses driving the price up, and people taking advantage of the higher prices to cash out driving it back down. I doubt that a small bet about the price on cryptsy had much to do with it, but I could be wrong.

[BayAreaCoins]

My guess is we see around .004 again.  It would be nice to see it get to where the bid could have a fat ass stack on it as to accommodate possible winner confidence on Just-dice and other places.  

The other day I was fucking around with a friend and he wouldn't take my action because he was concerned 4,000 CLAMS was more than he could sell.  People need confidence they can sell their 4k CLAMS and from a sellers stand point I could really "feel" that confidence in the .004 range.  That is where I'll be buying I think.... (yet again who knows.)

There are currently existing buy orders for 17,000 CLAMs at 0.004 and higher. Nobody would have any trouble selling 4,000 CLAMs at 0.004 or higher.

My CLAMS vs their cash.  It was also a little bit ago, but that 20% range was enough to have them say no.  They won 2000 CLAMS and had 0 issues getting them into BTC of course.  It just appears thin (like you said it could go either way)... at .004 I think it would look thick.  I figure everyone who has a invested above .004 would probably chip something at it if it was at that level.

I think it was mostly players losing on Just-Dice and buying more to try to win back their losses driving the price up, and people taking advantage of the higher prices to cash out driving it back down. I doubt that a small bet about the price on cryptsy had much to do with it, but I could be wrong.

Probably right doog.

[rocoro]

@Dooglus

Has the bootstrap.dat for clams been linearized? 
Similar to doing something like this (so no orphans or forks in bootstrap.dat) - https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/contrib/linearize

Trying to figure out how to do that for PoS coins like yours..  do you happen to have an example linearize-data.py in that regards?

Thanks for any help and help you've provided in the past!

[dooglus]

@Dooglus

Has the bootstrap.dat for clams been linearized? 
Similar to doing something like this (so no orphans or forks in bootstrap.dat) - https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/contrib/linearize

Trying to figure out how to do that for PoS coins like yours..  do you happen to have an example linearize-data.py in that regards?

Thanks for any help and help you've provided in the past!

Well, yes, that's what a bootstrap.dat file *is*. You just write all the blocks in the main chain into a file one after the other.

I added a command 'dumpbootstrap' to clamd that creates the bootstrap.dat file rather than writing a separate Python script to do it.

You can probably just merge the commit into your coin.

[rocoro]

@Dooglus

Has the bootstrap.dat for clams been linearized? 
Similar to doing something like this (so no orphans or forks in bootstrap.dat) - https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/contrib/linearize

Trying to figure out how to do that for PoS coins like yours..  do you happen to have an example linearize-data.py in that regards?

Thanks for any help and help you've provided in the past!

Well, yes, that's what a bootstrap.dat file *is*. You just write all the blocks in the main chain into a file one after the other.

I added a command 'dumpbootstrap' to clamd that creates the bootstrap.dat file rather than writing a separate Python script to do it.

You can probably just merge the commit into your coin.

Hmm.. I thought that python script stripped out all the orphan blocks.. and "to create a no-fork best chain version" as it states.
If I write out all the blocks into one file,  I see the client trying to work through all the orphan blocks when importing..  (tail -f debug.log to see the messages).

I'll look at dumpbootstrap,  thank you.

[m3]

http://themerkle.com/speculation/clams-technical-analysis-for-4262015/

Technical Analysis for 4/26

[dooglus]

Well, yes, that's what a bootstrap.dat file *is*. You just write all the blocks in the main chain into a file one after the other.

I added a command 'dumpbootstrap' to clamd that creates the bootstrap.dat file rather than writing a separate Python script to do it.

You can probably just merge the commit into your coin.

Hmm.. I thought that python script stripped out all the orphan blocks.. and "to create a no-fork best chain version" as it states.
If I write out all the blocks into one file,  I see the client trying to work through all the orphan blocks when importing..  (tail -f debug.log to see the messages).

I'll look at dumpbootstrap,  thank you.

Note that I said "in the main chain".

Orphan blocks are by definition not in the main chain.

See https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/commit/3bb9c0ed for the initial commit.

