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April 17, 2013, 12:09:03 AM |
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Perfect, thanks. Daily report coming soon. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 17, 2013, 12:27:50 AM |
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Shot you an email.
Perfect, thanks. Daily report coming soon. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It looks like bets are still being processed: Total of 34 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Apr-16 05:26pm (up to block 231720)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 128265 | 3 (0.00002) | 126282 | 1980 | 1593.81 | 3842.45 | 148.53 | -2248.63 | 241.086 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 10382 | 0 (0.00000) | 9824 | 558 | 148.40 | 0.33 | 22.55 | 148.07 | 0.223 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 10343 | 2 (0.00020) | 9859 | 482 | 154.91 | 320.10 | 14.96 | -165.19 | 206.639 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 22672 | 5 (0.00023) | 22168 | 499 | 540.70 | 433.55 | 10.13 | 107.14 | 80.184 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 23074 | 4 (0.00018) | 22599 | 471 | 829.75 | 566.40 | 22.15 | 263.35 | 68.261 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 28308 | 13 (0.00047) | 27874 | 421 | 1590.71 | 1830.57 | 1.48 | -239.86 | 115.079 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 29481 | 35 (0.00121) | 28935 | 511 | 2125.03 | 1740.09 | 116.94 | 384.94 | 81.885 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 21455 | 39 (0.00186) | 20930 | 486 | 2399.25 | 1567.98 | 48.46 | 831.26 | 65.353 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 26644 | 116 (0.00442) | 26114 | 414 | 6018.63 | 8661.72 | 13.27 | -2643.09 | 143.915 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 38650 | 308 (0.00813) | 37591 | 751 | 8388.36 | 6943.92 | 10.19 | 1444.44 | 82.780 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 138950 | 2110 (0.01525) | 136244 | 596 | 42503.42 | 36904.01 | 2.37 | 5599.41 | 86.826 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 26130 | 596 (0.02314) | 25155 | 379 | 7983.48 | 8577.96 | 15.15 | -594.48 | 107.446 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 88903 | 2714 (0.03067) | 85777 | 412 | 43150.41 | 38554.09 | 9.41 | 4596.32 | 89.348 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 30862 | 1407 (0.04631) | 28972 | 483 | 9845.40 | 10652.06 | 25.39 | -806.65 | 108.193 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 36858 | 2257 (0.06192) | 34191 | 410 | 7751.56 | 7535.99 | 31.41 | 215.57 | 97.219 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 52452 | 4776 (0.09196) | 47161 | 515 | 16955.63 | 18496.68 | 7.53 | -1541.05 | 109.089 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 202998 | 24822 (0.12262) | 177601 | 575 | 99940.56 | 99358.75 | 100.72 | 581.81 | 99.418 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 114995 | 20989 (0.18352) | 93383 | 623 | 178869.22 | 180378.16 | 3315.17 | -1508.93 | 100.844 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 280990 | 68430 (0.24411) | 211894 | 666 | 376671.72 | 362975.59 | 2322.82 | 13696.13 | 96.364 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 274367 | 100593 (0.36751) | 173125 | 649 | 593129.71 | 584326.49 | 1013.47 | 8803.22 | 98.516 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1194117 | 581866 (0.48803) | 610409 | 1842 | 910318.57 | 892202.82 | 2925.65 | 18115.75 | 98.010 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 678462 | 338197 (0.49956) | 338796 | 1469 | 688182.20 | 671060.84 | 6522.53 | 17121.36 | 97.512 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 390075 | 286155 (0.73514) | 103097 | 823 | 309822.00 | 302396.88 | 6172.58 | 7425.12 | 97.603 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 88431 | 69726 (0.79416) | 18072 | 633 | 64967.41 | 63540.04 | 1187.94 | 1427.37 | 97.803 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 79982 | 67922 (0.85675) | 11357 | 703 | 82123.83 | 81330.52 | 401.00 | 793.30 | 99.034 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 127891 | 116464 (0.91617) | 10656 | 771 | 75977.21 | 74885.42 | 1.46 | 1091.78 | 98.563 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 21404 | 19464 (0.97903) | 417 | 1523 | 24960.13 | 24541.67 | 240.82 | 418.46 | 98.323 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 4045164 | 1654079 | 2371734 | 19351 | 828422.94 | 814106.53 | 298.01 | 14316.41 | 98.272 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 121977 | 54934 | 66749 | 294 | 2728519.23 | 2669518.67 | 24406.21 | 59000.55 | 97.838 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 4167141 | 1709013 | 2438483 | 19645 | 3556942.17 | 3483625.20 | 24704.22 | 73316.97 | 97.939 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 73316.97153889 BTC (2.061%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3387.94657500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 69929.02496389 BTC (1.966%) Pending Liabilities: 0.00000000 BTC Final SD Profit: 69929.02496389 BTC (1.966%) Profit This Month: 2086.09839627 BTC ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 13388152 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7635178 (57.0%) Blockchain MB: 5832.5 : SatoshiDice MB: 3150.8 (54.0%) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fb4yQbBe.png&t=665&c=goT2CkeXsvtwpw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnZJJbpn.png&t=665&c=V0whHHVFh9NYMw)
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April 17, 2013, 04:07:42 PM |
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April 17, 2013, 05:37:03 PM |
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Clever! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Total of 43 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Apr-17 01:42pm (up to block 231867)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 128752 | 3 (0.00002) | 126755 | 1994 | 1600.42 | 3842.48 | 150.77 | -2242.05 | 240.092 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 10409 | 0 (0.00000) | 9851 | 558 | 148.71 | 0.33 | 22.55 | 148.38 | 0.224 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 10557 | 2 (0.00020) | 10072 | 483 | 157.08 | 320.11 | 14.96 | -163.03 | 203.791 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 22724 | 5 (0.00022) | 22220 | 499 | 541.29 | 433.56 | 10.13 | 107.73 | 80.097 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 23115 | 4 (0.00018) | 22637 | 474 | 830.36 | 566.40 | 22.15 | 263.96 | 68.212 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 28330 | 13 (0.00047) | 27896 | 421 | 1590.95 | 1830.57 | 1.48 | -239.62 | 115.062 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 29517 | 35 (0.00121) | 28971 | 511 | 2125.46 | 1740.09 | 116.94 | 385.36 | 81.869 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 21503 | 39 (0.00186) | 20977 | 487 | 2399.78 | 1567.99 | 48.47 | 831.79 | 65.339 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 26685 | 116 (0.00442) | 26155 | 414 | 6027.00 | 8661.77 | 13.27 | -2634.77 | 143.716 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 38693 | 308 (0.00812) | 37632 | 753 | 8398.17 | 6943.97 | 10.20 | 1454.20 | 82.684 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 139255 | 2116 (0.01526) | 136542 | 597 | 42527.85 | 36907.97 | 2.37 | 5619.88 | 86.785 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 26177 | 596 (0.02310) | 25202 | 379 | 7984.38 | 8577.97 | 15.15 | -593.59 | 107.434 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 89115 | 2721 (0.03068) | 85982 | 412 | 43191.24 | 38556.69 | 9.41 | 4634.55 | 89.270 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 30920 | 1411 (0.04636) | 29026 | 483 | 9846.53 | 10653.98 | 25.39 | -807.44 | 108.200 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 36983 | 2263 (0.06188) | 34308 | 412 | 7759.54 | 7541.04 | 31.42 | 218.49 | 97.184 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 52558 | 4783 (0.09191) | 47256 | 519 | 16968.67 | 18508.79 | 7.55 | -1540.12 | 109.076 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 203185 | 24849 (0.12265) | 177754 | 582 | 100042.01 | 99372.87 | 100.74 | 669.13 | 99.331 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 115269 | 21040 (0.18352) | 93605 | 624 | 178948.66 | 180428.78 | 3315.17 | -1480.12 | 100.827 