Price is wrong : it's 5k$ not 12k$ Difficulty will never be 100MM in 7 months. BTC/usd will not stay the same. I changed it to 5,000 and was just about the same. I'll agree BTC/USD we'll never really know what it will be and well, difficulty is always on the rise. https://blockchain.info/charts/difficulty. Seriously, does it ever go down to make a difference? Still no ROI in 12 months. If you aren't guaranteed a positive return on your investment then don't invest. |
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Trying to get my Dad to order an SP30 along with me but he doesn't like ordering something that cost that much and then have to wait quite a while to get it. And I can't come up with any positive notes on why it is a good deal. He's old school. You give your money, you get your product. Once the Neptune's start rolling out from KNC and start hashing away, maybe some deciding factors will present themselves. God I'm such a baby, it's only $5k, right? 4 mortgage payments, big deal.  I'm guessing even before the September SP30's come out they will be sold out so they'll never be in stock anyway. Has to be a psychological thing to I think. The SP30 looks nice, but the competition doesn't sit still. By the time time August / September rolls around, you can count on the SP30 going head to head with the Bitmain S3 and Knc Neptune. It's impossible too tell which will be a better deal at that time because there are too many variables and a lot will change in the next 3 months. And with no refunds %100 of the risk is on the consumer. Bitcoin mining is a one of a kind business! |
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Trying to get my Dad to order an SP30 along with me but he doesn't like ordering something that cost that much and then have to wait quite a while to get it. And I can't come up with any positive notes on why it is a good deal. He's old school. You give your money, you get your product. Once the Neptune's start rolling out from KNC and start hashing away, maybe some deciding factors will present themselves. God I'm such a baby, it's only $5k, right? 4 mortgage payments, big deal. I'm guessing even before the September SP30's come out they will be sold out so they'll never be in stock anyway. Has to be a psychological thing to I think. |
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Is pre-ordering an SP-30 for all the way September delivery viable? Would I ever get my ROI you think? The price and the amount of waiting time is what is stopping me from pulling the trigger. After $5k it it is a real hard catch up game. I know I'd feel more comfortable with an August delivery, but bitcoin could be $400 in three months. I guess I'm saying I really like the SP30 but don't want to be in the red with it through its lifetime. Ya know?
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Question.
If I'm not in advanced mode does the three fan settings control the other numbers that are in advanced mode?
I just took a peek at the numbers in advanced mode (these I never changed) and they are:
FAN SPEED: 80
START VOLTAGE: .664
MAZ VOLTAGE: .750
MAX POWER CONSUMP: 1260
DC2DC CURRENT LIMIT: 62
Are all those numbers ok? Right now I'm on a 110V but will be switched over to a 208V next week probably.
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From KNCminer April 8 Neptune Update, regarding the "Hash while you wait" or "plan B": The first customers (batch 1) are expected to be hashing in our data center in early June and the last customer will hash in our data center around the last week of June. Early June is definitely now, the data center has been ready and has been eating up our potential profits for a while now. There is really no reason why this plan doesn't come into play right now. This was obviously a gesture to prevent us from requesting a refund, and in my case, it worked. I am so sick of being lied to and treated like shit, so please KNC, reward your customers who actually stuck with you! As stated before, anything they say is %100 on a marketing/sales level and you have to think that way also. Not just blatantly believe them. |
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Noooooooo…SP10 Dawson Mid June Batch is out of stock.
Spondoolies-Tech, is there any chance you may open up for more orders or another batch of the SP10?
this is the final batch of SP10, i'm led to believe. There will be no more SP10 made - Spondoolies-Tech posted up the thread that this is the case. best you get your order in for SP30 before they all sell out! Thanks for the info. That stinks for those of us who didn't order the August batch of the SP30 because the September batch is still 3-4 Months out. 3-4 months out for $5k is too tight for me. Yes, I did dream of having an SP30. |
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What still keeps you in the Bitcoin mining game with the increasing difficulty? Entertainment, mostly. Cheaper more efficient power supplies, trading up hardware, and rigging everything myself instead of paying someone else or using off-the-shelf equipment avoids problems like spending $1500 to power and cool six boards. Having 200A service at the house and $0.09/per KWh helps too. Turning mining profits back in to build hashpower with difficulty has also been working well, instead of throwing a whole lot of money in the pot at the start and hoping to get it back before the hardware is obsolete. It becomes a hobby when you spend more on electric and parts then making any reward with it. It is quite hard to break even these days, since the manufacturer prices gear pretty high to barely make any return and this is all global. Some places electricity cost a lot more then others. Want to over clock your gear and get more hashing out of it, then you have to pay for the consequence. Maxxing out gear in my opinion just creates a higher electric bill and reduces the life of the hardware. |
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Had to jump this pool finally. Constant disconnects as very low hash rates. When back to the Guild where things are much more stready and i don't don't get dropped on a daily basis. The Ghash has serious issues.
