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2081  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: (CCMS) Spreading Malicios in guise of Utopia on: January 19, 2023, 10:16:27 PM
I'll open my post by saying that my statements below are all made on the base of assumption because I can't... won't check my theory to cross the t and dot the i, as I've turned off my laptop and it's quite dreadful for me to turn it back on just to check this theory on my mind. I had to rely on my phone and tablet... which, unfortunately, seems has a very different version from windows, given the screenshot provided by dozens of people on their ANN thread compared to what I see on my screen.

So treat this as a draft of my theory which I'll check tomorrow, anyone else is also welcome to weight in this theory, though.

So, in spite of --presumably-- different UI for android and windows, their website still say the same things cross platform, where one page said this:

[...]
Promo Report

Decentralized networks depend on users for stability and performance. As a result, public awareness of Utopia is the key to success. We need your enthusiastic support and will reward your efforts aimed at building a favorable image of Utopia and increasing its user base.

Here is what to do:

Use message boards, create videos, promote in real life among your friends, or unconventionally approach this. As a general rule, there is no limit to your creativity as long as it is beneficial for Utopia. Please make sure that you understand Utopia before promoting it.

You are encouraged to use the advantages of Utopia listed below in your promos:
[...]

I think, what CCMS tried to achieve is a reward for promotion by inviting a lot of people to their channel, thus the alternative website --to ensure they joined their channel through the link-- the "Don't have Utopia yet? Install it now!" and a tempting message that the group is for giveaways, which can only be accessed from "View in UTOPIA". Airdrop hunter on this forum who are yet to know Utopia would be tempted to join the channel --and by it, CCMS successfully increasing Utopia user base.

If my assumption is correct, I think it's a good strategy, and I'm not judging if it's right or wrong nor knowing if it violate Utopia's rule.

As for the malicious warning, as there's only one security vendor flagged it as malicious, I think it's probably a false positive, with the reason of the flag indicated on this picture


[tried to reupload with a box to show what I tried to point out, but the image was too blurry, if it's unreadable, it said "multiple redirect"]
2082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The DAO that changes Art in crypto forever. (deflationary, 1st mint) on: January 19, 2023, 07:02:26 PM
I think you are being a little bit too narrow minded here. I can think of many possible use cases.
The goal of our DAO is to explore and fund improvements for the NFT space, sometimes directly proposed by artists.
Our task in phase one of the project is bringing artists, art enthusiasts, marketers and dapp professionals on one table and gather a starting fund for the DAO - so we are more than on time Wink

I am not saying we already have a solution for everything, but I think together with our artists, participants and partners we have a pretty good chance of making a difference.

ONLY 16 NFTs  LEFT IN PHASE ONE! GET YOURS NOW https://www.Mint.WholsEmily.com (<10$, price in next stage will be 5x this price).

I'd say it's more like... I'm fumbling in the dark, trying to grasp what you proposed. Maybe it'll be best to rest for now and just wait for your WP where a detailed explanation and plans and visions are served.
2083  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BOUNTY NBA CLUB offers daily profits, is this a ponzi scheme in the form of NFT? on: January 19, 2023, 06:59:32 PM
Just... curious, are you familiar with ponzi scheme? If you don't, allow me to serve you a snippet of what wiki said about this invention by Charles Ponzi,

A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.

Yes, you got paid as you're one of the early investors, but sooner or later their fund reservoir will come to an end, or they thought they've got enough funds from those paying investors, so they ran with the money.

If I may give a friendly advice dear, maybe you want to stop with this "they're paying, I have proof" charade, lest people think you're supporting them --which, if we may be honest, in a way, you are-- and you got dragged into the mud.
Dude, you may not have read my post above. In any case, I do not support them and I do not know their project or the team behind this project. And yes, their project is a Ponzi project, as I mentioned earlier. There is no doubt about that, and these are the proofs of payment that I shared. It is just proof that they paid me, but it is not proof that they are honest.

Frankly, their website seems suspicious and there is not enough information about the project team and the source of these weekly and monthly profits. Therefore, it could be a scam Ponzi project that pays these small amounts at the beginning to lure people.

