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421  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: February 07, 2015, 02:06:48 PM
Dogie support for this product has now expired. Other staff will now service your queries in this thread. I can still be found in my own thread.

Why is support expired if miner is still being sold?

Sold and current ones still under warranty. Why? Because we are all getting the shaft. Turn around, bend over, here it comes. Apparently this is the way Bitmain want to operate these days. Be very careful when you all start ordering more products from this company. I'd rather spend the extra few bucks on a Spondoolie and get real warranty help no matter how long it has been. Not just suggestions and opinions.

422  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: February 07, 2015, 01:57:53 PM
Me and my dad bought several of these C1's and now almost all of them are having issues with the coolant leaking out of them because or the pressure. He cleaned our his entire loop, used new hoses and went for distiller water with silver kill coils and the [BOLD]VERY[/BOLD] clean loop sat over night running and then he unscrewed the fill top and liquid started spewimg out. There is now way algaue grows that fast, overnight. I just can't see that happening. There must be pin hole leaks in the system sucking in the air, creating pressure.

What the heck to do here? These are all fairly neew miner's, and maybe the 90  day warranty had A little part in this, while most are a year.

There must be something environmental going on for all 3 units to have exactly the same problem. If there was a pinhole leak then you wouldn't have any pressure build up either. Did you follow up the RMA offer?

Yea, they want us to ship everything out to them to Colorado at our cost. We are trying to keep what we spend on these so we can at least possibly get our return but if we are paying extraordinary shipping rates then what's the point? Legit companies usually pay for shipping on products in warranty.

All of our C1's are doing the same thing. We have no choice but to keep the fill top open due to pressure. It's not like just one of them is doing it either. 6 of them are doing it. That's not a coincidence, it is a fact there is a hardware issue here. Any coolant on the market should last at least 6 months before needing a cleaning. And I read others have to run their loops with the fill cap open too. So it's just not us having this problem. I'll gladly ship a unit to Colorado if BitmainWarranty wants to pay for shipping.
423  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: February 05, 2015, 03:05:22 AM
Me and my dad bought several of these C1's and now almost all of them are having issues with the coolant leaking out of them because or the pressure. He cleaned our his entire loop, used new hoses and went for distiller water with silver kill coils and the VERY clean loop sat over night running and then he unscrewed the fill top and liquid started spewimg out. There is now way algaue grows that fast, overnight. I just can't see that happening. There must be pin hole leaks in the system sucking in the air, creating pressure.

What the heck to do here? These are all fairly neew miner's, and maybe the 90  day warranty had A little part in this, while most are a year.


HELP
424  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: February 02, 2015, 07:04:07 PM
DO NOT buy the IRONSIDE coolant. I have algae growing in my god damn bottle and it is only several weeks old! The top has always been secure and out of sunlight. It should be removed from the suggestion of coolant to buy. My father's three C1's all have algae in his loop and he's going for plain old distilled water and silver. That coolant is horrible. Now he has to find something to clean out the inside of the radiator and C1 before putting it back together. He thought of bleach, but that's a corrosive really. There is that white algae film on the inside walls of everything, including the radiator.
425  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: February 02, 2015, 06:59:43 PM
Bought everything as a kit. I called the Colorado support facility and the guy said all he can do is have me ship my entire system over to them and they will find out what is wrong with it and fix, no matter what it is. So I lose a couple weeks mining, big deal, and have to pay to ship that and my cooling system to Colorado. Hey, at least their willing to help. What's BitmainWarranty going to do? They would have probably told me to do the same thing. Only thing that bothers me is having to pay shipping for an in warranty product. I'll remember that next time when wave of new hardware comes a along. Other companies provide you shipping labels.

WHAT IS OUR RADIATOR MADE OUT OF? THE ONE THAT CAME WITH THE KIT? ALUMINUM OR COPPER?

[BitmainWarranty is the Denver, Colorado centre, calling in is just a quicker way to contact them]. I think it is the best solution to return it now, as whatever stuff is growing in that loop will be all up inside those blocks as well. I'm here to see if we can help people remotely without having to ship stuff across a country / continent as then everyone loses out.

