Why do islam hates people?

[Netpyder]

The Muslims are searching the Bible for evidence that it talks about Muslims somewhere. Otherwise they would have replied long ago to my post, two posts above this one. This is a difficult one for them. The Bible is quite large.

Just to help them out, they can find different translations of it here https://www.biblegateway.com/. The Old Testament is for the Jews (and Christians). The New Testament is for the Christians (but not the Jews).

sorry but i have been left a negative feedback without dealing with the person and he is not replying to my comment why he left me such a harsh feedback. i want to clear my reputation, been searching how to do it but could not find anyway to.. even pm'd the person, hopeless he is just not replying..


anyways back to the topic :

i did not look at the post. but since you are going on that road, let me post these :

The Prophet who will come from the "EAST". The Bible defined "EAST" to mean Arabia, and the lands of Kedar and Teman (Saudi Arabia today).
The Prophet who will come from "Arabia".
The Prophet who will come from the lands and "tents of Kedar" and "lands of Teman".  Kedar and Teman (also called "Tema" in the Bible) are two of Ishmael's sons: Genesis 25:13-15.
The Prophet who will "crush the idols of the deserts of Kedar".
The Prophet who will "fight the idol worshipers" in the deserts of Kedar.
The people of Kedar will Glorify GOD Almighty, and GOD will Glorify His Holy Temple "in Kedar".
"Arabia will rejoice and blossom".
The Prophet who will come from the "Desert". Again, the Bible also defined the "Desert" to mean the lands of Arabia, Kedar and Teman.
The Prophet of the "New Law" & "New Covenant", whom the Jews "must not fear".
The Prophet who is "like Moses".  Both Muhammad and Moses brought new Laws.  There is the Law of Moses, which the entire Bible is built on, and there is the Law of the Holy Quran, which Islam is built on.
Also in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to have said this to the Jews: "So [For this reason; Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to people [a nation] who do the things God wants in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]." (Matthew 21:43).  Jesus Christ here spoke about foreign people; non-Jews.  Jesus was a Jew and was speaking with Jews.  Read more...
  
-  By the way, the "Kingdom of God" here means THE COVENANT & RELIGION OF GOD on earth to the new nation.
  
-  John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
-  John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.
      

reference : http://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

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Genesis 49:10[edit]
The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor a lawgiver from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes; And to Him shall be the obedience of the people.

—Genesis 49:10

Deuteronomy 18:18[edit]
18 I will raise up for them a prophet (Prophet) from among their brethren like you, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not hearken to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.

—Deuteronomy 18:18-20

Deuteronomy 33:2[edit]

Jabal An-Nur (literally means: the Mount of Light) in Mecca. It was on this mountain that Muhammad received the first revelation of the Qur'an; which is Verse 96:1: "Read: In the Name of your Lord who created".
"He said,

“The Lord came from Sinai and dawned from Seir upon us;

he shone forth from Mount Paran; he came from the ten thousand of holy ones, with flaming fire at his right hand."
—Deuteronomy 33:2


Psalm 110[edit]
A Psalm of David. The LORD said to my lord: "Sit at My right, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

—Psalm 110:1

and more and more ,

source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_the_Bible

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 The Awaited Prophet will be from the Brethren of the Jews

The verse in discussion is explicit in saying that the prophet will come amongst the Brethren of the Jews.  Abraham had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac.  The Jews are the descendants of Isaac’s son, Jacob.  The Arabs are the children of Ishmael.  Thus, the Arabs are the brethren of the Jewish nation.[3] The Bible affirms:

‘And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 16:12)

‘And he (Ishmael) died in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 25:18)

The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites.  Likewise, Muhammad is from among the brethren of the Israelites, because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham.

   God Will Put His Words in the Mouth of the Awaited Prophet

The Quran says of Muhammad:

"Neither does he speak out of his own desire: that [which he conveys to you] is but [a divine] inspiration with which he is being inspired." (Quran 53:3-4)

This is quite similar to the verse in Deuteronomy 18:18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him" (Deuteronomy 18:18)

The Prophet Muhammad came with a message to the whole world, and from them, the Jews.  All, including the Jews, must accept his prophethood, and this is supported by the following words:

"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken." (Deuteronomy 18:15)


and more and more

source : http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/199/


have the decency to read the quotes and check the link, if you dont trust the link, go find the book reference (not talking about the Qura'an) but genesis, isa'ah and other testaments old or new

hope this answers your question.  

The whole New Testament in the Bible is all about Jesus. Not sure about this? Read it.

The miracles Jesus did attest to the fact that He is God.

The witness both of the Father and of the Holy Spirit show that He is God.

The Old Testament talks about Him. He said so. The Bible is about Jesus.

What is important about Jesus? It is that...

He came in the form of a man, while at the same time He was God. This happened by the Holy Spirit causing Mary to be with child, so that Jesus had no earthly father.

He lived a completely righteous life, making no mistakes.

He taught the Word of God, the Old Testament, explaining it clearly to the people.

Again, the miracles, done among the people.

Prophesies that came true, especially the one about the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem.

According to the plan that He and His Father set in place, Jesus took the punishment for all the mistakes that all the people of the world made over all time. He did it mostly at the time that He suffered on the cross and several hours before.

He died... after the punishment was complete.

He arose from the dead 3 days later.

Forty days after that, He ascended into Heaven in the sight of His disciples, being hidden by a cloud as he arose into the air.

This was all done so that people could have their mistakes forgiven, and could be saved by God because of it.

It is written right in the New Testament. In a more or less hidden way, it is written in the Old Testament, as well. Jesus is the one that Moses referred to in the Deuteronomy 18:18 area.

The fact that the Islamic prophet doesn't express these things about Jesus, shows that he is a fraud, and that all the things that are written in the Quaran and Hadith are fraudulent. And they are more fraudulent when they attempt to be part of the Bible without expressing these things about Jesus that are so plainly written there. And they are exceptionally fraudulent when they try to replace Jesus with the prophet, himself.

You are badly mistaken. However, I can accept that you believe your mistakes are truth even though they are not.

have you read the full chapter??
we muslims are more christians than you christians - zakir naik

Which full chapter?   

ill do it your way. all your lines, taken where? provide reference like i did. i know where they are but want you to point it out, the i will post the full quote and we shall see why you did not take the full quote and only the line you cherrypicked

[pozmu]

It's not that they hate people...
It's a fight for the world domination.
We - Europe/ Christianity used to do the same before:

[BADecker]

The Muslims are searching the Bible for evidence that it talks about Muslims somewhere. Otherwise they would have replied long ago to my post, two posts above this one. This is a difficult one for them. The Bible is quite large.

