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4841  Economy / Economics / Re: Venezuela to launch 'Petro' cryptocurrency on: December 07, 2017, 06:05:53 AM
Maduro to avoid the financial harassment from US and such has announced a crypto currency for Venezuela. Not exactly sure how this will make it any better then the currency they already have in a free fall. Can release of 'Petro' really help Venezuela?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy/enter-the-petro-venezuela-to-launch-oil-backed-cryptocurrency-idUSKBN1DX0SQ
It is going to end up shitty as ever just like its fiat. Nothing will ever make it change and I am really looking forward to see how it ends up all playing out. Apparently, it would be the same all controlled currency, so he might just as well try to save himself some of the embarrassment now than later on. Only time will tell anyway how it all ends.

Help the country? It will be something similar to their current currency, inflationary and with an unrealistic official rate of exchange. People having money will still want to get dollars, euros or bitcoins.
We cannot really be too quick to judge but based on the fact that it is still going to end up centralized, one may actually have to question if it would really have any effect in the long run. Time alone will tell us that but I am eager to see the turn of events anyway but I would not be too optimistic.
4842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling PRO CON on: December 06, 2017, 05:43:41 PM
I really don't like gambling what I can't afford to loose. Sometimes when one Gamble's big money and looses, the person tends to increase his stake and the cycle continues.
Greed is what has affected so many today in gambling. Once a gambler is greedy, that is the first step in not being able to control the impulse of trying to recover, and as this keeps going on, it starts draining their emotions, getting control of the way they think and then they end up chasing what they obviously will not be able to get.

The best way to ever gamble is to accept that you can lose a lot in gambling which is why it is better to not gamble what one cannot afford to lose like you said. Also, it is best to see that cash you are playing with as something you are paying to have some fun, just like when you want to go to the movies but here, you can just be lucky to win something big and if you do not, accept it and walk away.
4843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your Lucky moments during gambling? on: December 06, 2017, 01:41:23 PM
Well i've won a couple of times in dice and bacarrat and i consider all those times my lucky moments. There's just nit much into it. These games are won by luck and since i won, those are my lucky moments
Good for you! Never really had any lucky moment. The only time I could consider my lucky moment was when playing dice on cryptogames and then after long streaks of losses and already in a bet about 0.05, I took the craziest risk of continuing the bet to recover my loss.

My heart almost popped out of my chest before I could roll, and then luckily for me, I won that bet and since then, it has been a thug of war trying to gamble whenever such scenario plays out in my head.
4844  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which trading platform do you use? on: December 06, 2017, 11:51:49 AM
i used to use bittrex but after all shit happens i decided to use Binance and shapeshift mostly , changing my money with out a thirdparty , i dont trust any exchange, have u heard of MTGox ?
just dont trust them!
Normally, if not for trading purposes, which is advisable for anyone to trade with what they can afford to lose, these exchanges are all centralized exchanges and anything can happen.

I personally would not want to wake up one day and the incident of what happened to MtGox, happening to most of these exchanges. Because of that anyway, I have learnt to use multiple exchanges and with the help of coinigy, I get to trade on all of them easily. Bittrex, poloniex, Bitfinex and Cryptopia are my options for now and I can keep myself going with these ones.
4845  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: USDT on Bittrex? on: December 06, 2017, 10:42:05 AM
You almost got me lost bro  Grin, with all those your statement. First and foremost, I hope you really know how to trade, so you do not get all your funds messed up at the end. That being said, it is just the normal rule of trading and you do not necessarily need tether to do all of that.

Tether however, is just an equivalent value of USD for those who may want to trade against fiat.
Bittrex is a trading platform and apparently, if you sell higher and buy back lower, you obviously already have some profit when the value increases.

If you want to withdraw back into fiat, you can just make use of any exchange based on your location and send your bitcoin from bittrex to the wallet. Simple! Mind you, you must get verified before you can withdraw on bittrex and you may want to do that first before you start trading.
4846  Economy / Speculation / Re: $70,000 anyone? on: December 06, 2017, 04:05:46 AM
This is only a hypothesis , it's maybe happen maybe not but in my opinion it could be happen because the potiental of Bitcoin is so good.  
Definitely, no one can predict the future and with the way things are going, we can only guess what could happen with everything moving on fine in the long run. Right now, there is so much uncertainty in the market and most people are really looking forward to see how things end up going.

