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July 10, 2014, 03:11:50 AM
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Even better article by Rochard:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/speculative-attack/

He doesn't use the term in this article, but what he describes is the greatest carry trade in history.

Here's an interesting thought experiment:

Imagine that everybody has visibility of all of their money on a smartphone app.  For simplicity, consider that only dollars and bitcoins exist.  The app has two features:

1.  It displays the market value of each user's money, expressed in whatever currency is currently "dominant," along with the exchange rate between the two currencies.  

2.  There is a slider bar that allows each user to dynamically adjust their personal exposure to anywhere between 0% bitcoins and 100% bitcoins:
                
    0% BTC / 100% USD   <-----|||SLIDERBAR|||----------------------------------->   100% BTC / 0% USD

Assume there is no fee for trading and no slippage.  If it was this easy for everyone, what would people do?  

Bitcoin adoption is all about slowly coaxing the world to move that imaginary slider bar a little further to the right!
  

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July 10, 2014, 03:24:07 AM
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"M-COMMERCE GURU: ACCEPT BITCOIN NOW OR GET LEFT BEHIND"

http://cryptocrimson.com/2014/07/m-commerce-guru-accept-bitcoin-now-get-left-behind/
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July 10, 2014, 03:55:33 AM
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Brock Pierce is a traitor:

http://rdd.me/8dzhpxaq
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July 10, 2014, 04:59:01 AM
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The seven data points are:

Developer interest on GitHub
Merchant adoption
Wikipedia views
Hashrate <-- this one's interesting. I've always said HR was important
Google searches
User adoption as measured by wallets
Transaction volume.


http://rdd.me/o2foy8hs
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July 10, 2014, 05:07:40 AM
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Brock Pierce should be shot:

http://rdd.me/8dzhpxaq

Is he that guy that sits on that foundation who has the sole mandate to promote Bitcoin?

This altcoin of his illustrates a lack of understanding on how Bitcoin works moreover it looks like a conflict of interests considering the foundations goal.

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July 10, 2014, 05:13:02 AM
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Brock Pierce should be shot:

http://rdd.me/8dzhpxaq

Is he that guy that sits on that foundation who has the sole mandate to promote Bitcoin?

This altcoin of his illustrates a lack of understanding on how Bitcoin works moreover it looks like a conflict of interests considering the foundations goal.


Yeah, it's all around terrible. I assume this was really why Andreas bailed on the Foundation today.

Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
But Bitcointalk & /r/bitcoin are heavily censored. bitco.in/forum, forum.bitcoin.com, and /r/btc are open.
Best info on Casascius coins: http://spotcoins.com/casascius
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July 10, 2014, 06:47:20 AM
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Even better article by Rochard:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/speculative-attack/

He doesn't use the term in this article, but what he describes is the greatest carry trade in history.

Here's an interesting thought experiment:

Imagine that everybody has visibility of all of their money on a smartphone app.  For simplicity, consider that only dollars and bitcoins exist.  The app has two features:

1.  It displays the market value of each user's money, expressed in whatever currency is currently "dominant," along with the exchange rate between the two currencies.  

2.  There is a slider bar that allows each user to dynamically adjust their personal exposure to anywhere between 0% bitcoins and 100% bitcoins:
                
    0% BTC / 100% USD   <-----|||SLIDERBAR|||----------------------------------->   100% BTC / 0% USD

Assume there is no fee for trading and no slippage.  If it was this easy for everyone, what would people do?  

Bitcoin adoption is all about slowly coaxing the world to move that imaginary slider bar a little further to the right!
  
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Imaginary?

You might have discovered bitcoins killer app right there.

PGP key molecular F9B70769 fingerprint 9CDD C0D3 20F8 279F 6BE0  3F39 FC49 2362 F9B7 0769
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July 10, 2014, 09:28:26 AM
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Massive gold spike
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July 10, 2014, 09:55:17 AM
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Yeah, no kidding.
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July 10, 2014, 10:06:53 AM
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Big test for stocks tomorrow
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July 10, 2014, 10:51:32 AM
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Big test for stocks tomorrow
I'm guessing it's going to be an ugly day for stocks.

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July 10, 2014, 10:54:01 AM
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Big test for stocks tomorrow
I'm guessing it's going to be an ugly day for stocks.



whats happening thats gong to make it an ugly day for stocks?

"Pioneering a revolutionary novel consensus mechanism called proof of importance."
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July 10, 2014, 11:01:27 AM
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Switched position on the vix 2 days ago. Now I'm sweating bullets because of the huge contango. Today will probably give me the out I need. Hopefully at a profit.

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July 10, 2014, 11:01:58 AM
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Big test for stocks tomorrow
I'm guessing it's going to be an ugly day for stocks.



whats happening thats gong to make it an ugly day for stocks?
Futures down nearly 1%, gold soaring, DOW 17k didn't hold, BIS calling on Central Banks to bring forward the down leg of the cycle to prevent a bust

People are ready to panic imo
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July 10, 2014, 11:08:11 AM
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Big test for stocks tomorrow
I'm guessing it's going to be an ugly day for stocks.



whats happening thats gong to make it an ugly day for stocks?
Portugal fears in Europe.
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July 10, 2014, 11:12:00 AM
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Big test for stocks tomorrow
I'm guessing it's going to be an ugly day for stocks.



whats happening thats gong to make it an ugly day for stocks?
Futures down nearly 1%, gold soaring, DOW 17k didn't hold, BIS calling on Central Banks to bring forward the down leg of the cycle to prevent a bust

People are ready to panic imo

hmm lets hope this all benefits bitcoin Smiley

"Pioneering a revolutionary novel consensus mechanism called proof of importance."
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July 10, 2014, 11:17:24 AM
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Shit look at gold even comex. This actually might be the beginning of zero hedges long predicted European gold boom.

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July 10, 2014, 12:23:33 PM
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Even better article by Rochard:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/speculative-attack/

He doesn't use the term in this article, but what he describes is the greatest carry trade in history.

I liked the skeptics, from that site:

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/the-skeptics/

They even have a Serious Economist, Lisa Kramer.

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July 10, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
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He basically says that storing bitcoin is easy for individuals, but for organizations of diverse type it is difficult and costly. Interesting.
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July 10, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
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Blowback happening.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-10/germany-expels-cia-chief-over-spying-scandal-amid-deep-rift

This is what happens when you get so full of yourself.
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