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 281818 | 68619 (0.24407) | 212527 | 672 | 377516.98 | 363281.90 | 2322.85 | 14235.08 | 96.229 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 275041 | 100845 (0.36753) | 173541 | 655 | 593177.78 | 584382.60 | 1013.49 | 8795.17 | 98.517 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1195771 | 582670 (0.48803) | 611255 | 1846 | 910817.13 | 892581.83 | 2925.68 | 18235.29 | 97.998 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 679528 | 338757 (0.49961) | 339292 | 1479 | 688515.79 | 671404.46 | 6522.56 | 17111.33 | 97.515 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 391095 | 286880 (0.73508) | 103389 | 826 | 309912.81 | 302477.90 | 6172.59 | 7434.91 | 97.601 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 88762 | 69986 (0.79419) | 18137 | 639 | 64999.09 | 63572.31 | 1187.96 | 1426.77 | 97.805 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 80220 | 68126 (0.85679) | 11387 | 707 | 82178.43 | 81384.70 | 401.02 | 793.73 | 99.034 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 128686 | 117182 (0.91618) | 10721 | 783 | 76041.52 | 74945.51 | 1.50 | 1096.01 | 98.559 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 21485 | 19528 (0.97909) | 417 | 1540 | 24968.85 | 24550.43 | 240.84 | 418.42 | 98.324 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 4054092 | 1657938 | 2376699 | 19455 | 829408.87 | 815103.72 | 300.53 | 14305.14 | 98.275 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 122061 | 54959 | 66808 | 294 | 2729807.73 | 2669933.39 | 24406.21 | 59874.34 | 97.807 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 4176153 | 1712897 | 2443507 | 19749 | 3559216.61 | 3485037.12 | 24706.74 | 74179.48 | 97.916 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 74179.48867404 BTC (2.084%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3397.37437500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 70782.11429904 BTC (1.989%) Pending Liabilities: -24.96170423 BTC Final SD Profit: 70807.07600327 BTC (1.989%) Profit This Month: 2964.14943565 BTC ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 13433023 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7651779 (57.0%) Blockchain MB: 5853.9 : SatoshiDice MB: 3157.8 (53.9%) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKhnQWoE.png&t=665&c=8l68d3EZaLEnpA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2sYdgLZ.png&t=665&c=cvA3_fkI9p3iJw)
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April 17, 2013, 08:45:04 PM |
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Looks like the big jump in profits was a result of this failed martingale sequence: Wed Apr 17 13:20:57 2013 <16000 231819 aea2e755efadde75:0 1EkXZZfMqYEXj5T689syiimvYN4PFfuEFJ BET 12.30000000 LOSE -12.23850000 Wed Apr 17 13:27:21 2013 <16000 231821 13613d32453bb1ae:1 14RazJ3oGtEyxKnvPGQQxHoHrRbDQqYvfg BET 18.40000000 LOSE -18.30800000 Wed Apr 17 13:37:15 2013 <16000 231822 1c36083d894585f2:1 1EkXZZfMqYEXj5T689syiimvYN4PFfuEFJ BET 27.60000000 LOSE -27.46200000 Wed Apr 17 14:03:11 2013 <16000 231823 308a46aafddb22a5:1 19mPxu3eUxqew7hYaPZrmUNf2GqiQkwLKv BET 41.50000000 LOSE -41.29250000 Wed Apr 17 14:14:16 2013 <16000 231824 93213ca4a91601b9:0 14RazJ3oGtEyxKnvPGQQxHoHrRbDQqYvfg BET 62.30000000 LOSE -61.98850000 Wed Apr 17 14:17:20 2013 <16000 231825 bc1e5665abd5305d:0 1DNvjHR4Ci9proKTu9b1AYKXpFYAnkzyV4 BET 93.50000000 LOSE -93.03250000 Wed Apr 17 14:33:09 2013 <16000 231826 cd4f6057b5f49767:0 14mhaw2xBn6wvnQxdnwtQuBT7cVvsKeKEV BET 140.30000000 LOSE -139.59850000 Wed Apr 17 14:47:30 2013 <16000 231827 9d21aede242797f2:1 1EkXZZfMqYEXj5T689syiimvYN4PFfuEFJ BET 210.50000000 LOSE -209.44750000
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April 17, 2013, 08:50:05 PM |
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If you have some US dollars and are considering investing in Apple stock, you don't take the price of oil into account (unless you're also considering investing in oil).
In the same way if you have Bitcoin and are considering investing in SDICE, you don't take the price of US dollars into account (unless you're also considering investing in fiat).
