Why do islam hates people?

[Wilikon]

http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/may/17/losing-their-religion-british-ex-muslims-non-believers-hidden-crisis-faith

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[Chef Ramsay]

I think when the Muslims are radicalized by whatever means that it's high time to move in a different direction from these kinda folks. There's no future when these kinds go rogue and we should all reject what they have to offer.

[BADecker]

In America, there are at least thousands, maybe millions, of Muslims. If some average person quits being a Muslim, he will be ostracized by his Muslim community. If he is a big Muslim person, a Muslim civil rights leader, for example, if he quits Islam (or even changes Islamic denomination) he or family members might be assassinated. Just ask Malcolm X.

The Muslim guys who executed/assassinated Malcolm X (1965) still will not admit that they did it. They want us to think that Islam is peaceful.

If an Islamite says that Islam is peaceful towards people who are not Muslims, he is lying or ignorant. Either way, he is not to be trusted. A Muslim is a death threat to all non-Muslims, just by being alive.

[Muhammed Zakir]

In America, there are at least thousands, maybe millions, of Muslims. If some average person quits being a Muslim, he will be ostracized by his Muslim community. If he is a big Muslim person, a Muslim civil rights leader, for example, if he quits Islam (or even changes Islamic denomination) he or family members might be assassinated. Just ask Malcolm X.

The Muslim guys who executed/assassinated Malcolm X (1965) still will not admit that they did it. They want us to think that Islam is peaceful.

If an Islamite says that Islam is peaceful towards people who are not Muslims, he is lying or ignorant. Either way, he is not to be trusted. A Muslim is a death threat to all non-Muslims, just by being alive.

Thank you for another hatred spreading lying speach!

[erikalui]

In America, there are at least thousands, maybe millions, of Muslims. If some average person quits being a Muslim, he will be ostracized by his Muslim community. If he is a big Muslim person, a Muslim civil rights leader, for example, if he quits Islam (or even changes Islamic denomination) he or family members might be assassinated. Just ask Malcolm X.

The Muslim guys who executed/assassinated Malcolm X (1965) still will not admit that they did it. They want us to think that Islam is peaceful.

If an Islamite says that Islam is peaceful towards people who are not Muslims, he is lying or ignorant. Either way, he is not to be trusted. A Muslim is a death threat to all non-Muslims, just by being alive.

Am I dreaming or you seriously said this  So much hatred towards Muslims or Islam won't earn you anything in life but hatred just kills a person's soul day by day. Leave the hatred and then you might change your perspective towards life and religions.

[Muhammed Zakir]

In America, there are at least thousands, maybe millions, of Muslims. If some average person quits being a Muslim, he will be ostracized by his Muslim community. If he is a big Muslim person, a Muslim civil rights leader, for example, if he quits Islam (or even changes Islamic denomination) he or family members might be assassinated. Just ask Malcolm X.

The Muslim guys who executed/assassinated Malcolm X (1965) still will not admit that they did it. They want us to think that Islam is peaceful.

If an Islamite says that Islam is peaceful towards people who are not Muslims, he is lying or ignorant. Either way, he is not to be trusted. A Muslim is a death threat to all non-Muslims, just by being alive.

Am I dreaming or you seriously said this  So much hatred towards Muslims or Islam won't earn you anything in life but hatred just kills a person's soul day by day. Leave the hatred and then you might change your perspective towards life and religions.

Actually, I don't think he "hate" Muslims. He want to "spread" hatred and tell "come to Christianity". (no offence)

[erikalui]

Actually, I don't think he "hate" Muslims. He want to "spread" hatred and tell "come to Christianity". (no offence)

LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church. I have seen so many Christians who just think about themselves and care a damn about others. *Show offs* No religion is good or bad but it's the person who is good/bad. Spreading hatred gets you hate in return and spreading love gets you love.

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

In America, there are at least thousands, maybe millions, of Muslims. If some average person quits being a Muslim, he will be ostracized by his Muslim community. If he is a big Muslim person, a Muslim civil rights leader, for example, if he quits Islam (or even changes Islamic denomination) he or family members might be assassinated. Just ask Malcolm X.

The Muslim guys who executed/assassinated Malcolm X (1965) still will not admit that they did it. They want us to think that Islam is peaceful.