They usually do provide labels but I guess its a bit of a confusing situation for them - let me know after its all completed if you're still out of pocket and I'll try and get it sorted.


My guess is copper.  They have always been very careful to say to use coolant not water.  That and it looks a copper "PD360" on their site we got: http://www.syscooling.com/products/Radiators/54.html .   The two aluminum radiator's they show selling are much smaller then the one with kit.

I could be wrong if they used a specialty one for miners, but I'm highly guessing its their standard.

Yes, you have to assume its copper or there are copper components. In several points in the listings (all changed by now) there has been a mention of copper on both the radiator and the fittings [internal coating]. You can see within the chamber of the radiator that there is definitely some form of dark orange coating, which may be brass or copper. So tldr, be safe and assume there is copper and aluminium within the same loop.

Just so we know and question can be answered completely are you able to confirm with syscooling that it is their copper version that is used for the kit? Thank you in advance.
The radiator SC-BC1 watercooling kits uses is aluminum.PD360 radator is copper,only PD series radiator is copper.

Still confused. The kit comes with the PD360, which is copper. And you just said, "watercooling kits uses is aluminum".

426  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: February 01, 2015, 05:51:34 AM
I'm going for all the original. Distilled water and silver. What the hell do you think all the other stuff is? Some kind of liquid from another planet. It's all distilled water with additives in it. That's all it is. I changed my one rig already to distilled water and pure silver and for the first time there wasn't any pressure/gas in the loop. I read all the PC liquid cooling forums and all the experts rely on distilled water and silver or distilled water and what additives they thought were best. I will admit when I'm wrong, so if you see me back here in a few days with issues again I'll be sure to let you know. Have to try it to know it.

Just this very morning TWO of my father's C1's were leaking and doing the same exact thing that happened to mine. Soon as he opened up the fill hole, shit spewing up all over the place. And he always kept the fill hole closed %100 of the time. The only thing that's common here is that Ironside coolant that was recommended by Dogie in the first post. That crap sucks. We should have had 6 months at least with good coolant according  to Ironside. Apparently their biocide doesn't work and their product is crap.

And the saga continues....

100% this.

Always use distilled water (really cheap to buy a gallon at a local grocery store) and I highly recommend a silver kill strip:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11441/ex-tub-705/IandH_Silver_KillCoils_-_Antimicrobial_999_Fine_Silver_Tubing_Reservoir_Strip.html

I use that exact product in my water cooling loop in my desktop that has been running strong for almost a year now without getting any buildup/problems. Sorry to hear about the C1 problems, but you're right - distilled and silver.

That is exactly what I used. I was green to the liquid cooling world and all those expensive liquids are a big scam. Just like the same way I'm using a $10 HDMI cable with my TV right now and a sales guy wanted to sell me one that cost $89.99.
427  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: February 01, 2015, 05:43:47 AM
...
Man these SP20's are solid pieces of gear.

Thank you. You know where to vote  Grin

votes are up to 43 just did a pdf of the results
Seems to slow down.

makes sense in that their are only so many readers of the threads that will get you to the poll/survey. only one vote each.

at least one thing is the poll's numbers are consistent.  I took 20 pdfs along the way  and the % ratios matched  pretty well this is a very good indication that the voters were legit.  on monday I will  show the final numbers with a few pdfs along the way.   say 5 voters in 15 voters in 25 voters in 35 voters in then  final result.

Your very first 2 questions should be is "Which manufacture's of products do you own? And for number 2 "Have you used their support?"
428  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: February 01, 2015, 05:33:38 AM
I'm going for all the original. Distilled water and silver. What the hell do you think all the other stuff is? Some kind of liquid from another planet. It's all distilled water with additives in it. That's all it is. I changed my one rig already to distilled water and pure silver and for the first time there wasn't any pressure/gas in the loop. I read all the PC liquid cooling forums and all the experts rely on distilled water and silver or distilled water and what additives they thought were best. I will admit when I'm wrong, so if you see me back here in a few days with issues again I'll be sure to let you know. Have to try it to know it.