FUD is still being generated by all these dudes who claim to be some economist which I believe is for their own selfish reasons, with the market pulling through and getting stronger, then we definitely should see that $70k coming.
4847  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN milestone 10000$. Continue to rise or not??? on: December 05, 2017, 06:23:07 AM
Yes, I think bitcoin will increase to $ 15k, if you have bitcoin keep it tight
I am not sure this would happen without a correction. We have seen major bull runs like this before when new hands are entering the market, but I am sure very soon, most traders will want to start taking profit when everything balances out. A bull run to the $15,000 mark without a correction would really be a crazy one right now.

Christmas is already fun at this stage as what we were expecting arrived earlier. But I am too confident now to have $15k for one bitcoins by the time of Christmas or at least before 1st of January 2018.
4848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is your view about lending coin? on: December 04, 2017, 01:28:35 PM
What is your view about lending coin?
Bitconnect, Hextracoin, Regalcoin, Firstcoin and many more.

I just see profit from lending, where is that profit from?
It is your decision and choice anyway, but if you really love yourself, I will advise you to stay away from bitconnect most especially. I really do not know much about the other coins you have mentioned but everything about bitconnect is more or less a Ponzi, and if you have read about Ponzi, you should know by now that they do not last and you may end up being the last part of the chain that the coin would implode on.

It's ponzi scheme Smiley) You'll be received more money every month if you can invite someone sign up and invest money under your refferal link. At the moment there are a lot of lending ICO in this forum Smiley). I will never joining any ICO like that cause I really really hate this kind of business.
And when you tell people that it is a Ponzi, they attack you like you know nothing about what you are saying and then when the whole thing happens, they go inside the corner room and start sobbing like a little kid that has been abandoned. What is the difference between this and a Ponzi. Huge referral bonus, percentage profit on your holding and so on and so forth. It may not be now, but definitely at one point, the implosion will be huge.
4849  Economy / Economics / Re: huge crypto market correction incoming on: December 04, 2017, 10:21:12 AM
Are those really even corrections? I know the first "correction" was the China ban, but what's the second one? Wasn't that the Bitcoin Cash attack? I'm not expecting a massive correction, but then again I'm no expert on the subject.

Either way, if we're basing off past bull runs anyway, we can see that it has come back stronger each time. You also say healthy markets need corrections to keep growing, so one coming should be of no concern. If you're a HODLer with long term plans, you have nothing to worry about at all. If you're a trader, then it may be time to sell and wait for the dip, if it really will even come.
Yeah, the market keeps getting stronger and stronger each and every day and we do not get to see some of the things that we have all been seeing in the crypto market few years back now, most especially in bitcoin and that your point is a good one bro.

Corrections are not getting as huge as they used to except for some of the FUDs created and some attacks just like you said. However, there are so many corrections that have always happened after a bull run in the past and not just the scenarios you have painted, so they are just a normal thing in the market basically too test the strength.
4850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any one who won significant amount of satoshi in gambling..?? on: December 04, 2017, 08:35:33 AM
If your games to played are always base on luck it better for you to quit gambling. Because the best games are not depending on the luck, maybe we always believed in our own strategies.
The reason why I moved into sport betting was when I realized that luck can only take you a matter of time before it abandons you to your own fate. On the other hand, at least with sport betting, I have been enjoying my game, with some news and understanding about the game, I have been able to make some winning bets even though you still have to hope on luck for some, but not entirely luck. Poker or some card games too require some strategies and which to me still sounds reasonable.

For me the better gambling we can played is a card games, because in card games the possibility for you to win is definitely depends on the strategy you can do to defeat your opponent.
Choosing the right type of gambling must be the first strategy every gambler must need to go for. Right type means a gambling which maybe either entertaining or profitable.
4851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling PRO CON on: December 03, 2017, 03:36:49 PM
Winning and loosing are very relative things in gambling and you are never sure of what will happen with your bets , it's pretty risky and you are basically throwing money to the wind in most cases .
The luck needed to get that very infinite probability of making a huge win is absurd , and beside that you'll endure lot of stress and frustration through your gambling journey  .
Trying to recover your money won't help at all , it'll even make you drown in more losses and thus more regrets . Get rid of that destructive habit before it consumes you and just forget about the money you lost , call it a day and move on with your life while you still have one .
Honestly, pro and con of gambling totally depends on each individual and how they really place gambling in their life. The reason why some people have gotten so addictive to gambling today is because they allowed their emotions and the gambling impulse to take over them, which usually starts from trying to recover losses just as you have said.

