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4741  Economy / Speculation / Re: $70,000 anyone? on: December 06, 2017, 04:05:46 AM
This is only a hypothesis , it's maybe happen maybe not but in my opinion it could be happen because the potiental of Bitcoin is so good.  
Definitely, no one can predict the future and with the way things are going, we can only guess what could happen with everything moving on fine in the long run. Right now, there is so much uncertainty in the market and most people are really looking forward to see how things end up going.

FUD is still being generated by all these dudes who claim to be some economist which I believe is for their own selfish reasons, with the market pulling through and getting stronger, then we definitely should see that $70k coming.
4742  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN milestone 10000$. Continue to rise or not??? on: December 05, 2017, 06:23:07 AM
Yes, I think bitcoin will increase to $ 15k, if you have bitcoin keep it tight
I am not sure this would happen without a correction. We have seen major bull runs like this before when new hands are entering the market, but I am sure very soon, most traders will want to start taking profit when everything balances out. A bull run to the $15,000 mark without a correction would really be a crazy one right now.

Christmas is already fun at this stage as what we were expecting arrived earlier. But I am too confident now to have $15k for one bitcoins by the time of Christmas or at least before 1st of January 2018.
4743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is your view about lending coin? on: December 04, 2017, 01:28:35 PM
What is your view about lending coin?
Bitconnect, Hextracoin, Regalcoin, Firstcoin and many more.

I just see profit from lending, where is that profit from?
It is your decision and choice anyway, but if you really love yourself, I will advise you to stay away from bitconnect most especially. I really do not know much about the other coins you have mentioned but everything about bitconnect is more or less a Ponzi, and if you have read about Ponzi, you should know by now that they do not last and you may end up being the last part of the chain that the coin would implode on.

It's ponzi scheme Smiley) You'll be received more money every month if you can invite someone sign up and invest money under your refferal link. At the moment there are a lot of lending ICO in this forum Smiley). I will never joining any ICO like that cause I really really hate this kind of business.
And when you tell people that it is a Ponzi, they attack you like you know nothing about what you are saying and then when the whole thing happens, they go inside the corner room and start sobbing like a little kid that has been abandoned. What is the difference between this and a Ponzi. Huge referral bonus, percentage profit on your holding and so on and so forth. It may not be now, but definitely at one point, the implosion will be huge.
4744  Economy / Economics / Re: huge crypto market correction incoming on: December 04, 2017, 10:21:12 AM
Are those really even corrections? I know the first "correction" was the China ban, but what's the second one? Wasn't that the Bitcoin Cash attack? I'm not expecting a massive correction, but then again I'm no expert on the subject.

Either way, if we're basing off past bull runs anyway, we can see that it has come back stronger each time. You also say healthy markets need corrections to keep growing, so one coming should be of no concern. If you're a HODLer with long term plans, you have nothing to worry about at all. If you're a trader, then it may be time to sell and wait for the dip, if it really will even come.
Yeah, the market keeps getting stronger and stronger each and every day and we do not get to see some of the things that we have all been seeing in the crypto market few years back now, most especially in bitcoin and that your point is a good one bro.

Corrections are not getting as huge as they used to except for some of the FUDs created and some attacks just like you said. However, there are so many corrections that have always happened after a bull run in the past and not just the scenarios you have painted, so they are just a normal thing in the market basically too test the strength.
4745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any one who won significant amount of satoshi in gambling..?? on: December 04, 2017, 08:35:33 AM
If your games to played are always base on luck it better for you to quit gambling. Because the best games are not depending on the luck, maybe we always believed in our own strategies.
The reason why I moved into sport betting was when I realized that luck can only take you a matter of time before it abandons you to your own fate. On the other hand, at least with sport betting, I have been enjoying my game, with some news and understanding about the game, I have been able to make some winning bets even though you still have to hope on luck for some, but not entirely luck. Poker or some card games too require some strategies and which to me still sounds reasonable.

For me the better gambling we can played is a card games, because in card games the possibility for you to win is definitely depends on the strategy you can do to defeat your opponent.
Choosing the right type of gambling must be the first strategy every gambler must need to go for. Right type means a gambling which maybe either entertaining or profitable.
4746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling PRO CON on: December 03, 2017, 03:36:49 PM
Winning and loosing are very relative things in gambling and you are never sure of what will happen with your bets , it's pretty risky and you are basically throwing money to the wind in most cases .
The luck needed to get that very infinite probability of making a huge win is absurd , and beside that you'll endure lot of stress and frustration through your gambling journey  .
Trying to recover your money won't help at all , it'll even make you drown in more losses and thus more regrets . Get rid of that destructive habit before it consumes you and just forget about the money you lost , call it a day and move on with your life while you still have one .
Honestly, pro and con of gambling totally depends on each individual and how they really place gambling in their life. The reason why some people have gotten so addictive to gambling today is because they allowed their emotions and the gambling impulse to take over them, which usually starts from trying to recover losses just as you have said.