Just this very morning TWO of my father's C1's were leaking and doing the same exact thing that happened to mine. Soon as he opened up the fill hole, shit spewing up all over the place. And he always kept the fill hole closed %100 of the time. The only thing that's common here is that Ironside coolant that was recommended by Dogie in the first post. That crap sucks. We should have had 6 months at least with good coolant according  to Ironside. Apparently their biocide doesn't work and their product is crap.

And the saga continues....
429  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: January 30, 2015, 04:54:02 PM
My predictions, three months ago: Bitcoin TLV `14, #25 - Guy Corem - Mining Forecast
BitFury revealed their mining address two days afterwards. I didn't expect to see AntPool grow so much.
Let's see how the rest of my predictions will be in 2015. It was based of BTC value of $400

The rest of Inside Bitcoin TLV lectures can be found here: Inside Bitcoins Tel Aviv 2014t
I think that it was one of the best Inside Bitcoin conferences ever. Kudos to Meni Rosenfeld.

Updated?

General comments now Guy on what you think is going to happen in the next few months?
I believe I have good visibility, however I can't give specifics due to NDAs, investors relations, etc.

Guy

Bullcrap. Listen, if you are going to hide behind the NDAs and put yourself out of the community like that then don't even mention anything at all. This Bitcoin forum should be for all to collaborate and share information, once you start putting a hierarchy on who gets to know what then you are turning it right into the same financial system we have now and why a lot of people are here. Suggestion, don't sign anymore NDAs so you don't have to say, "can't give specifics due to NDAs. This of course is my opinion.



I understand your frustration. However, in the normal course of doing business, you really need to sign NDAs.
Also, sometime the competitors, which with most of them I'm on friendly terms, tells you things and expect you to keep them confidential.
I can reveal only general stuff, and I did it more or less in the presentation.

Guy

Since you already said you are aware of information related to bitcoin you cannot disclose to the public, and other manufacturer's, investors, people who paid up, just will eventually turn this community into one big ponzi scheme and it will eventually tumble. Once the top hierarchy sucks all the money out of the peeons, then it falls. What we are getting are just bits and pieces of the bone you guys throw at us to keep us tagging along. If everyone knew how deep and wide some manufacture's pockets go they would be schickled shocked!

Come on bitcoin, RISE TO WHERE YOU ONCE CAME!
430  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: January 30, 2015, 04:45:00 PM
Have you ever considered in forming an alliance like OPEC to limit the hash rate race?  Wink  I just saw Bitfury said that their cloud service would only add hardware based on demand, is this a trend towards more cloud based service?
It's funny to read it from mega self miner.
No, it's illegal.

How is that illegal?  Smiley It is just a consensus (if it ever can be reached). Even pools can be allied together to protect against a faulty fork in 2013, and against potential 51% attack if it ever happens

Imagine a vendor that have leading semi-conductor process 10nm, he can limit his production scale at a certain level so that the network hash rate increase slowly. He then could start a cloud mining service and sell the hash power at market rate, which leaves him large margin to deal with market volatility. I think that is what Bitfury means




In the USA there is an antitrust law preventing companies from joining together to set / fix prices and supply. Its to promote fair competition for the consumers.

about that antitrust thing, why has it not kicked in for Warner bros. and Comcast? they are trying to stop this whole "class 2" act and monopolise the communication of the USA? they want you to pay for internet you are already paying for, "oh, we cant push youtube or netflicks down our pipe quick enough, they must pay for bigger pipes... hey customer, you can pay, you are already paying for our service, its their pipes which are to small"

*customer pays * *comcast flicks switch* *customer gets 720p videos*

How in the world was Comcast allowed to buy/merge or whatever with Time Warner? Just a few years before it was NBC/Universal. Comcast is literally eating up the entertainment world. And those are only the companies we hear about. Check this list out. I know some people call it capitalism, but it is the same thing regarding running %51 of the BTC network. We don't want that to happen and we don't want one comcast doing the same. Sorry for off topic but there was a bitcoin comparison in there.


