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June 21, 2012, 11:41:18 AM
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so how do u propose to capitalize on such "fair" prices?

how about this?  why don't YOU buy my 24 oz from me since you DO know the real price.  i will sell them to you, seriously.

Hold physical metal.

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Seriously, since you have been so confident that gold peaked last year and it's about to "collapse" any minute, I am shocked to learn that you still have 24 oz left in your possession. Did you forget to empty all your pockets?  Wink
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June 21, 2012, 12:34:31 PM
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no kidding.  where's the inflation?

Toiling away in the shadows and behind closed doors in posh offices; anywhere the spotlight of attention is not aimed.

i want to sell 24 oz of gold Krugerands.  can u tell me where i can get the fair price of $35,000 per oz, please?

In germany, where we use a comma (",") as decimal separator.
Das stimmt nicht mehr. heute wird bei uns auch der punkt als dezimalseparateur benutzt (wird seit etwa 10 jahren so gelehrt).

translation:
no we use the "."

Ehrlich? Is ja cool. Dürfen wir dann bald auch kleinschreiben nach gusto?

translation: fuck I'm old

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June 21, 2012, 12:56:05 PM
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so how do u propose to capitalize on such "fair" prices?

how about this?  why don't YOU buy my 24 oz from me since you DO know the real price.  i will sell them to you, seriously.

Hold physical metal.

No
lol.
Seriously, since you have been so confident that gold peaked last year and it's about to "collapse" any minute, I am shocked to learn that you still have 24 oz left in your possession. Did you forget to empty all your pockets?  Wink

Miscreanity knows full well I kept a couple dozen ounces on hand so again quit looking for inconsistencies.  I'll sell them to you also since you're so confident of this "hidden" price.
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June 21, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
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I have a joke for you guys:

What's a gold bugs worst nightmare?

SOUND MONEY!
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June 21, 2012, 02:06:15 PM
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I have a joke for you guys:

What's a gold bugs worst nightmare?

SOUND MONEY!
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=METALS&p=d1
 Shocked Roll Eyes

 Grin
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June 21, 2012, 02:10:36 PM
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Sitting here on the runway so I couldn't resist:

Gold down, Bitcoin UP!

Edit: Gold DOWN, Bitcoin up.
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June 21, 2012, 02:42:22 PM
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so how do u propose to capitalize on such "fair" prices?

how about this?  why don't YOU buy my 24 oz from me since you DO know the real price.  i will sell them to you, seriously.

Hold physical metal.

No
lol.
Seriously, since you have been so confident that gold peaked last year and it's about to "collapse" any minute, I am shocked to learn that you still have 24 oz left in your possession. Did you forget to empty all your pockets?  Wink

Miscreanity knows full well I kept a couple dozen ounces on hand so again quit looking for inconsistencies. 
The inconsistency is there, no matter you told other people or not. My advice: if you aren't so sure about the "collapse", make sure they are not fool's gold and stash the coins away.
Otherwise, put your money where you mouth is.


I'll sell them to you also since you're so confident of this "hidden" price.
No, thank you. I am sleeping and eating quite well with what I already have.

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June 21, 2012, 05:14:43 PM
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The message from the overlords: Look at price, not who's buying!

Good ol' Sinclair. A shame he's too busy with gold to give BTC much consideration.




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June 21, 2012, 07:03:55 PM
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BTC [usd] [eur] [gold] [gld]

I knew it, the forum software is biased!

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June 21, 2012, 07:26:45 PM
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That will be BTC20 please. The symbol is too big and shouldn't be bold.

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June 21, 2012, 08:22:03 PM
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That will be BTC20 please. The symbol is too big and shouldn't be bold.

I don't understand. BTC20. What's the problem?

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June 21, 2012, 08:57:02 PM
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That will be BTC20 please. The symbol is too big and shouldn't be bold.

I don't understand. BTC20. What's the problem?
I saw what you did there  Cheesy

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June 21, 2012, 09:34:50 PM
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BTC [usd] [eur] [gold] [gld]

I knew it, the forum software is biased!