Apple is not denominated in oil, or it would have to be taken into account. If the Bitcoin economy holds $1,000,000,000 of wealth at 11,000,000 units, each bitcoin is worth about $91. Assuming SD is worth $10,000,000, that would make the business worth 110,000 bitcoins. If the exchange rate doubles, making the Bitcoin economy worth $2,000,000,000, but SD remains at the same absolute valuation, it should then be worth 55,000 bitcoins. SD has been estimated to be worth $100-200,000,000, which I think is appropriate. This means that at a current economy size of $1 billion, SD should be worth 10-20% of the entire stock of bitcoins, or 1.1-2.2mm BTC. Therefore, the share price should be about 3-6x higher than the 0.0033 level. Hypothetically. Of course, there are other factors, but that shows the USD relation due to both it and Bitcoin being concurrent measures and stores of value.
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April 18, 2013, 04:15:14 AM |
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Apple is not denominated in oil, or it would have to be taken into account.
That was kind of my point. Apple isn't denominated in oil, and SatoshiDice isn't denominated in dollars.
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Results: 2013-Apr-18 12:25pm (up to block 232018)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 129419 | 3 (0.00002) | 127410 | 2006 | 1610.75 | 3842.53 | 150.80 | -2231.77 | 238.554 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 10743 | 0 (0.00000) | 10184 | 559 | 152.14 | 0.35 | 22.55 | 151.79 | 0.230 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 10921 | 2 (0.00019) | 10433 | 486 | 160.82 | 320.13 | 14.96 | -159.31 | 199.059 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 22771 | 5 (0.00022) | 22263 | 503 | 542.00 | 433.56 | 10.14 | 108.43 | 79.993 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 23210 | 4 (0.00018) | 22732 | 474 | 831.78 | 566.41 | 22.15 | 265.36 | 68.096 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 28372 | 13 (0.00047) | 27937 | 422 | 1591.91 | 1830.58 | 1.48 | -238.67 | 114.993 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 29550 | 35 (0.00121) | 29004 | 511 | 2126.17 | 1740.09 | 116.94 | 386.07 | 81.842 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 21542 | 39 (0.00185) | 21014 | 489 | 2400.46 | 1567.99 | 48.47 | 832.47 | 65.320 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 26784 | 116 (0.00440) | 26254 | 414 | 6043.05 | 8661.85 | 13.27 | -2618.79 | 143.336 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 38787 | 309 (0.00812) | 37724 | 754 | 8412.76 | 6945.29 | 10.21 | 1467.47 | 82.557 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 139467 | 2120 (0.01527) | 136747 | 600 | 42609.34 | 36911.57 | 2.39 | 5697.77 | 86.628 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 26208 | 596 (0.02308) | 25230 | 382 | 7984.82 | 8577.97 | 15.16 | -593.15 | 107.428 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 89393 | 2732 (0.03070) | 86247 | 414 | 43328.21 | 38580.63 | 9.42 | 4747.57 | 89.043 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 30966 | 1415 (0.04642) | 29065 | 486 | 9848.18 | 10655.11 | 25.40 | -806.93 | 108.194 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 37324 | 2291 (0.06207) | 34621 | 412 | 7781.56 | 7573.64 | 31.42 | 207.91 | 97.328 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 52681 | 4793 (0.09189) | 47367 | 521 | 16986.15 | 18522.99 | 7.56 | -1536.83 | 109.048 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 203402 | 24879 (0.12267) | 177940 | 583 | 100314.35 | 99591.19 | 100.74 | 723.16 | 99.279 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 115645 | 21105 (0.18349) | 93916 | 624 | 179105.62 | 180678.32 | 3315.17 | -1572.70 | 100.878 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 283424 | 69007 (0.24407) | 213733 | 684 | 377727.99 | 363545.08 | 2322.87 | 14182.90 | 96.245 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 275935 | 101182 (0.36757) | 174090 | 663 | 593544.23 | 584807.34 | 1013.54 | 8736.88 | 98.528 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1197817 | 583716 (0.48807) | 612243 | 1858 | 911159.45 | 892958.92 | 2925.72 | 18200.53 | 98.002 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 680501 | 339249 (0.49963) | 339755 | 1497 | 688697.66 | 671604.61 | 6522.65 | 17093.05 | 97.518 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 391744 | 287343 (0.73506) | 103567 | 834 | 309956.74 | 302519.35 | 6172.63 | 7437.38 | 97.601 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 89046 | 70212 (0.79421) | 18193 | 641 | 65035.82 | 63598.40 | 1187.97 | 1437.41 | 97.790 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 80686 | 68524 (0.85685) | 11448 | 714 | 82272.11 | 