Yes, but keep posting your payment proofs [it's plural] would gave people idea that they're --still-- paying. If I may be nosy, what's the reason behind these payment proof anyway? To show that they're still paying up to this day? And what exactly do you think would happen and what newbies would think when they saw those payment proof? Exactly?


I call this a fool's statement. As I've stated several times accross this forum, just because you put a disclaimer at the end of your post that you're just managing someone's project, it doesn't mean you shouldn't be held responsible to a degree if the project you managed turned south.

You accepted the job, you're the one introduced the project into the community, you're the first layer of security of this forum against scammers. You should at least do a preliminary DD and see how credible the project is before introducing and managing it, and if they have red flags yet you accepted it, you should take a share in responsibility if the project is a scam.

If just by writing a disclaimer then you're free of any consequences, then what's so difficult about being a BM? Why can't I --or someone else-- just made a pure BS project with fake team and all the red flags, promote it on this forum and wrote my disclaimer saying --and lying-- that I'm just a BM, not part of the team, then I'll be free from all of the consequences.

A good BM always do their own DD.
Your words are somewhat logical, it is clear that the BM did not know whether the project was a scam or not before he managed its bounty on this forum, because after he saw this topic against the NBA CLUB project, he immediately closed the bounty topic to prevent new participants from joining, I do not know the manager of this bounty personally, but I hope that he does not repeat this mistake again and that he does his research in order to preserve his reputation. As you mentioned, disclaiming responsibility is not alone enough to clear himself. Thank you for the clarification  Smiley


Your post just made it worse for the BM in question, because it gave an impression that the BM just blindly accepted the job without even looking for every single aspect he can, while the banner I quoted on my first post on this thread clearly shows a red flag.

Dozens of BM out there --good and examplary BM-- took their time to consider accepting the job. I know one by name --which I won't mention here-- that reads all of their WP and check team background prior to accepting. I also know one who check their participants post, every single one of them, made a note on what to improve and even made a demographic of their post spreads on the forum boards --again, not mentioning name, but I'm still very much impressed by that work-- to ensure that the project he managed reached as much visibility as it can get. And that is how people should manage bounty.

Just saying.



Anyway, I'm not trying to be your enemy here. Like I said previously, it was a friendly warning; stop posting payment proof as people could be misled by those screenshots.
2084  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BOUNTY NBA CLUB offers daily profits, is this a ponzi scheme in the form of NFT? on: January 19, 2023, 06:03:33 PM
As long as they paid, we cannot say that they are scammers, them APY activity is suspicious, and therefore it is an unsafe investment or closer to Ponzi project, but what puzzles me is, does this NFTs have value outside their site?
True, there is no evidence of their scam, yes their APY activity looks suspicious, and everyone who wants to invest in their project should do his own research, they have a collection of monkeys NFTs on Opensea and the NFT floor price is equal to 0.0041BNB /1.19USD

Check out: https://opensea.io/collection/nba-apes-star-club

You mentioned the phrase several days, so claiming to be able to earn 1% daily on every $20 NFT is a marketing ploy?
Through the free NFT, they sent me, which they said was worth $20, which gives me 1% Perday, I was able to get $0.10 of daily revenue, I collected $0.50 in five days, and I was able to withdraw them, as I said earlier.

Today I will try to withdraw 0.50 USDT again, After I reach the minimum withdrawal limit, I will edit this post and put a screenshot of the withdrawal proof.

#Edited:


Just... curious, are you familiar with ponzi scheme? If you don't, allow me to serve you a snippet of what wiki said about this invention by Charles Ponzi,

A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.

Yes, you got paid as you're one of the early investors, but sooner or later their fund reservoir will come to an end, or they thought they've got enough funds from those paying investors, so they ran with the money.

If I may give a friendly advice dear, maybe you want to stop with this "they're paying, I have proof" charade, lest people think you're supporting them --which, if we may be honest, in a way, you are-- and you got dragged into the mud.

We cannot blame the participants in the campaign and we cannot prove that it was a scam.
Yes, even the manager of the Bounty, we also cannot blame him, as he wrote at the end of the Bounty topic the disclaims his responsibility, so everyone who participates in any Bounty or invests in any project must be careful and conduct his own research, and if there is no conclusive proof, then I support the well-known legal doctrine of presumed innocent until proved guilty.

