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March 30, 2013, 12:17:41 AM |
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A new whale appears? 12zHnb8nBQL3bDcWt69MhnRrthZUGFpikf
Hope so ! Like the last day of january (+15k) Good old time when a 500btc bet was common We just need 3338 Btc more to match fiat february sum..
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Lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone. it has lots of buttery taste..
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MeatPopsicle
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March 30, 2013, 05:25:54 AM |
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A new whale appears? 12zHnb8nBQL3bDcWt69MhnRrthZUGFpikf
For those too lazy to dig: First Bet | Last Bet | bets | winnings | profit ---------------------+---------------------+---------------+---------------+-------------- 2013-03-28 19:11:46 | 2013-03-29 11:20:48 | 2394.00000000 | 2757.05458660 | 363.05458660
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March 30, 2013, 04:03:35 PM |
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A new whale appears? 12zHnb8nBQL3bDcWt69MhnRrthZUGFpikf
For those too lazy to dig: First Bet | Last Bet | bets | winnings | profit ---------------------+---------------------+---------------+---------------+-------------- 2013-03-28 19:11:46 | 2013-03-29 11:20:48 | 2394.00000000 | 2757.05458660 | 363.05458660
Ahh the conspiracy theories now. Was the whale trying to make a profit for SD for the end of the month to bring shares up? Was the whale trying to score a couple of big wins to bring SD shares to their knees? Got to love the whales. Almost as much as mystery miners or the manipulator!
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dooglus
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March 30, 2013, 07:24:44 PM |
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Total of 92 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Mar-30 12:23pm (up to block 228800)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 114831 | 3 (0.00003) | 113039 | 1789 | 1378.20 | 3841.37 | 140.32 | -2463.16 | 278.723 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 6274 | 0 (0.00000) | 5727 | 547 | 104.35 | 0.11 | 21.66 | 104.24 | 0.107 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 8588 | 1 (0.00012) | 8127 | 460 | 132.47 | 160.08 | 14.53 | -27.61 | 120.846 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 14947 | 5 (0.00035) | 14456 | 486 | 295.37 | 432.33 | 10.10 | -136.96 | 146.369 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 16107 | 1 (0.00006) | 15654 | 452 | 559.48 | 5.37 | 22.09 | 554.10 | 0.961 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 23182 | 11 (0.00048) | 22757 | 414 | 1360.62 | 1537.59 | 1.44 | -176.96 | 113.006 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 25888 | 32 (0.00126) | 25365 | 491 | 1906.92 | 1521.12 | 55.90 | 385.79 | 79.768 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 20515 | 38 (0.00190) | 20007 | 470 | 2369.77 | 1562.84 | 48.42 | 806.92 | 65.949 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 25742 | 112 (0.00442) | 25230 | 400 | 5990.76 | 8651.09 | 13.24 | -2660.33 | 144.407 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 36587 | 294 (0.00820) | 35579 | 714 | 8206.72 | 6797.11 | 10.09 | 1409.60 | 82.824 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 128912 | 1954 (0.01522) | 126403 | 555 | 40746.49 | 35990.15 | 2.18 | 4756.34 | 88.327 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 25263 | 578 (0.02321) | 24325 | 360 | 7954.77 | 8555.96 | 15.10 | -601.19 | 107.558 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 82558 | 2539 (0.03090) | 79618 | 401 | 40710.53 | 36583.77 | 9.38 | 4126.75 | 89.863 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 29824 | 1353 (0.04608) | 28008 | 463 | 9785.42 | 10619.59 | 25.30 | -834.16 | 108.525 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 35777 | 2195 (0.06205) | 33181 | 401 | 7693.79 | 7500.46 | 31.38 | 193.33 | 97.487 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 49667 | 4524 (0.09196) | 44669 | 474 | 16757.68 | 18387.04 | 7.40 | -1629.35 | 109.723 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 194279 | 23776 (0.12272) | 169964 | 539 | 95800.01 | 94755.34 | 100.61 | 1044.66 | 98.910 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 102650 | 18703 (0.18322) | 83377 | 570 | 175020.02 | 176071.55 | 3315.01 | -1051.52 | 100.601 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 264853 | 64515 (0.24413) | 199748 | 590 | 372169.12 | 358152.83 | 2322.52 | 14016.28 | 96.234 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 260395 | 95593 (0.36797) | 164192 | 610 | 588670.76 | 580835.81 | 1013.31 | 7834.95 | 98.669 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1155789 | 563195 (0.48801) | 590865 | 1729 | 898605.64 | 880427.12 | 2925.20 | 18178.51 | 97.977 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 642528 | 320418 (0.49966) | 320850 | 1260 | 676866.34 | 660225.30 | 6521.70 | 16641.04 | 97.541 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 364088 | 267120 (0.73509) | 96262 | 706 | 306587.11 | 299468.84 | 6172.08 | 7118.27 | 97.678 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 81303 | 64134 (0.79431) | 16608 | 561 | 63575.23 | 62172.03 | 1187.70 | 1403.20 | 97.793 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 72346 | 61475 (0.85720) | 10241 | 630 | 80898.31 | 80127.68 | 400.73 | 770.62 | 99.047 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 111835 | 101879 (0.91610) | 9330 | 626 | 73483.35 | 72441.45 | 0.81 | 1041.90 | 98.582 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 18685 | 17081 (0.97975) | 353 | 1251 | 24570.26 | 24156.48 | 240.41 | 413.77 | 98.316 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 3794026 | 1557509 | 2218861 | 17656 | 805069.60 | 791433.01 | 283.53 | 13636.59 | 98.306 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 119387 | 54020 | 65074 | 293 | 2697130.00 | 2639547.51 | 24345.21 | 57582.49 | 97.865 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3913413 | 1611529 | 2283935 | 17949 | 3502199.61 | 3430980.52 | 24628.75 | 71219.08 | 97.966 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 71219.08803410 BTC (2.034%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3121.57937500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 68097.50865910 BTC (1.944%) Pending Liabilities: 72.59336105 BTC Final SD Profit: 68024.91529805 BTC (1.942%) Profit This Month: 1348.54784017 BTC ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 12355340 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7190303 (58.2%) Blockchain MB: 5338.7 : SatoshiDice MB: 2962.7 (55.5%)
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dooglus
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April 01, 2013, 03:52:22 AM |
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My script calculated the end-of-month profits as being: Feb: 66676.36745788 Mar: 67842.92656762 Monthly profit: 1166.55910974 BTC Total of 55 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Mar-31 08:35pm (up to block 229034)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 115915 | 3 (0.00003) | 114104 | 1808 | 1394.72 | 3841.45 | 140.92 | -2446.72 | 275.427 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 6314 | 0 (0.00000) | 5763 | 551 | 104.95 | 0.11 | 21.67 | 104.83 | 0.109 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 8647 | 1 (0.00012) | 8180 | 466 | 133.35 | 160.09 | 14.53 | -26.73 | 120.052 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 15078 | 5 (0.00034) | 14585 | 488 | 296.92 | 432.33 | 10.11 | -135.41 | 145.604 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 16157 | 1 (0.00006) | 15701 | 455 | 560.87 | 5.38 | 22.10 | 555.49 | 0.960 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 23248 | 11 (0.00048) | 22822 | 415 | 1363.43 | 1537.60 | 1.45 | -174.17 | 112.775 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 25981 | 32 (0.00126) | 25457 | 492 | 1913.05 | 1521.15 | 55.90 | 391.90 | 79.514 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 20623 | 38 (0.00189) | 20115 | 470 | 2376.21 | 1562.87 | 48.42 | 813.33 | 65.772 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 25796 | 113 (0.00445) | 25279 | 404 | 5991.92 | 8653.60 | 13.25 | -2661.67 | 144.421 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 36818 | 295 (0.00817) | 35804 | 719 | 8252.17 | 6897.58 | 10.11 | 1354.59 | 83.585 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 129778 | 1964 (0.01520) | 127255 | 559 | 40810.04 | 36055.71 | 2.19 | 4754.32 | 88.350 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 25303 | 578 (0.02317) | 24364 | 361 | 7956.15 | 8555.97 | 15.10 | -599.81 | 107.539 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 83357 | 2560 (0.03086) | 80395 | 402 | 40756.66 | 36627.95 | 9.38 | 4128.71 | 89.870 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 29882 | 1356 (0.04610) | 28058 | 468 | 9788.42 | 10624.03 | 25.32 | -835.60 | 108.537 