NBCUniversal

Television
NBC Television Network
NBC Entertainment
NBC News
NBC Sport Group
Universal Television (UTV)
Universal Cable Productions
NBC Universal Domestic Television Distribution
NBCUniversal International Television Distribution

NBC Local Media Division
NBC New York (WNBC)
NBC Los Angeles (KNBC)
NBC Chicago (WMAQ)
NBC Philadelphia (WCAU)
NBC Bay Area (KNTV)
NBC Dallas/Fort Worth (KXAS)
NBC Washington (WRC)
NBC Miami (WTVJ)
NBC San Diego (KNSD)
NBC Connecticut (WVIT)
NBC Everywhere
LX TV
Skycastle Entertainment

Telemundo
KVEA (Los Angeles)
WNJU (New York)
WSCV (Miami)
KTMD (Houston)
WSNS (Chicago)
KXTX (Dallas/Fort Worth)
KVDA (San Antonio)
KSTS (San Francisco/San Jose)
KTAZ (Phoenix)
KNSO (Fresno)
KDEN (Denver)
KBLR (Las Vegas)
WNEU (Boston/Merrimack)
KHRR (Tucson)
WKAQ (Puerto Rico)
KWHY (Los Angeles) (Independent)

Television Channels
Bravo
Chiller
CNBC
CNBC World
Comcast Charter Sports Southeast
Comcast Sports Group
Comcast SportsNet Bay Area
Comcast SportsNet California
Comcast SportsNet Chicago
Comcast SportsNet Houston
Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic
Comcast SportsNet New England
Comcast SportsNet Northwest
Comcast SportsNet Philadelhpia
SNY
The Mtn.-Mountain West Sports Network
CSS
Comcast Sports Southwest
New England Cable News (Manages)
NBC Sports Network
The Comcast Network
E! Entertainment Television
G4
Golf Channel
MSNBC
mun2
Oxygen Media
Cloo
Sprout
The Style Network
Syfy
Universal HD
USA Network
The Weather Channel Companies
Syfy Universal (Universal Networks International)
Diva Universal (Universal Networks International)
Studio Universal (Universal Networks International)
Universal Channel (Universal Networks International)
13th Street Universal (Universal Networks International)
Movies 24 (Universal Networks International)
Hallmark Channel (non-U.S.) (Universal Networks International)
KidsCo (Interest) (Universal Networks International)

Film
Universal Pictures
Focus Features
Universal Studios Home Entertainment

Parks and Resorts
Universal Parks and Resorts

Digital Media
DailyCandy
Fandango
Hulu (32%)
iVillage
NBC.com
CNBC Digital
Plaxo

Communications
XFINITY TV
XFINITY Internet
XFINITY Voice

Sports Management
Comcast-Spectator
Philadelphia Flyers
Wells Fargo Center
Global Spectrum (Public Assembly Management)
Ovations Food Services
Front Row Marketing Services
Paciolan
New Era Tickets (ComcastTIX)
Flyers Skate Zone

Other
Comcast Ventures, which is invested in numerous companies.

And now onto Time Warner Cable:

Local channels
Time Warner Cable News

Regional Sports Networks
Metro Sports
Time Warner Cable Sports
Time Warner Cable SportsNet
Time Warner Cable Deportes
TWC Sports 32
SNY

Other
Adelphia — cable television company in PA
NaviSite — cloud and hosting services company
Insight Communications — cable operator
DukeNet Communications —Fiber optic network
Time Warner Cable Internet
Time Warner Cable Media (advertising)

Here are all of the cable regions Comcast will now acquire:

West Coast
California - Barstow, Desert Cities, Los Angeles, (north) San Diego, San Bernardino
Hawaii (Operating as Oceanic Time Warner Cable)

Midwest
Kansas - Kansas City
Missouri - Kansas City
Nebraska
Ohio - Akron, Canton, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Findlay/Lima, and Youngstown Kentucky - Lexington, Louisville, Northern Kentucky, Ashland
Pennsylvania - Erie County, Sharon
Wisconsin - Green Bay and Milwaukee

