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Author Topic: [ANN][CRW] CROWN (MN-PoS) | Platform | NFT framework | Governance | Masternodes  (Read 316951 times)
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November 06, 2016, 04:24:58 PM
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We need to find a balance between robot codes and human intuition, which robots will never have. Working on this within one of the goals of Crown Revolution. Its wrong when robots rule, but its neccessary to employ them to guard the good.

There are some clear examples where can we learn.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/07/what-caused-pound-flash-crash-brexit-fallen-sterling

It is interesting to see the coverage of things like this.  The vast majority of financial market activity is now algorithmic trading...  exact numbers across markets are a fiction, but believable numbers for the equity markets put it around 80% or more.  The fact of the matter is that any time continuous activity -- or where the time increments are faster than "human speed" will naturally be dominated over time by different "bots"with differing levels of autonomy, "intelligence" and learning capabilities.

The interesting thing about the coverage is that the problem is always in the interaction of the algorithms.  So when a new algorithm is released into the market or a unique set of conditions occurs, one doesn't know how the algorithms which are the market will interact -- just that they will interact at faster than human speed so that periodic flash crashes in markets will happen.  And it isn't a problem which can be really be solved without fundamentally changing the market structure, which makes the regulatory discussion interesting -- or any discussion which pretends to address "flash crashes" without addressing the inherent causes of continuous trading and faster than human speed algorithms.

The answer to this problem is just that algos that lose money will fade away...

One systemic question is what if any governance structure should exist for these machines -- and as they become more and more intelligent? What currencies will they use for their faster than human speed transactions.  Put differently -- when will the bots get "frustrated" with the current state of the global financial system? 

A key driver of change in the global financial system is likely to be from those inside the system seeking a more efficient platform for their bots to operate on.  This may be part of what is happening now with all the investment and interest in bitcoin/blockchain from the corporate world - but corporations seem to be very interested in private blockchains, which just makes me smile since it is an explicit implicit recognition of the lack of trust that people have for each other even within corporations.   

Just one of the factors to consider now as "machine learning" and "AI" become cloud services: 
 
[url]https://www.tensorflow.org/][http://alchemy.cs.washington.edu//url] 
[url]https://www.tensorflow.org/

https://aws.amazon.com/machine-learning/

There are probably a variety of services which it might make sense to see implemented in a distributed, decentralized, trustless, ownerless platform over time. 

Being able to do this sort of thing seems to be one of the goals at Crown, but that is many steps down the road.

Just putting the idea out there and connecting it up with a few other things.  If this sort of goal sounds interesting -- reach out to Chaositec or Stonehedge -- they are the ones with the technical plan.  I'm just an unfrozen caveman from a time before cell phones and intertubes and don't understand many of these modern things...


 
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November 07, 2016, 05:05:10 AM
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Are you guys going to pay me 0.03BTC for signature campaign yesterday already or what?

Believe it or not but I actually have a cat and she is hungry calling me out all the time and currently I have no cash in hand and need to buy her and my self food, so yeah I'd appreciate if I can get what I was suppose to get last night.
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November 07, 2016, 07:39:18 AM
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Are you guys going to pay me 0.03BTC for signature campaign yesterday already or what?

Believe it or not but I actually have a cat and she is hungry calling me out all the time and currently I have no cash in hand and need to buy her and my self food, so yeah I'd appreciate if I can get what I was suppose to get last night.

Sorry guy, im on it now

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November 07, 2016, 08:24:19 AM
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The bitcoin core update 0.13.1 looks interesting,

https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.13.1

70% more transactions allowed on the network (If everyone updates.)
Still doesn't compare to unlimited transactions like Chaositec's new blockchain idea.
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November 07, 2016, 09:00:58 AM
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Are you guys going to pay me 0.03BTC for signature campaign yesterday already or what?

Believe it or not but I actually have a cat and she is hungry calling me out all the time and currently I have no cash in hand and need to buy her and my self food, so yeah I'd appreciate if I can get what I was suppose to get last night.

Sorry guy, im on it now

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Thank you but one more transaction needed as I owed 0.03BTC but only received 0.015, I appreciate your time and money.
If you check the spread sheet you'll see in week 2 round 2 in the right section it says : 0.03 payment for 2 weeks.
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November 07, 2016, 09:04:31 AM
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Are you guys going to pay me 0.03BTC for signature campaign yesterday already or what?

Believe it or not but I actually have a cat and she is hungry calling me out all the time and currently I have no cash in hand and need to buy her and my self food, so yeah I'd appreciate if I can get what I was suppose to get last night.

Sorry guy, im on it now

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Thank you but one more transaction needed as I owed 0.03BTC but only received 0.015, I appreciate your time and money.
If you check the spread sheet you'll see in week 2 round 2 in the right section it says : 0.03 payment for 2 weeks.

It also says 25 posts per week, you only made 32 over two weeks.
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November 07, 2016, 09:47:34 AM
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Are you guys going to pay me 0.03BTC for signature campaign yesterday already or what?