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 35846 | 2201 (0.06210) | 33243 | 402 | 7716.68 | 7504.02 | 31.39 | 212.66 | 97.244 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 49874 | 4539 (0.09189) | 44857 | 478 | 16763.13 | 18388.86 | 7.41 | -1625.73 | 109.698 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 195199 | 23879 (0.12267) | 170779 | 541 | 95849.40 | 94801.22 | 100.62 | 1048.18 | 98.906 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 103163 | 18769 (0.18296) | 83817 | 577 | 175077.20 | 176095.14 | 3315.03 | -1017.94 | 100.581 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 266662 | 64984 (0.24424) | 201083 | 595 | 372302.62 | 358310.42 | 2322.54 | 13992.19 | 96.242 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 261277 | 95897 (0.36789) | 164768 | 612 | 588822.15 | 581073.59 | 1013.31 | 7748.56 | 98.684 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1159113 | 564823 (0.48802) | 592552 | 1738 | 900818.35 | 882888.10 | 2925.23 | 17930.24 | 98.010 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 646088 | 322146 (0.49960) | 322664 | 1278 | 677934.99 | 661352.55 | 6521.77 | 16582.43 | 97.554 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 365736 | 268315 (0.73508) | 96702 | 719 | 306892.70 | 299752.22 | 6172.15 | 7140.47 | 97.673 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 81921 | 64634 (0.79447) | 16721 | 566 | 63801.98 | 62383.57 | 1187.72 | 1418.40 | 97.777 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 73024 | 62030 (0.85692) | 10357 | 637 | 81029.56 | 80255.37 | 400.77 | 774.19 | 99.045 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 113300 | 103210 (0.91613) | 9449 | 641 | 73676.17 | 72629.34 | 0.87 | 1046.83 | 98.579 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 18880 | 17245 (0.97983) | 355 | 1280 | 24601.63 | 24187.97 | 240.46 | 413.66 | 98.319 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 3813396 | 1565496 | 2230071 | 17829 | 807283.15 | 793576.31 | 284.63 | 13706.84 | 98.302 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 119584 | 54133 | 65158 | 293 | 2699702.39 | 2642521.99 | 24345.21 | 57180.39 | 97.882 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3932980 | 1619629 | 2295229 | 18122 | 3506985.55 | 3436098.30 | 24629.84 | 70887.24 | 97.979 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 70887.24277234 BTC (2.021%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3142.10437500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 67745.13839734 BTC (1.932%) Pending Liabilities: 3.97082145 BTC Final SD Profit: 67741.16757589 BTC (1.932%) Profit This Month: -101.75899173 BTC ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 12419592 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7226224 (58.2%) Blockchain MB: 5376.1 : SatoshiDice MB: 2977.8 (55.4%)
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BTCdude007
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April 01, 2013, 05:36:49 PM |
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Looks like there is a profit for March.
But it is unclear. Which is correct?
> Monthly profit: 1166.55910974 BTC or > Profit This Month: -101.75899173 BTC
Why the difference?
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FTWbitcoinFTW
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April 01, 2013, 06:05:54 PM |
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Looks like there is a profit for March.
But it is unclear. Which is correct?
> Monthly profit: 1166.55910974 BTC or > Profit This Month: -101.75899173 BTC
Why the difference?
-101 is the start of april i guess I trust dooglus for 1166 Erik's update will come within this week Mind game : Profit without less than 1 (1920+1620+620) = 4160 +1166 = 5320 * 103$ = 547.000$.
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Lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone. it has lots of buttery taste..
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dooglus
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April 01, 2013, 06:45:50 PM |
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Looks like there is a profit for March.
But it is unclear. Which is correct?
> Monthly profit: 1166.55910974 BTC or > Profit This Month: -101.75899173 BTC
Why the difference?
Yeah, I should have been clearer. The +1166 was March's profit and the -101 is April's. The official number will be different I expect. I just go by the timestamps on the blocks, whereas Erik probably uses the actual processing time. But it'll probably be pretty close.