If an Islamite says that Islam is peaceful towards people who are not Muslims, he is lying or ignorant. Either way, he is not to be trusted. A Muslim is a death threat to all non-Muslims, just by being alive.

Am I dreaming or you seriously said this  So much hatred towards Muslims or Islam won't earn you anything in life but hatred just kills a person's soul day by day. Leave the hatred and then you might change your perspective towards life and religions.

Actually, I don't think he "hate" Muslims. He want to "spread" hatred and tell "come to Christianity". (no offence)

And if he is doing that then I don't think there should be any problem with you cause everyone has the right to spread their own religion without "hating" the other religion.
It's still better than the Muslims in Arabian countries practicing their religion, at least Christian nations other non-Muslim nations don't object you from following your religion, but Islamic nations are the ones who even do not allow to practice your choice of religion.
How peaceful and liberating would this be in the long run!

[BADecker]

In America, there are at least thousands, maybe millions, of Muslims. If some average person quits being a Muslim, he will be ostracized by his Muslim community. If he is a big Muslim person, a Muslim civil rights leader, for example, if he quits Islam (or even changes Islamic denomination) he or family members might be assassinated. Just ask Malcolm X.

The Muslim guys who executed/assassinated Malcolm X (1965) still will not admit that they did it. They want us to think that Islam is peaceful.

If an Islamite says that Islam is peaceful towards people who are not Muslims, he is lying or ignorant. Either way, he is not to be trusted. A Muslim is a death threat to all non-Muslims, just by being alive.

Am I dreaming or you seriously said this 

You need to read the rest of this thread to see the many things that people have said for and against Islam.

So much hatred towards Muslims or Islam won't earn you anything in life but hatred just kills a person's soul day by day.

I agree that hatred is a thing that harms the hater more than doing him good.

Hatred, alone, against Muslims won't earn anybody anything. Some people might profit off hatred against Muslims or Islam. Why do you say this. It is easily recognized. It is part of the reason that there is strife in the Middle East? There are those who are trying to profit off the hatred of Islam and Muslims.

Leave the hatred and then you might change your perspective towards life and religions.

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

[Wilikon]

Actually, I don't think he "hate" Muslims. He want to "spread" hatred and tell "come to Christianity". (no offence)

LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church. I have seen so many Christians who just think about themselves and care a damn about others. *Show offs* No religion is good or bad but it's the person who is good/bad. Spreading hatred gets you hate in return and spreading love gets you love.

Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread looove hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 

[erikalui]

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

Your statement seemed that you either hate the religion or are spreading hate about Islam. This thread title itself is wrong. Nobody should hate anything is life as the word HATE has an intense meaning. It's OK to dislike someone or something but not HATE.

People who hate Islam or other people who are hated by Islam actually have no reason to hate but they are just taught to hate each other. It's this hatred which makes them commit a crime and not that they want to commit a crime. That's why we should hate the word "Hate" and not the actual person.

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong. It would be wrong on my path if I did wrong to him because he did wrong to my family. It would make me a criminal. I might have felt like doing wrong but my conscious would stop me.


I don't know what you mean by people who are deeply Islamic and your comparison with Jesus and Christianity. Priests who I consider the preachers of God have themselves behaved badly towards me and my family. They showed hatred to me when I was a child. Hence I don't consider Christianity anywhere above Islam.

Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread looove hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 

@blue: Love doesn't harm anyone except when it's blind love. You can spread love by not harming anyone emotionally or physically.

I did not choose to be born as a Christian. If I had to choose to be born as a Muslim, Christian or Hindu or any other religion, I would chose to not be born. If my religion was so good, why would priests rape innocent girls? Priests are supposed to be believers of Christ and they do wrong towards humans?

It may be true that those who have left Islam might have been punished. But those who punished them can't be called Muslims themselves. I don't consider evil people worthy of even being alive as they are cruel. It's because of such people that the entire religion is blamed while I know of those who are good and criticize these acts. They also are Muslims but their conscience doesn't tell them to be evil.


@red: When I say this, I don't care what happens to me next. I know there are some who get scared of criticizing their religion because of people who have blind faith.

[BADecker]

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

Your statement seemed that you either hate the religion or are spreading hate about Islam. This thread title itself is wrong. Nobody should hate anything is life as the word HATE has an intense meaning. It's OK to dislike someone or something but not HATE.