81485.45 | 401.04 | 786.65 | 99.044 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 129211 | 117648 (0.91615) | 10768 | 795 | 76138.63 | 75039.26 | 1.55 | 1099.37 | 98.556 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 21604 | 19621 (0.97914) | 418 | 1565 | 24976.25 | 24557.84 | 240.91 | 418.40 | 98.325 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 4064925 | 1661947 | 2383381 | 19597 | 830381.91 | 816103.70 | 301.03 | 14278.21 | 98.281 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 122228 | 55012 | 66922 | 294 | 2730957.16 | 2671012.87 | 24406.21 | 59944.29 | 97.805 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 4187153 | 1716959 | 2450303 | 19891 | 3561339.07 | 3487116.57 | 24707.25 | 74222.50 | 97.916 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 74222.50174097 BTC (2.084%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3408.94037500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 70813.56136597 BTC (1.988%) Pending Liabilities: 0.00000000 BTC Final SD Profit: 70813.56136597 BTC (1.988%) Profit This Month: 2970.63479835 BTC ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 13479857 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7672350 (56.9%) Blockchain MB: 5874.7 : SatoshiDice MB: 3166.2 (53.9%) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqManMQ6.png&t=665&c=Yk0K_jtJIlGlNQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPRFxjBC.png&t=665&c=LyWIoVgsYl2JDQ)
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April 18, 2013, 08:08:43 PM |
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Apple is not denominated in oil, or it would have to be taken into account.
That was kind of my point. Apple isn't denominated in oil, and SatoshiDice isn't denominated in dollars. True, but bitcoins generally are denominated in another currency, and will be until the system is large and stable enough to act independently. Cross currency valuation acts like a fulcrum. Replace bitcoins with euros in calculations and the same situation arises.
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April 18, 2013, 08:13:30 PM |
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True, but bitcoins generally are denominated in another currency, and will be until the system is large and stable enough to act independently.
What we need is a USD-exchange, where you can buy USD denominated in Bitcoins rather than the other way around. "OMG! USD is crashing! It's dropped almost 50% today! Sell, sell, sell!".b
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April 19, 2013, 02:32:05 AM Last edit: April 19, 2013, 02:48:57 AM by Picklee |
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True, but bitcoins generally are denominated in another currency
No, no... That's like saying "USD are denominated in EUR". (And let's be frank, we all know that USD is really denominated in CNY!) APPL is denominated in USD. SD is denominated in BTC. You could buy oil with USD, but that doesn't mean that oil is also denominated in APPL.
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April 19, 2013, 08:36:43 AM |
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What is sd? SD is denominated in BTC.
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April 19, 2013, 08:41:18 AM |
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What is sd? SD is denominated in BTC.
SD is Satoshi Dice.
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April 19, 2013, 08:08:25 PM |
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No, no... That's like saying "USD are denominated in EUR". (And let's be frank, we all know that USD is really denominated in CNY!)
APPL is denominated in USD. SD is denominated in BTC.
You could buy oil with USD, but that doesn't mean that oil is also denominated in APPL.
Temperature is measured using several different metrics, mostly Fahrenheit, Celsius, and Kelvin. Likewise, wealth is measured by numerous yardsticks, primarily USD, EUR, JPY, etc. Bitcoins and dollars are simply different methods of measuring and tracking wealth. Imagine a sponge in a swimming pool. The sponge absorbs 1% of the water in the pool. Now replace the pool with a lake; the sponge might hold only 0.01% of that water. In the above example, the pool water is all the wealth in the Bitcoin system and the sponge is SD. The lake is the wealth in the USD economy. If Bitcoin and USD switch places, SD does not change - only its share of the overall economy does. So unless SD grows to maintain its proportion to the total amount of wealth in the system, the share price will decline relative to the metric - in our case, BTC. Ask yourself whether a gambling site can comprise 10% of the Bitcoin economy for years when there are so many businesses jumping into the system.