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dooglus
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April 01, 2013, 07:41:08 PM |
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Total of 99 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Apr-01 12:36pm (up to block 229178)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 116222 | 3 (0.00003) | 114406 | 1813 | 1401.31 | 3841.48 | 140.93 | -2440.17 | 274.135 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 6335 | 0 (0.00000) | 5783 | 552 | 105.34 | 0.11 | 22.23 | 105.22 | 0.110 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 8682 | 1 (0.00012) | 8214 | 467 | 134.02 | 160.09 | 14.54 | -26.07 | 119.454 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 15109 | 5 (0.00034) | 14615 | 489 | 297.23 | 432.34 | 10.11 | -135.10 | 145.456 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 16289 | 1 (0.00006) | 15831 | 457 | 562.54 | 5.39 | 22.11 | 557.14 | 0.958 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 23264 | 11 (0.00048) | 22838 | 415 | 1363.87 | 1537.61 | 1.45 | -173.73 | 112.738 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 26017 | 32 (0.00125) | 25492 | 493 | 1915.12 | 1521.16 | 55.90 | 393.95 | 79.429 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 20644 | 38 (0.00188) | 20136 | 470 | 2376.45 | 1562.87 | 48.42 | 813.58 | 65.765 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 25824 | 113 (0.00445) | 25307 | 404 | 5993.21 | 8653.60 | 13.25 | -2660.38 | 144.390 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 36847 | 295 (0.00817) | 35832 | 720 | 8255.42 | 6897.59 | 10.11 | 1357.82 | 83.552 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 129957 | 1965 (0.01519) | 127431 | 561 | 40898.68 | 36057.43 | 2.19 | 4841.24 | 88.163 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 25352 | 579 (0.02317) | 24411 | 362 | 7959.55 | 8556.41 | 15.11 | -596.86 | 107.499 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 83500 | 2561 (0.03082) | 80536 | 403 | 40887.55 | 36629.56 | 9.39 | 4257.98 | 89.586 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 29902 | 1356 (0.04607) | 28077 | 469 | 9795.61 | 10624.07 | 25.33 | -828.45 | 108.457 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 35887 | 2202 (0.06206) | 33282 | 403 | 7717.96 | 7504.98 | 31.39 | 212.98 | 97.240 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 49958 | 4544 (0.09184) | 44933 | 481 | 16767.98 | 18389.74 | 7.42 | -1621.75 | 109.672 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 195573 | 23933 (0.12271) | 171098 | 542 | 96018.30 | 94904.72 | 100.62 | 1113.58 | 98.840 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 103475 | 18818 (0.18289) | 84077 | 580 | 175212.18 | 176154.76 | 3315.04 | -942.58 | 100.538 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 267512 | 65190 (0.24424) | 201725 | 597 | 372459.85 | 358504.57 | 2322.55 | 13955.28 | 96.253 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 261802 | 96088 (0.36789) | 165100 | 614 | 588965.08 | 581236.99 | 1013.32 | 7728.08 | 98.688 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1161533 | 566074 (0.48808) | 593717 | 1742 | 901776.80 | 883821.12 | 2925.25 | 17955.68 | 98.009 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 647546 | 322861 (0.49958) | 323400 | 1285 | 678557.02 | 661916.41 | 6521.79 | 16640.61 | 97.548 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 366839 | 269114 (0.73506) | 96999 | 726 | 306956.78 | 299810.85 | 6172.17 | 7145.93 | 97.672 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 82285 | 64917 (0.79447) | 16794 | 574 | 63881.90 | 62455.64 | 1187.74 | 1426.25 | 97.767 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 73354 | 62301 (0.85681) | 10412 | 641 | 81156.74 | 80377.74 | 400.78 | 778.99 | 99.040 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 113887 | 103749 (0.91619) | 9491 | 647 | 73841.13 | 72791.99 | 0.90 | 1049.13 | 98.579 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 18985 | 17336 (0.97982) | 357 | 1292 | 24662.42 | 24248.32 | 240.47 | 414.10 | 98.321 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 3822812 | 1569890 | 2235016 | 17906 | 808377.20 | 794589.14 | 285.41 | 13788.06 | 98.294 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 119768 | 54197 | 65278 | 293 | 2701542.96 | 2644008.53 | 24345.21 | 57534.42 | 97.870 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3942580 | 1624087 | 2300294 | 18199 | 3509920.16 | 3438597.68 | 24630.62 | 71322.48 | 97.968 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 71322.48764929 BTC (2.032%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3152.12197500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 68170.36567429 BTC (1.942%) Pending Liabilities: 2.74094967 BTC Final SD Profit: 68167.62472462 BTC (1.942%) Profit This Month: 324.69815700 BTC ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 12453450 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7244365 (58.2%) Blockchain MB: 5393.3 : SatoshiDice MB: 2985.3 (55.4%)