People who hate Islam or other people who are hated by Islam actually have no reason to hate but they are just taught to hate each other. It's this hatred which makes them commit a crime and not that they want to commit a crime. That's why we should hate the word "Hate" and not the actual person.

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong. It would be wrong on my path if I did wrong to him because he did wrong to my family. It would make me a criminal. I might have felt like doing wrong but my conscious would stop me.


I don't know what you mean by people who are deeply Islamic and your comparison with Jesus and Christianity. Priests who I consider the preachers of God have themselves behaved badly towards me and my family. They showed hatred to me when I was a child. Hence I don't consider Christianity anywhere above Islam.

Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread looove hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 

@blue: Love doesn't harm anyone except when it's blind love. You can spread love by not harming anyone emotionally or physically.

I did not choose to be born as a Christian. If I had to choose to be born as a Muslim, Christian or Hindu or any other religion, I would chose to not be born. If my religion was so good, why would priests rape innocent girls? Priests are supposed to be believers of Christ and they do wrong towards humans?

It may be true that those who have left Islam might have been punished. But those who punished them can't be called Muslims themselves. I don't consider evil people worthy of even being alive as they are cruel. It's because of such people that the entire religion is blamed while I know of those who are good and criticize these acts. They also are Muslims but their conscience doesn't tell them to be evil.


@red: When I say this, I don't care what happens to me next. I know there are some who get scared of criticizing their religion because of people who have blind faith.

In Christianity, in the Bible, Jesus asked what the greatest law was. This is the greatest law regarding everything. The answer is, "Love God above all things" and the second is, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Jesus went on to tell the parable of the good Samaritan to show that your neighbor is anyone who is around you.

Does Islam say to love God above all things? Does it say to love anybody who might be your neighbor, as much as you love yourself?

You don't need to be hateful or be spreading hate to show the truth about Islam. Wherever they spread the Quran and their prophetic writings, they are spreading the hate themselves. Warning about them is showing love.

[Spendulus]

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In Christianity, in the Bible, Jesus asked what the greatest law was. This is the greatest law regarding everything. The answer is, "Love God above all things" and the second is, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Jesus went on to tell the parable of the good Samaritan to show that your neighbor is anyone who is around you.

Does Islam say to love God above all things? Does it say to love anybody who might be your neighbor, as much as you love yourself?

You don't need to be hateful or be spreading hate to show the truth about Islam. Wherever they spread the Quran and their prophetic writings, they are spreading the hate themselves. Warning about them is showing love.

That is a total pile of bullshit named your personal take on religion.

I have many friends who grew up in and still (to varying degrees) believe in Islam.

I am curious, do you?

[BADecker]

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In Christianity, in the Bible, Jesus asked what the greatest law was. This is the greatest law regarding everything. The answer is, "Love God above all things" and the second is, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Jesus went on to tell the parable of the good Samaritan to show that your neighbor is anyone who is around you.

Does Islam say to love God above all things? Does it say to love anybody who might be your neighbor, as much as you love yourself?

You don't need to be hateful or be spreading hate to show the truth about Islam. Wherever they spread the Quran and their prophetic writings, they are spreading the hate themselves. Warning about them is showing love.

That is a total pile of bullshit named your personal take on religion.

I have many friends who grew up in and still (to varying degrees) believe in Islam.

I am curious, do you?

Since you quoted part of my post, I assume you are talking to me. My "personal take on religion?" The part about the two main laws is written in the Bible. You can go look.

Do I believe in Islam? I guess I believe it exists. Am I an Islmite? No, and I would consider myself a Christian, in the ways that the Bible expresses Christianity, not by the ways that other people may.

Want to point out the part(s) that you think are "a total pile of bullshit?" I had thought that it was quite recognizable as at least plausible, to anybody.

[Wilikon]

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

Your statement seemed that you either hate the religion or are spreading hate about Islam. This thread title itself is wrong. Nobody should hate anything is life as the word HATE has an intense meaning. It's OK to dislike someone or something but not HATE.

People who hate Islam or other people who are hated by Islam actually have no reason to hate but they are just taught to hate each other. It's this hatred which makes them commit a crime and not that they want to commit a crime. That's why we should hate the word "Hate" and not the actual person.