Northeast
Maine
New Hampshire - Berlin, Keene
Massachusetts - Athol, Pittsfield
Upstate New York

New York Cluster
New Jersey - Bergen County, Hudson County
New York - New York City (Manhattan, Queens, Staten Island, most of western Brooklyn), Mount Vernon (Westchester County, rest of county is Cablevision)

The Carolinas Cluster
North Carolina - Charlotte, Raleigh, Greensboro, and Wilmington
South Carolina - Columbia, Sumter, Florence, Summerville, Hilton Head and Myrtle Beach.

Texas Cluster
Texas - Arlington, Austin, Beaumont/Port Arthur, Corpus Christi, Dallas, El Paso, Harlingen, Killeen/Temple, Laredo, Rio Grande Valley, San Antonio, Waco, and Wichita Falls

National
Alabama - Dothan, Enterprise
Arizona - Yuma
California - El Centro
Colorado - Gunnison, Telluride
Idaho - Coeur d'Alene, Moscow
Indiana - Terre Haute
Virginia
Washington - Pullman

South West Ohio Division West Virginia - Clarksburg


431  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: January 30, 2015, 04:35:55 PM
Bought everything as a kit. I called the Colorado support facility and the guy said all he can do is have me ship my entire system over to them and they will find out what is wrong with it and fix, no matter what it is. So I lose a couple weeks mining, big deal, and have to pay to ship that and my cooling system to Colorado. Hey, at least their willing to help. What's BitmainWarranty going to do? They would have probably told me to do the same thing. Only thing that bothers me is having to pay shipping for an in warranty product. I'll remember that next time when wave of new hardware comes a along. Other companies provide you shipping labels.

WHAT IS OUR RADIATOR MADE OUT OF? THE ONE THAT CAME WITH THE KIT? ALUMINUM OR COPPER?

[BitmainWarranty is the Denver, Colorado centre, calling in is just a quicker way to contact them]. I think it is the best solution to return it now, as whatever stuff is growing in that loop will be all up inside those blocks as well. I'm here to see if we can help people remotely without having to ship stuff across a country / continent as then everyone loses out.

They usually do provide labels but I guess its a bit of a confusing situation for them - let me know after its all completed if you're still out of pocket and I'll try and get it sorted.


My guess is copper.  They have always been very careful to say to use coolant not water.  That and it looks a copper "PD360" on their site we got: http://www.syscooling.com/products/Radiators/54.html .   The two aluminum radiator's they show selling are much smaller then the one with kit.

I could be wrong if they used a specialty one for miners, but I'm highly guessing its their standard.

Yes, you have to assume its copper or there are copper components. In several points in the listings (all changed by now) there has been a mention of copper on both the radiator and the fittings [internal coating]. You can see within the chamber of the radiator that there is definitely some form of dark orange coating, which may be brass or copper. So tldr, be safe and assume there is copper and aluminium within the same loop.


My system temps have slowly been crreeping up too, when the unit was new the temp was all 34c +-1 C now all units are 35-38C sometimes 33-40C seems like there a BIG temp variation with liquid cooling,
Especially is they are all sharing the same Liquid loop.


And its ONLY been getting COLDER HERE (-10c to -16 the last few morning and just over 0c during the day) - My heat in the house where the miner is kept is off...

Read this too: http://www.overclockers.com/pc-water-coolant-chemistry-part-ii/



Try to blow out any dust that's caught in your radiator. Power off your miner, and take a strong blow through the radiator, I did mine both ways and temps went back down to normal. Since it is winter here, all the dust in the house gets into those radiators pretty easily. Same the the miner. I have a large 5HP shop vac that has the air blow output connection. So I use that instead of wasting money on canned air.

I read that article also. My next coolant I'm buying will be one that works with all metals and is all premixed, since apparently no one can even confirm what the radiator is. I thought Dogie, the paid rep here would know, but he just speculated.