It is a crazy world that requires being careful and for those who cannot accept that they can lose more than they can win in gambling should not even start cause everything about it will scream CONS!
4747  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will happen with the BTC, if the dollar falls on: December 03, 2017, 01:05:19 PM
If usd falls that is good for cryptocurrency and if yuan will replace it,, the effect of this event to bitcoin is minimal.. Then it will only boost the usage of Yuan worldwide,, so in short it only be a one sided benefits more on Yuan than to cryptocurrency.. I’m not a fan of this fiat currency but I’d rather have this than usd that is overrated for so long even we all know that America is economically down having trillions of debts to China is as telling as it is..

Actually, it is impossible to happened since the economy on the united states is stable and bitcoin's performance is good and breaking its previous records. Well, if we try to assume that it will happened, USD is not the only currency that can affects on bitcoin which there are many currencies throughout the world as a reference currency. Bitcoin doesn't rely on USD currency but all currencies which can be converted to bitcoin. Also, bitcoin has its own value as an independent currency in the cyberworld.
Even if dollar falls, we can count bitcoins with respect to any other national currency like INR, GPU, EURO etc.
I don't think, bitcoin will fall if dollar falls. Dollar goes in the field of stock market. Stock markets will face a huge dump if dollar falls but bitcoins will not get affected as it has nothing to do with dollar except exchanging it to dollars.

Dollars and bitcoins does not have much relation as dollars are completely centralized and are owned by a particular country whereas bitcoins are completely opposite. Bitcoins are completely decentralized and also are not owned by any individual country.
4748  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoins & On-line Retailing on: December 03, 2017, 08:34:04 AM
I think it's very possible as long as there are companies or devlopers that facilitate it so it will be able to walk easily

but there is a problem that often occurs on the sale of goods offline prices tend to remain unchanged while crypto currency we all know the price is very volatile from time to time this will complicate the sellers and buyers because the value of goods that are not stabilized
Certainly, cryptocurrency is volatile, but it must be a risk one is willing to take as a merchant to start something like this. While some are paying and the value increases, the same thing can happen the other way round, but at the end it can still be balanced out.

Yes, bitcoin has had some pretty huge spikes lately, but when I started few months back, I guess I have ended up having more than enough profit I could envisage from the growth in value of bitcoin alone after leaving some of the funds in the wallet a bit after.
4749  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: New Poll On Use of Bitcoins on: December 02, 2017, 05:14:03 PM
Using it as a donation is definitely not a bad idea. Depends where you're donating them though, hopefully to some decent charity or something along the lines of that. But I'm personally not that financially well-off so this isn't a choice for me as of now unfortunately. So I'm currently just going to hold on to my BTC and use them whenever possible when paying for stuff online.
Donation is not bad, but really unless you have more than enough to give out, that is when donation is realistic. Right now, I would rather be willing someone donate to me Grin

For now, it is either I keep holding and working hard to keep increasing what I have. There are so many freelance sites, and so many things I can do with my skills. When I have enough to throw around, then I can start considering some spending option.
4750  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: It’s very easy to trade Bitcoin on: December 02, 2017, 02:18:56 PM
If the Bitcoin easily to earn profit like you're saying then why there are many people lose much in it ?
The reason my friend is that, this is not a win win situation. Somebody's gains are also somebody's losses. So it doesn't mean all of us needed to be a winner and at the same time earning profits, there is no balance if its that so, besides earning profit in bitcoin is not easy as its said, when its done, you will sooner realize that there are lots of things need to be done, study around and research in order to learn and gain from it.
Even the pro traders lose some little amount of money and even much depending on their calls but they do not cry about it knowing that it is a normal thing when it comes to trading. Most times as you are profiting, someone else somewhere is losing. It is a huge market and I guess it is the way it is.

All the above, when you are good, hardly can you lose much and even when you make the wrong call and based on your analysis you already know where a chart is headed, you can hardly not get back in at the right time without losing much.
4751  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Mining ? Tell me About it please on: December 02, 2017, 11:23:57 AM
Cloud Mining ? Tell me About it please

I am wondering what exactly is cloud mining?