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong. It would be wrong on my path if I did wrong to him because he did wrong to my family. It would make me a criminal. I might have felt like doing wrong but my conscious would stop me.


I don't know what you mean by people who are deeply Islamic and your comparison with Jesus and Christianity. Priests who I consider the preachers of God have themselves behaved badly towards me and my family. They showed hatred to me when I was a child. Hence I don't consider Christianity anywhere above Islam.

Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread looove hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 

@blue: Love doesn't harm anyone except when it's blind love. You can spread love by not harming anyone emotionally or physically.

I did not choose to be born as a Christian. If I had to choose to be born as a Muslim, Christian or Hindu or any other religion, I would chose to not be born. If my religion was so good, why would priests rape innocent girls? Priests are supposed to be believers of Christ and they do wrong towards humans?

It may be true that those who have left Islam might have been punished. But those who punished them can't be called Muslims themselves. I don't consider evil people worthy of even being alive as they are cruel. It's because of such people that the entire religion is blamed while I know of those who are good and criticize these acts. They also are Muslims but their conscience doesn't tell them to be evil.


@red: When I say this, I don't care what happens to me next. I know there are some who get scared of criticizing their religion because of people who have blind faith.

In your case you don't care what happens to you next. That is fine.

In post #1647 there is the tale of sulaiman vali. He was a muslim. He rather not say where he lives because "they" may burn his home down. Maybe he lives alone in his home. Maybe he has a whole family. Maybe "they" will not care about his family burning down where he lives. Maybe he cannot NOT care what happen to him next.

You do not need to chose between expressing yourself or expressing yourself and be scared. It is a relief, an amazing fortune sulaiman vali cannot take for granted.

[Spendulus]

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong.

You may not understand the method used by Hitler, which is very similar to those who manipulate radical jihadists.

It is a method of pushing a little bit at a time, at the edges of comfort of the common person, until one day he finds himself in a new and evil world, which he helped create by his complacency. 

The hate is not toward hitler but toward the lazy and cowardly in each person, that allows them to be intimidated into doing a little bit wrong, then a little bit more wrong, over and over.

[Muhammed Zakir]

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

Your statement seemed that you either hate the religion or are spreading hate about Islam. This thread title itself is wrong. Nobody should hate anything is life as the word HATE has an intense meaning. It's OK to dislike someone or something but not HATE.

People who hate Islam or other people who are hated by Islam actually have no reason to hate but they are just taught to hate each other. It's this hatred which makes them commit a crime and not that they want to commit a crime. That's why we should hate the word "Hate" and not the actual person.

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong. It would be wrong on my path if I did wrong to him because he did wrong to my family. It would make me a criminal. I might have felt like doing wrong but my conscious would stop me.


I don't know what you mean by people who are deeply Islamic and your comparison with Jesus and Christianity. Priests who I consider the preachers of God have themselves behaved badly towards me and my family. They showed hatred to me when I was a child. Hence I don't consider Christianity anywhere above Islam.

Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread looove hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 

@blue: Love doesn't harm anyone except when it's blind love. You can spread love by not harming anyone emotionally or physically.

I did not choose to be born as a Christian. If I had to choose to be born as a Muslim, Christian or Hindu or any other religion, I would chose to not be born. If my religion was so good, why would priests rape innocent girls? Priests are supposed to be believers of Christ and they do wrong towards humans?

It may be true that those who have left Islam might have been punished. But those who punished them can't be called Muslims themselves. I don't consider evil people worthy of even being alive as they are cruel. It's because of such people that the entire religion is blamed while I know of those who are good and criticize these acts. They also are Muslims but their conscience doesn't tell them to be evil.


@red: When I say this, I don't care what happens to me next. I know there are some who get scared of criticizing their religion because of people who have blind faith.

In Christianity, in the Bible, Jesus asked what the greatest law was. This is the greatest law regarding everything. The answer is, "Love God above all things" and the second is, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Jesus went on to tell the parable of the good Samaritan to show that your neighbor is anyone who is around you.

Does Islam say to love God above all things? Does it say to love anybody who might be your neighbor, as much as you love yourself?