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Wow, if that luck keeps up for the rest of the month
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dooglus
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Total of 38 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Apr-02 05:53pm (up to block 229396)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 117065 | 3 (0.00003) | 115233 | 1829 | 1414.17 | 3841.55 | 141.56 | -2427.37 | 271.646 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 6579 | 0 (0.00000) | 6027 | 552 | 108.37 | 0.13 | 22.23 | 108.24 | 0.121 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 8737 | 1 (0.00012) | 8267 | 469 | 134.73 | 160.09 | 14.54 | -25.36 | 118.826 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 15174 | 5 (0.00034) | 14680 | 489 | 298.21 | 432.34 | 10.11 | -134.12 | 144.976 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 16376 | 1 (0.00006) | 15913 | 462 | 563.82 | 5.39 | 22.13 | 558.43 | 0.957 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 23313 | 11 (0.00048) | 22887 | 415 | 1364.85 | 1537.61 | 1.45 | -172.75 | 112.657 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 26097 | 32 (0.00125) | 25571 | 494 | 1916.57 | 1521.17 | 55.90 | 395.39 | 79.370 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 20702 | 38 (0.00188) | 20194 | 470 | 2378.43 | 1562.88 | 48.42 | 815.54 | 65.711 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 25869 | 113 (0.00444) | 25352 | 404 | 5996.31 | 8653.62 | 13.25 | -2657.31 | 144.316 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 36950 | 296 (0.00817) | 35927 | 727 | 8282.14 | 6898.98 | 10.12 | 1383.16 | 83.299 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 130706 | 1969 (0.01513) | 128174 | 563 | 40985.93 | 36073.86 | 2.20 | 4912.07 | 88.015 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 25437 | 581 (0.02317) | 24491 | 365 | 7961.09 | 8558.13 | 15.12 | -597.03 | 107.499 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 83926 | 2567 (0.03073) | 80956 | 403 | 40955.66 | 36632.49 | 9.39 | 4323.17 | 89.444 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 30018 | 1365 (0.04620) | 28181 | 472 | 9807.42 | 10627.35 | 25.34 | -819.92 | 108.360 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 36000 | 2208 (0.06203) | 33389 | 403 | 7720.28 | 7507.71 | 31.39 | 212.56 | 97.247 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 50139 | 4557 (0.09178) | 45096 | 486 | 16784.71 | 18393.66 | 7.43 | -1608.94 | 109.586 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 196153 | 23994 (0.12266) | 171617 | 542 | 96102.39 | 94964.83 | 100.62 | 1137.55 | 98.816 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 104116 | 18929 (0.18283) | 84602 | 585 | 175322.09 | 176228.39 | 3315.05 | -906.30 | 100.517 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 269255 | 65619 (0.24425) | 203035 | 601 | 372751.10 | 358759.45 | 2322.57 | 13991.64 | 96.246 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 263236 | 96608 (0.36786) | 166012 | 616 | 589591.49 | 581774.34 | 1013.33 | 7817.15 | 98.674 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1165549 | 568024 (0.48808) | 595767 | 1758 | 903073.59 | 885139.12 | 2925.31 | 17934.46 | 98.014 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 650703 | 324450 (0.49961) | 324958 | 1295 | 679246.94 | 662478.67 | 6521.82 | 16768.27 | 97.531 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 369382 | 271007 (0.73515) | 97637 | 738 | 307279.04 | 300173.25 | 6172.22 | 7105.78 | 97.688 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 82848 | 65356 (0.79442) | 16913 | 579 | 64093.30 | 62681.56 | 1187.77 | 1411.74 | 97.797 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 