I call this a fool's statement. As I've stated several times accross this forum, just because you put a disclaimer at the end of your post that you're just managing someone's project, it doesn't mean you shouldn't be held responsible to a degree if the project you managed turned south.

You accepted the job, you're the one introduced the project into the community, you're the first layer of security of this forum against scammers. You should at least do a preliminary DD and see how credible the project is before introducing and managing it, and if they have red flags yet you accepted it, you should take a share in responsibility if the project is a scam.

If just by writing a disclaimer then you're free of any consequences, then what's so difficult about being a BM? Why can't I --or someone else-- just made a pure BS project with fake team and all the red flags, promote it on this forum and wrote my disclaimer saying --and lying-- that I'm just a BM, not part of the team, then I'll be free from all of the consequences.

A good BM always do their own DD.
2085  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BOUNTY NBA CLUB offers daily profits, is this a ponzi scheme in the form of NFT? on: January 18, 2023, 10:39:23 PM
First of all I want to inform that I have locked bounty Thread and moved to archived and stopped bounty. I worked with same kind of other project for three which is till alive. This project was totally free and I told all Hunters to just claim free Nft and always disconnect your metamask after every claim. There are so many bounties which totally scammed not only hunters but they scam Investor but not tag so far.
No bounty Hunter invested any cents here so kindly remove tag and next time I will be more careful and will ask senior before launching any compaign.

I'm a bit piqued by your claim that you're currently working with three same projects --which still live-- because peeking at your thread history, I can only find one. True, you have three threads, but they're all coming from the same project, NBA APE. I even peeked at your telegram channel and didn't find other projects that could help us determine if you put some effort on conducting DD before accepting the job or just blindly accept them. I asked because if we have to rely on this one project, it's almost clear you couldn't bother to consider if the project would be a money grab or not because IMO, this banner only should be enough to raise your suspicion:


[Source:https://archive.ph/L4zH6]

yet you accepted the job.

I'm not leaving you with negative or neutral because I think you deserve a second chance and a benefit of doubts --also, you should be glad nutildah's tag is neutral instead of negative-- but next time you accepted BM job and it has several red flags again, well...

Oh, by the way, it's not "senior" duty to help you determine if a project is good or not. You're the one applying for a job to manage their bounty, not them. It should be you who run the initial DD instead of asking for senior's opinion for future campaign.
2086  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Probably Account sold (Texac) on: January 18, 2023, 06:13:31 PM
It made me clear it is a bough account and now spamming.
Since majority of his posts are in Russian, it would be good if someone native Russian speaker checks his post history and see if there is significant change in posting style. Another thing, I don't see any change of email address and to me is unlikely that the new owner wouldn't change it as the old one could easily overtake the account.

I personally would like to see more evidence before neg tagging.



The email is not changed, but the password did. They're just clever enough to let it sat for a while so forum's internal system didn't mark it on their trust page. Unfortunately, BPIP did, happened roughly last month, on 13 Dec 2022.



As for the change of ownership, I am somewhat believed this is the case too. Going back through just three pages of their post history, I found they enrolled on several campaigns and safe to assume they're well versed on bounty hunting, it's quite strange for them to ask as such [translated by google]:

Ктo-нибyдь мoжeт cкaзaть мнe, кaк пpиcoeдинитьcя к этoй кaмпaнии?


translated


Can anyone tell me how to join this campaign?

There's no proof in the change of post quality yet as they just made three posts since the password change --and presumably the change of owership-- but the writing style is somewhat changed. After flipping through their posts, both in the Cyrillic and the Latin, I see that the OP used to wrote neatly in one paragraph, like this one I randomly took,

what's going on with this project?  Is it developing or can you forget about investments?  the token failed so much that I lost almost everything.  at least, there is not even a normal exchange.

His latest though, separate each sentence with a space,

eh, what makes you think I bought this account?

I just need money and want to join campaign.

By the way, can anyone tell me how to join this campaign?

As for tagging with negative... I also think it's better to wait and see if the account shows a drastic decrease in post quality or shows any other signs of detrimental actions.
2087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The DAO that changes Art in crypto forever. (deflationary, 1st mint) on: January 18, 2023, 04:57:00 PM
Yes, I totally get your point. We will change the formulation on our website as it is misleading in this point.
In my opinion, not speaking as part of the project, some points are however unique an new to NFT space.
I did not hear about a platform that enables artists to rent out masterpieces to exhibitons or a museum for example without having to use like 5 different servic/dapps all in one.