And over a dozen liquid cooling websites I've been on, they all say distilled water with silver shards in the tubes have always been a fantastic coolant method. I said that before but Dogie said distilled water isn't really a good idea, but his recommendation in the first post was a bottle of ironside coolant which is distilled water. I can never believe or trust a paid rep. Of course they're biased.

432  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: January 30, 2015, 12:43:57 AM
Have you ever considered in forming an alliance like OPEC to limit the hash rate race?  Wink  I just saw Bitfury said that their cloud service would only add hardware based on demand, is this a trend towards more cloud based service?
It's funny to read it from mega self miner.
No, it's illegal.

How is that illegal?  Smiley It is just a consensus (if it ever can be reached). Even pools can be allied together to protect against a faulty fork in 2013, and against potential 51% attack if it ever happens

Imagine a vendor that have leading semi-conductor process 10nm, he can limit his production scale at a certain level so that the network hash rate increase slowly. He then could start a cloud mining service and sell the hash power at market rate, which leaves him large margin to deal with market volatility. I think that is what Bitfury means




In the USA there is an antitrust law preventing companies from joining together to set / fix prices and supply. Its to promote fair competition for the consumers.

This is common practice in the business world. Some just get caught. From memory remember how Samsung and Sony and a couple other TV manufacture's were price fixing their TV's to keep a premium price? They had secret board meetings and everything.  Of course it still goes on, all the time. It is called greed.
433  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: January 30, 2015, 12:29:33 AM
You don't need water cooling to have quiet. You just need to stop designing for maximum density. Spread the chips out and use nice quiet slow big fans. That's really all water cooling is.

If the SP20 was twice as large (same number of chips, without putting 2 chips in line of the airflow) it would run much better and quieter with 2 fans.

^very true. unfortunately the shipping size/weight=cost would be about 50% more. In any case the SP20 is quite reasonable when its running at 1200GH or less.

I wonder what the comparison of the shipping size/weight/cost of changing the specs of a SP20 to run cooler would be compared to adding the weight of water blocks, tubing and radiators to the box? More if its a sealed system with included liquid.

Yea man, I would totally be into a more silent miner. Someone has to do some thinking outside the box. With today's technology computer fans that we've been using since the 80's just has to change. Don't need a better fan or to reinvent it, need a completely different way to cool electronics that no one has thought of yet. Chemicals? Compounds? Liquids? Has to be something.
434  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: January 30, 2015, 12:24:52 AM
My predictions, three months ago: Bitcoin TLV `14, #25 - Guy Corem - Mining Forecast
BitFury revealed their mining address two days afterwards. I didn't expect to see AntPool grow so much.
Let's see how the rest of my predictions will be in 2015. It was based of BTC value of $400

The rest of Inside Bitcoin TLV lectures can be found here: Inside Bitcoins Tel Aviv 2014t
I think that it was one of the best Inside Bitcoin conferences ever. Kudos to Meni Rosenfeld.

Updated?

General comments now Guy on what you think is going to happen in the next few months?
I believe I have good visibility, however I can't give specifics due to NDAs, investors relations, etc.

Guy

Bullcrap. Listen, if you are going to hide behind the NDAs and put yourself out of the community like that then don't even mention anything at all. This Bitcoin forum should be for all to collaborate and share information, once you start putting a hierarchy on who gets to know what then you are turning it right into the same financial system we have now and why a lot of people are here. Suggestion, don't sign anymore NDAs so you don't have to say, "can't give specifics due to NDAs. This of course is my opinion.


435  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: January 30, 2015, 12:14:43 AM
Snapshot of the manufacturers poll Philipma1957 ran before the mods killed it off



I find the mods action unbelievable.

Guy

Edit:
I opened a meta thread to discuss the poll removal by the mods, without any explanation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938782.0

Who has the best firmware? Someone that always buys Bitmain products isn't going to have a clue who has the best firmware, or customer service. To truly get honest feedback from those questions the user would need to have products from all the manufactures listed. Since I only own two of the manufacture's listed in the polls, I really can't answer them accurately.
436  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: January 29, 2015, 02:38:06 AM
So you are going to chalk this up to algae, when I have 5 other C1's with running with no problems at all. Then especially hearing from another person having the same problem right after my post indicates there may be some issue. And the coolant that's in there now is only 2 days old. I completely dumped all the old coolant when I switched my hose/pump. And that was only 2 days old. There is a problem with this miner. Algae is just a quick excuse to blame it on something we don't know about yet.