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April 20, 2013, 12:53:39 AM Last edit: April 20, 2013, 02:40:56 AM by TimJBenham |
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In the above example, the pool water is all the wealth in the Bitcoin system and the sponge is SD. The lake is the wealth in the USD economy. If Bitcoin and USD switch places, SD does not change - only its share of the overall economy does. So unless SD grows to maintain its proportion to the total amount of wealth in the system, the share price will decline relative to the metric - in our case, BTC.
Ask yourself whether a gambling site can comprise 10% of the Bitcoin economy for years when there are so many businesses jumping into the system.
A corollary of this is you shouldn't buy any bitcoin business shares. If bitcoin succeeds their BTC share price will almost certainly dive due to deflation. It might be soaring according to the USD yardstick, but you would have been better off just holding BTC. If bitcoin fails the shares will probably be worthless. Actually this isn't quite right; the bitcoin shares would be worth buying if their dividend rate makes up for the appreciation of the BTC, which probably means extraordinarily large.
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April 20, 2013, 01:53:05 AM |
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The 'pending liabilities' line is showing 0 BTC until I can gain access to the site again. I hear that the domain has been renewed now, but I can't yet see the site. Total of 196 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Apr-19 06:46pm (up to block 232179)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 130194 | 3 (0.00002) | 128171 | 2020 | 1623.18 | 3842.59 | 150.87 | -2219.41 | 236.732 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 11370 | 0 (0.00000) | 10809 | 561 | 158.40 | 0.38 | 22.57 | 158.02 | 0.241 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 11525 | 2 (0.00018) | 11036 | 487 | 166.94 | 320.16 | 14.97 | -153.22 | 191.784 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 23302 | 5 (0.00022) | 22788 | 509 | 558.54 | 433.64 | 10.14 | 124.89 | 77.639 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 23602 | 4 (0.00017) | 23122 | 476 | 848.26 | 566.49 | 22.16 | 281.76 | 66.783 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 28720 | 13 (0.00046) | 28283 | 424 | 1607.61 | 1830.66 | 1.48 | -223.04 | 113.874 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 29599 | 35 (0.00120) | 29052 | 512 | 2130.00 | 1740.11 | 116.95 | 389.88 | 81.695 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 21559 | 39 (0.00185) | 21030 | 490 | 2401.96 | 1568.00 | 48.47 | 833.96 | 65.280 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 26811 | 116 (0.00439) | 26280 | 415 | 6043.60 | 8661.85 | 13.28 | -2618.25 | 143.323 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 38843 | 309 (0.00811) | 37780 | 754 | 8422.84 | 6945.34 | 10.21 | 1477.50 | 82.458 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 140054 | 2136 (0.01532) | 137313 | 605 | 42621.43 | 36925.58 | 2.41 | 5695.85 | 86.636 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 26249 | 597 (0.02308) | 25269 | 383 | 7985.52 | 8578.40 | 15.16 | -592.88 | 107.424 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 90030 | 2746 (0.03064) | 86870 | 414 | 43352.30 | 38588.12 | 9.42 | 4764.18 | 89.011 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 31033 | 1418 (0.04642) | 29129 | 486 | 9850.62 | 10656.83 | 25.40 | -806.21 | 108.184 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 37757 | 2320 (0.06212) | 35025 | 412 | 7804.29 | 7594.47 | 31.42 | 209.82 | 97.311 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 52830 | 4807 (0.09190) | 47500 | 523 | 16993.76 | 18531.24 | 7.56 | -1537.48 | 109.047 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 203994 | 24951 (0.12267) | 178456 | 587 | 100409.49 | 99724.37 | 100.76 | 685.11 | 99.318 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 116436 | 21273 (0.18369) | 94539 | 624 | 179182.73 | 180778.09 | 3315.17 | -1595.36 | 100.890 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 284403 | 69214 (0.24396) | 214492 | 697 | 377975.39 | 363843.64 | 2322.89 | 14131.75 | 96.261 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 277122 | 101595 (0.36749) | 174860 | 667 | 593706.87 | 584996.43 | 1013.56 | 8710.44 | 98.533 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1200638 | 585098 (0.48808) | 613670 | 1870 | 911688.27 | 893508.87 | 2925.78 | 18179.40 | 98.006 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 682197 | 340096 (0.49964) | 340589 | 1512 | 689328.09 | 672215.84 | 6522.71 | 17112.24 | 97.518 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 