73887 | 62750 (0.85676) | 10491 | 646 | 81270.64 | 80486.72 | 400.81 | 783.91 | 99.035 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 115439 | 105171 (0.91624) | 9615 | 653 | 74090.32 | 73041.66 | 0.93 | 1048.66 | 98.585 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 19172 | 17499 (0.97962) | 364 | 1309 | 24723.96 | 24309.25 | 240.49 | 414.70 | 98.323 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 3842897 | 1578886 | 2245979 | 18032 | 810458.84 | 796436.61 | 286.38 | 14022.22 | 98.270 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 119931 | 54268 | 65370 | 293 | 2703758.84 | 2646007.70 | 24345.21 | 57751.14 | 97.864 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3962828 | 1633154 | 2311349 | 18325 | 3514217.68 | 3442444.31 | 24631.59 | 71773.36 | 97.958 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 71773.36956304 BTC (2.042%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3173.26177500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 68600.10778804 BTC (1.952%) Pending Liabilities: 3.19339789 BTC Final SD Profit: 68596.91439015 BTC (1.952%) Profit This Month: 753.98782253 BTC ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 12530694 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7281271 (58.1%) Blockchain MB: 5430.2 : SatoshiDice MB: 3000.7 (55.3%)
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April 03, 2013, 12:58:17 AM |
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Wow, if that luck keeps up for the rest of the month
It seems to be doing so. 750 BTC profit after 2 days. That clearly means we'll be up 11,250 BTC by the end of the month.
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organofcorti
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April 03, 2013, 01:37:23 AM |
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Wow, if that luck keeps up for the rest of the month
It seems to be doing so. 750 BTC profit after 2 days. That clearly means we'll be up 11,250 BTC by the end of the month. Any chance of a confidence interval for that figure?
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April 03, 2013, 01:43:17 AM |
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It seems to be doing so. 750 BTC profit after 2 days. That clearly means we'll be up 11,250 BTC by the end of the month. Any chance of a confidence interval for that figure? lol Out of curiosity, does anyone know over what period of time the profit is actually 1.9%? Is it 3 months? 9 months? a year? infinity? Obviously we have good months and bad months, but when we are talking about the moving profit average, over what window of time does it actually approach 1.9%?
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dooglus
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April 03, 2013, 01:52:59 AM |
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know over what period of time the profit is actually 1.9%? Is it 3 months? 9 months? a year? infinity? Obviously we have good months and bad months, but when we are talking about the moving profit average, over what window of time does it actually approach 1.9%?
Over the whole lifetime of the game so far the profit has been around 2.042% before you take transaction fees into account, and 1.952% after deducting transaction fees. It is mathematically 'supposed' to be 1.9% before subtracting transaction fees, so they're doing better than expected. I don't remember the details, but the house edge has been adjusted a couple of times. Not recently, mind you. I think the most recent adjustment was taking the edge down from 2.0% to 1.9% when a clone site appeared which was offering a lower house edge. It looked like Erik's way of saying "we can afford to out-compete you so don't even try". I think before that, the house edge may have been lower than 1.9%, but I really don't remember for sure. Your question is a little confusing. The site pays out 1.9% less than true odds. So in the long run you lose 1.9% of everything you bet. Every game is effectively random, so you can't say "the profit will be 1.9% over 3 months". You can't say for certain that the profit will ever go back down to 1.9% from its current level. All we can say is that the average of the results obtained from a large number of trials should be close to the expected value, and will tend to become closer as more trials are performed.