Just to help them out, they can find different translations of it here https://www.biblegateway.com/. The Old Testament is for the Jews (and Christians). The New Testament is for the Christians (but not the Jews).

sorry but i have been left a negative feedback without dealing with the person and he is not replying to my comment why he left me such a harsh feedback. i want to clear my reputation, been searching how to do it but could not find anyway to.. even pm'd the person, hopeless he is just not replying..


anyways back to the topic :

i did not look at the post. but since you are going on that road, let me post these :

The Prophet who will come from the "EAST". The Bible defined "EAST" to mean Arabia, and the lands of Kedar and Teman (Saudi Arabia today).
The Prophet who will come from "Arabia".
The Prophet who will come from the lands and "tents of Kedar" and "lands of Teman".  Kedar and Teman (also called "Tema" in the Bible) are two of Ishmael's sons: Genesis 25:13-15.
The Prophet who will "crush the idols of the deserts of Kedar".
The Prophet who will "fight the idol worshipers" in the deserts of Kedar.
The people of Kedar will Glorify GOD Almighty, and GOD will Glorify His Holy Temple "in Kedar".
"Arabia will rejoice and blossom".
The Prophet who will come from the "Desert". Again, the Bible also defined the "Desert" to mean the lands of Arabia, Kedar and Teman.
The Prophet of the "New Law" & "New Covenant", whom the Jews "must not fear".
The Prophet who is "like Moses".  Both Muhammad and Moses brought new Laws.  There is the Law of Moses, which the entire Bible is built on, and there is the Law of the Holy Quran, which Islam is built on.
Also in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to have said this to the Jews: "So [For this reason; Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to people [a nation] who do the things God wants in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]." (Matthew 21:43).  Jesus Christ here spoke about foreign people; non-Jews.  Jesus was a Jew and was speaking with Jews.  Read more...
  
-  By the way, the "Kingdom of God" here means THE COVENANT & RELIGION OF GOD on earth to the new nation.
  
-  John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
-  John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.
      

reference : http://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

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Genesis 49:10[edit]
The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor a lawgiver from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes; And to Him shall be the obedience of the people.

—Genesis 49:10

Deuteronomy 18:18[edit]
18 I will raise up for them a prophet (Prophet) from among their brethren like you, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not hearken to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.

—Deuteronomy 18:18-20

Deuteronomy 33:2[edit]

Jabal An-Nur (literally means: the Mount of Light) in Mecca. It was on this mountain that Muhammad received the first revelation of the Qur'an; which is Verse 96:1: "Read: In the Name of your Lord who created".
"He said,

“The Lord came from Sinai and dawned from Seir upon us;

he shone forth from Mount Paran; he came from the ten thousand of holy ones, with flaming fire at his right hand."
—Deuteronomy 33:2


Psalm 110[edit]
A Psalm of David. The LORD said to my lord: "Sit at My right, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

—Psalm 110:1

and more and more ,

source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_the_Bible

--------------------

 The Awaited Prophet will be from the Brethren of the Jews

The verse in discussion is explicit in saying that the prophet will come amongst the Brethren of the Jews.  Abraham had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac.  The Jews are the descendants of Isaac’s son, Jacob.  The Arabs are the children of Ishmael.  Thus, the Arabs are the brethren of the Jewish nation.[3] The Bible affirms:

‘And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 16:12)

‘And he (Ishmael) died in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 25:18)

The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites.  Likewise, Muhammad is from among the brethren of the Israelites, because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham.

   God Will Put His Words in the Mouth of the Awaited Prophet

The Quran says of Muhammad:

"Neither does he speak out of his own desire: that [which he conveys to you] is but [a divine] inspiration with which he is being inspired." (Quran 53:3-4)

This is quite similar to the verse in Deuteronomy 18:18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him" (Deuteronomy 18:18)

The Prophet Muhammad came with a message to the whole world, and from them, the Jews.  All, including the Jews, must accept his prophethood, and this is supported by the following words:

"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken." (Deuteronomy 18:15)


and more and more

source : http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/199/


have the decency to read the quotes and check the link, if you dont trust the link, go find the book reference (not talking about the Qura'an) but genesis, isa'ah and other testaments old or new

hope this answers your question.  

The whole New Testament in the Bible is all about Jesus. Not sure about this? Read it.

The miracles Jesus did attest to the fact that He is God.

The witness both of the Father and of the Holy Spirit show that He is God.

The Old Testament talks about Him. He said so. The Bible is about Jesus.

What is important about Jesus? It is that...

He came in the form of a man, while at the same time He was God. This happened by the Holy Spirit causing Mary to be with child, so that Jesus had no earthly father.

He lived a completely righteous life, making no mistakes.

He taught the Word of God, the Old Testament, explaining it clearly to the people.

Again, the miracles, done among the people.

Prophesies that came true, especially the one about the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem.

According to the plan that He and His Father set in place, Jesus took the punishment for all the mistakes that all the people of the world made over all time. He did it mostly at the time that He suffered on the cross and several hours before.

He died... after the punishment was complete.

He arose from the dead 3 days later.

Forty days after that, He ascended into Heaven in the sight of His disciples, being hidden by a cloud as he arose into the air.

This was all done so that people could have their mistakes forgiven, and could be saved by God because of it.

It is written right in the New Testament. In a more or less hidden way, it is written in the Old Testament, as well. Jesus is the one that Moses referred to in the Deuteronomy 18:18 area.

The fact that the Islamic prophet doesn't express these things about Jesus, shows that he is a fraud, and that all the things that are written in the Quaran and Hadith are fraudulent. And they are more fraudulent when they attempt to be part of the Bible without expressing these things about Jesus that are so plainly written there. And they are exceptionally fraudulent when they try to replace Jesus with the prophet, himself.

You are badly mistaken. However, I can accept that you believe your mistakes are truth even though they are not.

have you read the full chapter??
we muslims are more christians than you christians - zakir naik

Which full chapter?   

ill do it your way. all your lines, taken where? provide reference like i did. i know where they are but want you to point it out, the i will post the full quote and we shall see why you did not take the full quote and only the line you cherrypicked

Not going to do this. Why not? Because the New Testament is full of things that state all the things that I say. I would have to write the whole New Testament.

See. http://www.godhatesislam.com/faq.html.

[Netpyder]

The Muslims are searching the Bible for evidence that it talks about Muslims somewhere. Otherwise they would have replied long ago to my post, two posts above this one. This is a difficult one for them. The Bible is quite large.

