Slush's pool website needs a major overhaul. Looks like things I did with Microsoft Frontpage in the late 90's.

Hey, that would do it! What is the latest version GPU hasing would work?

Is that a doorbell on the table? Or fire alarm?

I have an old Nvidia GE Force 580 with 1.5GB of memory on it and wanted to see what I would get in hashing with it. I downloaded the latest release and couldn't get anything started. I had to download 3.6.6 to get things going for some reason. Any newer version would just get stuck at 0 hashing power and stay there. The older versions would kick right in and start hashing. Using all defaults, nothing special. Surprisingly that little card was getting 150Mh/s and temps were pretty good. Are there known issues with Nvidia or special tricks to get them started with cards like this?

If those are two Jupiters, why not use them as is?

I see 2 control boards there.

I would buy a couple extra, sure.

Thank you for taking the time to write this. Please understand it is hard for a new miner to join a pool and only see his own hash rate and nothing else. While the hashrate graph is nice on MyStats page I'd rather see a breakdown of rewarded coin broken down into quarters. Is that possible? Obviously this information would be delayed due to the nature of how things work, but that would give the user a much more concise feeling of where they stand in the grand scheme of things. Your pool must be good, lots of people have recommended it to me and told me to leave BTC Guild and their fees, but for some reason when ever I have tried and switched over to your pool I barely made any rewards at all. I guess it is just in my nature to find out why, since Guild even takes fees....so technically your pool should pay out more, right? I guess this type of discussion can go on forever and comes up once in a while with new miners. Is is better to be in a pool with less people, more people, etc...all that. In my mind (weather this to be correct or not) I need to be in a pool that can solve a block as quick as they can and onto the next. And for the users that DO understand the reward system. How do they become aware of how they are doing in your pool? Is it they have so much much hashing power they don't bother to even care or do they try and find some way to check on how they are doing. I think I mined with you for 48 hours and my rewards were .2. On Guild it would have been at least double that. (280 Gh/s). And I'm just a guy trying to figure out why that is. I owe it to myself to be persistent and somewhat of a nag and I know veterans hate questions from new people, but I dropped a few thousand dollars so I'm just trying to understand what that's doing. I didn't get into mining to get rich, or make a lot of money. I did it more for the hobby and to contribute to the bitcoin industry. Even though I didn't know everything beforehand I was kind of forced to make a decision about spending the money due to hardware not being available all the time, and this is why I spent money prior to not knowing %100 of what's going on. Most people can't or won't even admit they're clueless on what's going on. As long as they see some rewards, they are happy. I'm a little different, I want to know more and have been trying to educate myself as much as I can when I have the time. I've noticed a lot of people on here are here 24/7, don't have jobs or a family or just have a lot of time on their hands. Unfortunately I can't spend all day online trying to educate myself on everything, and I come back when I can to absorb when I can at the moment...so please have patience and understand we all were in the same boat at one point or another. Thank you.

Got it, thanks.
I thought the ribbon cable had to be exact what is being used now. There are like 20 different variations of this cable and then it asks if you want 2 way, 3 way, 4 way, 6 way, etc.....how would I know. I wonder how Cyper ended up knowing which exact cable to get.

I would not, you may put too much tension on the PCB and bend it. These aren't like motherboards, which are strong as heck and can take a beating. These are ASIC PCB's which are thin and weak. Didn't any of you ever build your own computers? Must be a young crowd here. I've been building my own computers for the last 20 years, and while some of you may be 20 years old some sound like you have no idea what you are doing. The PCB mounts on mountings retainers or screws so there is proper air flow below the PCB also. Just grab or buy an all aluminum computer case and make your own miner....even a 2u computer case with nothing in it would be a perfect start for a nice custom job. They also make starter screws that tap into the aluminum then on the other side is a female end for screw that would hold down the PCB itself. There are terribly so many options out there. If I had the chance to get my hands on "extra" modules I would be forced to make another case, and it would be a nice little project to have. I'm actually looking for the data cable they use and can't find it online. If someone knows where to buy that stuff, please post a link. I can't remember if I saw a link to that here or not. The cable that goes from the module to the controller board. Flat data cable.