Believe it or not but I actually have a cat and she is hungry calling me out all the time and currently I have no cash in hand and need to buy her and my self food, so yeah I'd appreciate if I can get what I was suppose to get last night.

Sorry guy, im on it now

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Thank you but one more transaction needed as I owed 0.03BTC but only received 0.015, I appreciate your time and money.
If you check the spread sheet you'll see in week 2 round 2 in the right section it says : 0.03 payment for 2 weeks.

It also says 25 posts per week, you only made 32 over two weeks.
I'm not ungrateful but if you check the spread sheet there is no place stating such thing as I posted 32 times during 2 weeks, I did 32 posts this week only which 5 were denied and 27 accepted and week before that I made 40 posts which 15 were denied and 25 accepted and as the campaign manager already set up the numbers for you to pay you can see that in round 2 week 2 in the sheet it says 0.03 under "total payment".

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YidshN4-xIVqy3s0rDmPXuTfsOV94SQCDi-L8K60PAc/edit#gid=1588627640
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November 07, 2016, 10:19:08 AM
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November 07, 2016, 10:24:00 AM
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Are you guys going to pay me 0.03BTC for signature campaign yesterday already or what?

Believe it or not but I actually have a cat and she is hungry calling me out all the time and currently I have no cash in hand and need to buy her and my self food, so yeah I'd appreciate if I can get what I was suppose to get last night.

Sorry guy, im on it now

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Thank you but one more transaction needed as I owed 0.03BTC but only received 0.015, I appreciate your time and money.
If you check the spread sheet you'll see in week 2 round 2 in the right section it says : 0.03 payment for 2 weeks.

It also says 25 posts per week, you only made 32 over two weeks.
I'm not ungrateful but if you check the spread sheet there is no place stating such thing as I posted 32 times during 2 weeks, I did 32 posts this week only which 5 were denied and 27 accepted and week before that I made 40 posts which 15 were denied and 25 accepted and as the campaign manager already set up the numbers for you to pay you can see that in round 2 week 2 in the sheet it says 0.03 under "total payment".

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YidshN4-xIVqy3s0rDmPXuTfsOV94SQCDi-L8K60PAc/edit#gid=1588627640

The terms are weekly. Payment is 2 weekly.

The campaign has been running 4 weeks now.

After week two you was paid. After week two you had 1003 posts. Two weeks later (yesterday) you had 1035 - 5 for denied posts. So 27 posts total over two weeks.

The rules clearly say 25 posts (this is weekly). The only thing that is two weekly is payment.
You need to make 50 posts over two weeks to get 0.03 btc worth of CRW.
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November 07, 2016, 10:28:33 AM
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Are you guys going to pay me 0.03BTC for signature campaign yesterday already or what?

Believe it or not but I actually have a cat and she is hungry calling me out all the time and currently I have no cash in hand and need to buy her and my self food, so yeah I'd appreciate if I can get what I was suppose to get last night.

Sorry guy, im on it now

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Thank you but one more transaction needed as I owed 0.03BTC but only received 0.015, I appreciate your time and money.
If you check the spread sheet you'll see in week 2 round 2 in the right section it says : 0.03 payment for 2 weeks.

It also says 25 posts per week, you only made 32 over two weeks.
I'm not ungrateful but if you check the spread sheet there is no place stating such thing as I posted 32 times during 2 weeks, I did 32 posts this week only which 5 were denied and 27 accepted and week before that I made 40 posts which 15 were denied and 25 accepted and as the campaign manager already set up the numbers for you to pay you can see that in round 2 week 2 in the sheet it says 0.03 under "total payment".

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YidshN4-xIVqy3s0rDmPXuTfsOV94SQCDi-L8K60PAc/edit#gid=1588627640

The terms are weekly. Payment is 2 weekly.

The campaign has been running 4 weeks now.

After week two you was paid. After week two you had 1003 posts. Two weeks later (yesterday) you had 1035 - 5 for denied posts. So 27 posts total over two weeks.

The rules clearly say 25 posts (this is weekly). The only thing that is two weekly is payment.
You need to make 50 posts over two weeks to get 0.03 btc worth of CRW.
No sorry but you are thinking that I got paid but I haven't as you can check my payment address to see if it has received any coins prior to the one you sent me today with the value of 0.015.

I joined the campaign on 21st October with the post count of 952, I'd say more than 50 for 2 weeks, I even posted 11 times the first week I joined but the week ended and couldn't finish the rest but from 24th October until now I already posted nearly 70 times for 2 weeks.
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November 07, 2016, 10:34:32 AM
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Are you guys going to pay me 0.03BTC for signature campaign yesterday already or what?

Believe it or not but I actually have a cat and she is hungry calling me out all the time and currently I have no cash in hand and need to buy her and my self food, so yeah I'd appreciate if I can get what I was suppose to get last night.