Just to help them out, they can find different translations of it here https://www.biblegateway.com/. The Old Testament is for the Jews (and Christians). The New Testament is for the Christians (but not the Jews).

sorry but i have been left a negative feedback without dealing with the person and he is not replying to my comment why he left me such a harsh feedback. i want to clear my reputation, been searching how to do it but could not find anyway to.. even pm'd the person, hopeless he is just not replying..


anyways back to the topic :

i did not look at the post. but since you are going on that road, let me post these :

The Prophet who will come from the "EAST". The Bible defined "EAST" to mean Arabia, and the lands of Kedar and Teman (Saudi Arabia today).
The Prophet who will come from "Arabia".
The Prophet who will come from the lands and "tents of Kedar" and "lands of Teman".  Kedar and Teman (also called "Tema" in the Bible) are two of Ishmael's sons: Genesis 25:13-15.
The Prophet who will "crush the idols of the deserts of Kedar".
The Prophet who will "fight the idol worshipers" in the deserts of Kedar.
The people of Kedar will Glorify GOD Almighty, and GOD will Glorify His Holy Temple "in Kedar".
"Arabia will rejoice and blossom".
The Prophet who will come from the "Desert". Again, the Bible also defined the "Desert" to mean the lands of Arabia, Kedar and Teman.
The Prophet of the "New Law" & "New Covenant", whom the Jews "must not fear".
The Prophet who is "like Moses".  Both Muhammad and Moses brought new Laws.  There is the Law of Moses, which the entire Bible is built on, and there is the Law of the Holy Quran, which Islam is built on.
Also in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to have said this to the Jews: "So [For this reason; Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to people [a nation] who do the things God wants in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]." (Matthew 21:43).  Jesus Christ here spoke about foreign people; non-Jews.  Jesus was a Jew and was speaking with Jews.  Read more...
  
-  By the way, the "Kingdom of God" here means THE COVENANT & RELIGION OF GOD on earth to the new nation.
  
-  John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
-  John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.
      

reference : http://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

-----------------

Genesis 49:10[edit]
The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor a lawgiver from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes; And to Him shall be the obedience of the people.

—Genesis 49:10

Deuteronomy 18:18[edit]
18 I will raise up for them a prophet (Prophet) from among their brethren like you, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not hearken to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.

—Deuteronomy 18:18-20

Deuteronomy 33:2[edit]

Jabal An-Nur (literally means: the Mount of Light) in Mecca. It was on this mountain that Muhammad received the first revelation of the Qur'an; which is Verse 96:1: "Read: In the Name of your Lord who created".
"He said,

“The Lord came from Sinai and dawned from Seir upon us;

he shone forth from Mount Paran; he came from the ten thousand of holy ones, with flaming fire at his right hand."
—Deuteronomy 33:2


Psalm 110[edit]
A Psalm of David. The LORD said to my lord: "Sit at My right, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

—Psalm 110:1

and more and more ,

source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_the_Bible

--------------------

 The Awaited Prophet will be from the Brethren of the Jews

The verse in discussion is explicit in saying that the prophet will come amongst the Brethren of the Jews.  Abraham had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac.  The Jews are the descendants of Isaac’s son, Jacob.  The Arabs are the children of Ishmael.  Thus, the Arabs are the brethren of the Jewish nation.[3] The Bible affirms:

‘And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 16:12)

‘And he (Ishmael) died in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 25:18)

The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites.  Likewise, Muhammad is from among the brethren of the Israelites, because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham.

   God Will Put His Words in the Mouth of the Awaited Prophet

The Quran says of Muhammad:

"Neither does he speak out of his own desire: that [which he conveys to you] is but [a divine] inspiration with which he is being inspired." (Quran 53:3-4)

This is quite similar to the verse in Deuteronomy 18:18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him" (Deuteronomy 18:18)

The Prophet Muhammad came with a message to the whole world, and from them, the Jews.  All, including the Jews, must accept his prophethood, and this is supported by the following words:

"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken." (Deuteronomy 18:15)


and more and more

source : http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/199/


have the decency to read the quotes and check the link, if you dont trust the link, go find the book reference (not talking about the Qura'an) but genesis, isa'ah and other testaments old or new

hope this answers your question.  

The whole New Testament in the Bible is all about Jesus. Not sure about this? Read it.

The miracles Jesus did attest to the fact that He is God.

The witness both of the Father and of the Holy Spirit show that He is God.

The Old Testament talks about Him. He said so. The Bible is about Jesus.

What is important about Jesus? It is that...

He came in the form of a man, while at the same time He was God. This happened by the Holy Spirit causing Mary to be with child, so that Jesus had no earthly father.

He lived a completely righteous life, making no mistakes.

He taught the Word of God, the Old Testament, explaining it clearly to the people.

Again, the miracles, done among the people.

Prophesies that came true, especially the one about the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem.

According to the plan that He and His Father set in place, Jesus took the punishment for all the mistakes that all the people of the world made over all time. He did it mostly at the time that He suffered on the cross and several hours before.

He died... after the punishment was complete.

He arose from the dead 3 days later.

Forty days after that, He ascended into Heaven in the sight of His disciples, being hidden by a cloud as he arose into the air.

This was all done so that people could have their mistakes forgiven, and could be saved by God because of it.

It is written right in the New Testament. In a more or less hidden way, it is written in the Old Testament, as well. Jesus is the one that Moses referred to in the Deuteronomy 18:18 area.

The fact that the Islamic prophet doesn't express these things about Jesus, shows that he is a fraud, and that all the things that are written in the Quaran and Hadith are fraudulent. And they are more fraudulent when they attempt to be part of the Bible without expressing these things about Jesus that are so plainly written there. And they are exceptionally fraudulent when they try to replace Jesus with the prophet, himself.

You are badly mistaken. However, I can accept that you believe your mistakes are truth even though they are not.

have you read the full chapter??
we muslims are more christians than you christians - zakir naik

Which full chapter?   

ill do it your way. all your lines, taken where? provide reference like i did. i know where they are but want you to point it out, the i will post the full quote and we shall see why you did not take the full quote and only the line you cherrypicked

Not going to do this. Why not? Because the New Testament is full of things that state all the things that I say. I would have to write the whole New Testament.

See. http://www.godhatesislam.com/faq.html.

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[BADecker]

The Muslims are searching the Bible for evidence that it talks about Muslims somewhere. Otherwise they would have replied long ago to my post, two posts above this one. This is a difficult one for them. The Bible is quite large.