It is a crazy world that requires being careful and for those who cannot accept that they can lose more than they can win in gambling should not even start cause everything about it will scream CONS!
4852  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will happen with the BTC, if the dollar falls on: December 03, 2017, 01:05:19 PM
If usd falls that is good for cryptocurrency and if yuan will replace it,, the effect of this event to bitcoin is minimal.. Then it will only boost the usage of Yuan worldwide,, so in short it only be a one sided benefits more on Yuan than to cryptocurrency.. I’m not a fan of this fiat currency but I’d rather have this than usd that is overrated for so long even we all know that America is economically down having trillions of debts to China is as telling as it is..

Actually, it is impossible to happened since the economy on the united states is stable and bitcoin's performance is good and breaking its previous records. Well, if we try to assume that it will happened, USD is not the only currency that can affects on bitcoin which there are many currencies throughout the world as a reference currency. Bitcoin doesn't rely on USD currency but all currencies which can be converted to bitcoin. Also, bitcoin has its own value as an independent currency in the cyberworld.
Even if dollar falls, we can count bitcoins with respect to any other national currency like INR, GPU, EURO etc.
I don't think, bitcoin will fall if dollar falls. Dollar goes in the field of stock market. Stock markets will face a huge dump if dollar falls but bitcoins will not get affected as it has nothing to do with dollar except exchanging it to dollars.

Dollars and bitcoins does not have much relation as dollars are completely centralized and are owned by a particular country whereas bitcoins are completely opposite. Bitcoins are completely decentralized and also are not owned by any individual country.
4853  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoins & On-line Retailing on: December 03, 2017, 08:34:04 AM
I think it's very possible as long as there are companies or devlopers that facilitate it so it will be able to walk easily

but there is a problem that often occurs on the sale of goods offline prices tend to remain unchanged while crypto currency we all know the price is very volatile from time to time this will complicate the sellers and buyers because the value of goods that are not stabilized
Certainly, cryptocurrency is volatile, but it must be a risk one is willing to take as a merchant to start something like this. While some are paying and the value increases, the same thing can happen the other way round, but at the end it can still be balanced out.

Yes, bitcoin has had some pretty huge spikes lately, but when I started few months back, I guess I have ended up having more than enough profit I could envisage from the growth in value of bitcoin alone after leaving some of the funds in the wallet a bit after.
4854  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: New Poll On Use of Bitcoins on: December 02, 2017, 05:14:03 PM
Using it as a donation is definitely not a bad idea. Depends where you're donating them though, hopefully to some decent charity or something along the lines of that. But I'm personally not that financially well-off so this isn't a choice for me as of now unfortunately. So I'm currently just going to hold on to my BTC and use them whenever possible when paying for stuff online.
Donation is not bad, but really unless you have more than enough to give out, that is when donation is realistic. Right now, I would rather be willing someone donate to me Grin

For now, it is either I keep holding and working hard to keep increasing what I have. There are so many freelance sites, and so many things I can do with my skills. When I have enough to throw around, then I can start considering some spending option.
4855  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: It’s very easy to trade Bitcoin on: December 02, 2017, 02:18:56 PM
If the Bitcoin easily to earn profit like you're saying then why there are many people lose much in it ?
The reason my friend is that, this is not a win win situation. Somebody's gains are also somebody's losses. So it doesn't mean all of us needed to be a winner and at the same time earning profits, there is no balance if its that so, besides earning profit in bitcoin is not easy as its said, when its done, you will sooner realize that there are lots of things need to be done, study around and research in order to learn and gain from it.
Even the pro traders lose some little amount of money and even much depending on their calls but they do not cry about it knowing that it is a normal thing when it comes to trading. Most times as you are profiting, someone else somewhere is losing. It is a huge market and I guess it is the way it is.

All the above, when you are good, hardly can you lose much and even when you make the wrong call and based on your analysis you already know where a chart is headed, you can hardly not get back in at the right time without losing much.
4856  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Mining ? Tell me About it please on: December 02, 2017, 11:23:57 AM
Cloud Mining ? Tell me About it please

I am wondering what exactly is cloud mining?

IS this more less I can invest into a mining system? but don't have to actually have the hardware in my house? I just handle the controls from a remote location?

more less invest in as a shareholder? or really how does this work? information please
It is funny that the amount of time it took you to create this topic and to write this lengthy post, you could have just used it to visit Google website and just type 'cloud mining scam' and then you will have so many topics that have been created in the past regarding cloud mining and why you should not bother yourself about them.

