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May 09, 2015, 05:13:26 PM |
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1000 people bought NXT = lost money 1000 signed for NEM = made money See the difference Edeqa?
This is nonsense. If you are comparing original stakeholders, Nxt original stakeholders made a lot more money. But what's worse, Nxt sold pretty cheap for first month (1 btc to 2 btc per million nxt), so anyone who bought Nxt in first month after the launch made significant money by January 2014 (launch was in November 2013). All early Nem buyers lost money (both on AE, and after launch)
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May 09, 2015, 05:23:06 PM |
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1000 people bought NXT = lost money 1000 signed for NEM = made money See the difference Edeqa?
This is nonsense. If you are comparing original stakeholders, Nxt original stakeholders made a lot more money. But what's worse, Nxt sold pretty cheap for first month (1 btc to 2 btc per million nxt), so anyone who bought Nxt in first month after the launch made significant money by January 2014 (launch was in November 2013). All early Nem buyers lost money (both on AE, and after launch) You got my ignore.Troll...
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Eadeqa
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May 09, 2015, 05:25:48 PM |
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1000 people bought NXT = lost money 1000 signed for NEM = made money See the difference Edeqa?
This is nonsense. If you are comparing original stakeholders, Nxt original stakeholders made a lot more money. But what's worse, Nxt sold pretty cheap for first month (1 btc to 2 btc per million nxt), so anyone who bought Nxt in first month after the launch made significant money by January 2014 (launch was in November 2013). All early Nem buyers lost money (both on AE, and after launch) You got my ignore.Troll... truth hurts? All new nem buyers lost money
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Eadeqa
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May 09, 2015, 05:28:39 PM |
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truth hurts? All new nem buyers lost money
How do you know they've sold what they bought? If they have not sold, they won't get a chance again anyway, given the volume and interest.
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Eadeqa
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May 09, 2015, 06:05:51 PM |
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If they have not sold, they won't get a chance again anyway, given the volume and interest.
Do you mean the low volume which shows that the majority of All new nem buyers (plus older holders) have NO interest in dumping? Who would want to dump when prices are that low? No one is buying anyway to d dump anything.
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Eadeqa
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May 09, 2015, 06:18:28 PM |
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Who would want to dump when prices are that low? No one is buying anyway to d dump anything.
Whatever fool... keep acting like you don't know that most holders are up >=3000% even at these rates!!! You mean the developers, the sockpuppets, and stuff? All new buyers lost money since launch. All AE buyers lost money.
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Eadeqa
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May 09, 2015, 06:29:18 PM |
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All new buyers lost money since launch. All AE buyers lost money.
I thought you said you have no way of knowing if they sold at a loss? Edit: How about those that bought their NEMstake for 15000 NXT? I guess, they could be "happy" except nxt was 10 cents back then. So I doubt even if they are happy.
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May 09, 2015, 07:02:57 PM |
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waste of time arguing with him, he is in this thread everytime NXT hits new bottom
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May 09, 2015, 08:54:34 PM |
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For the record: I´m a NEM holder and believer and i own just a handfull NXT (donations are welcome!! ). But what´s wrong with you guys? Eadeqa is right with his price example. It doesn´t mean NEM is a bad coin or something like that. I didn´t followed the thread last days so i don´t know how he thinks about NEM or if he said something snidely. But what i read this day he´s absolutely right what he says! And he´s also right with this: 1000 people bought NXT = lost money 1000 signed for NEM = made money See the difference Edeqa?
This is nonsense. If you are comparing original stakeholders, Nxt original stakeholders made a lot more money. But what's worse, Nxt sold pretty cheap for first month (1 btc to 2 btc per million nxt), so anyone who bought Nxt in first month after the launch made significant money by January 2014 (launch was in November 2013). All early Nem buyers lost money (both on AE, and after launch) i would say ~72 people signed for NXT = made money 1000 people bought NXT = made money 1000 signed for NEM = made money 1000 people bought NEM = lost money ANYWAY..... Hope after this kindergarden we see some updates or some other cool stuff for this coin. You talk about prices but i wanna see NEM in action!
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May 09, 2015, 09:23:04 PM |
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For the record: I´m a NEM holder and believer and i own just a handfull NXT (donations are welcome!! ). But what´s wrong with you guys? Eadeqa is right with his price example. It doesn´t mean NEM is a bad coin or something like that. I didn´t followed the thread last days so i don´t know how he thinks about NEM or if he said something snidely. But what i read this day he´s absolutely right what he says! And he´s also right with this: 1000 people bought NXT = lost money 1000 signed for NEM = made money See the difference Edeqa?
This is nonsense. If you are comparing original stakeholders, Nxt original stakeholders made a lot more money. But what's worse, Nxt sold pretty cheap for first month (1 btc to 2 btc per million nxt), so anyone who bought Nxt in first month after the launch made significant money by January 2014 (launch was in November 2013). All early Nem buyers lost money (both on AE, and after launch) i would say ~72 people signed for NXT = made money 1000 people bought NXT = made money 1000 signed for NEM = made money 1000 people bought NEM = lost money ANYWAY..... Hope after this kindergarden we see some updates or some other cool stuff for this coin. You talk about prices but i wanna see NEM in action! Ok i understand you. I bought 3 BTC @72 satoshi but not complaining about price. For now We need to wait for some progress.
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May 09, 2015, 09:34:03 PM |
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I guess, they could be "happy" except nxt was 10 cents back then. So I doubt even if they are happy.
WTF does that have to do with NEM? ähh what?? It was the answer of your question: Edit: How about those that bought their NEMstake for 15000 NXT? [/quote]
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May 09, 2015, 09:48:11 PM |
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ähh what?? It was the answer of your question:
You're joking... right? All new buyers lost money since launch. All AE buyers lost money.