One thing I can say for sure, the Art community in the crypto space is in need of a platform that takes the wishes of creators seriously and actually implements them.


The WhoIsEmily DAO has one goal above all others: to create a platform where hobby painters and professionals can present, rent out and transfer their work.

I have great trust in our dev team, if we can iron out the occasional misunderstandings in communication (like above) the result will be an amazing platform and a strong DAO .

[...]

Oh, as for the renting your masterpieces to museum or exhibition --this part must have slipped my mind before-- you're talking about a "real" art, right? You facilitate someone to ask artists to draw beautiful mountain shrouded by mist, painted in a sombre tone or a meadow so green that it's like heaven, a small silhouette of lone tree in the distance. Not a... cartoonish monkey with red hat and sunglasses and a joint on its mouth. What I tried to say is, your platform offered a service if "real" art instead of those... NFT images that's... absurd --not in the way of abstract-ism of an art branch-- right?
2088  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅🍅 wintomato.com 🍅Dice 🍅 Slots 🍅 Sport Betting on: January 18, 2023, 04:41:00 PM
Regarding this case, firstly I want to point out that this was sport betting case, we really had dispute with this person, and ground for dispute was from risk management team and bookmaking provider; The dispute was not about payment or installment, but about canceled bet games, some sports events bets were canceled , and out risk management team acted based on the best practice used on the market;

Since the case is closed we I'm disallowed to disclose further details about this case;

Yes, no body says the original dispute is about non-payment --unless you put non-payment and confiscating fund in a similar term-- or installments --although you did pay on installments--, it's about what the user being accused on the first place.

And true that the root of the accusation is the user got their bet cancelled. But for what exact reason? On their accusation thread, you initially stated that they're banned for value betting, and then on the next post it was an arbitrage, which I've stated here is quite a different things. Only after being pushed by several DT members you discussed things internally with them through private channel and ultimately agreed to refund with one clause on the agreement is for the user to never say anything about the condition.

So what is it exactly?

I know the case is closed, but if I may give my two cents, it might be on your best interest to give a transparency on this case as it'll only works in your favor. One, you'll be able to remove negative tag left by a DT, and two, you'll gain more confidence from your potential users.

As for the installment, as I am sure you're aware, every post on this forum is automatically archived by several platforms. Users may remove their post, but there's still permanent record of what they said,

I will do that once I have received the last payment from them, probably in a week or 2.

Is this not an installment, then?
2089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The DAO that changes Art in crypto forever. (deflationary, 1st mint ever) on: January 18, 2023, 12:44:16 PM
I once again excuse for the delay in answering your questions - I had a quick call with one of our devs an I can give you some concrete answers on your questions now.

As stated on our website, the goal of the WhoIsEmily project is to reimagine and improve the way Art is exhibited, transferred and created on blockchains.
The $EMILY Artwork NFT is a key that guarantees the wallet that has minted it a right to vote on financial and organisational matters in the DAO. Furthermore the owners of a Genesis $EMELY NFT will enjoy special privileges like the possibility to take part in digital and real life art exhibitions - decentralised art auctions and view together events are also planned.
DAO treasury is funded with a third of all the initial sales. In perpetuity, one-third of all the secondary market revenue is also directed toward the treasury.
This constellation will constantly improve the symbiosis between Art and the blockchain.

Thats where peppermint labs comes in. They provide us with their own NFT solutions that will take the NFT capabilities of our DAO members to the next level.
In this article there is a preview of which functions are planned and in development: https://www.whoisemily.com/post/future-ecosystem.

A good example for functions  a NFT showroom  should have:
Direct negotiation module for the contact with collectors, museums, and art galleries around the world (in development).


Peppermint Labs is experienced in working with NFT creators around the world, so far they provided the tech in the following NFT collections:

AdaArmy
Splitworld NFT
Raison D'etre
Ted Nation
Beast Boy Club
LoveLaceClub
Degen Bunnies
Ugly Bros
Phoenix Arena NFT
Clayaveras
Unbothered Wolves
Bluelist CNFT
Freaky Snakes
KWIC
Yummy Cupcakes (edited)
and many more...