Huh I was explaining the symptoms, I never said it was your fault or anyone elses. Anyway, the buildup of gas you demonstrated in the video is due photosynthesis. How long ago did you purchase?

They were shipped on January 13th.

I also replaced the hoses. The only way to figure this out is a process of elimination here. I need a radiator and a miner. If Bitmain stands behind his products and warranty I'll gladly replace the radiator first and see what happens and if that that help, then there's no only one part left, the miner. Should I contact the warranty center in Colorado?



Did you buy the combo from Bitmain or separate cooling order from syscooling?

If it's the same as it was combo I believe Bitmain will help.   If you got the cooling system from a syscooling order then you have to go through them. (This might have changed but it was this).

Bought everything as a kit. I called the Colorado support facility and the guy said all he can do is have me ship my entire system over to them and they will find out what is wrong with it and fix, no matter what it is. So I lose a couple weeks mining, big deal, and have to pay to ship that and my cooling system to Colorado. Hey, at least their willing to help. What's BitmainWarranty going to do? They would have probably told me to do the same thing. Only thing that bothers me is having to pay shipping for an in warranty product. I'll remember that next time when wave of new hardware comes a along. Other companies provide you shipping labels.

WHAT IS OUR RADIATOR MADE OUT OF? THE ONE THAT CAME WITH THE KIT? ALUMINUM OR COPPER?


437  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: January 28, 2015, 07:59:15 PM
So you are going to chalk this up to algae, when I have 5 other C1's with running with no problems at all. Then especially hearing from another person having the same problem right after my post indicates there may be some issue. And the coolant that's in there now is only 2 days old. I completely dumped all the old coolant when I switched my hose/pump. And that was only 2 days old. There is a problem with this miner. Algae is just a quick excuse to blame it on something we don't know about yet.

Huh I was explaining the symptoms, I never said it was your fault or anyone elses. Anyway, the buildup of gas you demonstrated in the video is due photosynthesis. How long ago did you purchase?

They were shipped on January 13th.

I also replaced the hoses. The only way to figure this out is a process of elimination here. I need a radiator and a miner. If Bitmain stands behind his products and warranty I'll gladly replace the radiator first and see what happens and if that that help, then there's no only one part left, the miner. Should I contact the warranty center in Colorado?

438  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: January 28, 2015, 05:24:33 AM
Heat causes the liquid to expand causing the pressure.  These pumps can't handle the pressure, that's why I believe mine failed.

Not in this case, he said he preheated the coolant before closing it.

Ok, please watch this youtube video I made of my pump spewing out the coolant only after one night. This was with the fill hole closed of course. If the fill hole was open, there would be no way for the pressure to build up.

http://youtu.be/15kbEGTvnqE

I'm not sure this place allows videos to be embedded into the post, I doubt it, but here it is. It is 720P, so it is hi-def if you want to change it while watching. Can anyone explain how all that pressure gets in the system? And the green under the miner itself is from a leak somewhere, which I think is from the aluminum block and that in itself is sucking in air when the fill hole is closed. I have to get this fixed.

Bitmainwarranty, I'm going to need somekind of RMA for this. This shouldn't happen.


http://youtu.be/15kbEGTvnqE

EDIT: The green coolant leak that's right in front of the miner ( as you can see it is green ) only happens when the fill cap it fully closed. If the fill cap is open, nothing leaks out and the paper towel stays white.

So because you're coolant level returns after you open it, its NOT expansion, and as far as we know its NOT a leak. What you have going on there is the algae or whatever it is producing gas. That's why you're getting bubbles accumulating and that's why you're getting the pressure build up.