Buy your coin, put into your wallet and watch it grow. Mining is not for everyone, but if you have enough funds to set up a mining rig, then go ahead but consider electricity as well, otherwise, go and learn how to trade. However, leaving your funds in your wallet and watching it grow if you cannot really do much to earn bitcoin should be enough for you in the long run.
4857  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is is still a good time to Invest in Bitcoin? on: December 02, 2017, 08:56:14 AM
price will not be the same in next few years and it will be much higher then our expectations so even if you invest in it now and wait for the right time then you are likely to get best returns on your investments so try to get as much as you can as in future it will become more difficult to get even a small amount.
Exactly! There is so much going for bitcoin now and I am very sure we are not even close to the peak yet. Bitcoin has shown a good sign of strength that at this moment no one should even be worried when to buy or not. The little correction we have had so far was a very good time to buy and even now is still a very good time to buy.

We are now at the centre point without knowing either the price goes up or goes down, the market seems dull now, watch the market situation and then investing is a clever decision, people were scared and sometimes if panic selling occurs it will dump the price. Price will go up for sure, but as of now if it dips we can buy at even cheaper price to taste best profits.
Right! So far it is an uncertain spot and we just have to keep to looking at the breakout. It could be to any position but for anyone who is holding for long, I really do not think this should be a huge concern. It is still a very good price at the moment and at least I would rather buy small out of what I have and see the trend and if possible quickly buy more later on. We cannot have it all, but with bitcoin, the increase for now is sure.
4858  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's Surpising: Bitcoin Price Touches New Height on: December 02, 2017, 07:52:57 AM
to be honest it's not surprising at all because it's predictable,
if you're here for the past few months you will see a lot of people calling it a while ago.
even Bitcoin reached $11.000 nearing $12.000 level,
what do you mean by bibble ? are you saying about bubble ?
if you're asking about bubble i do not think it can be considered as a bubble,lately we heard a lot about Bitcoin.
from regulated exchanges in some countries,listing futures and many more in upcoming days.
which mean slowly but sure it got an attention from peoples around the world with that the demand increasing and pushing the price to the top.
even though current our move can be said as a manipulation,
but it does not matter because in the future we should see the price hit this level and surpassing it.
Bitcoin has a lot of room to grow and potential.
In fact, the potential is massive and we have not seen anything yet. This is a normal thing and it amuses me when people keep saying bitcoin is a bubble. All this little corrections that we are having says otherwise. The market is new, so many new investors are coming in, and it is getting matured each and every day and that is something I cannot call bubble.

The market may be unstable and there are lots of uncertainties, but that does not mean it does not have great potentials. Bubbles really do not have values and they are just set by people, bitcoin does.
4859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Nasdaq Plans to Launch Bitcoin Futures in First Half 2018 on: December 01, 2017, 03:50:28 PM
This is huge:

Nasdaq Plans to Launch Bitcoin Futures in First Half 2018

https://www.wsj.com/articles/nasdaq-plans-to-launch-bitcoin-futures-in-first-half-2018-1511968313

Now we have another serirous reason to HODL! How much do you think will be the price pump this time?
Obviously, there are great times ahead for bitcoin and with Nasdaq launching CME futures this would really give bitcoin some huge step towards the bull run. However, bitcoin is really becoming more of an investment tool than a currency as it is and trust me, I really do not want to make it sound like I am being pessimistic or something, but we have to face it that bitcoin will end up more of a speculative investment in the long run.

While I have always said CME future was something huge, now I am missing superlatives. Indeed that will be extremely awesome for sure. Definitely great times to be alive !
Great times to be alive and part of the moment indeed. Being a part of this generation is actually very awesome and with the development with blockchain technology and the evolution of currency, it just gets more interesting. Nasdaq launching Bitcoin Futures is really a great step and that would really give bitcoin a huge edge as well as a great increase in value in the long run.
4860  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will happen with the BTC, if the dollar falls on: December 01, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
If the dollar falls I think there will be only one thing can happen with BTC is Bitcoin price will go to the moon Smiley). But I think this case will never happening cause dollar will never being replaced by Yuan Smiley
Bitcoin price will of course soar higher as we will end up seeing investors trying to quickly put their funds where at least find a better value. However, in a case that something like this end up happening, I guess global currency power won't just shift from USD to Yuan just because of that and I really do not know how something like that would even play out.

One thing is that other currencies will just end up stronger, but I do not really think that can cause another currency like Yuan being used as a global currency.
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