My statement from the last post was not completely incorrect but unacceptably inaccurate, that's why I have removed it.

This blog entry lines out why you should definitely one of the $Emely NFTs by showing what you miss out if you don't: https://www.whoisemily.com/post/emilydao

Unfortunately I am not allowed to give out any more informations than we already have released on our website at the moment, but I can say that there are exciting times ahead for NFT enthusiasts.

I think it is safe to say we're on a different page of peppermint labs, and as I am currently swamped, I don't have time in my hand to look for it deeper, or about the reputation of the projects collaborating with them as you've listed for us. I'm shelving this matter for now, though, for a more intriguing matter.

The statement of special privileges in form of taking part in real life art exhibitions and decentralised art auctions, wouldn't it raise concerns such as cases in the past like An A.I.-Generated Picture Won an Art Prize. Artists Aren’t Happy or the most recent one, although "less controversial", Man Posts Photo Of Children's Book Co-Written By AI, Internet Divided?

In my personal opinion, ethical wise, coming from someone whom cantaloupe drawing can be very easily mistaken as a mishaped volleyball or... a surreal-sphere-shaped-interdimension-hole-that-expresses-the-artist's-protest-against-over-popullation, it's not fair that an AI generated image --or for your case, suppose you're different from deepai or midjourney as the art will be produced by artists instead of AI-- or a work done by someone can be claimed and auctioned as if it's the owner's own effort.
2090  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅🍅 wintomato.com 🍅Dice 🍅 Slots 🍅 Sport Betting on: January 17, 2023, 06:58:27 PM
Hello,

Thanks for your feedback, we take no percentage, the rate depends on the game provider;

Regarding the review I must disagree with you; We took bad review from the players who gained fund through bugs or other restricted actions and its quite logical;

No solid player had any bad review about us;

You can register and admin will provide some fund and you can test the games;


Regarding this matter, it is quite interesting to point out that we're left in the dark for the truth behind the latest case here. Assuming your statement above is the truth and the accuser gained their fund through bugs and restricted accounts, why do you agree to do a refund? And more importantly, why does the amount due was paid in installment?

In my opinion, if they're caught cheating, you wouldn't bother to refund. Which you do. Which imply they're on the right side. My second opinion, is that you're a... well, I don't want to sound rude, but the matter I asked is boiled down into: why do such a big gambling platform needs to install 29K usd --which probably even less than that amount, given the accuser said you both reached an agreement, which implies you both meets each other in the middle?

Oh, almost forgot, why do the term of the deal with the said person is an NDA?

I'm not accusing you --at least didn't mean to deliberately do that-- what I want to know is, if you claimed as stated on the quoted text above, can you shed some light for the matter? As up to this point it remains unclear. Solved, but unclear.
2091  Economy / Gambling / Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos! on: January 17, 2023, 04:17:18 PM
Hello, everyone.

It's Carlos. I'm here to provide another update.

[...]

I just want to finish this, and start promoting once all these concerns are cleared and have been explained.

Thank you and apologies for the late response.

-Carlos


Hi, on this thread alone, it's been three times1 2 3 that an inquiry about the allegation of fake ID is addressed to you and I see you're still yet to explain or say anything about it. Please don't let this post be the fourth time.

I am yet to conduct my own research of this real ID --as in the real owner of the said ID-- but I tried to give a benefit of doubt by considering that the case is the opposite of what we thought; that it is the real estate who used your ID. But a preliminary research shows its kinda impossible, given their website is published long before yours.

2092  Economy / Gambling / Re: OLE777 - Join Us For New And Exciting Promos! on: January 16, 2023, 07:28:39 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433377.new

My official scam accusation thread is here. You know you are just a bunch of lying crooks, I told you I would destroy your reputation if you didn't pay me.

I'd like to jump in after simply being spectator for the cases for a while. And as their officials are yet to address any of the accusation threads announced here, I'll address the issue here where OP seems more likely to respond than on the other threads.

For Ptolemys there any chance you can provide this pieces of evidence asked previously? It'll help us greatly to measure the allegations, since --as I am aware-- none of the users with recent issues could provide their confiscated balance. Although, it is quite understandable that no one --well, not normal people-- would randomly take screenshot of their balance, unknowing that the next time they try logging in, they're locked away from their account.

