I remember hearing that in 2011 and a lot more often 

Don't expect a "speedy" refund, some of us have been waiting WEEKS for their refunds to be processed, and I'm sure most of them are in front of you...


***    P.S.   Has ANYONE had their Neptune refund processed yet?   ***

Well KNC staff posted in the KNC Forums that Neptunes 2nd batch they still have for sale are "going fast" ...so I'd safely assume NO CHANCE of any Jupiters being released into the wild before that batch of Neptunes are sold out.....imho

Well KNC staff posted in the KNC Forums that Neptunes 2nd batch they still have for sale are "going fast" ...so I'd safely assume NO CHANCE of any Jupiters being released into the wild before that batch of Neptunes are sold out.....imho

but yeah...if they are ahead of the timeline they set for themselves for selling Neptunes.....(whatever that is) it is unlikely we will see any more Jupiters at any price

*I'm unsure on how I feel on this me and 2 brothers have 2 Neptunes on order 1 batch one 1 batch 2....on the other hand have USD for Jupiters if priced right...hmmmm...I'm on the fence?"

add to that my current 555gh Jupiter to the best of my knowledge is mining .18 btc /day and difficulty is projected more or less 30 percent again ...so you run that out ways...say I get my Jupiter NEW batch er.....by 2nd week of Feb say....what I'd be looking at maybe .10 btc/day....then Neptunes come out by april 1st say?

anyway seems awful tight imho

so I too still think it is a no go (I do however have a corsair 1200i just in case and 30 days to send it back..i'm sooooooo conflicted"

confused ..this bitcoin stuff makes my head hurt......

Searing

Eleuthria, might you considering lowering your pool fees temporarily to incentivise more people to get off ghash.io and onto your pool ?

Anyone else notice their 24 hour earnings drop almost in half the past 2 days or so?

I just hope we get any announcement either way I have coin waiting for jupiter orders and if they announce no jups some coin will go on one or two more neptunes and some spread across other companies. I just want to hear anything from them.

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I would assume that this case has been resolved?  Obviously no funds were stolen from you, so I'm assuming it was a mixup which has since been resolved by customer support, but if not feel free to email me at moriarty.bitcoin@gmail.com

when does Neptune refund option end? 
it is when they start production, no? 
When is that likely to happen? This week, next week, week after?

What I am getting at is when the option for refunds stop/end, that's when we might see Jupiters for sale again.

I think that KNC are not going to sell Jupiters because of some existing customers started asking for Neptune refunds in order to buy Jupiters.

I also think that if there was no option to refund Neptunes then they would have gone ahead and sold more Jupiters.

Didn't a few guys here say they were going to refund their Neptunes to buy more or some Jupiters?  This is what I remember just after KNC announced that they were going to sell Jupiters again and for us to keep some bitcoins handy. 

If I was in this business I would stop selling Jupiters also because of the fear of Neptune refunds.  They would make more profit if they just did offer them to us and sell them off privately.

This is just my opinion.

The power requirement of the Neptune isn't an easy sell.  If I were a competitor and realizing if I ship real quantity and power it will trigger a Jupiter sale response by KnC, I might consider doing a BFL with some backdoor deals and machines to family and friends but leave the majority of my customers in the lurch.  KnC might see the lack of major hash addition all at once as allowing a better chance to sell Neptunes - they wouldn't be their own competition if that makes any sense.

It would be a strange turn of events if the competition is lining the pockets of employees, family and friends with their product hashing at a  lower total net hashrate while giving their customers excuses and the only thing that would get them off the pot is if KnC started reproduction and sale of Jupiters. (The kind of logic a Bush spin-doctor would love.)

Sounds like for the "first time", they're floundering on their word. A month ago they confirmed they would in fact be selling Jupiters by now (actually, by now they should've been shipped). Now they're quiet.

Either they're releasing the Neptune much earlier than anticipated, like next month, or they're simply going to ignore their word.

It's extremely rare since all of the bitcoind's on the various pool servers are connected to the payment server, so the odds of the payment server seeing a competing block before a Guild block are *very* low (less than 1 in 10 orphans).  When they are missed, it's generally corrected a few hours later manually without anybody noticing, but it does take a few hours because correcting it is a manual process, including the detection that it happened in the first place.  Bitcoind does not report orphaned blocks via any RPC commands if they were not originally accepted.


The current project for the pool is a complete ground-up rewrite of the Stratum code to make it more scalable (full utilization of many-core systems), allow for better merged mining integration (instead of the fairly limited version currently implemented), and multiple chains (for an scrypt multipool).

Part of this rewrite is also going to make the pool servers insert found blocks directly to the database, and then the payout server will check against them before awards are assigned.  It won't prevent them from still needing manual intervention to get them paid (as a security/sanity check), but it will make sure they're properly logged at the time they're found and identified as not yet paid out in the Pool Stats page.

Wow. This just made a huge difference. Thank you!

Has the pool stopped paying for orphans?

https://blockchain.info/block-index/456271/00000000000000016694cd3b30c5a18a3f39c5b9da100fddf807c50b8b86f342

Does it bother you that someone is being successful providing a service in an open market?