Just to help them out, they can find different translations of it here https://www.biblegateway.com/. The Old Testament is for the Jews (and Christians). The New Testament is for the Christians (but not the Jews).

sorry but i have been left a negative feedback without dealing with the person and he is not replying to my comment why he left me such a harsh feedback. i want to clear my reputation, been searching how to do it but could not find anyway to.. even pm'd the person, hopeless he is just not replying..


anyways back to the topic :

i did not look at the post. but since you are going on that road, let me post these :

The Prophet who will come from the "EAST". The Bible defined "EAST" to mean Arabia, and the lands of Kedar and Teman (Saudi Arabia today).
The Prophet who will come from "Arabia".
The Prophet who will come from the lands and "tents of Kedar" and "lands of Teman".  Kedar and Teman (also called "Tema" in the Bible) are two of Ishmael's sons: Genesis 25:13-15.
The Prophet who will "crush the idols of the deserts of Kedar".
The Prophet who will "fight the idol worshipers" in the deserts of Kedar.
The people of Kedar will Glorify GOD Almighty, and GOD will Glorify His Holy Temple "in Kedar".
"Arabia will rejoice and blossom".
The Prophet who will come from the "Desert". Again, the Bible also defined the "Desert" to mean the lands of Arabia, Kedar and Teman.
The Prophet of the "New Law" & "New Covenant", whom the Jews "must not fear".
The Prophet who is "like Moses".  Both Muhammad and Moses brought new Laws.  There is the Law of Moses, which the entire Bible is built on, and there is the Law of the Holy Quran, which Islam is built on.
Also in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to have said this to the Jews: "So [For this reason; Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to people [a nation] who do the things God wants in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]." (Matthew 21:43).  Jesus Christ here spoke about foreign people; non-Jews.  Jesus was a Jew and was speaking with Jews.  Read more...
  
-  By the way, the "Kingdom of God" here means THE COVENANT & RELIGION OF GOD on earth to the new nation.
  
-  John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
-  John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.
      

reference : http://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

-----------------

Genesis 49:10[edit]
The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor a lawgiver from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes; And to Him shall be the obedience of the people.

—Genesis 49:10

Deuteronomy 18:18[edit]
18 I will raise up for them a prophet (Prophet) from among their brethren like you, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not hearken to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.

—Deuteronomy 18:18-20

Deuteronomy 33:2[edit]

Jabal An-Nur (literally means: the Mount of Light) in Mecca. It was on this mountain that Muhammad received the first revelation of the Qur'an; which is Verse 96:1: "Read: In the Name of your Lord who created".
"He said,

“The Lord came from Sinai and dawned from Seir upon us;

he shone forth from Mount Paran; he came from the ten thousand of holy ones, with flaming fire at his right hand."
—Deuteronomy 33:2


Psalm 110[edit]
A Psalm of David. The LORD said to my lord: "Sit at My right, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

—Psalm 110:1

and more and more ,

source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_the_Bible

--------------------

 The Awaited Prophet will be from the Brethren of the Jews

The verse in discussion is explicit in saying that the prophet will come amongst the Brethren of the Jews.  Abraham had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac.  The Jews are the descendants of Isaac’s son, Jacob.  The Arabs are the children of Ishmael.  Thus, the Arabs are the brethren of the Jewish nation.[3] The Bible affirms:

‘And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 16:12)

‘And he (Ishmael) died in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 25:18)

The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites.  Likewise, Muhammad is from among the brethren of the Israelites, because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham.

   God Will Put His Words in the Mouth of the Awaited Prophet

The Quran says of Muhammad:

"Neither does he speak out of his own desire: that [which he conveys to you] is but [a divine] inspiration with which he is being inspired." (Quran 53:3-4)

This is quite similar to the verse in Deuteronomy 18:18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him" (Deuteronomy 18:18)

The Prophet Muhammad came with a message to the whole world, and from them, the Jews.  All, including the Jews, must accept his prophethood, and this is supported by the following words:

"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken." (Deuteronomy 18:15)


and more and more

source : http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/199/


have the decency to read the quotes and check the link, if you dont trust the link, go find the book reference (not talking about the Qura'an) but genesis, isa'ah and other testaments old or new

hope this answers your question.  

The whole New Testament in the Bible is all about Jesus. Not sure about this? Read it.

The miracles Jesus did attest to the fact that He is God.

The witness both of the Father and of the Holy Spirit show that He is God.

The Old Testament talks about Him. He said so. The Bible is about Jesus.

What is important about Jesus? It is that...

He came in the form of a man, while at the same time He was God. This happened by the Holy Spirit causing Mary to be with child, so that Jesus had no earthly father.

He lived a completely righteous life, making no mistakes.

He taught the Word of God, the Old Testament, explaining it clearly to the people.

Again, the miracles, done among the people.

Prophesies that came true, especially the one about the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem.

According to the plan that He and His Father set in place, Jesus took the punishment for all the mistakes that all the people of the world made over all time. He did it mostly at the time that He suffered on the cross and several hours before.

He died... after the punishment was complete.

He arose from the dead 3 days later.

Forty days after that, He ascended into Heaven in the sight of His disciples, being hidden by a cloud as he arose into the air.

This was all done so that people could have their mistakes forgiven, and could be saved by God because of it.

It is written right in the New Testament. In a more or less hidden way, it is written in the Old Testament, as well. Jesus is the one that Moses referred to in the Deuteronomy 18:18 area.

The fact that the Islamic prophet doesn't express these things about Jesus, shows that he is a fraud, and that all the things that are written in the Quaran and Hadith are fraudulent. And they are more fraudulent when they attempt to be part of the Bible without expressing these things about Jesus that are so plainly written there. And they are exceptionally fraudulent when they try to replace Jesus with the prophet, himself.

You are badly mistaken. However, I can accept that you believe your mistakes are truth even though they are not.

have you read the full chapter??
we muslims are more christians than you christians - zakir naik

Which full chapter?   

ill do it your way. all your lines, taken where? provide reference like i did. i know where they are but want you to point it out, the i will post the full quote and we shall see why you did not take the full quote and only the line you cherrypicked

Not going to do this. Why not? Because the New Testament is full of things that state all the things that I say. I would have to write the whole New Testament.

See. http://www.godhatesislam.com/faq.html.

This user has reached Troll Level 10

Hey, man. I didn't mean for you to start calling yourself a troll. Relax a bit. I know it's hard to find out that you are wrong. But just relax, and stop calling yourself a troll... at least not yet.