You don't need to be hateful or be spreading hate to show the truth about Islam. Wherever they spread the Quran and their prophetic writings, they are spreading the hate themselves. Warning about them is showing love.

Yes. In Islam, you should love God above all things.

About neighbours:

The Holy Prophet said: "That man is not from me who sleeps contentedly while his neighbour sleeps hungry."
 
Al-Imam `Ali ibn al-Husayn (a. s.) in his Risalat al-Huquq, said:
“These are your duties towards your neighbour: Protect his interests when he is absent; show him respect when he is present; help him when he is inflicted with any injustice. Do not remain on the look-out to detect his faults; and if, by any chance, you happen to know any undesirable thing about him, hide it from others; and, at the same time, try to desist him from improper habits, if there is any chance that he will listen to you. Never leave him alone at any calamity. Forgive him, if he has done any wrong. In short, live with him a noble life, based on the highest Islamic ethical code.”

Narrated by Ibn Umar and Aisha (May Allah be pleased with them) saying that the Messenger of Allah said:

"Angel Jibril advised me continuously to take care of the neighbour till I thought that Allah is to make him an inheritor."

Narrated by Abu Zarr Al-Ghaffari (May Allah be pleased with him) saying that the Prophet (pbuh) said:

O Abu Zarr! Whenever you cook food, increase its contents, and take care of your neighbours.   [Muslim]

Prophet (pbuh) said:

In the name of Allah, he is not a believer, In the Name of Allah, he is not a believer, In the Name of Allah, he is not a believer. They asked him, who is he O Messenger of Allah! He said: It is he whose neighbor is not safe of him.    [Agreed]

Every forty houses are your neighbours: The ones in front of you, the ones from the back, the ones on the right and the ones on the left.   [Tahhawi]

In another Hadith the Prophet (pbuh) explains the rights and obligations toward a neighbour:

The rights of the neighbour is that, when he is sick you visit him; when he dies, you go to his funeral; when he is poor you lend him (money); when he is in need you protect him; when he is in happiness you congratulate him; when he is struck with a calamity, you condole him; don't raise your building above his to cut off the wind from him; don't harm him with the good smell of your food unless you let him have part of it.   [Tabarani]

In another Hadith, the Prophet (pbuh) explained some of the causes of happiness to the individuals:

Among the happiness of a Muslim is a good neighbour, and wide house, and a relaxing transportation...    [Ahmad & Al-Hakim]

There are many more hadiths about neighbors.

[BADecker]

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

Your statement seemed that you either hate the religion or are spreading hate about Islam. This thread title itself is wrong. Nobody should hate anything is life as the word HATE has an intense meaning. It's OK to dislike someone or something but not HATE.

People who hate Islam or other people who are hated by Islam actually have no reason to hate but they are just taught to hate each other. It's this hatred which makes them commit a crime and not that they want to commit a crime. That's why we should hate the word "Hate" and not the actual person.

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong. It would be wrong on my path if I did wrong to him because he did wrong to my family. It would make me a criminal. I might have felt like doing wrong but my conscious would stop me.


I don't know what you mean by people who are deeply Islamic and your comparison with Jesus and Christianity. Priests who I consider the preachers of God have themselves behaved badly towards me and my family. They showed hatred to me when I was a child. Hence I don't consider Christianity anywhere above Islam.

Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread looove hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 

@blue: Love doesn't harm anyone except when it's blind love. You can spread love by not harming anyone emotionally or physically.

I did not choose to be born as a Christian. If I had to choose to be born as a Muslim, Christian or Hindu or any other religion, I would chose to not be born. If my religion was so good, why would priests rape innocent girls? Priests are supposed to be believers of Christ and they do wrong towards humans?

It may be true that those who have left Islam might have been punished. But those who punished them can't be called Muslims themselves. I don't consider evil people worthy of even being alive as they are cruel. It's because of such people that the entire religion is blamed while I know of those who are good and criticize these acts. They also are Muslims but their conscience doesn't tell them to be evil.


@red: When I say this, I don't care what happens to me next. I know there are some who get scared of criticizing their religion because of people who have blind faith.

In Christianity, in the Bible, Jesus asked what the greatest law was. This is the greatest law regarding everything. The answer is, "Love God above all things" and the second is, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Jesus went on to tell the parable of the good Samaritan to show that your neighbor is anyone who is around you.