That's not a Jupiter. That unit has 6 modules, maybe he can call it a Venus or something. I'm wondering where the extra two modules are sitting.

What do people do?

Ok, everything else put aside...this is my first venture into bitcoin mining. I'd like to mine for as long as I can. What does everyone else do out there when their hashing power just isn't enough? I'm sure at one point everyone has to make a decision to buy/invest more or opt out. The thing that I see is the time from purchasing to making that decision is MUCH shorter then it use to be. I'm sure there are GPU miners here going for over a year here. I doubt I'll ever get to mine my Saturn for a year and have a return. What does normally everyone do? Discard their old mining hardware and dump another few thousand into new gear? Just keep adding to what they have already? Because if you look on the horizon you are going to need at least 1Th/s rig to be in the ball game here. And those rigs are priced about $5000 or more right now. Someone that bought a Saturn is never going to break even then be able to make $5k, so what does that miner do? Back out? Dump more money? I'm kind of curious as to what long term miners have done.

I posted this in this forum because it will apply to all our first gen Saturn and Jupiter owners. While some of you are adding hash power to what you already had there are a lot of us being first time mining buyers here. There is no big pay day at the end....and if we are only buying to break end 2-3 months down the road and then no return it kind of throws up red flags to stop and think hard about the next decision on where our money goes. Maybe we can talk about this, rather then no news KNC.

Phoenix, some people just don't like being lied to. It is called ethics in the business world. People actually go to jail for being unethical in the business world. I'm not saying anyone from KNC should go to jail, I'm saying this is how important it is to supply the correct information. Some people can't sit online in the forums 24/7 like you can and read every update and post there is....but if there was a notice about them being shipped late I missed it. Also that notice SHOULD have went in the same spot where the modules were first announced, the KNC forums news area. That's what should of happened.

I ran into the same problem myself, posted about it a couple different places so I would get different responses from different people and not the same canned responses all the time. Not one thing out there is going to show you how it works. These pools we join are all done by programmers. That programmer is the only person who knows what's going on. I hear so many people say they are making great return...then my story is the opposite. Who knows. Once it all becomes commercialization we won't have to worry about anything.

I have tried a couple different pools myself....staying on each on for a few days....I do favor one of them above the rest, but according to some of the online calculators I've tried out, i'm still making a little less than what I "should" be getting back. I've come to the conclusion that everyone is in the same boat and to compensate they just go out and buy more hashing power to make themselves feel better.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.

Kind of sucks that eventually it will all be big commercial companies and we will all be gone. They'll eventually throw enough money into the hashing power to just kick us out...hell, it's going to turn into a regular bank soon. I thought the bitcoin industry had ways to stop this from happening.

I have more then both of you and still don't understand it %100. Pool operators really don't have a manual presented when you join up and you have to learn about hidden fees, very slow pay outs and all that stuff on your own. High post count or how old our account is does NOT determine how much we know. If we all "assumed" this, we would all be assholes.

I complained also...we just get laughed in out faces. You'd think with how much bitcoin has rose we all would be making more, it is the opposite. Only the pool operators and their top tier make it all.   Why do you think they put up a pool to begin with? To make money. Not all cracked up to what it's supposed to be when too much greed gets involved.

What stats? If I'm mining with Eligius and want to know what my rewards were on the last three blocks, where can I see this information? Is it there? This is all PPLNS. All I see is my hashrate and then can browse the blocks randomly that have nothing personally to do with me.

Same as mine. IN PROGRESS.

Isn't that dangerous? Throwing electronic boards on top of one with anti-static system around at all? These are $1000 cards here. I thought they would take care of them a little better then that. Also, have they all been tested before being sent out? The last thing KNC needs is more RMA work on for modules they just sent out.