[Netpyder]

The Muslims are searching the Bible for evidence that it talks about Muslims somewhere. Otherwise they would have replied long ago to my post, two posts above this one. This is a difficult one for them. The Bible is quite large.

Just to help them out, they can find different translations of it here https://www.biblegateway.com/. The Old Testament is for the Jews (and Christians). The New Testament is for the Christians (but not the Jews).

sorry but i have been left a negative feedback without dealing with the person and he is not replying to my comment why he left me such a harsh feedback. i want to clear my reputation, been searching how to do it but could not find anyway to.. even pm'd the person, hopeless he is just not replying..


anyways back to the topic :

i did not look at the post. but since you are going on that road, let me post these :

The Prophet who will come from the "EAST". The Bible defined "EAST" to mean Arabia, and the lands of Kedar and Teman (Saudi Arabia today).
The Prophet who will come from "Arabia".
The Prophet who will come from the lands and "tents of Kedar" and "lands of Teman".  Kedar and Teman (also called "Tema" in the Bible) are two of Ishmael's sons: Genesis 25:13-15.
The Prophet who will "crush the idols of the deserts of Kedar".
The Prophet who will "fight the idol worshipers" in the deserts of Kedar.
The people of Kedar will Glorify GOD Almighty, and GOD will Glorify His Holy Temple "in Kedar".
"Arabia will rejoice and blossom".
The Prophet who will come from the "Desert". Again, the Bible also defined the "Desert" to mean the lands of Arabia, Kedar and Teman.
The Prophet of the "New Law" & "New Covenant", whom the Jews "must not fear".
The Prophet who is "like Moses".  Both Muhammad and Moses brought new Laws.  There is the Law of Moses, which the entire Bible is built on, and there is the Law of the Holy Quran, which Islam is built on.
Also in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to have said this to the Jews: "So [For this reason; Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to people [a nation] who do the things God wants in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]." (Matthew 21:43).  Jesus Christ here spoke about foreign people; non-Jews.  Jesus was a Jew and was speaking with Jews.  Read more...
  
-  By the way, the "Kingdom of God" here means THE COVENANT & RELIGION OF GOD on earth to the new nation.
  
-  John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
-  John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.
      

reference : http://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

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Genesis 49:10[edit]
The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor a lawgiver from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes; And to Him shall be the obedience of the people.

—Genesis 49:10

Deuteronomy 18:18[edit]
18 I will raise up for them a prophet (Prophet) from among their brethren like you, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not hearken to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.

—Deuteronomy 18:18-20

Deuteronomy 33:2[edit]

Jabal An-Nur (literally means: the Mount of Light) in Mecca. It was on this mountain that Muhammad received the first revelation of the Qur'an; which is Verse 96:1: "Read: In the Name of your Lord who created".
"He said,

“The Lord came from Sinai and dawned from Seir upon us;

he shone forth from Mount Paran; he came from the ten thousand of holy ones, with flaming fire at his right hand."
—Deuteronomy 33:2


Psalm 110[edit]
A Psalm of David. The LORD said to my lord: "Sit at My right, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

—Psalm 110:1

and more and more ,

source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_the_Bible

--------------------

 The Awaited Prophet will be from the Brethren of the Jews

The verse in discussion is explicit in saying that the prophet will come amongst the Brethren of the Jews.  Abraham had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac.  The Jews are the descendants of Isaac’s son, Jacob.  The Arabs are the children of Ishmael.  Thus, the Arabs are the brethren of the Jewish nation.[3] The Bible affirms:

‘And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 16:12)

‘And he (Ishmael) died in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 25:18)

The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites.  Likewise, Muhammad is from among the brethren of the Israelites, because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham.

   God Will Put His Words in the Mouth of the Awaited Prophet

The Quran says of Muhammad:

"Neither does he speak out of his own desire: that [which he conveys to you] is but [a divine] inspiration with which he is being inspired." (Quran 53:3-4)

This is quite similar to the verse in Deuteronomy 18:18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him" (Deuteronomy 18:18)

The Prophet Muhammad came with a message to the whole world, and from them, the Jews.  All, including the Jews, must accept his prophethood, and this is supported by the following words:

"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken." (Deuteronomy 18:15)


and more and more

source : http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/199/


have the decency to read the quotes and check the link, if you dont trust the link, go find the book reference (not talking about the Qura'an) but genesis, isa'ah and other testaments old or new

hope this answers your question.  

The whole New Testament in the Bible is all about Jesus. Not sure about this? Read it.

The miracles Jesus did attest to the fact that He is God.

The witness both of the Father and of the Holy Spirit show that He is God.

The Old Testament talks about Him. He said so. The Bible is about Jesus.

What is important about Jesus? It is that...

He came in the form of a man, while at the same time He was God. This happened by the Holy Spirit causing Mary to be with child, so that Jesus had no earthly father.

He lived a completely righteous life, making no mistakes.

He taught the Word of God, the Old Testament, explaining it clearly to the people.

Again, the miracles, done among the people.

Prophesies that came true, especially the one about the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem.

According to the plan that He and His Father set in place, Jesus took the punishment for all the mistakes that all the people of the world made over all time. He did it mostly at the time that He suffered on the cross and several hours before.

He died... after the punishment was complete.

He arose from the dead 3 days later.

Forty days after that, He ascended into Heaven in the sight of His disciples, being hidden by a cloud as he arose into the air.

This was all done so that people could have their mistakes forgiven, and could be saved by God because of it.

It is written right in the New Testament. In a more or less hidden way, it is written in the Old Testament, as well. Jesus is the one that Moses referred to in the Deuteronomy 18:18 area.

The fact that the Islamic prophet doesn't express these things about Jesus, shows that he is a fraud, and that all the things that are written in the Quaran and Hadith are fraudulent. And they are more fraudulent when they attempt to be part of the Bible without expressing these things about Jesus that are so plainly written there. And they are exceptionally fraudulent when they try to replace Jesus with the prophet, himself.

You are badly mistaken. However, I can accept that you believe your mistakes are truth even though they are not.

have you read the full chapter??
we muslims are more christians than you christians - zakir naik

Which full chapter?   

ill do it your way. all your lines, taken where? provide reference like i did. i know where they are but want you to point it out, the i will post the full quote and we shall see why you did not take the full quote and only the line you cherrypicked

Not going to do this. Why not? Because the New Testament is full of things that state all the things that I say. I would have to write the whole New Testament.

See. http://www.godhatesislam.com/faq.html.