Why do you quote Eadeqa and implicate it was me? ps: Even this statement is wright (watch coinmarketcap!). So what´s your problem? edit: I´m not here to harm NEM or discredit you!
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May 09, 2015, 09:50:36 PM |
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NOPE. I dont think that numbers support your theory. I am saying that majority of people who got envolved with NXT are now in red numbers. Majority of people involved with NEM are in green numbers. Dont forget that NXT was sold at 90 mil. mar.cap. now it is not even 9! Volume and interest is biggest on pumps and ATH, so many people lost even 90 percent of value of their investment. No such disaster with NEM.
Yes NXT stakeholders are driving lambos, but people who gave them money to buy those lambos are now desperate and turned into trolls. NEM had no pumps, volatility is not big, and people are waiting for AE and other features. Current price and volume is just logical to me. It just says real project in development. I know you guys think that this thread is dead and there is nothing more to NEM, but that is not truth.
NEM devs left BTT, they consider it toxic, and they also dont care if you will sell your XEM. They are working and they have plenty ideas, but they are not promising shit, because its contraproductive. Things gonna be ninja.
Also, this is not communist movement. It is equality of opportunity, now we are in free market forces phaze. Someone makes money someone loses money. What should devs do? A little pump for bored crowds? No, thank you.
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May 09, 2015, 09:54:08 PM |
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NOPE. I dont think that numbers support your theory. I am saying that majority of people who got envolved with NXT are now in red numbers. Majority of people involved with NEM are in green numbers. Dont forget that NXT was sold at 90 mil. mar.cap. now it is not even 9! Volume and interest is biggest on pumps and ATH, so many people lost even 90 percent of value of their investment. No such disaster with NEM.
Yes NXT stakeholders are driving lambos, but people who gave them money to buy those lambos are now desperate and turned into trolls. NEM had no pumps, volatility is not big, and people are waiting for AE and other features. Current price and volume is just logical to me. It just says real project in development. I know you guys think that this thread is dead and there is nothing more to NEM, but that is not truth.
NEM devs left BTT, they consider it toxic, and they also dont care if you will sell your XEM. They are working and they have plenty ideas, but they are not promising shit, because its contraproductive. Things gonna be ninja.
Also, this is not communist movement. It is equality of opportunity, now we are in free market forces phaze. Someone makes money someone loses money. What should devs do? A little pump for bored crowds? No, thank you.
+1 (except this: "Majority of people involved with NEM are in green numbers" - i don´t think so) (i said first 1000 who bought NXT made money...and a lot more lost money...incontrovertible)
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May 09, 2015, 10:04:03 PM |
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dadingsda, but you assume that there are no speculators who buy on dips and sell on highs. NEM price is going from 60 to 75 whole month. Im making money, not much because of low volume, but the bottom line is that NEM price is just fluctuating not colapsing like others.
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May 09, 2015, 10:14:44 PM |
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Go read... it has been proven that there have been no major dumps and that the greater majority of XEM holders ( including those that bought on the Nxt AE) are in the green... THEN: NXT average price may/jun - nov 2014 = ~7000 7000*30 000 (~price NXT AE) = ~ 2 BTC = ~ 600$NOW: price NEM = 63* 2,5 mio = ~ 1,6 BTC = 386$Or i´m wrong (serious question!)? - because i bought my NEM on NXT AE. As i said before i´m not here to harm NEM!
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May 09, 2015, 10:34:37 PM |
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NOPE. I dont think that numbers support your theory. I am saying that majority of people who got envolved with NXT are now in red numbers. Majority of people involved with NEM are in green numbers. Dont forget that NXT was sold at 90 mil. mar.cap. now it is not even 9! Volume and interest is biggest on pumps and ATH, so many people lost even 90 percent of value of their investment. No such disaster with NEM.
Yes NXT stakeholders are driving lambos, but people who gave them money to buy those lambos are now desperate and turned into trolls. NEM had no pumps, volatility is not big, and people are waiting for AE and other features. Current price and volume is just logical to me. It just says real project in development. I know you guys think that this thread is dead and there is nothing more to NEM, but that is not truth.
NEM devs left BTT, they consider it toxic, and they also dont care if you will sell your XEM. They are working and they have plenty ideas, but they are not promising shit, because its contraproductive. Things gonna be ninja.
Also, this is not communist movement. It is equality of opportunity, now we are in free market forces phaze. Someone makes money someone loses money. What should devs do? A little pump for bored crowds? No, thank you.
nice post! Coming out with features/development ninja style is how real companies do things, look at the Apple watch release or Tesla powerwall ...
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May 09, 2015, 10:43:33 PM |
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Or i´m wrong (serious question!)?
What kind of logic is that and why should NEM be held accountable for decreases in the NXT/USD rate? Check the logic out for a sec... you're saying that if someone bought 1 NEMstake for 40000 NXT but had bought his/her NXT in November 2013... he/she only paid 0.04 BTC for it. Ive actually just been looking at the NXT prices and NXT has actually taken a bigger dive than NEM for whatever reason, and NEM appears to be at a more stable price currently. But to say that NEM is accountable for the loss in NXT is totally wrong. I cant explain the reason why NXT has dropped so much lately, but i wouldnt expect it to stay this way for long, and that goes for NEM too, both will bounce back up in due course. Things have not been so crash hot for crypto these last 12 months.
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May 09, 2015, 10:46:18 PM |
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Guys give it a rest... Some people won some lost.. Nothing can be done about that now and looking at historical data is pointless when trying to gauge potential.
Why not sit tight for a while and let the devs work their magic. There's a bright future ahead so there is no reason to dwell on or debate the past.
Please take this to pm if you wish to continue the debate as its not helping anyone doing it here. Thanks.
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