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July 17, 2016, 03:42:33 PM
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Wow, I cannot believe it. Now it looks the price has started the usual thing, declining. If I bought when I was told here I would be losing now.
The value of my current Monero declines but it doesn't matter me. Now it is down 2.47 % and the today's chart look hopeless.
It's been consolidating in this range ~0.0029-0.0031 for almost two weeks. Seems fine to me.

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Mimimi stop your nonsense talk you said you don´t buy before the price does not go back to 100k. Nonsense in spamming the thread like you do all day all the time.
You are not speculating only thing we hear is you crying over and over
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July 17, 2016, 08:13:17 PM
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Wow, I cannot believe it. Now it looks the price has started the usual thing, declining. If I bought when I was told here I would be losing now.
The value of my current Monero declines but it doesn't matter me. Now it is down 2.47 % and the today's chart look hopeless.

EDIT: Already -3.12%  Shocked
EDIT: -3.76% - I wonder where the bearish troll is Mr. Kavasaki....


Mimimi stop your nonsense talk you said you don´t buy before the price does not go back to 100k. Nonsense in spamming the thread like you do all day all the time.
You are not speculating only thing we hear is you crying over and over

-5.14 %

Man, we are going down now. I hope we do not reach my buy zone though. Luckily we are long from it.
I kinda felt similarly than someone earlier - consolidation to 0.0025 is the spot we are heading towards.
Of course whales can surprise us and buy it all the way up to 0.004....
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July 17, 2016, 08:35:34 PM
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Mimimi stop your nonsense talk you said you don´t buy before the price does not go back to 100k. Nonsense in spamming the thread like you do all day all the time.
You are not speculating only thing we hear is you crying over and over

TrueTroll thrives on being quoted, gets him past all the ignores. Lol

Just don't quote him and he'll slink away again.

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July 17, 2016, 09:39:17 PM
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What is the cost of mining one XMR ?
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July 17, 2016, 09:43:10 PM
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What is the cost of mining one XMR ?

Depends on what you are mining with and how much your electricity costs.

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July 17, 2016, 09:49:49 PM
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What is the cost of mining one XMR ?

Depends on what you are mining with and how much your electricity costs.

What does mining one XMR cost you?

Assuming you do mine.

If you want to share. No pressure.

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July 17, 2016, 10:12:57 PM
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What is the cost of mining one XMR ?

Depends on what you are mining with and how much your electricity costs.

What does mining one XMR cost you?

Assuming you do mine.

If you want to share. No pressure.

I havent mined it ages, when I did I didn't calculate the costs because of free electricity.  It should be profitable with its current valuation if you have fairly cheap electricity.

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July 17, 2016, 10:19:05 PM
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electricity..not so much
an old computer...few bucks
monero reward.....priceless

And it comes with free entertainment on a forum too Smiley
I mine about 0.1 XMR/ day and it feels the same as in 2010 mining 0.1 bitcoin/day just with my PC.
In any mining effort of any altcoin, it is important to think of the future price, not the quick rewards.

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July 17, 2016, 10:26:03 PM
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electricity..not so much
an old computer...few bucks
monero reward.....priceless

And it comes with free entertainment on a forum too Smiley
I mine about 0.1 XMR/ day and it feels the same as in 2010 mining 0.1 bitcoin/day just with my PC.
In any mining effort of any altcoin, it is important to think of the future price, not the quick rewards.

Many look at the price, but overlook the technology.

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July 17, 2016, 10:35:09 PM
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electricity..not so much
an old computer...few bucks
monero reward.....priceless

And it comes with free entertainment on a forum too Smiley
I mine about 0.1 XMR/ day and it feels the same as in 2010 mining 0.1 bitcoin/day just with my PC.
In any mining effort of any altcoin, it is important to think of the future price, not the quick rewards.

Yes, if you have an old computer you can mine for fun and to decentralize further and support the network but when considering future price it usually makes more economic sense to just buy it rather then invest in mining equipment.

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July 17, 2016, 10:37:17 PM
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electricity..not so much
an old computer...few bucks
monero reward.....priceless

And it comes with free entertainment on a forum too Smiley
I mine about 0.1 XMR/ day and it feels the same as in 2010 mining 0.1 bitcoin/day just with my PC.
In any mining effort of any altcoin, it is important to think of the future price, not the quick rewards.

Many look at the price, but overlook the technology.