This user has reached Troll Level 10

Hey, man. I didn't mean for you to start calling yourself a troll. Relax a bit. I know it's hard to find out that you are wrong. But just relax, and stop calling yourself a troll... at least not yet.

hahaha even better.

the link you posted.

kindly answer this;

you believe in what they say? ok fine you do because you think its the truth.
the link itself has nothing wrong??

God was not supposed to love all mankind? what happened?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxoVis_6yNA

[Wilikon]

It's not that they hate people...
It's a fight for the world domination.
We - Europe/ Christianity used to do the same before:

That "world domination by europe theme" can be more accurate by using this image instead





The crusades were a failure in the end, and never reached america for example...

 

[Netpyder]

few people will agree with you, i do. but haters always gonna hate. been explaining to spendulus for over a week, giving quotes, facts and proofs. everytime i answer one of his question and he cannot reply back, he wait for another topic to pop on the thread and push on the topic. once they get their answer and they cannot reply they will find other questions but never accept the answer that has been given.. always hopping off subject to another.. am tired of him a while back, but replying just to defend the accusations against my religion, Islam.
other than that, i dont even want to reply him

[Muhammed Zakir]

few people will agree with you, i do. but haters always gonna hate. been explaining to spendulus for over a week, giving quotes, facts and proofs. everytime i answer one of his question and he cannot reply back, he wait for another topic to pop on the thread and push on the topic. once they get their answer and they cannot reply they will find other questions but never accept the answer that has been given.. always hopping off subject to another.. am tired of him a while back, but replying just to defend the accusations against my religion, Islam.
other than that, i dont even want to reply him

You are right. Glad to know you were active in replying.

The whole New Testament in the Bible is all about Jesus. Not sure about this? Read it.

The miracles Jesus did attest to the fact that He is God.

The witness both of the Father and of the Holy Spirit show that He is God.

The Old Testament talks about Him. He said so. The Bible is about Jesus.

What is important about Jesus? It is that...

He came in the form of a man, while at the same time He was God. This happened by the Holy Spirit causing Mary to be with child, so that Jesus had no earthly father.

He lived a completely righteous life, making no mistakes.

He taught the Word of God, the Old Testament, explaining it clearly to the people.

Again, the miracles, done among the people.

Prophesies that came true, especially the one about the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem.

According to the plan that He and His Father set in place, Jesus took the punishment for all the mistakes that all the people of the world made over all time. He did it mostly at the time that He suffered on the cross and several hours before.

He died... after the punishment was complete.

He arose from the dead 3 days later.

Forty days after that, He ascended into Heaven in the sight of His disciples, being hidden by a cloud as he arose into the air.

This was all done so that people could have their mistakes forgiven, and could be saved by God because of it.

It is written right in the New Testament. In a more or less hidden way, it is written in the Old Testament, as well. Jesus is the one that Moses referred to in the Deuteronomy 18:18 area.

The fact that the Islamic prophet doesn't express these things about Jesus, shows that he is a fraud, and that all the things that are written in the Quaran and Hadith are fraudulent. And they are more fraudulent when they attempt to be part of the Bible without expressing these things about Jesus that are so plainly written there. And they are exceptionally fraudulent when they try to replace Jesus with the prophet, himself.

You are badly mistaken. However, I can accept that you believe your mistakes are truth even though they are not.

#1: Jesus isn't God and is proved already.
#2: Islam didn't tell Christianity is fraud. I already explained that there are periods. Jesus' period is over and now it is Muhammad's period.
#3: You can't believe in Bible because it is edited and contains human-errors.
#4: You can't prove existence of human-errors in Qur'an or Hadiths and yet you say it is fraudulent.
#5: I don't blame you fully but still I blame you for believing whatever lies churches say.
#6: Please don't deliberately avoid the truth.

Thank you!

[Spendulus]

few people will agree with you, i do. but haters always gonna hate. been explaining to spendulus for over a week, giving quotes, facts and proofs. everytime i answer one of his question and he cannot reply back, he wait for another topic to pop on the thread and push on the topic. once they get their answer and they cannot reply they will find other questions but never accept the answer that has been given.. always hopping off subject to another.. am tired of him a while back, but replying just to defend the accusations against my religion, Islam.
other than that, i dont even want to reply him

You are right. Glad to know you were active in replying.

The whole New Testament in the Bible is all about Jesus. Not sure about this? Read it.

The miracles Jesus did attest to the fact that He is God.

The witness both of the Father and of the Holy Spirit show that He is God.

The Old Testament talks about Him. He said so. The Bible is about Jesus.

What is important about Jesus? It is that...

He came in the form of a man, while at the same time He was God. This happened by the Holy Spirit causing Mary to be with child, so that Jesus had no earthly father.

He lived a completely righteous life, making no mistakes.

He taught the Word of God, the Old Testament, explaining it clearly to the people.

Again, the miracles, done among the people.

Prophesies that came true, especially the one about the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem.

According to the plan that He and His Father set in place, Jesus took the punishment for all the mistakes that all the people of the world made over all time. He did it mostly at the time that He suffered on the cross and several hours before.

He died... after the punishment was complete.

He arose from the dead 3 days later.

Forty days after that, He ascended into Heaven in the sight of His disciples, being hidden by a cloud as he arose into the air.

This was all done so that people could have their mistakes forgiven, and could be saved by God because of it.

It is written right in the New Testament. In a more or less hidden way, it is written in the Old Testament, as well. Jesus is the one that Moses referred to in the Deuteronomy 18:18 area.

The fact that the Islamic prophet doesn't express these things about Jesus, shows that he is a fraud, and that all the things that are written in the Quaran and Hadith are fraudulent. And they are more fraudulent when they attempt to be part of the Bible without expressing these things about Jesus that are so plainly written there. And they are exceptionally fraudulent when they try to replace Jesus with the prophet, himself.

You are badly mistaken. However, I can accept that you believe your mistakes are truth even though they are not.

#1: Jesus isn't God and is proved already.
#2: Islam didn't tell Christianity is fraud. I already explained that there are periods. Jesus' period is over and now it is Muhammad's period.
#3: You can't believe in Bible because it is edited and contains human-errors.
#4: You can't prove existence of human-errors in Qur'an or Hadiths and yet you say it is fraudulent.
#5: I don't blame you fully but still I blame you for believing whatever lies churches say.
#6: Please don't deliberately avoid the truth.

Thank you!

Nobody cares about "a proof" from within the belief set of the faithful of one religion or another, except people within that belief set.  I do not care why the ancient people of Egypt believed, and I do not care what the "proof" for cannibalism was within the life of the people of New Guinea. 

Neither do I care about the "proof" that the king of the Aztecs was "God."