Does Islam say to love God above all things? Does it say to love anybody who might be your neighbor, as much as you love yourself?

You don't need to be hateful or be spreading hate to show the truth about Islam. Wherever they spread the Quran and their prophetic writings, they are spreading the hate themselves. Warning about them is showing love.

Yes. In Islam, you should love God above all things.

About neighbours:

The Holy Prophet said: "That man is not from me who sleeps contentedly while his neighbour sleeps hungry."
 
Al-Imam `Ali ibn al-Husayn (a. s.) in his Risalat al-Huquq, said:
“These are your duties towards your neighbour: Protect his interests when he is absent; show him respect when he is present; help him when he is inflicted with any injustice. Do not remain on the look-out to detect his faults; and if, by any chance, you happen to know any undesirable thing about him, hide it from others; and, at the same time, try to desist him from improper habits, if there is any chance that he will listen to you. Never leave him alone at any calamity. Forgive him, if he has done any wrong. In short, live with him a noble life, based on the highest Islamic ethical code.”

Narrated by Ibn Umar and Aisha (May Allah be pleased with them) saying that the Messenger of Allah said:

"Angel Jibril advised me continuously to take care of the neighbour till I thought that Allah is to make him an inheritor."

Narrated by Abu Zarr Al-Ghaffari (May Allah be pleased with him) saying that the Prophet (pbuh) said:

O Abu Zarr! Whenever you cook food, increase its contents, and take care of your neighbours.   [Muslim]

Prophet (pbuh) said:

In the name of Allah, he is not a believer, In the Name of Allah, he is not a believer, In the Name of Allah, he is not a believer. They asked him, who is he O Messenger of Allah! He said: It is he whose neighbor is not safe of him.    [Agreed]

Every forty houses are your neighbours: The ones in front of you, the ones from the back, the ones on the right and the ones on the left.   [Tahhawi]

In another Hadith the Prophet (pbuh) explains the rights and obligations toward a neighbour:

The rights of the neighbour is that, when he is sick you visit him; when he dies, you go to his funeral; when he is poor you lend him (money); when he is in need you protect him; when he is in happiness you congratulate him; when he is struck with a calamity, you condole him; don't raise your building above his to cut off the wind from him; don't harm him with the good smell of your food unless you let him have part of it.   [Tabarani]

In another Hadith, the Prophet (pbuh) explained some of the causes of happiness to the individuals:

Among the happiness of a Muslim is a good neighbour, and wide house, and a relaxing transportation...    [Ahmad & Al-Hakim]

There are many more hadiths about neighbors.

I suspect that there are many reasonably Islam-ignorant Muslims that help their Christian neighbors.

[Muhammed Zakir]

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

Your statement seemed that you either hate the religion or are spreading hate about Islam. This thread title itself is wrong. Nobody should hate anything is life as the word HATE has an intense meaning. It's OK to dislike someone or something but not HATE.

People who hate Islam or other people who are hated by Islam actually have no reason to hate but they are just taught to hate each other. It's this hatred which makes them commit a crime and not that they want to commit a crime. That's why we should hate the word "Hate" and not the actual person.

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong. It would be wrong on my path if I did wrong to him because he did wrong to my family. It would make me a criminal. I might have felt like doing wrong but my conscious would stop me.


I don't know what you mean by people who are deeply Islamic and your comparison with Jesus and Christianity. Priests who I consider the preachers of God have themselves behaved badly towards me and my family. They showed hatred to me when I was a child. Hence I don't consider Christianity anywhere above Islam.

Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread looove hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 

@blue: Love doesn't harm anyone except when it's blind love. You can spread love by not harming anyone emotionally or physically.

I did not choose to be born as a Christian. If I had to choose to be born as a Muslim, Christian or Hindu or any other religion, I would chose to not be born. If my religion was so good, why would priests rape innocent girls? Priests are supposed to be believers of Christ and they do wrong towards humans?

It may be true that those who have left Islam might have been punished. But those who punished them can't be called Muslims themselves. I don't consider evil people worthy of even being alive as they are cruel. It's because of such people that the entire religion is blamed while I know of those who are good and criticize these acts. They also are Muslims but their conscience doesn't tell them to be evil.