IS this more less I can invest into a mining system? but don't have to actually have the hardware in my house? I just handle the controls from a remote location?

more less invest in as a shareholder? or really how does this work? information please
It is funny that the amount of time it took you to create this topic and to write this lengthy post, you could have just used it to visit Google website and just type 'cloud mining scam' and then you will have so many topics that have been created in the past regarding cloud mining and why you should not bother yourself about them.

Buy your coin, put into your wallet and watch it grow. Mining is not for everyone, but if you have enough funds to set up a mining rig, then go ahead but consider electricity as well, otherwise, go and learn how to trade. However, leaving your funds in your wallet and watching it grow if you cannot really do much to earn bitcoin should be enough for you in the long run.
4752  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is is still a good time to Invest in Bitcoin? on: December 02, 2017, 08:56:14 AM
price will not be the same in next few years and it will be much higher then our expectations so even if you invest in it now and wait for the right time then you are likely to get best returns on your investments so try to get as much as you can as in future it will become more difficult to get even a small amount.
Exactly! There is so much going for bitcoin now and I am very sure we are not even close to the peak yet. Bitcoin has shown a good sign of strength that at this moment no one should even be worried when to buy or not. The little correction we have had so far was a very good time to buy and even now is still a very good time to buy.

We are now at the centre point without knowing either the price goes up or goes down, the market seems dull now, watch the market situation and then investing is a clever decision, people were scared and sometimes if panic selling occurs it will dump the price. Price will go up for sure, but as of now if it dips we can buy at even cheaper price to taste best profits.
Right! So far it is an uncertain spot and we just have to keep to looking at the breakout. It could be to any position but for anyone who is holding for long, I really do not think this should be a huge concern. It is still a very good price at the moment and at least I would rather buy small out of what I have and see the trend and if possible quickly buy more later on. We cannot have it all, but with bitcoin, the increase for now is sure.
4753  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's Surpising: Bitcoin Price Touches New Height on: December 02, 2017, 07:52:57 AM
to be honest it's not surprising at all because it's predictable,
if you're here for the past few months you will see a lot of people calling it a while ago.
even Bitcoin reached $11.000 nearing $12.000 level,
what do you mean by bibble ? are you saying about bubble ?
if you're asking about bubble i do not think it can be considered as a bubble,lately we heard a lot about Bitcoin.
from regulated exchanges in some countries,listing futures and many more in upcoming days.
which mean slowly but sure it got an attention from peoples around the world with that the demand increasing and pushing the price to the top.
even though current our move can be said as a manipulation,
but it does not matter because in the future we should see the price hit this level and surpassing it.
Bitcoin has a lot of room to grow and potential.
In fact, the potential is massive and we have not seen anything yet. This is a normal thing and it amuses me when people keep saying bitcoin is a bubble. All this little corrections that we are having says otherwise. The market is new, so many new investors are coming in, and it is getting matured each and every day and that is something I cannot call bubble.

The market may be unstable and there are lots of uncertainties, but that does not mean it does not have great potentials. Bubbles really do not have values and they are just set by people, bitcoin does.
4754  Economy / Speculation / Re: Nasdaq Plans to Launch Bitcoin Futures in First Half 2018 on: December 01, 2017, 03:50:28 PM
This is huge:

Nasdaq Plans to Launch Bitcoin Futures in First Half 2018

https://www.wsj.com/articles/nasdaq-plans-to-launch-bitcoin-futures-in-first-half-2018-1511968313

Now we have another serirous reason to HODL! How much do you think will be the price pump this time?
Obviously, there are great times ahead for bitcoin and with Nasdaq launching CME futures this would really give bitcoin some huge step towards the bull run. However, bitcoin is really becoming more of an investment tool than a currency as it is and trust me, I really do not want to make it sound like I am being pessimistic or something, but we have to face it that bitcoin will end up more of a speculative investment in the long run.

While I have always said CME future was something huge, now I am missing superlatives. Indeed that will be extremely awesome for sure. Definitely great times to be alive !
Great times to be alive and part of the moment indeed. Being a part of this generation is actually very awesome and with the development with blockchain technology and the evolution of currency, it just gets more interesting. Nasdaq launching Bitcoin Futures is really a great step and that would really give bitcoin a huge edge as well as a great increase in value in the long run.
4755  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will happen with the BTC, if the dollar falls on: December 01, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
If the dollar falls I think there will be only one thing can happen with BTC is Bitcoin price will go to the moon Smiley). But I think this case will never happening cause dollar will never being replaced by Yuan Smiley
Bitcoin price will of course soar higher as we will end up seeing investors trying to quickly put their funds where at least find a better value. However, in a case that something like this end up happening, I guess global currency power won't just shift from USD to Yuan just because of that and I really do not know how something like that would even play out.