[...]
Although, I agree, it would be even more helpful if there were additional evidence, such as screenshots of the individual's balance or withdrawal page, to support the claim. It is also important to note that OLE777Official has not yet responded to that thread.



And OLE777Official, you have also yet to respond to this very serious allegation of fake ID. Please address this matter as soon as you read this thread.
2093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The DAO that changes Art in crypto forever. (deflationary, 1st mint ever) on: January 16, 2023, 06:42:02 PM
Hello,

thanks for your interest in §EMILY.
We are currently updating the whitepaper to a new design that fits our identity better.  I can message you as soon as the new white paper is uploaded, however our vision is also described at other places on our website.


Thank you for the offer, but that's not necessary, just announce it here and I'll let myself know as I'm now watching this thread

As I am only the community manager my technical understanding of what peppermint labs are doing is kind of limited to more general terms:

Peppermint Labs is developing the "NFT Marketplace/ Exhibition Room. But it is not a marketplace like there are already thousands out there, no, they are developing something special.
We are partnering with them in order to offer a unique way to present self-made NFTs to our DAO members.  As described in the "benefits for token holders" section, regular online and real life exhibitions will be a big part of the $EMILY project. Our friends at peppermint labs are always discovering new and never seen before ways to interact with things that are known to all of us (for example NFT marketplaces).
I can guarantee you that this marketplace they are working on won't be even remotely comparable to anything you know.

They describe it like this:

This project is an interactive NFT framework meant for cultural institutions holding artist events.
The code is broken into a few projects, all orchestrated with docker-compose for simplicity.

(...)

The front-end webapp is configured for an interactive NFT event where attendees are given a blank canvas
to draw on, title, and describe.  The artist then receives these works and continues them, with ability
to modify final title and description.
Both attendee and artist are considered to be the creator of the asset, while the attendee receives the NFT
The front-end webapp could easily be modified to support a number of interactive art exhibit use cases such
as allowing an attendee to choose a pre-existing artwork from the artist for them to add their autograph to.

... read more here: https://gitlab.com/art-by-city/interactive-nfts


I hope that helps Smiley

For Peppermint Labs, perhaps I am accessing a different website than what you intended to show us. Can you share us a link to this platform so we can know better what's the platform and the products they're offering is about? The link you shared to us to read more is leading us to "artby.city" instead of peppermint labs.

As for the project itself, didn't mean to be rude, simply curious, wouldn't it be not too much different than those AI Image generator like this for example? Can you tell us more the key differences of what you offered with the existing platforms?
2094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The DAO that changes Art in crypto forever. (deflationary, 1st mint ever) on: January 16, 2023, 04:22:26 PM
Your whitepaper is not accessible yet, why is that?

I'm also interested to know more about this statement,

Not only will Emily holders receive an exclusive Syndicate membership pass but will also unlock private access to the ecosystem of products from Peppermint Labs. Do not trust us? Trust the [sic]

I'll be honest and say that I've never heard about peppermint labs before, so I'm not familiar with it, but are you referring to this platform? A help desk?
2095  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Lost coins due to KRAKEN's error. KRAKEN offered 1/10th in fee credits on: January 16, 2023, 03:56:09 PM
I don't think they have an account here on this forum so they can be informed about this issue and hopefully expedite your case, do they? And can you provide screenshot of the said statements made by kraken's admin?

Given the frequency of this mixed up chains is quite a lot, Kraken should probably start considering to have some pool to reimburse the fund immediately with what they have from the reserved pool and whem they fixed these mix up --months later-- the fund they recovered would be placed back to the pool. It's almost ridiculous how their member has to suffer a lot of opportunity-lost from the price fluctuations while they tried to fix the problem that they've admitted as their mistake.
2096  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Potential SCAM :CryptoRop Enticing You To Deposit Money ON Exchange They Control on: January 14, 2023, 05:09:23 PM
After reading your post about the site, I had to go through the site myself but I am not really and truly convinced about your services. At first o noticed the registration process looks like as a just a way random scam sites do register just your email, password and verification code



I was reading the terms and conditions of Service here  chapter 3 (3.1) and I stumbled upon this. Do you mean before one can chat on the exchange platform one must have deposited up to a  five hundred dollars. That is what I really want to understand. Can you give us insight on it. As a registered member of the exchange it is nice one have access to the chat box but I would want you to come throw more light on this. This is not ok with me as I find it very awful to see that for one to chat, one must have had such amount deposited in their account. If I may ask you is the funds for chatting fee or what? How reliable is your exchange to say that you have such high benchmark for account holders to have deposited on their account with your exchange before chatting on your platform. Are you really serious about your exchange?