@red: When I say this, I don't care what happens to me next. I know there are some who get scared of criticizing their religion because of people who have blind faith.

In Christianity, in the Bible, Jesus asked what the greatest law was. This is the greatest law regarding everything. The answer is, "Love God above all things" and the second is, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Jesus went on to tell the parable of the good Samaritan to show that your neighbor is anyone who is around you.

Does Islam say to love God above all things? Does it say to love anybody who might be your neighbor, as much as you love yourself?

You don't need to be hateful or be spreading hate to show the truth about Islam. Wherever they spread the Quran and their prophetic writings, they are spreading the hate themselves. Warning about them is showing love.

Yes. In Islam, you should love God above all things.

About neighbours:

The Holy Prophet said: "That man is not from me who sleeps contentedly while his neighbour sleeps hungry."
 
Al-Imam `Ali ibn al-Husayn (a. s.) in his Risalat al-Huquq, said:
“These are your duties towards your neighbour: Protect his interests when he is absent; show him respect when he is present; help him when he is inflicted with any injustice. Do not remain on the look-out to detect his faults; and if, by any chance, you happen to know any undesirable thing about him, hide it from others; and, at the same time, try to desist him from improper habits, if there is any chance that he will listen to you. Never leave him alone at any calamity. Forgive him, if he has done any wrong. In short, live with him a noble life, based on the highest Islamic ethical code.”

Narrated by Ibn Umar and Aisha (May Allah be pleased with them) saying that the Messenger of Allah said:

"Angel Jibril advised me continuously to take care of the neighbour till I thought that Allah is to make him an inheritor."

Narrated by Abu Zarr Al-Ghaffari (May Allah be pleased with him) saying that the Prophet (pbuh) said:

O Abu Zarr! Whenever you cook food, increase its contents, and take care of your neighbours.   [Muslim]

Prophet (pbuh) said:

In the name of Allah, he is not a believer, In the Name of Allah, he is not a believer, In the Name of Allah, he is not a believer. They asked him, who is he O Messenger of Allah! He said: It is he whose neighbor is not safe of him.    [Agreed]

Every forty houses are your neighbours: The ones in front of you, the ones from the back, the ones on the right and the ones on the left.   [Tahhawi]

In another Hadith the Prophet (pbuh) explains the rights and obligations toward a neighbour:

The rights of the neighbour is that, when he is sick you visit him; when he dies, you go to his funeral; when he is poor you lend him (money); when he is in need you protect him; when he is in happiness you congratulate him; when he is struck with a calamity, you condole him; don't raise your building above his to cut off the wind from him; don't harm him with the good smell of your food unless you let him have part of it.   [Tabarani]

In another Hadith, the Prophet (pbuh) explained some of the causes of happiness to the individuals:

Among the happiness of a Muslim is a good neighbour, and wide house, and a relaxing transportation...    [Ahmad & Al-Hakim]

There are many more hadiths about neighbors.

I suspect that there are many reasonably Islam-ignorant Muslims that help their Christian neighbors.

This a perfect evidence to my words "BADecker knows nothing about Islam and is spreading lies to spread hatred to tell Christianity is ultimate religion". Again, I have no problem with Christians.

[BADecker]

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

Your statement seemed that you either hate the religion or are spreading hate about Islam. This thread title itself is wrong. Nobody should hate anything is life as the word HATE has an intense meaning. It's OK to dislike someone or something but not HATE.

People who hate Islam or other people who are hated by Islam actually have no reason to hate but they are just taught to hate each other. It's this hatred which makes them commit a crime and not that they want to commit a crime. That's why we should hate the word "Hate" and not the actual person.

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong. It would be wrong on my path if I did wrong to him because he did wrong to my family. It would make me a criminal. I might have felt like doing wrong but my conscious would stop me.


I don't know what you mean by people who are deeply Islamic and your comparison with Jesus and Christianity. Priests who I consider the preachers of God have themselves behaved badly towards me and my family. They showed hatred to me when I was a child. Hence I don't consider Christianity anywhere above Islam.

Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread looove hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 

@blue: Love doesn't harm anyone except when it's blind love. You can spread love by not harming anyone emotionally or physically.