At its core it just does this - finds each block in order, reads it from disk, writes it to the bootstrap file:

Code:

+        for (int nHeight = 0; nHeight <= nBlocks; nHeight++)
+        {
+            CBlockIndex* pblockindex = FindBlockByHeight(nHeight);
+            block.ReadFromDisk(pblockindex, true);
+            fileout << FLATDATA(Params().MessageStart()) << fileout.GetSerializeSize(block) << block;
+        }

[qiwoman2]

My guess is we see around .004 again.  It would be nice to see it get to where the bid could have a fat ass stack on it as to accommodate possible winner confidence on Just-dice and other places.  

The other day I was fucking around with a friend and he wouldn't take my action because he was concerned 4,000 CLAMS was more than he could sell.  People need confidence they can sell their 4k CLAMS and from a sellers stand point I could really "feel" that confidence in the .004 range.  That is where I'll be buying I think.... (yet again who knows.)

There are currently existing buy orders for 17,000 CLAMs at 0.004 and higher. Nobody would have any trouble selling 4,000 CLAMs at 0.004 or higher.

My CLAMS vs their cash.  It was also a little bit ago, but that 20% range was enough to have them say no.  They won 2000 CLAMS and had 0 issues getting them into BTC of course.  It just appears thin (like you said it could go either way)... at .004 I think it would look thick.  I figure everyone who has a invested above .004 would probably chip something at it if it was at that level.

I think it was mostly players losing on Just-Dice and buying more to try to win back their losses driving the price up, and people taking advantage of the higher prices to cash out driving it back down. I doubt that a small bet about the price on cryptsy had much to do with it, but I could be wrong.

Probably right doog.

Apart from Just-Dice where else can we use Clams and how many clams are there now in existence/ I really like the community support that Clams has. We were also going to translate the site into Chinese but not heard anything of that as yet.

[kolloh]

Apart from Just-Dice where else can we use Clams and how many clams are there now in existence/ I really like the community support that Clams has. We were also going to translate the site into Chinese but not heard anything of that as yet.

According to Just-Dice:
68,461 of 3,208,032 sets of 4.60545574 CLAM were dug up so far from the initial distribution
315,294 CLAM were dug up and 337,828 CLAM were staked for a total of 653,122 CLAM

I know there is also https://bustaclam.com/ which is a clam clone of bustabit. Not sure what other places you can use clam at the moment.

[BayAreaCoins]

Apart from Just-Dice where else can we use Clams and how many clams are there now in existence/ I really like the community support that Clams has. We were also going to translate the site into Chinese but not heard anything of that as yet.

www.BitDice.me
www.FortuneJack.com
www.BustaClam.com

[garthkiser]

Apart from Just-Dice where else can we use Clams and how many clams are there now in existence/ I really like the community support that Clams has. We were also going to translate the site into Chinese but not heard anything of that as yet.

We didn't forget about your translation offer
There's just lots of other work going on lately.
When website work does come up again, you'll be remembered.

[ShapeShift.io]

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[SuperClam]

Apart from Just-Dice where else can we use Clams and how many clams are there now in existence/ I really like the community support that Clams has. We were also going to translate the site into Chinese but not heard anything of that as yet.

PURCHASE ON AMAZON.COM WITH CLAMS: ShapeShift.io‬ has partnered with Purse.io, a service that matches customers wishing to purchase ‪bitcoin‬ with bitcoin holders wanting to purchase items with retail giant Amazon.com. You can now make your purchases with Clam: http://bit.ly/1JTnSdP

Hopefully helpful?

[luckygenough56]

so if i didn't own btc/ltc/doge in any cold wallets before late 2014, i have no clams ?? 

[Trent Russell]

Small technical question: Is the clamspeech message a part of the transaction that's signed?

[BayAreaCoins]

so if i didn't own btc/ltc/doge in any cold wallets before late 2014, i have no clams ?? 

Hot wallets work too as long as you are in control of the private key.

The address just needs to have been funded on May 12th, 2014 in order to have received free CLAMS.

[ShapeShift.io]

so if i didn't own btc/ltc/doge in any cold wallets before late 2014, i have no clams ?? 

Anyone can buy CLAMS instantly on ShapeShift.io (pay with Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin, or about 25 other altcoins)