I agree. Monero works fine at 0.01 usd/xmr and 1000000000000 usd/xmr. I am perhaps too focused on the price and that's the very reason I am writing on the speculation thread only.
Speaking about the price, it still is down from 24 hrs ago.  Grin
Where is the army of trolls... If you go bitcoin side speculation sub forum you see in the red days RIP BTC-posts and in the green days posts tell how scarce bitcoin is and it is about to be bought by Federal Reserve tomorrow.
Monero lacks completely the bullish and bearish trolls that are trolling in hard core manner.
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July 17, 2016, 10:42:52 PM
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There are a lot of different measures of value for a coin like XMR. There is the current value in btc on exchanges, there is the hopium value, supported by assorted conjectures and beliefs wrt the relationship between features (like a new GUI) and price, there is the ideological view of value, usually supported by assertions and beliefs wrt features a coin provides (like anonymity) and their perceived effect on future adoption and then there is the real value, which is somewhere just above the cost of producing a coin.

I mine, but not monero. I asked because I was curious how closely the exchange value in btc approaches the cost of mining at this time.
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July 18, 2016, 12:06:47 AM
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There are a lot of different measures of value for a coin like XMR. There is the current value in btc on exchanges, there is the hopium value, supported by assorted conjectures and beliefs wrt the relationship between features (like a new GUI) and price, there is the ideological view of value, usually supported by assertions and beliefs wrt features a coin provides (like anonymity) and their perceived effect on future adoption and then there is the real value, which is somewhere just above the cost of producing a coin.

I mine, but not monero. I asked because I was curious how closely the exchange value in btc approaches the cost of mining at this time.

well, the most efficient way to mine is probably the 750 ti.

At current network difficulty, thats 0.09 xmr / day.

The card pulls ~33 watts.

At a rate of 12 cents / kWh, thats $0.09504 per day.

so if any of the math works, thats roughly 95 cents per xmr. So right now its very profitable to mine, if hardware is all paid for.

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July 18, 2016, 01:35:16 AM
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There are a lot of different measures of value for a coin like XMR. There is the current value in btc on exchanges, there is the hopium value, supported by assorted conjectures and beliefs wrt the relationship between features (like a new GUI) and price, there is the ideological view of value, usually supported by assertions and beliefs wrt features a coin provides (like anonymity) and their perceived effect on future adoption and then there is the real value, which is somewhere just above the cost of producing a coin.

I mine, but not monero. I asked because I was curious how closely the exchange value in btc approaches the cost of mining at this time.

well, the most efficient way to mine is probably the 750 ti.

At current network difficulty, thats 0.09 xmr / day.

The card pulls ~33 watts.

At a rate of 12 cents / kWh, thats $0.09504 per day.

so if any of the math works, thats roughly 95 cents per xmr. So right now its very profitable to mine, if hardware is all paid for.

Thanks for sharing the numbers.

Any ETA on smart mining?
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July 18, 2016, 02:21:24 AM
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Monero lacks completely the bullish and bearish trolls that are trolling in hard core manner.

Hey man, I'm doing all I can to stir the pot and goad the haters into using shorts to keep the price low for us buyers.

The closest we have to a respectable troll is Shelby, who isn't nearly as qualified as Prof Stolfi (the boss of the Buttcoiners).

We do have some remarkable bulls, in the form of Risto and Pegasus.

For now, that's fine.

Drama will intensify in proportion to market cap, Soon.TM


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Monero lacks completely the bullish and bearish trolls that are trolling in hard core manner.

Hey man, I'm doing all I can to stir the pot and goad the haters into using shorts to keep the price low for us buyers.

The closest we have to a respectable troll is Shelby, who isn't nearly as qualified as Prof Stolfi (the boss of the Buttcoiners).

We do have some remarkable bulls, in the form of Risto and Pegasus.

For now, that's fine.

Drama will intensify in proportion to market cap, Soon.TM

I'll try to troll you guys if you want? Not much, I know. But it's a start?

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Primer- is maybe not the calibre of enemy one would like, but he is pretty deeply trollish.  Illodin is a somewhat higher grade of troll, but less deeply so.

Maybe we should use the forum funding system to incentivize more  aggressive, higher quality trolling? 

Nah, unnecessary: Just send iCEBREAKER into the da(e)sh threads, and we'll have more retribution trolls than we could ever use.

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Primer- is maybe not the calibre of enemy one would like, but he is pretty deeply trollish.  Illodin is a somewhat higher grade of troll, but less deeply so.

Maybe we should use the forum funding system to incentivize more  aggressive, higher quality trolling?


I think one of my biggest hurdles would be the fact that you guys really aren't all that funny, but it would be a step up for me. Ethereum isn't even a moving target. Undecided

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Primer- is maybe not the calibre of enemy one would like, but he is pretty deeply trollish.  Illodin is a somewhat higher grade of troll, but less deeply so.

Maybe we should use the forum funding system to incentivize more  aggressive, higher quality trolling? 


Lol...the ranking of the quality and calibre of trolls...i swear I'd rather read these threads than pay $20+ to go out to a movie that probably isn't that good anyway. This is more entertaining (at least for me). Go on with the chlorophyll!

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