You misunderstood OP's whole post. This is not a service announcement thread, it's a scam accusation. The site is not OP's and they didn't offer their service. OP warns us about site mentioned on the opening post that's very likely a phising site, as proven by virustotal. So, it'll safe to assume if you deposit that sum of money to the said platform, you'll lose your money, and got phished.
2097  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammed by Trustdice (Account banned and money confiscated) on: January 14, 2023, 01:32:13 PM
Below is Coinbox1's reply in regards to the most recent development for the case. I'll gladly play an owl as they're seemingly stand by their words and refused to reply here.

Mr. holydarkness,

It is funny that you ask this now. Because right in the beginning you had been told exactly why we cannot publicly show such sensitive information.
Hi holydarkness,
[...]
However, kindly note that our updated internal policies forbid us from sharing such details in public forums, unless particularly authorized by our management and approved by the player. This is for both privacy and anti-abuse concerns. In fact, for the sake of open and transparent communication with Bitcointalk community, we had shared such details on the forum in the past, which did get us quite some compliments. However such transparency was later exploited by abusers who saw it.

So again, just so this is clear: We have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and countless hours developing mechanisms to combat abusers. By publicly showing these sensitive details as evidence, the abusers lurking for abuse opportunities will figure out ways to beat our mechanism. In fact, this has happened before and we had been burnt.

As how I've stated here, I have been weighting upon this decision for a while now as OP's activities and involvement on his case seems to became more and more sporadic, as well as how they seems to put less and less effort on their case, tilting the balance of the weight more towards the validity of decision made by AG.

To be honest, it was in my sincerest hope that bumping this thread by reposting OP's defense from other thread will sparks OP's activity, as that seeems to be not the situation here, it became less and less fair to keep the tag on Coinbox1.

Don't get me wrong here, I am still in my opinion that TD's actions toward resolving disputes are more in poor side, but I have to agree that --under these recent developments and situation where OP keeps being absent-- it is not fair to keep the tag, especially considering the above defense made by TD against providing evidences, as stated on the last part of the quoted post from them, is within the realm of reasonable.

As such, the tag will be changed to neutral to serve as a reminder for this case.
2098  Economy / Gambling / Re: TRUSTDICE: up to $25 FREE BONUS [NO DEPOSIT REQUIRED] Forum EXCLUSIVE! on: January 14, 2023, 11:52:10 AM
Mr. holydarkness,

It is funny that you ask this now. Because right in the beginning you had been told exactly why we cannot publicly show such sensitive information.
Hi holydarkness,
[...]
However, kindly note that our updated internal policies forbid us from sharing such details in public forums, unless particularly authorized by our management and approved by the player. This is for both privacy and anti-abuse concerns. In fact, for the sake of open and transparent communication with Bitcointalk community, we had shared such details on the forum in the past, which did get us quite some compliments. However such transparency was later exploited by abusers who saw it.

So again, just so this is clear: We have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and countless hours developing mechanisms to combat abusers. By publicly showing these sensitive details as evidence, the abusers lurking for abuse opportunities will figure out ways to beat our mechanism. In fact, this has happened before and we had been burnt.


Tbh, mister, we don't know why you are so obsessed with us. By refusing to update the feedback over a resolved case, you already made your reputation questionable.

By siding with a confirmed abuser according to AskGamblers and calling this most reputable gambling mediator "an arbitrary platform", you made your reputation further questionable.

And now, by pretending not knowing something that you'd been explained to in the very beginning, you are making your reputation more questionable than ever.

But after all, it is your life and your reputation at stake. So if this is how you'd love to spend your life, there is really not much we can do, and we can only wish you good luck with your life.

