Ah, right. Must be those gay frogs causing all this trouble.


Someone needs to call Biden and tell him that he has "veto power" to stop the war. Why did no one ever think of that.

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You two clowns suck at this propaganda thing. Let be.open speak for Putin, at least he can toe the party line.

Kind of a double standard, isn't it? Or will Russia invite UN experts to Mariupol now? Oh wait, they're still not allowing ICRC evacuations and humanitarian aid, despite claiming full control of the city.

There are many reports from Bucha and other suburbs of Kyiv, and not just the handpicked few that you tried to refute. Even a drone video of Russian forces killing a bicyclist. Mass graves. It's quite absurd to think that during the month of occupation Ukrainians multiple times secretly entered the occupied city and killed civilians just to frame Russians afterwards.

In Mariupol, there are even Russian propaganda videos showing Russian forces shelling apartment buildings, like this: https://iz.ru/1321999/2022-04-17/poiavilis-kadry-posledstvii-aviaudara-po-pozitciiam-natcionalistov-v-mariupole alleging they're aiming at "nationalists" with no evidence of course.

Or this article for example, not particularly favorable to Ukrainians but also quite clear about Russian forces destroying the city and killing civilians: https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5316007

Putin is not God. Patrick Lancaster is not a journalist.

Putin trolls are out of control on this board.

On the subject of heroes, I'm impressed by the resilience of people who do this day after day under shelling and bombardment:

You asked me to come to this thread, and I'm telling you that you did not present proof of being scammed. I don't know you, nor do I know the person you're accusing.

Now you're accusing me, which also fits the pattern of you launching accusations with no proof.

That's not proof. As sandy-is-fine said, it's much more likely that you got fucked because you're a massive idiot and added thousands of dollars worth of gift cards to your account.


"if" is not proof.


Oh, now you're sure. Ok then. Don't bother with proof.

You have shown that you purchased something and I can believe that you did buy gift cards. There is no proof that you got scammed.


I did read it and I won't change my mind based on what I've seen.

I received a PM from the OP as well, even though I have nothing to do with this, or Amazon gift cards in general. It looks more like a coordinated attack on someone rather than a legitimate scam accusation.


In other words you have no proof.

LOL of course it was...

Although now that I think of it, hacking and posting this type of "news" instead of the usual "you've been pwned hahaha" might be more effective in spreading panic.

From the technical standpoint, this might mean that it was not the server but some user's (who has access to post news on that site) PC that was hacked.

That is if we were to believe there was a hack and not someone accidentally spilling Putin's plans

I don't know if this is some next-level trollfuckery - even though it's on an official government site - but I guess it's been nice knowing you all.

https://www.mchsmedia.ru/news/item/6660556/



(emphasis mine)

Edit - site seems to be down. Not sure what this means. No retaliatory strike? No initial strike?

Projecting their totalitarian mindset on the rest of the world. They can't imagine that someone criticizing the president is not in prison.


Except many videos of Ukrainian forces show them speaking Russian... go figure. Maybe it's not forbidden and you just made it up.


It's kinda hard to notice "rallies" when people get arrested for holding a blank piece of paper.

Must be a tough day today at the troll farm if they had to dial the absurdity up all the way to 11.

Moving the goalposts. My statement was that Russian propaganda is blatantly lying (as opposed to "exaggerating") and this is one example of such.


Ok, I'll give you translation of "практически" as "almost", even though it's typical propaganda nonsense.


Whataboutism. Should I post that RT video now about "children with white skin"?


Straw man - I'm not talking about the definition of genocide. I'm talking about civilians being killed by Russian soldiers in occupied territories. Lots of proof of that, which Russian propaganda labelled as fake, up to and including drone videos and satellite photos, we've been through that. You can keep claiming it's fake but to any reasonable person it's reasonable evidence of killing civilians.

Looting has also been widely documented, including Russian soldiers shipping the "goods" home from Belarus.


Straw man. Also when everything is counted, Ukrainian civilian deaths are likely to be higher than that (20 thousand estimated dead in Mariupol alone), as if that somehow makes Russian propaganda more truthful  


A twofer - burden of proof / tu quoque. The Russian side presented a load of bullshit to put it mildly. There are plenty of fact checks on that, such as:

https://www.bbc.com/news/60711705


Mariupol.


That was on the 14th. Now it's confirmed: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3269904-pentagon-backs-ukraines-claim-it-hit-russian-warship-with-two-missiles/


You're going too far out of your way trying to justify for Russian propaganda lies. To me this seems more like an attempt to muddy the water than an attempt "to understand".

True bitcoiners would never praise totalitarian nutjobs, like you always do. Freedom used to be universally desired until your generation of intertubes-brainwashed zombies pretending that their incoherent ramblings matter more than facts.

Don't forget the Ukrainian postal service. They must have had a hand in this, timed it perfectly as a promotion for the postal stamp - can't be a coincidence

Seriously though, the ship was built in Ukraine and its defensive stuff is similar to the ground systems used by Ukraine (e.g. C300) so I wouldn't overestimate the US "help"... albeit some satellite and Global Hawk surveillance probably helped.

Edit - some unconfirmed pictures are showing up on twitface: https://twitter.com/osinttechnical

Not that there was any doubt about the "storm" and "waves" that sank it but yeah... there is no storm. Just cloudy.

Have you even bothered to check where "Melitopol, Ukraine" is and why they take rubles?

They locked down Wuhan early on. Foreign travel was severely restricted. I don't think anything really changed, they always had the intent to contain it completely.


I can't argue that it's sensible - most of the actions of the Chinese government don't make sense to me, and starving their citizens is definitely one of those things.

But the immunity levels are most likely very different between China and the West where almost everyone had some strain of COVID.

That it is. Russian forces destroyed the city and killed 20+ thousand civilians - Russian-speaking Donbas residents - so that they could claim to have "taken" it. Русский мир.

One small problem:


So... not really "taken"?

Finland is moving its defensive forces to the border with Russia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN7K4XP_f_I

I took a peek against my better judgement. The drone cam (or at least that's what I think the shaky-spinny footage was) makes me queasy... why move it around so much, looks like some kid's tiktok. Other than that, decent high school football.