Edit: I agree with your assertation that the 'leak' on the miner is a by product of the excess pressure rather than a leak leak per se.

So you are going to chalk this up to algae, when I have 5 other C1's with running with no problems at all. Then especially hearing from another person having the same problem right after my post indicates there may be some issue. And the coolant that's in there now is only 2 days old. I completely dumped all the old coolant when I switched my hose/pump. And that was only 2 days old. There is a problem with this miner. Algae is just a quick excuse to blame it on something we don't know about yet.

439  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: January 27, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
Ok, please watch this youtube video I made of my pump spewing out the coolant only after one night. This was with the fill hole closed of course. If the fill hole was open, there would be no way for the pressure to build up.

http://youtu.be/15kbEGTvnqE

I'm not sure this place allows videos to be embedded into the post, I doubt it, but here it is. It is 720P, so it is hi-def if you want to change it while watching. Can anyone explain how all that pressure gets in the system? And the green under the miner itself is from a leak somewhere, which I think is from the aluminum block and that in itself is sucking in air when the fill hole is closed. I have to get this fixed.

Bitmainwarranty, I'm going to need somekind of RMA for this. This shouldn't happen.


http://youtu.be/15kbEGTvnqE



EDIT: The green coolant leak that's right in front of the miner ( as you can see it is green ) only happens when the fill cap it fully closed. If the fill cap is open, nothing leaks out and the paper towel stays white.
440  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: January 27, 2015, 09:20:45 AM
you diluted too much the fluid or it does not have enough alcohol or glycol in it
look for some biocide or antimicrobial or anti algae
i use vodka Grin

Nothing was diluted. The coolant came pre-mixed with a biocide already in it. No mixing.

And the best thing I heard is distilled water and then using those silver shards. I heard someone ran a system for 5 years without replacing the coolant. I think that's what I'm going to try.

Water + copper + aluminium = galvanic corrosion = no go for C1s. Nothing to stop you adding a silver shard to your current setup as far as I'm aware. Do put a sponge in there as well, the last thing you want is the pump to ingest it Tongue


I want to get my one problematic C1 fixed. If I tighten the fill hole on top of the pump it will start leaking and build so much pressure and possibly blow the loop. If I keep the fill hole open, no leaks. What is the easiest way to troubleshoot and find out if this system has a leak or a small hole somewhere sucking in air? Air HAS to be getting into the system somehow. I'm willing to run, if possible, the entire miner out of the black box, but there seriously is a problem. For warranty purposes the only thing I could do is tighten the fill hole and then when it starts to build enough pressure and make noise I'll record a small video showing me opening the fill hole.

Is there anyplace the coolant can leak out while inside the aluminum block, or just in the front where they connect with that little rubber hose?

I could be wrong on this so Dogie please confirm.   But I believe the block should not have a spot to leak out.   The two holes should be it on where it allows coolant out.

Looking at the pictures I can't see a seaon on the block, but at the same time I can't see any other way they'd be manufactured. They should be two pieces of flat plate, routed out then sealed together but there is no evidence of that. So.... investment cast? To answer your question then, it doesn't look like it.

But either way, if you're leaking from the block you should see coolant in the bottom of the case, even if its only a stain.

Ok, here is what I did. I closed up my fill hole, so now technically the loop is sealed. I put white paper towels down underneath the pump and miner. I'll check it often. Eventually I will start to see the white paper towel turn green in some spots under the pump and under the miner. That could easily be the high pressure this particular C1 creates when the loop is closed. How that is happening, I have no clue. I took pictures of when everything was white and clean and when things start to leak I'll record a small video on opening the fill hole.  You won't believe the pressure that builds up in that loop. While all my other C1's are fine. Same coolant, same pump, same everything, same closed fill hole.

Also dogie you said "Water + copper + aluminium = galvanic corrosion = no go for C1s" well the coolant you suggested, that Ironside brand from Amazon is just distilled water and a biocide premix. What's the difference with me using my own distilled water?




I added the pictures of the pump and miner sitting on white clean towels. Thanks for the coolant being green, real easy to spot on a white paper towel.



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