One thing is that other currencies will just end up stronger, but I do not really think that can cause another currency like Yuan being used as a global currency.
4756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a real asset, but it's in a bubble state. on: December 01, 2017, 09:20:14 AM
At the CNBC global CFO conference, 97 CFO were asked about their views on bitcoin. 27.9% of them think the encrypted currency is trueBut in a bubble state~ Smiley
27.9%? And you concluded with that statistics that bitcoin is in a bubble state when you of course know that compared to the other 72.1% that chose otherwise, and if we are to judge with that, then your topic is totally wrong. Bitcoin is an asset, it is valuable, and it is highly going to be useful more than we already have it.

It would end up being a bubble if none of these are in place and then a time would come that it would burst. In fact, it would have busted a very long time ago. Normally, we cannot dispute the fact that FOMOs would keep rushing in every now and then, but if you look at the charts and you understand what bitcoin is, you will have to start thinking otherwise.
4757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Lightning Bitcoin *NEW FORK DECEMBER* LMAO on: December 01, 2017, 08:08:13 AM
Honestly, when this whole fork started, I knew it would end up being a joke at the end and then we will see some dumb ass devs and scammers trying to use the fork medium to enrich their pockets. If you want to have a coin that would be as fast as lightening, why not just go try to create a new one and start afresh.

This is just becoming appalling and honestly, users need to start discarding these forks and if not for some stupid exchanges like Yobit that would end up listing them, they should not even be allowed. People should learn to let the devs keep bag holding their shitcoins for themselves.
4758  Economy / Economics / Re: Will it be profitable to purchase BTC or ETH for fiat right now on: December 01, 2017, 06:58:18 AM
Yes it will be , much now that it rapidly growing day by day. It's possible for bitcoin to reach $12000 to $15000 before 2017 ends. If i were you , i would also invest to it and make profit as 2018 will enter. 2018 would be a great start for ETH to so im thinking if i will invest to it , currently its about $500 and keeps rising.
In fact, the rapidness has been crazy and no one knows how long this craziness is going to keep up. There is no possibility that can be discarded right now, cause who would have thought that bitcoin would get to this point even before the end of November, when we were all expecting $10,000 by December ending.

Like you said, next year would really be a bullish year for ETH as well and some few other cryptos and also banking on waves too as well. So I would rather diversify my folio.
4759  Economy / Economics / Re: do you think bitcoin is controversial ? on: December 01, 2017, 05:56:46 AM
Yes it is. Now a days bitcoin is the most high valued cryptocurrency. And it is continuously increasing high. So there's no way to say that bitcoin is not controversial.
Well, if we are saying the value is increasing each and every day is causing some sort of controversial, then it should be expected. However, all these controversy started when the government realized there is something taking some chunk of country from them which cannot be stopped as it has grown hugely like a virus already.

Bitcoin being decentralized alone is causing controversy and as long as the government cannot really state that out so as not to sound like fools, they would rather keep calling it any name they want.
4760  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Taxes Mining Bitcoins on: December 01, 2017, 04:07:23 AM
Somebody can help me about the taxes mining Bitcoins in Canada and USA. Taxes to import the hardware, income tax,  etc.


i suggest researching if have a government regulation about mining in the said country because here in my country mining have nope taxes but the electricity power fees is very expensive, payment with expensive electricty i think is enough to pay taxes including in the electricity bill.
It totally balls down on the location just as you have said. I have been mining for a while and apart from the tax I had to pay alongside the hardware, the electricity bill I pay, there has been no form of tax. The only way I guess I may have to end up paying tax is if my government decides to start taxing when converting to fiat while making use of the exchanges.

As a Canadian living in Ontario, I have been mining bitcoins and altcoins for quite a while and don't pay imposes on the bitcoin that I mined. In any case, that is for the most part since I don't offer.

In any case, from what I heard, on the off chance that you are a business and acknowledge bitcoin, you need to report it. In the event that you mined bitcoin and sold it, it considers capital pick up.
Well, those are capital gains and unless you report it, mostly by converting into fiat with the use of an exchange, then this is where tax comes in. Even without mining in some places and you just buy BTC, it is known that you will end up having some gains on it which means it is subject to tax. So, if you decide to mine, pay your electricity bills and leave your funds in your wallet, then tax obviously does not apply.
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