Anyone should understand such things.  If this is not possible then it will certainly prevent you from seeing the many faults in your own religion, and if you cannot see them then you are effectively, blinded.

Obviously that is not good.

[jaysabi]

born in Isreal we are forbidden to communicate with muslims, many things goes down here

You're forbidden to communicate with Muslims? By who? I've never heard of this before.

By the government and the MOSAD that would stalk the shit out of you if you do.

By the government? Then there is a law you can provide to prove this? Excuse my skepticism, but there's a lot of BS in this thread, and I'm trying to discern fact from bias.

[Wilikon]

born in Isreal we are forbidden to communicate with muslims, many things goes down here

You're forbidden to communicate with Muslims? By who? I've never heard of this before.

By the government and the MOSAD that would stalk the shit out of you if you do.

By the government? Then there is a law you can provide to prove this? Excuse my skepticism, but there's a lot of BS in this thread, and I'm trying to discern fact from bias.

Anything christians and atheists say in this thread is islamophobic and racist. Anything told and written withing the book of The Religion of Peace© is true, as pure as virgin snow falling down in slow motion, in the hand of a new born muslim...

 

[BADecker]

hahaha even better.

the link you posted.

kindly answer this;

you believe in what they say? ok fine you do because you think its the truth.
the link itself has nothing wrong??

God was not supposed to love all mankind? what happened?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxoVis_6yNA

I don't absolutely know that Mohammed isn't referred to in the Bible. But, if he is a descendant of Abraham through Ishmael, if he has the genealogical records that are absolutely accurate and say this, then here is what the Bible might be referring to about Mohammed, Genesis 16: 11,12:

The angel of the LORD also said to her [Hagar]:

“You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael for the LORD has heard of your misery. He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

Why anyone would want to be a descendant of Ishmael is uncertain, unless the person is of a violent heart, and wants to be associated with violence.

God is love. Genesis 17: 17- says:

Abraham fell facedown; he laughed and said to himself, “Will a son be born to a man a hundred years old? Will Sarah bear a child at the age of ninety?” And Abraham said to God, “If only Ishmael might live under your blessing!”
 
Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year.” When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him.

Out of love God listened to Abraham and made Ishmael strong. But God's greater plan of love was to make Isaac strong, because the Savior, Jesus, would come from the line of Isaac.

The Angel of the Lord spoken about above, was probably Jesus in His state as God. It is a study in itself, but there is a lot of Old Testament evidence that the Angel of the Lord was God, Himself. Yet He wasn't the Father, and certainly He wasn't the Holy Spirit. Thus, He was probably Jesus.

Genesis 21:9-13 says :

But Sarah saw that the son [Ishmael] whom Hagar the Egyptian had borne to Abraham was mocking, and she said to Abraham, “Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac.”

The matter distressed Abraham greatly because it concerned his son. But God said to him, “Do not be so distressed about the boy and your maidservant. Listen to whatever Sarah tells you, because it is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned. I will make the son of the maidservant into a nation also, because he is your offspring."

Galatians 4:21-31 in the New Testament says the same thing:

Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise.

These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. For it is written:

“Be glad, O barren woman,
who bears no children;
break forth and cry aloud,
you who have no labor pains;
because more are the children of the desolate woman
than of her who has a husband.”

Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. But what does the Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

So, why you would want to be a person in slavery, I don't know.

The whole thing is referring to the salvation that Jesus wrought on the cross. He did it to set us free, if we believe in Him. The freedom isn't only for the physical descendants of Isaac. It is for everyone who believes in Jesus as the Savior.

Follow the things of Ishmael and Mohammed if you want, but you are only dooming yourself to an eternity of slavery.

[Spendulus]

born in Isreal we are forbidden to communicate with muslims, many things goes down here

You're forbidden to communicate with Muslims? By who? I've never heard of this before.

By the government and the MOSAD that would stalk the shit out of you if you do.

By the government? Then there is a law you can provide to prove this? Excuse my skepticism, but there's a lot of BS in this thread, and I'm trying to discern fact from bias.

Yes, that's a complete fabrication.  Israel has many issues but "forbidden to communicate with muslims" is not one of them.

[lophie]

Allright since this diverted so much yet admins are okay with that. I will share my opinion and belief. I am a believer of God. Before Islam and Before Abraham. I believe in god in a "somewhat" pure way and I use my heart following god's helping hand helping us reach back.

The first thing I believe in is god's justice and fairness. For that I don't believe in Islam or Christianity as a heritage. To think that some of us "know" the answer is just ego, pride or self deluding. We are all on a journey going there and we have to understand if we are to reach any closer we should hold on on that link that we cannot explain and reach back. I am happy to tell you all that I will easily renounce Islam or whatever religion I would believe in if it showed ungodly. I am well versed in religions but I do not like slamming quotes because really... .who knows? I believe in the Koran because I believe in the method of preservation that was used to preserve it. My heart is closer to it. That is basically it.

My biggest "I want to raise my hand" is with this Christian loath of the self and the condemnation of the DNA trail of ancestry. I will renounce Islam the moment it is proven to me to be the same. I don't even believe Christianity is like that but some people are VERY selective regarding their quotes of the bible.

What about Ezekiel 18:20? You would ignore what the lord said because you want to label a certain bloodline based on what is in Genesis. Really? The books coming from the people that discriminated against everyone and killed him on a cross? You pick their words that they are KNOWN to change and manipulate the scripts to benefit them against your lord and saviour that promoted love, compassion, understanding and equality?

Seriously guys. Muslims are not Mohhammed. Christians are not Jesus (As a human, don't give me a lecture here about his godly essence or whatever). We are humans and we misnterpret, We take things out of context and we do much worse as to fabricate if we need to. Remember what these people taught us and regardless if there were godly or not. Otherwise if god exists, we are just driving ourselves further and further.

[Spendulus]

Allright since this diverted so much yet admins are okay with that. I will share my opinion and belief. I am a believer of God. Before Islam and Before Abraham. I believe in god in a "somewhat" pure way and I use my heart following god's helping hand helping us reach back.

The first thing I believe in is god's justice and fairness. For that I don't believe in Islam or Christianity as a heritage. To think that some of us "know" the answer is just ego, pride or self deluding. We are all on a journey going there and we have to understand if we are to reach any closer we should hold on on that link that we cannot explain and reach back. I am happy to tell you all that I will easily renounce Islam or whatever religion I would believe in if it showed ungodly. I am well versed in religions but I do not like slamming quotes because really... .who knows? I believe in the Koran because I believe in the method of preservation that was used to preserve it. My heart is closer to it. That is basically it.