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April 03, 2013, 01:58:34 AM |
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Over the whole lifetime of the game so far the profit has been around 2.042% before you take transaction fees into account, and 1.952% after deducting transaction fees. It is mathematically 'supposed' to be 1.9% before subtracting transaction fees, so they're doing better than expected. I don't remember the details, but the house edge has been adjusted a couple of times. Not recently, mind you. I think the most recent adjustment was taking the edge down from 2.0% to 1.9% when a clone site appeared which was offering a lower house edge. It looked like Erik's way of saying "we can afford to out-compete you so don't even try". I think before that, the house edge may have been lower than 1.9%, but I really don't remember for sure. Your question is a little confusing. The site pays out 1.9% less than true odds. So in the long run you lose 1.9% of everything you bet. Every game is effectively random, so you can't say "the profit will be 1.9% over 3 months". You can't say for certain that the profit will ever go back down to 1.9% from its current level. All we can say is that the average of the results obtained from a large number of trials should be close to the expected value, and will tend to become closer as more trials are performed. Perhaps I should have asked instead, how many trials would it take to theoretically reach 1.9% with a 95% confidence interval?
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dooglus
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April 03, 2013, 03:35:52 AM |
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Perhaps I should have asked instead, how many trials would it take to theoretically reach 1.9% with a 95% confidence interval?
Well alright. Now I can say "I don't know" instead of "your question sucks" It's affected a lot by the big bets. The profit from thousands of small bets can be wiped out by a single lucky big bet (and vice versa).
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April 03, 2013, 04:16:24 AM |
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Perhaps I should have asked instead, how many trials would it take to theoretically reach 1.9% with a 95% confidence interval?
Well alright. Now I can say "I don't know" instead of "your question sucks" It's affected a lot by the big bets. The profit from thousands of small bets can be wiped out by a single lucky big bet (and vice versa). The question should have one more number. It should be phrased "95% chance that the house edge will be within 1.89-1.91%" or similarly. The size of the acceptable error there will greatly influence the result. And... I don't remember how to do a problem like that It's complicated by the fact that with 1 trial, there is a 0% chance that the house will take within 1.89 to 1.91 percent.
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organofcorti
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April 03, 2013, 05:33:17 AM |
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Perhaps I should have asked instead, how many trials would it take to theoretically reach 1.9% with a 95% confidence interval?
Well alright. Now I can say "I don't know" instead of "your question sucks" It's affected a lot by the big bets. The profit from thousands of small bets can be wiped out by a single lucky big bet (and vice versa). The question should have one more number. It should be phrased "95% chance that the house edge will be within 1.89-1.91%" or similarly. The size of the acceptable error there will greatly influence the result. And... I don't remember how to do a problem like that It's complicated by the fact that with 1 trial, there is a 0% chance that the house will take within 1.89 to 1.91 percent. I think it can be assessed using Markov chains. Meni Rosenfeld's analysis of PPS pool bankruptcy probabilities ( AoBPMRS, Appendix c) examines a similar problem and uses a Markov chain model. I haven't studied them, maybe someone else more familiar with Markov chains could do the analysis.
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April 03, 2013, 04:15:51 PM |
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Perhaps I should have asked instead, how many trials would it take to theoretically reach 1.9% with a 95% confidence interval?
Well alright. Now I can say "I don't know" instead of "your question sucks" It's affected a lot by the big bets. The profit from thousands of small bets can be wiped out by a single lucky big bet (and vice versa). The question should have one more number. It should be phrased "95% chance that the house edge will be within 1.89-1.91%" or similarly. The size of the acceptable error there will greatly influence the result. And... I don't remember how to do a problem like that It's complicated by the fact that with 1 trial, there is a 0% chance that the house will take within 1.89 to 1.91 percent. I think it can be assessed using Markov chains. Meni Rosenfeld's analysis of PPS pool bankruptcy probabilities ( AoBPMRS, Appendix c) examines a similar problem and uses a Markov chain model. I haven't studied them, maybe someone else more familiar with Markov chains could do the analysis. Markov chains are more useful when there's a relationship between the states of the system. In this case, it would be more like "losing 3 in a row changes your chances of winning the next one". Since we don't have that, you can use regular IID statistics. The way I wrote the script that dooglus is using right now, is taking advantage of the fact that for a sum of random variables, you can just add their expected values, and add their variances. Square-root the resulting variance ot get the standard-deviation. The result will be a mean and std-dev, which you can use to compute a 3-sigma bounding box (or 2-sigma, if you want 95% confidence). For binary systems like this (win or lose), you'd "normally" use different equations, but this construction is accurate as the number of trials gets large. SatoshiDice qualifies.
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