This is our last message to you Mr. holydarkness. Involving in this kind of conversation with you isn't in line with our code of conduct. We would appreciate if you can leave this thread alone to forum members who are genuinely interested in our product, but since this is a public forum in a free world, well, guess we can only hope.

We wish you happiness in your life.

Best,
TrustDice Team

Pardon me, I got notified that you replied me on this thread yesterday and was intended to reply you right away as I have been drafting and weighting my next action and reply toward that case for a while, even before you posted your latest reply, but I was catching myself up with certain case of a hacked issue on the neighboring thread --it's eleven pages that's quite heavy to digest-- and fell asleep right in the middle of the read. Let it be known to public that my mind and consideration was already made before you post your reply that's addressing and questioning my feedback, so that there's no future impression by you that I'm... obsessed with you, or with tagging you with negative feedback.

In fact, I initially have no intention to reply here and was planning to quote your post to the referenced thread based on the snippet of your answer from the notification that I got. But as it turns out your whole post has a chance of misleading people for my judgment --which I'll admit I played certain part on this misunderstanding--, I have to straighten one specific thing.

I'll divide your post into two parts where I'll post the snipped version --and more case centered-- into the more appropriate thread, and address the situation that's more general and had to be straightened out here, with the point in question marked in red.

Just so everybody is clear and there's no question for my standing for AG, as well as for future reference, when I said "arbitrary platform", i was meaning to say "arbitrator", with regards to this definition:

a person chosen to decide a dispute or settle differences, especially one formally empowered to examine the facts and decide the issue.

Not knowingly that there's a difference between the two terms. I owned my language barrier and stand corrected
2099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 📈 Boss Track 📈 - Track Your DeFi Portfolio Performance For Free! 💸 on: January 13, 2023, 12:09:43 AM
Can't help but being curios, does your platform also offers a tracking service for multiple address? For example, I have an metamask-based ERC wallet and then when trustwallet became a trend, I also have a wallet on TW, with some of my assets on MM still sitting there these days. Can I put both addresses on your plarform and simultaneously knows my entire assets on both wallet?

Sure thing, you can track multiple wallet addresses and switch between them easily. Once you add a wallet address it gets saved in your browser cookies so you don't have to go through the hassle of signing into your different web3 wallets just to see your portfolio's value.




Ahh, maybe I was a little bit unclear. Allow me to clarify using your attached picture. Is there a page that shows all of those assets on "Personal 1", "Shib #2" and "double up" into one?

So, suppose I have 3 eth and 20 BNB on "Personal 1", 50 eth, 3 BNB and 1,000 usdt on "Shivb #2", and 3 xrp on "double up", the "overview" --or whatever they're named-- page will shows:
- 53 eth
- 23 BNB
- 3 xrp
- 1,000 USDT

insread of having to select each wallet and look at the amount on the said wallet individually?
2100  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammed by Trustdice (Account banned and money confiscated) on: January 12, 2023, 07:28:22 PM
Quoting this post from OP's post on other thread to allow Coinbox1 to address their latest counter-defense

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And with Poika5 went AWOL, and TD refused to answer the defense on his last post
No, I just didn't want to deal with this during the holidays.

I dont know how can i prove that i didnt multi account, but i will try:
1. Im from a very small country and i bet on small/specific market, I would get caught/limited really fast if i tried to multi account.
2. Multi accounting was pointless because i had other alternatives, a few hours after i got limited on Trustdice i deposited money to Thunderpick.io, a site that uses the same sportprovider.

29. September, 100% limited from TrustDice.


29. September, Thunderpick.io deposit:

By the way, its been 3 months and my Thunderpick.io account is still not limited.


I got banned for 2 reasons:

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* we determine that you are acting in a manner that is detrimental to the conduct of our business;
Winning sports bettor = detrimental to Trustdice making money.

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or using the late bets strategy;

As we know Trustdice thinks that every live bet is a "late bet", and I placed 4 live NBA bets, because I still had to finish my 5x rollover(I was banned from Esports betting, so I could only bet on "normal sports").



Getting scammed feels awful, so here is a little bit of mental gymnastics:
They scammed 1700$ from me, but i helped Laki21000 get his 2100$ back.
So in a way banning me cost them 400$, which makes me happy.



Edit: to my BM, please disregard this post from my quota and consider it as an illegible post
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