Same here just too many disconnects, then it takes forever to get back up to speed. What the hell is wrong with their US servers? I have a little tiny miner I use for connectivity tests and that Ghash US server is horrible. I don't even think it is a real server anyway, I just think it routes to the UK server somehow because when I'm hashing on the "US" server and I go to check my connections on my computer all I see is the "UK" server. So they have issues/routing or just trying to hide something maybe. But anyway, I haven't been able to sustain a connection with their US server for 12 straight hours. Always disconnects and you never know when it will reconnect. Some times it won't at all. When you try to explain this to them and all you get back is "please reboot your miner and reconnect". Apparently they don't want to troubleshoot or care about these little issues affecting probably hundreds of people...some probably don't even know. Which begs to know, why are there so many people on this pool if it is so shitty? Pretend I'm 5 years old and try to explain it. It is nice when they are working, ripping through blocks really quick but when there are issues it really defeats the purpose to stay on board, right? As far as I can tell US1 is not a real stratum, it's just a proxy. And I think that's why there are issues with it. Plus on http://www.liveipmap.com/home it comes up as the Netherlands. I doubt they really have any US servers at all. Just misrepresentation. |
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Obviously this is an older video. Since KNC is coming right out saying they aren't going to mine for themselves or anything. They certainly know how to lie pretty good. KNC was so successful because of timing. Right when they released their Mars/Saturn/Jupiter rigs BTC was on a huge rise. As sam was sleeping one night he had a dream about advertising another product for lots of money, (a $10-$13k product) and use all that money to start a data center so we can get really rich and no matter what happens down the road, at least we are rich. |
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I think this might be a bit much for me to tackle.
Do they have a plug and go model?
We are finalizing a plug and go model based on the Habanero. Should have some details in coming days. Limited quantity will be available. That being said, if you can snag an $850 board that's a great deal and I would jump on it. What we will be offering simply takes some of the monkey work out of the equation even though the monkey work on these boards is pretty awesome. Monkey work is what makes this shit fun. Somebody on the forums said "Leave shit alone?? Bitch, this is Bitcoin!!! Ain't nobody gonna just leave it alone!!" Look forward to getting my boards. Some people have big money involved and every second you are "fooling" around with shit it's not hashing making a reward. If the whole idea is to just fool around with hardware and squeeze a hash point higher then everyone else with a custom type setup then mommy is paying for everything or you just have bank. |
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Notice how the dude with all the updates just stopped posting.
Every manufacture gets the greed bug. I remember when KNC was all about customer service to the max. Once people started to dump major pre-order money on them they took off and went with it and now have one of the largest mining data centers in the world. All built on money from other people. Customer's are suffering and it seems to be everywhere. There really should be some ACCOUNTABILITY.
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When did you guys actually order this stuff? Spondoolie has an SP30 which is 6TH/s and is $5k. There's no question about their capabilities or if they can deliver, because they already have. I know multiple people that are running SP10's. Did I actually read somewhere in this thread that these were preordered last November?
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These are stand alone miners, are they?
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Had to jump this pool finally. Constant disconnects as very low hash rates. When back to the Guild where things are much more stready and i don't don't get dropped on a daily basis. The Ghash has serious issues.
Same here just too many disconnects, then it takes forever to get back up to speed. What the hell is wrong with their US servers? I have a little tiny miner I use for connectivity tests and that Ghash US server is horrible. I don't even think it is a real server anyway, I just think it routes to the UK server somehow because when I'm hashing on the "US" server and I go to check my connections on my computer all I see is the "UK" server. So they have issues/routing or just trying to hide something maybe. But anyway, I haven't been able to sustain a connection with their US server for 12 straight hours. Always disconnects and you never know when it will reconnect. Some times it won't at all. When you try to explain this to them and all you get back is "please reboot your miner and reconnect". Apparently they don't want to troubleshoot or care about these little issues affecting probably hundreds of people...some probably don't even know. Which begs to know, why are there so many people on this pool if it is so shitty? Pretend I'm 5 years old and try to explain it. It is nice when they are working, ripping through blocks really quick but when there are issues it really defeats the purpose to stay on board, right? |
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On April 11 I cancelled our most recent order from kncminer. On April 24 I received a "refund" that is short of the correct amount by more than $6,000 USD. I've gone round and round with support staff about this, and the final word (from Sam) is that they have no intention of paying me one cent more.
Sorry to pile on to this, but I thought it best to let you all know.
Serious? How can there be such mathematical error and they don't see it? This is hard to understand. |
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I'm able to access the shell, but how does one view the CGMINER screen while it is hashing? And to exit it, restart it while in the shell? I do like the graphical interface since it does have all you need, but more or less out of curiosity. Thanks.
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@PatMan The word you are looking for is Dutch, ditch refers to a roadside structure.
It doesn´t really make sense for spondoolies to keep offering the sp10 when a much better unit is available.
@spondoolies
Have you decided on the sp30s PSU model yet?
Also, enjoy your weekend.
I was looking to get another SP10 myself, but by the time mid June rolls around there maybe other hardware we can get our hands on, no? Hard t follow everything and don't know what's ever a rumor in other threads either. |
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