 Cheesy

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June 21, 2012, 11:25:53 PM
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lol.
Seriously, since you have been so confident that gold peaked last year and it's about to "collapse" any minute, I am shocked to learn that you still have 24 oz left in your possession. Did you forget to empty all your pockets?  Wink

I'm surprised that he won't sell for a 'collapsed' price of maybe $100/oz Smiley
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June 22, 2012, 01:41:09 AM
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lol.
Seriously, since you have been so confident that gold peaked last year and it's about to "collapse" any minute, I am shocked to learn that you still have 24 oz left in your possession. Did you forget to empty all your pockets?  Wink

I'm surprised that he won't sell for a 'collapsed' price of maybe $100/oz Smiley

of course you completely miss what's going on.  i, unlike you, accept the current spot price of gold for what it is.  you, otoh, continuously claim that the real price of gold is somewhere north of $2000 based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever.  Roll Eyes
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June 22, 2012, 02:54:34 AM
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of course you completely miss what's going on.  i, unlike you, accept the current spot price of gold for what it is.  you, otoh, continuously claim that the real price of gold is somewhere north of $2000 based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever.  Roll Eyes

Actually, I do accept the spot price for what it is: a lie of omission.

The spot price is not a valid market valuation for physical metal that actually has to be produced through work. It is a perfectly valid valuation for paper representations of physical gold, particularly fractional representations. The participants are overwhelmingly the very institutions that have an interest in obscuring gold in the first place. There's enough evidence from the multiple dumps of futures contracts totaling more metal than is pulled out of the ground on a yearly basis - there is no way to deny that those contracts are functioning as derivatives, not 1:1 claims on real assets. In effect, futures contracts are margin ownership of the underlying asset, and taking delivery is like being among the first to withdraw your money from a Ponzi scheme, leaving others to watch in horror as their paper investment, which was assumed to be firmly tied to a real asset and not just marginally associated, crumbles.

If you have a piece of paper that proclaims its worth as being a valid claim for one Shadow Hawk, and I deliver an actual vehicle to you from across the continent in exchange, that piece of paper had better be worth the amount of effort I went through to procure and ship the real, physical item. If not, I won't accept your piece of paper, and if you still want the vehicle, you will make payment in whatever form I choose because I own what you want. In that case, the paper declines in value while that of the actual, physical object rises. Now that I know you're in a weak position because you want the real thing, I'd be apt to increase the price by a few points for the hassle.

The majority of market participants don't analyze the foundations of the entire monetary system. Instead, they assume what is either in their textbooks, or what financial advisers and Warren Buffett tell them. There is little to no attempt made to discern the difference in supply & demand dynamics of financial instruments and real assets. Sure, MMT works in an abstract sense where financial instruments roam, but it fails spectacularly when it comes to the limits of reality.

Why is gold not $250/oz already? Why is silver not under $10/oz? Why is oil not free?
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June 22, 2012, 03:34:05 AM
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The Silverox Update:

Gold:  -8%

Bitcoin: +24%

Diff:  32%

Silverox's long GPL:  -11%

cypherdoc's GLD short:  +1%,  shorts on SLV, GG, SLW, RGLD, DZZ, ZSL way up.
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June 22, 2012, 04:06:16 AM
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A truly enlightened article about where the monetary system is headed, including Bitcoin and gold.
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June 22, 2012, 05:17:53 AM
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A truly enlightened article about where the monetary system is headed, including Bitcoin and gold.
Found this to be more enlightening,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1V7n3qRRM60#t=21s
  lol ...
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June 22, 2012, 11:34:09 AM
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actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling..  

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...

USDX isnt falling... not until its below $81 would I call it falling.

EDIT $82 is an important level too... just not as important IMO

We didnt even test $82...

EDIT: Metals are inching up with the dollar now... interesting

$82 tested and defended... didnt get close to $81...

USD goes up from here.

USD double bottom on the hourly time frame at  ~$81.75.

Gold and Silver will finish down today.

Double bottom failed.  Im probably wrong about today...

http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=DX&p=d1

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