I did not choose to be born as a Christian. If I had to choose to be born as a Muslim, Christian or Hindu or any other religion, I would chose to not be born. If my religion was so good, why would priests rape innocent girls? Priests are supposed to be believers of Christ and they do wrong towards humans?

It may be true that those who have left Islam might have been punished. But those who punished them can't be called Muslims themselves. I don't consider evil people worthy of even being alive as they are cruel. It's because of such people that the entire religion is blamed while I know of those who are good and criticize these acts. They also are Muslims but their conscience doesn't tell them to be evil.


@red: When I say this, I don't care what happens to me next. I know there are some who get scared of criticizing their religion because of people who have blind faith.

In Christianity, in the Bible, Jesus asked what the greatest law was. This is the greatest law regarding everything. The answer is, "Love God above all things" and the second is, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Jesus went on to tell the parable of the good Samaritan to show that your neighbor is anyone who is around you.

Does Islam say to love God above all things? Does it say to love anybody who might be your neighbor, as much as you love yourself?

You don't need to be hateful or be spreading hate to show the truth about Islam. Wherever they spread the Quran and their prophetic writings, they are spreading the hate themselves. Warning about them is showing love.

Yes. In Islam, you should love God above all things.

About neighbours:

The Holy Prophet said: "That man is not from me who sleeps contentedly while his neighbour sleeps hungry."
 
Al-Imam `Ali ibn al-Husayn (a. s.) in his Risalat al-Huquq, said:
“These are your duties towards your neighbour: Protect his interests when he is absent; show him respect when he is present; help him when he is inflicted with any injustice. Do not remain on the look-out to detect his faults; and if, by any chance, you happen to know any undesirable thing about him, hide it from others; and, at the same time, try to desist him from improper habits, if there is any chance that he will listen to you. Never leave him alone at any calamity. Forgive him, if he has done any wrong. In short, live with him a noble life, based on the highest Islamic ethical code.”

Narrated by Ibn Umar and Aisha (May Allah be pleased with them) saying that the Messenger of Allah said:

"Angel Jibril advised me continuously to take care of the neighbour till I thought that Allah is to make him an inheritor."

Narrated by Abu Zarr Al-Ghaffari (May Allah be pleased with him) saying that the Prophet (pbuh) said:

O Abu Zarr! Whenever you cook food, increase its contents, and take care of your neighbours.   [Muslim]

Prophet (pbuh) said:

In the name of Allah, he is not a believer, In the Name of Allah, he is not a believer, In the Name of Allah, he is not a believer. They asked him, who is he O Messenger of Allah! He said: It is he whose neighbor is not safe of him.    [Agreed]

Every forty houses are your neighbours: The ones in front of you, the ones from the back, the ones on the right and the ones on the left.   [Tahhawi]

In another Hadith the Prophet (pbuh) explains the rights and obligations toward a neighbour:

The rights of the neighbour is that, when he is sick you visit him; when he dies, you go to his funeral; when he is poor you lend him (money); when he is in need you protect him; when he is in happiness you congratulate him; when he is struck with a calamity, you condole him; don't raise your building above his to cut off the wind from him; don't harm him with the good smell of your food unless you let him have part of it.   [Tabarani]

In another Hadith, the Prophet (pbuh) explained some of the causes of happiness to the individuals:

Among the happiness of a Muslim is a good neighbour, and wide house, and a relaxing transportation...    [Ahmad & Al-Hakim]

There are many more hadiths about neighbors.

I suspect that there are many reasonably Islam-ignorant Muslims that help their Christian neighbors.

This a perfect evidence to my words "BADecker knows nothing about Islam and is spreading lies to spread hatred to tell Christianity is ultimate religion". Again, I have no problem with Christians.

I don't like to think bad things about anyone. But after all the evidence of Islamic violence and terrorism shown is the posts in the various Islam threads in this forum, I'm starting to think that Muhammed Zakir is trying to cover up the violence in Islam for purposes that might not be so pure. Sure, Muhammed Zakir talks peacefully - even sweetly at times - even like he is on the defensive at times. But this is the same way people talk when they have larceny in their hearts and minds.

If there wasn't a whole lot of evidence to the opposite, both in this forum and all over the Net, I might be tempted to believe Muhammed Zakir. But with all the evidence, what is Muhammed Zakir really trying to do?