Sorry guy, im on it now

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Thank you but one more transaction needed as I owed 0.03BTC but only received 0.015, I appreciate your time and money.
If you check the spread sheet you'll see in week 2 round 2 in the right section it says : 0.03 payment for 2 weeks.

It also says 25 posts per week, you only made 32 over two weeks.
I'm not ungrateful but if you check the spread sheet there is no place stating such thing as I posted 32 times during 2 weeks, I did 32 posts this week only which 5 were denied and 27 accepted and week before that I made 40 posts which 15 were denied and 25 accepted and as the campaign manager already set up the numbers for you to pay you can see that in round 2 week 2 in the sheet it says 0.03 under "total payment".

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YidshN4-xIVqy3s0rDmPXuTfsOV94SQCDi-L8K60PAc/edit#gid=1588627640

The terms are weekly. Payment is 2 weekly.

The campaign has been running 4 weeks now.

After week two you was paid. After week two you had 1003 posts. Two weeks later (yesterday) you had 1035 - 5 for denied posts. So 27 posts total over two weeks.

The rules clearly say 25 posts (this is weekly). The only thing that is two weekly is payment.
You need to make 50 posts over two weeks to get 0.03 btc worth of CRW.
No sorry but you are thinking that I got paid but I haven't as you can check my payment address to see if it has received any coins prior to the one you sent me today with the value of 0.015.

I joined the campaign on 21st October with the post count of 952, I'd say more than 50 for 2 weeks, I even posted 11 times the first week I joined but the week ended and couldn't finish the rest but from 24th October until now I already posted nearly 70 times for 2 weeks.

Ok i see the problem now!

Will send the rest out asap
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November 07, 2016, 10:39:32 AM
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Also there are some cheap CRW in yobit but sadly their wallet is in maintenance Sad.
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November 07, 2016, 11:04:53 AM
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Also there are some cheap CRW in yobit but sadly their wallet is in maintenance Sad.

I'm still on their case. Send yet another message to them to update.

I only just found this but if you want yobit to update, they charge BTC for urgent updates lol
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November 07, 2016, 11:20:57 AM
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Also there are some cheap CRW in yobit but sadly their wallet is in maintenance Sad.

I'm still on their case. Send yet another message to them to update.

I only just found this but if you want yobit to update, they charge BTC for urgent updates lol

Yobit are a waste of space. They constantly put wallets of coins not owned/backed by themselves in "maintanance" (whatever the f*ck that means) while their bots do their thing, charging people to put them back online - only to do the same thing again after a couple of weeks.

Basically, it's a scam exchange.

PIA went evil: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203968.msg53160131#msg53160131 Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi/Gate.io/Changelly/Freewallet.org/crex24 scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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November 07, 2016, 12:26:16 PM
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Also there are some cheap CRW in yobit but sadly their wallet is in maintenance Sad.

I'm still on their case. Send yet another message to them to update.

I only just found this but if you want yobit to update, they charge BTC for urgent updates lol

Yobit are a waste of space. They constantly put wallets of coins not owned/backed by themselves in "maintanance" (whatever the f*ck that means) while their bots do their thing, charging people to put them back online - only to do the same thing again after a couple of weeks.

Basically, it's a scam exchange.

I agree.

The message i got back from them was

"The solution to this cryptocurrency will take some time, need to update the wallet.
We apologize for any inconvenience."

The solution? You mean a basic update? What a joke.
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November 07, 2016, 02:17:18 PM
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Well, C-cex is currently down so we don't have a live exchange!

Bittrex seem to be holding out for us to pay them 3 BTC to be listed imo.  Not going to happen.

It pisses me off to see some of the shit coins listed on Bittrex that never seem to be delisted despite low volumes. I understand they have bills to pay and paying customers help with that but it would be nice if they supported some genuine projects too without asking for 3 BTC.
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November 07, 2016, 03:03:21 PM
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Well, C-cex is currently down so we don't have a live exchange!

Bittrex seem to be holding out for us to pay them 3 BTC to be listed imo.  Not going to happen.

It pisses me off to see some of the shit coins listed on Bittrex that never seem to be delisted despite low volumes. I understand they have bills to pay and paying customers help with that but it would be nice if they supported some genuine projects too without asking for 3 BTC.

Absolutely, just so many P&D scam coins every single day with devs willing to pay 3 BTC out of their prior scam coins loot stash.
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November 07, 2016, 03:17:04 PM
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To all holders on yobit..

I have put a few buy walls up for whom ever to dump into...

My buys are under market average because theres a risk yobit may not update.

Dump if you like Tongue
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November 08, 2016, 11:42:25 AM
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How much does poloniex charge to list a coin? I bet the price of CRW will rise faster if it were on Poloniex.
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November 08, 2016, 11:58:38 AM
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How much does poloniex charge to list a coin? I bet the price of CRW will rise faster if it were on Poloniex.

No idea how much they charge, be great if you could find out  Wink

Anyways I have submitted the form to add Crown there. It be great if more people could do it today.

Also tweeted out to poloniex to add Crown

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