For $651~ you could of got yourself a shiny whole bitcoin on coinbase plus their $6.66 fee.
I wouldnt of mind paying this fee on top regardless.
Even if they were asking 10% of the purchase amount at the time which is probably more by now.

Sure. Asicequipment.com They have refreshed the shopping positions recently

Well, I still have some. UBIT.PW, SCRIBE's official site, disappeared somehow since a few weeks ago and the new tryings to trade SCRIBE are not very happy.
SCRIBE has at the moment a total coin supply of around 6 million SCRIBE. The name is beautiful, but the coin never entered to the wall of fame of CoinMarketCap.
And yes, there are other high hopes out there: Bitcoin One, BitGreen, XLN, Solaris, Galactrum ...  

https://explorer.scribe.network/network

I can sell you 1000 SCRIBE for 0.1 BTC 

The worst time to dump is during a bear market. All sorts of altcoins will probably start pumping next year as bitcoin heads to an ATH. Ir's what happened before bitcoin's last ATH.

You believe that honey badger bitcoin gives any ratt's asses about newbies and/or the extent to which whales attempt to manipulate it?


I doubt it.  the market is going to do what they are going to do, and manipulators are going to manipulate as much as they are able to accomplish and attempt to shake as many coins as they are able to shake out of the trees, whether those are newbie trees or other dumb money... If they are able to shake, then manipulators are going to do it (or at least die trying).

So let's stop trying to be proscriptive about bitcoin.. It is what it is.  

Big block nutjobs, bitcoin naysayers, alt coin pumpers, FUD spreaders and no coiners spout out these kinds of nonsensical attempts to assert their wishes upon bitcoin, such as bitcoin should be more stable, blah blah blah, rather than accepting bitcoin for what it is, which is volatile as fuck... and bitcoin is likely to continue to be volatile as fuck until it reaches such a large market cap that it becomes way too difficult to manipulate.  Perhaps we need another 1000x of market cap growth, but even that might not be enough... so we should learn to accept bitcoin for what it is, and one of the most certain things about bitcoin is that it is going to continue to be volatile and to perform in directions that are sometimes beyond expectations in one direction or another.


Yeah... but it is negative to complain about something that you cannot change and even to focus on it as if there should be attempts to change it, when it is an intrinsic part of such an immature market that only has less than 1%  adoption of the world's population.


Mainstream is going to come when it is going to come.  There is no need to either rush mainstream  or to expect that bitcoin has to pander to attempting to getting mainstream.  Again, that sounds like one of those dumbass bcasher talking points.  Trying to make bitcoin into something before the market is even ready for it.  



Maybe you are getting too obsessed about unit price?  Who cares?  People will get in when they get in, and they are not going to necessarily be disadvantaged by coming in later, even though they would have made more money to come in earlier

The gist of the matter is that earlier adopters, such as peeps already getting into bitcoin, are going to advantage more than later adopters, but that is just the way things work, and you cannot force later adopters to become early adopters because they have to decide for themselves when they are going to get in and if they are going to get in under the terms that are presented before them.  Most of the people have no fucking clue what bitcoin is, even if they have heard the name.  And, even people who know more about bitcoin are frequently scared little chicken shits and afraid to buy because they think the price is too high.  Well, if they choose not to buy now, then they are likely going to have to buy later when the price is higher.  It is their choice whether to attempt to learn about it or to take some risks in order to invest early.

Of course, early investors take more risk, but they get more rewards too..... Later investors will come when the risk becomes less, but they are not going to get as many rewards, either because by the time that the vast majority of peeps start to feel comfortable with bitcoin, then it is not going to be appreciating in the same kind of way that it is now, even though it tends to take several years for up/down cycles to play out in such a way that the HODLers are damned likely to profit immensely as long as they don't allow their selfies to get shaken out by the noise, manipulation, FUD and other extremes that cause considerable price movements.




Who cares?  If an ETF comes, then it comes, if it doesn't then it doesn't.  Bitcoin is going to appreciate in price and development and even in stability whether an ETF comes or not.

Sure an ETF would likely cause BTC's price to appreciate a whole hell of a lot faster, but largely it does not matter because we are likely to be rich whether ETF or no ETF as long as we continue to HODL and not get shaken out of our coins.



You are complaining about something that cannot really be controlled, and seems to me to be a waste of energy to either be focusing on such matters or even hoping that bitcoin would evolve in a direction that it is not going to evolve... worse yet would be to try to work in a direction to force bitcoin to become more stable when bitcoin is good as it is and good as a creature of the free market.


Well, you seem to be describing dumb money and weak hands, and you can hardly stop from having dummies and weak hands, they are part of any free and open market.

Furthermore bitcoin is one of the most open markets, so it is much easier to enter and much easier for dumb money and weak hands to enter.  They will either learn or they may have to come back later after getting over their butt hurtness..... There are ways to figure out strategies, and we already know a lot of good strategies for newbies, and some will learn the strategies, and others will get burned... that is the way of the world.. I don't see any need to put in better protections, and surely I make my own attempts to educate all peeps about good strategies, whether they are smart or dumb and whether they are newbies or not, so the better information is available for anyone who attempt to spend some time to learn rather than listening to scammers and making dumb investment moves.



I am right that you are overly negative.  Adoption is going to come, even if the earlier days tend to be brutal, and good or bad, we still seem to be experiencing very early days that will allow a lot of new entrants to profit enormously as long as they try to learn good strategies and don't try to rush and make too many dumb moves.  Every newbie is going to make some mistakes along the way, but it is possible to learn along the way, too, and to just continue to HODL and accumulate and don't invest more than you can lose, and after several years, they are likely going to do quite well by exercising some persistence in their strategies and their continued attempts to learn along the way.

Can we swipe?
I will be happy with half of your stash. 🤪

Please give me the one on the right 🙂

Well I think you're wrong because you forget they're implementing Mimble Wimble with the Beam team above LTC!

Frequently, you are such a negative nancy, searing.

Experienced bitcoiners realize that volatility is a part of bitcoin, and chances for actual meaningful or long lasting "stability" is mostly a fantasy, and not part of bitcoin's underlying situation - which happens to be at some early stage of an exponential s-curve adoption.

Newbies can dollar cost average or buy and hold for the long term.  They should also be capable to look at charts in order to recognize bitcoin for what it is - a volatile beast - without getting their hopes up higher than they need to be by investing an amount that does not cause them too much anxiety - and DCA should be able to help with that, too.

Halving will have a big influence on Litecoin prices, therefore this is a very good opportunity for you if you want to invest in Litecoin.

Hot bed for manipulation at the moment. So many clueless day traders getting burnt I reckon.
Can you imagine being a Localbitcoins day trader in the current market -

‘Buy in the morning from an exchange’
‘Quick....list for sale on LBC for 5% above market value’
‘OH FUCKKKKK, the price has dumped $1,000’

Fujicoin is still not accessible on Yobit. Also just got an email that it's being delisted on Bleutrade. There are currently no viable exchanges this coin is listed on.

These two are legit:

https://asicminermarket.com/product/dayun-z1pro-13gh-s-miner/
https://www.akminer.com/all-products/dayun-z1-pro-ship-before-6th-july

I agree with you, but still I thought it is probably impossible to increase the supply because you would have to convince the miners. That's unlikely since they would have to undermine their own business to some degree.