My biggest "I want to raise my hand" is with this Christian loath of the self and the condemnation of the DNA trail of ancestry. I will renounce Islam the moment it is proven to me to be the same. I don't even believe Christianity is like that but some people are VERY selective regarding their quotes of the bible.

What about Ezekiel 18:20? You would ignore what the lord said because you want to label a certain bloodline based on what is in Genesis. Really? The books coming from the people that discriminated against everyone and killed him on a cross? You pick their words that they are KNOWN to change and manipulate the scripts to benefit them against your lord and saviour that promoted love, compassion, understanding and equality?

Seriously guys. Muslims are not Mohhammed. Christians are not Jesus (As a human, don't give me a lecture here about his godly essence or whatever). We are humans and we misnterpret, We take things out of context and we do much worse as to fabricate if we need to. Remember what these people taught us and regardless if there were godly or not. Otherwise if god exists, we are just driving ourselves further and further.

+1

As an atheist I was tempted to say to those on this thread who argued in favor of the Islamic practice of stoning to death the adulteress...

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

lol...

[Netpyder]

few people will agree with you, i do. but haters always gonna hate. been explaining to spendulus for over a week, giving quotes, facts and proofs. everytime i answer one of his question and he cannot reply back, he wait for another topic to pop on the thread and push on the topic. once they get their answer and they cannot reply they will find other questions but never accept the answer that has been given.. always hopping off subject to another.. am tired of him a while back, but replying just to defend the accusations against my religion, Islam.
other than that, i dont even want to reply him

You are right. Glad to know you were active in replying.

The whole New Testament in the Bible is all about Jesus. Not sure about this? Read it.

The miracles Jesus did attest to the fact that He is God.

The witness both of the Father and of the Holy Spirit show that He is God.

The Old Testament talks about Him. He said so. The Bible is about Jesus.

What is important about Jesus? It is that...

He came in the form of a man, while at the same time He was God. This happened by the Holy Spirit causing Mary to be with child, so that Jesus had no earthly father.

He lived a completely righteous life, making no mistakes.

He taught the Word of God, the Old Testament, explaining it clearly to the people.

Again, the miracles, done among the people.

Prophesies that came true, especially the one about the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem.

According to the plan that He and His Father set in place, Jesus took the punishment for all the mistakes that all the people of the world made over all time. He did it mostly at the time that He suffered on the cross and several hours before.

He died... after the punishment was complete.

He arose from the dead 3 days later.

Forty days after that, He ascended into Heaven in the sight of His disciples, being hidden by a cloud as he arose into the air.

This was all done so that people could have their mistakes forgiven, and could be saved by God because of it.

It is written right in the New Testament. In a more or less hidden way, it is written in the Old Testament, as well. Jesus is the one that Moses referred to in the Deuteronomy 18:18 area.

The fact that the Islamic prophet doesn't express these things about Jesus, shows that he is a fraud, and that all the things that are written in the Quaran and Hadith are fraudulent. And they are more fraudulent when they attempt to be part of the Bible without expressing these things about Jesus that are so plainly written there. And they are exceptionally fraudulent when they try to replace Jesus with the prophet, himself.

You are badly mistaken. However, I can accept that you believe your mistakes are truth even though they are not.

#1: Jesus isn't God and is proved already.
#2: Islam didn't tell Christianity is fraud. I already explained that there are periods. Jesus' period is over and now it is Muhammad's period.
#3: You can't believe in Bible because it is edited and contains human-errors.
#4: You can't prove existence of human-errors in Qur'an or Hadiths and yet you say it is fraudulent.
#5: I don't blame you fully but still I blame you for believing whatever lies churches say.
#6: Please don't deliberately avoid the truth.

Thank you!

you mean the pedophile pastors and all and people believe them

now i know on which topic they are going to hit, but ive got the answer to it too

Hint : Aaisha, daughter of AbuBakr

You are right. Glad to know you were active in replying.

Takbeer!

[Netpyder]

Allright since this diverted so much yet admins are okay with that. I will share my opinion and belief. I am a believer of God. Before Islam and Before Abraham. I believe in god in a "somewhat" pure way and I use my heart following god's helping hand helping us reach back.

The first thing I believe in is god's justice and fairness. For that I don't believe in Islam or Christianity as a heritage. To think that some of us "know" the answer is just ego, pride or self deluding. We are all on a journey going there and we have to understand if we are to reach any closer we should hold on on that link that we cannot explain and reach back. I am happy to tell you all that I will easily renounce Islam or whatever religion I would believe in if it showed ungodly. I am well versed in religions but I do not like slamming quotes because really... .who knows? I believe in the Koran because I believe in the method of preservation that was used to preserve it. My heart is closer to it. That is basically it.

My biggest "I want to raise my hand" is with this Christian loath of the self and the condemnation of the DNA trail of ancestry. I will renounce Islam the moment it is proven to me to be the same. I don't even believe Christianity is like that but some people are VERY selective regarding their quotes of the bible.

What about Ezekiel 18:20? You would ignore what the lord said because you want to label a certain bloodline based on what is in Genesis. Really? The books coming from the people that discriminated against everyone and killed him on a cross? You pick their words that they are KNOWN to change and manipulate the scripts to benefit them against your lord and saviour that promoted love, compassion, understanding and equality?

Seriously guys. Muslims are not Mohhammed. Christians are not Jesus (As a human, don't give me a lecture here about his godly essence or whatever). We are humans and we misnterpret, We take things out of context and we do much worse as to fabricate if we need to. Remember what these people taught us and regardless if there were godly or not. Otherwise if god exists, we are just driving ourselves further and further.

+1

As an atheist I was tempted to say to those on this thread who argued in favor of the Islamic practice of stoning to death the adulteress...

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

lol...

like i said, you will never reply to the answers given, you will search for other lies and point it out like you're the boss.

have a little humility, go in a mosque and read the Quraan from there. it is a complete book, not misunderstood or cherrypicked quotes..

[Spendulus]

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My biggest "I want to raise my hand" is with this Christian loath of the self and the condemnation of the DNA trail of ancestry.....

Well, for me the moment I was ordered to stone someone to death, I would certainly loath myself ever after.



Bolded above, what does it mean?

[Netpyder]

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My biggest "I want to raise my hand" is with this Christian loath of the self and the condemnation of the DNA trail of ancestry.....

Well, for me the moment I was ordered to stone someone to death, I would certainly loath myself ever after.



Bolded above, what does it mean?

why do you pick messages that you can answer or deviate from the subject?