393106 | 288344 (0.73508) | 103918 | 844 | 310110.16 | 302653.90 | 6172.69 | 7456.26 | 97.596 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 89377 | 70468 (0.79421) | 18259 | 650 | 65201.17 | 63662.64 | 1188.00 | 1538.53 | 97.640 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 80923 | 68729 (0.85691) | 11477 | 717 | 82528.67 | 81756.53 | 401.05 | 772.14 | 99.064 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 129955 | 118322 (0.91618) | 10825 | 808 | 76379.31 | 75260.41 | 1.60 | 1118.89 | 98.535 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 21749 | 19726 (0.97896) | 424 | 1599 | 24983.53 | 24564.60 | 240.95 | 418.93 | 98.323 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 4081046 | 1667299 | 2393995 | 19752 | 831910.47 | 817629.02 | 301.55 | 14281.45 | 98.283 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 122332 | 55067 | 66971 | 294 | 2732152.60 | 2672120.27 | 24406.21 | 60032.32 | 97.803 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 4203378 | 1722366 | 2460966 | 20046 | 3564063.07 | 3489749.29 | 24707.77 | 74313.78 | 97.915 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 74313.78015794 BTC (2.085%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3425.97257500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 70887.80758294 BTC (1.989%) Pending Liabilities: 0.00000000 BTC Final SD Profit: 70887.80758294 BTC (1.989%) Profit This Month: 3044.88101532 BTC ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 13553133 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7701306 (56.8%) Blockchain MB: 5908.3 : SatoshiDice MB: 3178.0 (53.8%) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuD2GXSw.png&t=665&c=9k4W9CWqa0lRFw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCNncxWw.png&t=665&c=ymyF5wOXs2YQ0Q)
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In the above example, the pool water is all the wealth in the Bitcoin system and the sponge is SD. The lake is the wealth in the USD economy. If Bitcoin and USD switch places, SD does not change - only its share of the overall economy does. So unless SD grows to maintain its proportion to the total amount of wealth in the system, the share price will decline relative to the metric - in our case, BTC.
Ask yourself whether a gambling site can comprise 10% of the Bitcoin economy for years when there are so many businesses jumping into the system.
A corollary of this is you shouldn't buy any bitcoin business shares. If bitcoin succeeds their BTC share price will almost certainly dive due to deflation. It might be soaring according to the USD yardstick, but you would have been better off just holding BTC. If bitcoin fails the shares will probably be worthless. Actually this isn't quite right; the bitcoin shares would be worth buying if their dividend rate makes up for the appreciation of the BTC, which probably means extraordinarily large. You are right. I thought sdice would be a good protection against collapsing btc value, but that was not the case as the sdice shares did not go up when btc dropped drasticly. So when btc goes to the moon, you are screwed with sdice (or any company) as it just doesn't go up and instead tanks in btc value. And when btc collapses, the sdice valuation also does not go up to compensate so your losing too. The only time sdice has outperformed btc was when btc prices were trending trending sideways or slowly up, as was the case from the last half year of 2012. Let's hope we get that again as I'd like to see sdice regain some of it's btc value.
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April 20, 2013, 03:27:18 PM |
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Part of the problem is the spectre of 87 million shares out there ready to be sold at any time. Back when there was a healthy buy/sell market, 3 million shares were sold by SD (not offered, sold onto the market). So who's to know when all selling opportunity evaporates since it is unknown publicly how SD will act. This is akin to the blockchain randomly awarding 100k bitcoins to the winner of a block, it screws with markets when all information isn't given beforehand, and it would make sense to just keep tiering up, ipo at .0032, .0034, .0037, price rose to like .006, so why not put up:
1 million at .01 1 million at .011 ... 1 million at .02
Now SD would have a plan to sell their next 10 million shares onto the market at a natural rate as long as they prove themselves, and they have always seemed pretty confident about what they are doing. It may have taken years but at least they didn't dry up the market. As it turned out, investors are stuck with their shares now, hoping their dividends are worth it.
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